Farhan, Really looking forward to building the uBITX and am in the process of gathering together all of the components.? Also going to go SMD as you did. ?I have a
few questions from studying your written description and the picture. ? 1.? ? ? ??1. ?The picture appears to show four relays and I
only count three in the schematic. 2.??????
?2. ?The picture appears to show seven crystals in
the 12 MHz filter and the schematic shows eight. 3.??????
?3. ?I can¡¯t figure out the function of the P2
connection that comes off of the K3 relay, pin 12 ? I know I am probably missing obvious answers but just can¡¯t
figure it out. ? Planning to use the K7QO ¡°Muppet¡± pcb technique for
construction, breaking the design into small modules (about 16 in all), and
place them on a 6¡± x 6¡± so pcb as you did.?
Going to go at it slow and test out each module as much as my knowledge
and test equipment will allow.? I have
the PHSNA (Poor Ham¡¯s SNA) to check out the filters and will work on a way to
test the amps. ? Thank you so much for your design ! ? 73,
Dale? K9NN
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Dale, I optimised the design further. Reducing the relays to just three. I added another cyrstal too as it really makes a difference. There should be a 4.7k resistor in series with the AGC diode too. I will update this in a few days. It has been hectic around here. - f
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On 19 Mar 2017 1:30 a.m., "dvhammer_99" < DaleHammer@...> wrote: Farhan, Really looking forward to building the uBITX and am in the process of gathering together all of the components.? Also going to go SMD as you did.? I have a
few questions from studying your written description and the picture. ? 1.? ? ? ??1. ?The picture appears to show four relays and I
only count three in the schematic. 2.??????
?2. ?The picture appears to show seven crystals in
the 12 MHz filter and the schematic shows eight. 3.??????
?3. ?I can¡¯t figure out the function of the P2
connection that comes off of the K3 relay, pin 12 ? I know I am probably missing obvious answers but just can¡¯t
figure it out. ? Planning to use the K7QO ¡°Muppet¡± pcb technique for
construction, breaking the design into small modules (about 16 in all), and
place them on a 6¡± x 6¡± so pcb as you did.?
Going to go at it slow and test out each module as much as my knowledge
and test equipment will allow.? I have
the PHSNA (Poor Ham¡¯s SNA) to check out the filters and will work on a way to
test the amps. ? Thank you so much for your design ! ? 73,
Dale? K9NN
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Hi Farhan,
I'm really glad to see you are working on the next version of the BITX project (good job! :-), but please let me ask how the BITX40 works (Dale - sorry for of topic here). Could you please tell me how the bi-lateral AMPs work? Why you think bidirectional RF AMPs has input/output impedance translation 50->220 and 220->50 ohms? (if I understand well for 10 ohms in emitter and 1,1k (double 2,2k in parallel) in feedback) I've read your project description in the original BITX project, but I'm not convinced about that. I've just put this AMP in the simulator (Multisim 11.0) and there is no such impedance translation...
Regards, Rafal SP3GO
W dniu 2017-03-19 o 04:00, Ashhar Farhan pisze:
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Dale, I optimised the design further. Reducing the relays to just three. I added another cyrstal too as it really makes a difference. There should be a 4.7k resistor in series with the AGC diode too. I will update this in a few days. It has been hectic around here. - f
On 19 Mar 2017 1:30 a.m., "dvhammer_99" <DaleHammer@... <mailto:DaleHammer@...>> wrote:
Farhan,____
Really looking forward to building the uBITX and am in the process of gathering together all of the components. Also going to go SMD as you did. I have a few questions from studying your written description and the picture.____
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1. ?1. The picture appears to show four relays and I only count three in the schematic.____
2. ?2. The picture appears to show seven crystals in the 12 MHz filter and the schematic shows eight. ____
3. ?3. I can¡¯t figure out the function of the P2 connection that comes off of the K3 relay, pin 12____
__ __
I know I am probably missing obvious answers but just can¡¯t figure it out.____
__ __
Planning to use the K7QO ¡°Muppet¡± pcb technique for construction, breaking the design into small modules (about 16 in all), and place them on a 6¡± x 6¡± so pcb as you did. Going to go at it slow and test out each module as much as my knowledge and test equipment will allow. I have the PHSNA (Poor Ham¡¯s SNA) to check out the filters and will work on a way to test the amps.____
__ __
Thank you so much for your design !____
__ __
73,____
Dale K9NN____
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Greetings,
I need to make a parts order for another project I am doing, so I looked at the uBITX schematics to find some extra parts to pad my parts order. I have put the parts list I made up on a temporary web page that will expire on March 30, 2017. I will take the web page down at that time. However, I thought that perhaps others might be interested in the parts list I made, so I am making it available. I know it will be obsolete when Ust¨¡d Farhan-ji finishes updating everything.
uBITX Parts List - Expires 30 March 2017
73 DE KM4NFQ
P.S. If you are reading this post after 30 March 2017, the above link will not work.
