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Re: SA/NE612 vs. TA7358AP IP3 & signal handling?

Pavel Milanes Costa
 

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Many Thanks Mvs Sarma (VU3ZMV) !

Hi have redesigned my hardware with the data in the PDF and results are improved, I can confirm the mixer conversion gain (audio out) when RL is above 3.8k, below that point you got losses in the detected audio.

I had 1k of load at the mixer output, now changed to 8k2 and got some gain, also I left one RF section out the RF path as I was getting compression due to over amplification, confirmed with your data and working now as expected, with a clean and linear RF path.

In short: I was overloading the poor TA7385AP and the NE612 more overloaded than the TA strangely the TA supported the overloading better... (it was more "linear" than the NE with overload.)

Many Thanks!


El 04/08/17 a las 01:48, Mvs Sarma via Groups.Io escribió:

Here is the full copy of the evaluation.
regards
?vu3zmv


On Friday, 4 August 2017 11:07 AM, Mvs Sarma <mvssarma@...> wrote:


i have some data?? on TA7358 evaluation by JH5ESM, Cosy MUTO
?it was a copy of html file
?I could not convert it to pdf how ever , the rf performance section is? pasted here , tentative permission of the original author.
Evaluation schematic of RF section is shown in Fig.4.
Measurements were made by reading output voltage amplitude by a oscilloscope.

RF
                          section under test
Fig.4 Evaluation schematic of RF section.
Figure 5 represents the results and 36.3[dB] gain is obtained. Note that the input voltage is SSG readout for 50[Ω] load, but in acutal, input impedance of TA7358 RF section is expected as 32.5[Ω]. Therefore, actual gain is determined by 38.4[dB].?
Transconductance is then calculated as 30.8[mS] and it is very agree with estimated value from bias condition.
Maximum allowable input level is -37[dBV] (=14.1[mVrms]=20[mVp]) and it is very agree with single transistor amplifier..
?

On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Pavel Milanes Costa <pavelmc@...> wrote:
I know, this is a little off-topic but as this two ICs are very common in ham homebrewed equipments...

I'm building a kind of sweep/spectrum analyzer and I'm noticing better signal handling with the TA7358 vs. SA/NE612.

The data-sheets of the SA/NE612 tells that with about -15dBm of rf input you start to get IP3 compression in action, but I can't find that parameter for the Toshiba TA7358AP.

Google doesn't give me any useful info about it.

TA7358AP data-sheet don't shows any data of IP3 or maximum signal handling, but does show a sensitivity limit of about -100dBm (SA/NE612 is about -119dBm)

Does any on the list has some info about the TA7358AP IP3 and input signal handling?

73 Pavel CO7WT.








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Re: Rag-chew PTT?

 

I use a push button switch, push once to talk, push again to receive.


Re: Juliano n6qw vs Farhan vu2ese???

9a3xz
 

just for fun dear friend ---dont worry be happy ;) :)

Virus-free.

2017-08-07 15:39 GMT+02:00 Ben Bangerter, K0IKR via Groups.Io <bwbangerter@...>:

Sorry I don't know what to make of this.? And watching the video made me seasick!



Re: uBitx almost finished by Bore Lezaic into CM2KMK PCB

David
 

A option might be to have the coils made as an assembly line with one person responsible for one section of the coil. Also, a test jig to test each section as it is made. A bit more front end but a lot less rework.

Sent from my iPhone


Re: Juliano n6qw vs Farhan vu2ese???

 

Sorry I don't know what to make of this. ?And watching the video made me seasick!


Re: Rag-chew PTT?

John P
 

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 04:07 am, Dexter N Muir wrote:
My thumb gets tired from holding the PTT on my FT-470
I added a foot switch to my BitX-20 for field day, now I use it all the time.
?
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John - WA2FZW


Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, August 6, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

Many stations that I normally could hear were very weak, barely above the noise.


Re: Rag-chew PTT?

chris gress
 

My bitx only used portable so I use a switch ?marked r/t with a green led see photo?

