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Waterfall width


 

Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
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Mike
WA0YCN


Jack, W8TEE
 

Hi Mike:

I'm not sure what the rig uses for its ADC/DAC, but those play a limiting role in the meaningful range of the spectrum and waterfall displays. I'm no EE guy, but the hardware puts severe limits on what software can do to present information on the display.

Jack, W8TEE

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 09:22:31 PM EDT, Mike WA0YCN <mgassman@...> wrote:


Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
--
Mike
WA0YCN

--
Jack, W8TEE


 

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You can¡¯t, because the crystal filter at 45 MHz and sampling rate using the inexpensive A/D will not allow a wider waterfall

Gordon Kx4z?


On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:14, Jack, W8TEE via groups.io <jjpurdum@...> wrote:

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Hi Mike:

I'm not sure what the rig uses for its ADC/DAC, but those play a limiting role in the meaningful range of the spectrum and waterfall displays. I'm no EE guy, but the hardware puts severe limits on what software can do to present information on the display.

Jack, W8TEE

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 09:22:31 PM EDT, Mike WA0YCN <mgassman@...> wrote:


Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
--
Mike
WA0YCN

--
Jack, W8TEE


 

There is a 40 MHz crystal filter with 25 KHz bandpass that puts a physical limit on the span.
- f

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 8:11 AM Gordon Gibby KX4Z <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:
You can¡¯t, because the crystal filter at 45 MHz and sampling rate using the inexpensive A/D will not allow a wider waterfall

Gordon Kx4z?


On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:14, Jack, W8TEE via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi Mike:

I'm not sure what the rig uses for its ADC/DAC, but those play a limiting role in the meaningful range of the spectrum and waterfall displays. I'm no EE guy, but the hardware puts severe limits on what software can do to present information on the display.

Jack, W8TEE

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 09:22:31 PM EDT, Mike WA0YCN <mgassman@...> wrote:


Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
--
Mike
WA0YCN

--
Jack, W8TEE


 

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Farhan,

How about is we use this one ?


Raj

On 31/03/2024 9:18 AM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

There is a 40 MHz crystal filter with 25 KHz bandpass that puts a physical limit on the span.
- f

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 8:11 AM Gordon Gibby KX4Z <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:
You can¡¯t, because the crystal filter at 45 MHz and sampling rate using the inexpensive A/D will not allow a wider waterfall

Gordon Kx4z?


On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:14, Jack, W8TEE via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:

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Hi Mike:

I'm not sure what the rig uses for its ADC/DAC, but those play a limiting role in the meaningful range of the spectrum and waterfall displays. I'm no EE guy, but the hardware puts severe limits on what software can do to present information on the display.

Jack, W8TEE

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 09:22:31 PM EDT, Mike WA0YCN <mgassman@...> wrote:


Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
--
Mike
WA0YCN

--
Jack, W8TEE


 

Raj,
The rejection is o?ly 40dB. You need at least 70 db opposite sideband rejection. When you design larger bandwidth, the out of passband rejection decreases

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 10:16 AM Raj vu2zap <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote:

Farhan,

How about is we use this one ?


Raj

On 31/03/2024 9:18 AM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
There is a 40 MHz crystal filter with 25 KHz bandpass that puts a physical limit on the span.
- f

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 8:11 AM Gordon Gibby KX4Z <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:
You can¡¯t, because the crystal filter at 45 MHz and sampling rate using the inexpensive A/D will not allow a wider waterfall

Gordon Kx4z?


On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:14, Jack, W8TEE via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi Mike:

I'm not sure what the rig uses for its ADC/DAC, but those play a limiting role in the meaningful range of the spectrum and waterfall displays. I'm no EE guy, but the hardware puts severe limits on what software can do to present information on the display.

Jack, W8TEE

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 09:22:31 PM EDT, Mike WA0YCN <mgassman@...> wrote:


Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
--
Mike
WA0YCN

--
Jack, W8TEE


 

Ashhar, thanks for the gentle correction on the IF frequency.
Gordon KX4Z


On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 1:30?AM Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
Raj,
The rejection is o?ly 40dB. You need at least 70 db opposite sideband rejection. When you design larger bandwidth, the out of passband rejection decreases

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 10:16 AM Raj vu2zap <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote:

Farhan,

How about is we use this one ?


Raj

On 31/03/2024 9:18 AM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
There is a 40 MHz crystal filter with 25 KHz bandpass that puts a physical limit on the span.
- f

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024, 8:11 AM Gordon Gibby KX4Z <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:
You can¡¯t, because the crystal filter at 45 MHz and sampling rate using the inexpensive A/D will not allow a wider waterfall

Gordon Kx4z?


On Mar 30, 2024, at 22:14, Jack, W8TEE via <jjpurdum=[email protected]> wrote:

?
Hi Mike:

I'm not sure what the rig uses for its ADC/DAC, but those play a limiting role in the meaningful range of the spectrum and waterfall displays. I'm no EE guy, but the hardware puts severe limits on what software can do to present information on the display.

Jack, W8TEE

On Saturday, March 30, 2024 at 09:22:31 PM EDT, Mike WA0YCN <mgassman@...> wrote:


Has there been any change with v3 to support a wider waterfall width (e.g. 100 kHz or wider)?
--
Mike
WA0YCN

--
Jack, W8TEE