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On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Rafa? Lichwa?a <rafal@...> wrote: Hi Farhan,
I'm really glad to see you are working on the next version of the BITX project (good job! :-), but please let me ask how the BITX40 works (Dale - sorry for of topic here). Could you please tell me how the bi-lateral AMPs work? Why you think bidirectional RF AMPs has input/output impedance translation 50->220 and 220->50 ohms? (if I understand well for 10 ohms in emitter and 1,1k (double 2,2k in parallel) in feedback) I've read your project description in the original BITX project, but I'm not convinced about that. I've just put this AMP in the simulator (Multisim 11.0) and there is no such impedance translation...
Regards, Rafal SP3GO
W dniu 2017-03-19 o 04:00, Ashhar Farhan pisze:
Dale, I optimised the design further. Reducing the relays to just three. I added another cyrstal too as it really makes a difference. There should be a 4.7k resistor in series with the AGC diode too. I will update this in a few days. It has been hectic around here. - f
On 19 Mar 2017 1:30 a.m., "dvhammer_99" <DaleHammer@... <mailto:DaleHammer@...>> wrote:
Farhan,____
Really looking forward to building the uBITX and am in the process of gathering together all of the components. Also going to go SMD as you did. I have a few questions from studying your written description and the picture.____
__ __
1. ?1. The picture appears to show four relays and I only count three in the schematic.____
2. ?2. The picture appears to show seven crystals in the 12 MHz filter and the schematic shows eight. ____
3. ?3. I can¡¯t figure out the function of the P2 connection that comes off of the K3 relay, pin 12____
__ __
I know I am probably missing obvious answers but just can¡¯t figure it out.____
__ __
Planning to use the K7QO ¡°Muppet¡± pcb technique for construction, breaking the design into small modules (about 16 in all), and place them on a 6¡± x 6¡± so pcb as you did. Going to go at it slow and test out each module as much as my knowledge and test equipment will allow. I have the PHSNA (Poor Ham¡¯s SNA) to check out the filters and will work on a way to test the amps.____
__ __
Thank you so much for your design !____
__ __
73,____
Dale K9NN____
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Ken,
Thank you for your work in making the uBitx circuits and parts list. If you made any mistakes I will find then eventually and as you say the list may change as the design matures over time.
Again thanks for your efforts.
Best regards,
Peter VK1XP
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On 20-03-2017 11:09, Ken KM4NFQ wrote: Greetings, I need to make a parts order for another project I am doing, so I looked at the uBITX schematics to find some extra parts to pad my parts order. I have put the parts list I made up on a temporary web page that will expire on March 30, 2017. I will take the web page down at that time. However, I thought that perhaps others might be interested in the parts list I made, so I am making it available. I know it will be obsolete when Ust¨¡d Farhan-ji finishes updating everything. uBITX Parts List - Expires 30 March 2017
73 DE KM4NFQ P.S. If you are reading this post after 30 March 2017, the above link will not work. On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Rafa? Lichwa?a <rafal@...> wrote:
Hi Farhan, I'm really glad to see you are working on the next version of the BITX project (good job! :-), but please let me ask how the BITX40 works (Dale - sorry for of topic here). Could you please tell me how the bi-lateral AMPs work? Why you think bidirectional RF AMPs has input/output impedance translation 50->220 and 220->50 ohms? (if I understand well for 10 ohms in emitter and 1,1k (double 2,2k in parallel) in feedback) I've read your project description in the original BITX project, but I'm not convinced about that. I've just put this AMP in the simulator (Multisim 11.0) and there is no such impedance translation... Regards, Rafal SP3GO W dniu 2017-03-19 o 04:00, Ashhar Farhan pisze:
Dale, I optimised the design further. Reducing the relays to just three. I added another cyrstal too as it really makes a difference. There should be a 4.7k resistor in series with the AGC diode too. I will update this in a few days. It has been hectic around here. - f On 19 Mar 2017 1:30 a.m., "dvhammer_99" <DaleHammer@... <mailto:DaleHammer@...>> wrote: Farhan,____ Really looking forward to building the uBITX and am in the process of gathering together all of the components. Also going to go SMD as you did. I have a few questions from studying your written description and the picture.____ __ __ 1. ?1. The picture appears to show four relays and I only count three in the schematic.____ 2. ?2. The picture appears to show seven crystals in the 12 MHz filter and the schematic shows eight. ____ 3. ?3. I can¡¯t figure out the function of the P2 connection that comes off of the K3 relay, pin 12____ __ __ I know I am probably missing obvious answers but just can¡¯t figure it out.____ __ __ Planning to use the K7QO ¡°Muppet¡± pcb technique for construction, breaking the design into small modules (about 16 in all), and place them on a 6¡± x 6¡± so pcb as you did. Going to go at it slow and test out each module as much as my knowledge and test equipment will allow. I have the PHSNA (Poor Ham¡¯s SNA) to check out the filters and will work on a way to test the amps.____ __ __ Thank you so much for your design !____ __ __ 73,____ Dale K9NN____
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Hi,
Thanks a lot for nice and useful job. So we understand BITX better¡..
73 de Franz DF5GF
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Frahan I suggest that when you do the pcb design for the ¦ÌBITX make pads for the PA so that people can either use the IRF510 or whatever you are going to finally use and an RD16HHF1 or RD16HVF1. This would allow people to use the much sturdier RD if they want to and use only 12v for the supply and more so if they are going to use it up to 30MHz or even higher, perhaps on 50MHz and 70MHz with the RD higher efficiency. The RD16HHF1 works well in the Ukranian transverter at 70MHz. So perhaps you will remember these points and why not, 144MHz perhaps? Regards Lawrence
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Easy enough to twist the gate and drain leads on the RD16HHF1 such that they fit into a board drilled out for the IRF510. ?Maybe put a bit of heat shrink on them to ensure they don't touch where they cross over. ?Allison reports the IRF510 works as well as the RD16* parts at HF through 50mhz, ?primary reasons to move to the RD16HHF1 is heat: ?avoids need for mica insulators at the heatsink, and gives better heat transfer from die to package tab. ?Otherwise the IRF510 is an excellent choice for a minimum cost rig. ?Good luck with hacking the uBitx PA to work smoothly from 160 through 2 meters, I'm fine with a good solid simple easy cheap 80/40/20 SSB/CW rig. Jerry, KE7ER
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On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:24 am, Lawrence Galea wrote:
I suggest that when you do the pcb design for the ¦ÌBITX make pads for the PA so that people can either use the IRF510 or whatever you are going to finally use and an RD16HHF1 or RD16HVF1. This would allow people to use the much sturdier RD if they want to and use only 12v for the supply and more so if they are going to use it up to 30MHz or even higher, perhaps on 50MHz and 70MHz with the RD higher efficiency. The RD16HHF1 works well in the Ukranian transverter at 70MHz. So perhaps you will remember these points and why not, 144MHz perhaps?
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Irf530 would be better HF power and cheaper than the rd16 but a rf16vhf would b nice
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On 21 Mar 2017 4:27 AM, "Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io" <jgaffke= [email protected]> wrote: Easy enough to twist the gate and drain leads on the RD16HHF1 such that they fit into a board drilled out for the IRF510.? Maybe put a bit of heat shrink on them to ensure they don't touch where they cross over.? Allison reports the IRF510 works as well as the RD16* parts at HF through 50mhz, ?primary reasons to move to the RD16HHF1 is heat: ?avoids need for mica insulators at the heatsink, and gives better heat transfer from die to package tab.? Otherwise the IRF510 is an excellent choice for a minimum cost rig.? Good luck with hacking the uBitx PA to work smoothly from 160 through 2 meters, I'm fine with a good solid simple easy cheap 80/40/20 SSB/CW rig. Jerry, KE7ER On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:24 am, Lawrence Galea wrote:
I suggest that when you do the pcb design for the ¦ÌBITX make pads for the PA so that people can either use the IRF510 or whatever you are going to finally use and an RD16HHF1 or RD16HVF1. This would allow people to use the much sturdier RD if they want to and use only 12v for the supply and more so if they are going to use it up to 30MHz or even higher, perhaps on 50MHz and 70MHz with the RD higher efficiency. The RD16HHF1 works well in the Ukranian transverter at 70MHz. So perhaps you will remember these points and why not, 144MHz perhaps?
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members trying for RD16 on ebay are mostly landing at fakes. I had a lot of 10 (supposedly re printed stuff using IRF5** series.
? After a long search i could find only one seller who sold genuine stuff on ebay. But he charges more. ?On the item description you clearly find that item is generic, or unbranded , or NEW.
?they are all fake
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Trent Trent <vk7hrs@...> wrote: Irf530 would be better HF power and cheaper than the rd16 but a rf16vhf would b nice
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Here's a link to an article on how to avoid fake RD16HHF1's...
Rich KC8MWG
On Monday, March 20, 2017 11:29 PM, Mvs Sarma <mvssarma@...> wrote:
members trying for RD16 on ebay are mostly landing at fakes. I had a lot of 10 (supposedly re printed stuff using IRF5** series.
? After a long search i could find only one seller who sold genuine stuff on ebay. But he charges more. ?On the item description you clearly find that item is generic, or unbranded , or NEW.
?they are all fake
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 5:00 AM, Trent Trent <vk7hrs@...> wrote: Irf530 would be better HF power and cheaper than the rd16 but a rf16vhf would b nice
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On Mar 21, 2017 2:10 PM, "Richard Andrew Knack via Groups.Io" <ihc73scout2= [email protected]> wrote: Here's a link to an article on how to avoid fake RD16HHF1's...
Rich KC8MWG
On Monday, March 20, 2017 11:29 PM, Mvs Sarma <mvssarma@...> wrote:
members trying for RD16 on ebay are mostly landing at fakes. I had a lot of 10 (supposedly re printed stuff using IRF5** series.
? After a long search i could find only one seller who sold genuine stuff on ebay. But he charges more. ?On the item description you clearly find that item is generic, or unbranded , or NEW.
?they are all fake
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sandeep jee
?you are telling of a standard intended application. ?If so, IRF510 is not for what? we are currently using ? I saw some people? using RD15HVF for HF even. ?i shall recollect andf give the related link. ?Hopw you are all fine ?
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On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Sandeep Lohia <sandeeplohia12@...> wrote: For VHF we use RD15...
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I am planning on building a uBITX and as I was going through the schematic I noticed that C241 & C245 are labeled 0. is there a proper value for them?
Art KB8HGW
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Zero is probably a good value for now: ? ?? /g/BITX20/message/24738You don't want to just copy that uBitx schematic and expect it to work properly. Still under development. Jerry
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 07:46 am, tArthur Bryant wrote:
I am planning on building a uBITX and as I was going through the schematic I noticed that C241 & C245 are labeled 0. is there a proper value for them?
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Those output low-pass transmit filters are 50 ohms and symetrical. You could just borrow a filter design from some other rig that's suitable for 50 Watts of power. Should be one filter per ham band as is typical. (You can cheat on 60m, 30m, 17m, 12m)
There may be other issues with uBitx documentation. For example, perhaps some of those resistors in the PA need to be moderately beefy. You will need tools to sweep that crystal filter and adjust impedances and cap values to suit your carefully matched crystals. ?The bandpass filter at L1,2,3,4 will also need to be carefully tuned. There is no software yet available for a Raduino to drive it.
But if none of that sounds daunting, go for it.
Jerry, KE7ER
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 08:07 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
You don't want to just copy that uBitx schematic and expect it to work properly. Still under development.
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which circuit are you looking at?
- f
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 9:25 PM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote: Those output low-pass transmit filters are 50 ohms and symetrical. You could just borrow a filter design from some other rig that's suitable for 50 Watts of power. Should be one filter per ham band as is typical. (You can cheat on 60m, 30m, 17m, 12m)
There may be other issues with uBitx documentation. For example, perhaps some of those resistors in the PA need to be moderately beefy. You will need tools to sweep that crystal filter and adjust impedances and cap values to suit your carefully matched crystals.? The bandpass filter at L1,2,3,4 will also need to be carefully tuned. There is no software yet available for a Raduino to drive it.
But if none of that sounds daunting, go for it.
Jerry, KE7ER
? On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 08:07 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
You don't want to just copy that uBitx schematic and expect it to work properly. Still under development.
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I'm looking at the uBitx schematic at the bottom of this webpage. If there's something more recent, I haven't heard about it. Jerry
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On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 11:39 am, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
which circuit are you looking at?
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Sorry, Jerry, but I'm just lurking here on Groups.io. "This webpage"? Link please?
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