On 7 Aug 2017 12:08, "Dexter N Muir" <dexy@...> wrote:
My thumb gets tired from holding the PTT on my FT-470, and most desk mics have a lock-on option for longer overs. The tiny button supplied with the BITX40 kit, wired to one of the 2-pin plug assemblies, makes a usable PTT, but not a comfortable one - I'd like to have it toggle TX on and off, preferably as a menu item/option under the function button. Anyone done this? A code block/fragment? I've outlined a possible menu structure for use with an Encoder that includes this, but some other kind 'programmer-boffin' would need to code it - BASIC back it the 80's was the extent of my expertise there. Anyone interested? Dex, ZL2DEX


Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, August 6, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

Greg Neely
 

Picked up what I believe was a "BIT-X rollcall" on an 8:30 CDT on a Sony SW receiver. I was just North of Capital Mall in Jefferson City. It was within 5 kHz of the 7277 kHz, but this is a 40 year old receiver, ?so the VFO display may need calibration.? My goal for next Sunday is to get audio of the session. To much noise to get callsigns, but I heard "we've got 9...let's take it from the top." ?- KL4JN - ?Greg

On Aug 6, 2017 6:22 PM, "John KC9OJV" <greusel@...> wrote:
Calling CQ Bitx from Chicago KC9OJV
7.277


Fox Delta VFO

 

In perusing the web, I noticed that Fox Delta has a new VFO in their lineup.
It features the Si5351 and is rather primitive compared to some of the work on this list.

But it has a couple of interesting features. It uses a PIC chip (and the hex code is freely available).
It has only 2 outputs (CLK0 and CLK1). And it has a transformer output of the signals, making
them floating and differential. That is perhaps the most interesting part...

john
AD5YE


Juliano n6qw vs Farhan vu2ese???

9a3xz
 


Rag-chew PTT?

 

My thumb gets tired from holding the PTT on my FT-470, and most desk mics have a lock-on option for longer overs. The tiny button supplied with the BITX40 kit, wired to one of the 2-pin plug assemblies, makes a usable PTT, but not a comfortable one - I'd like to have it toggle TX on and off, preferably as a menu item/option under the function button. Anyone done this? A code block/fragment? I've outlined a possible menu structure for use with an Encoder that includes this, but some other kind 'programmer-boffin' would need to code it - BASIC back it the 80's was the extent of my expertise there. Anyone interested? Dex, ZL2DEX


Re: Finally Done

lostfrogsrecords
 

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Beautiful!? Great work!

Dave, KI4PSR


On 8/6/2017 10:54 PM, Curt M. wrote:

Hi guys, after getting off to a rockie start with the first Bitx 40 that I received the second one has been working great. I've had a few QSO's with it so I'm pretty happy about that. Today I finally drilled out a volume knob that I bought online and I think that's the last thing I'm going to do to this radio.?

I installed 1.20.1, the diodes for front end protection along with the capacitor to take care of the harmonics so unless something earth-shattering comes out in a future firmware release, mine's probably going to stay just like this. I posted a few pictures below.?

Curt







Re: Finally Done

 

Hi John, not sure why they labeled that 18V but it's meant to be a separate power connection for the PA.?


Re: uBitx almost finished by Bore Lezaic into CM2KMK PCB

 

We have tried all that. There are issues with that too. They dont count properly. Ten turns instead of 9 turns can completely wipe out the 10 meter band

On 7 Aug 2017 2:09 pm, "Mvs Sarma" <mvssarma@...> wrote:
Farhan jee
?Ask them to use different colored wires for different coils,
?like Green would be 9T and blue would be 10T etc


On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
I am not sure that it would make it to hfsigs yet. pcb is a only a small part of the entire job to get it on hfsigs. it took me months to train the 'girls' to figure out the transformers, coils, etc. there are five different windings on the T30-6 toroids, they can easily mix up a 9 turn coil for a 10 turn coil. the logistics are daunting.

Cost escalation can bring manufacturing peace, but that will defeat the whole point. It would be sweet if the board could be delivered at the 100 dollar mark. i would love that very much.

btw, just as a note. there are no restrictions on anyone kitting the ubitx. i hope somebody else does it soon enough. i'd like to buy one too!

- f

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:02 PM, chris gress <Chrisg0wfh@...> wrote:
One would be on my shopping list

On 7 Aug 2017 07:30, "alf" <fpdbase@...> wrote:
Nice Job, multi-band 4 leg critter

Silly question, When does it appear on HFSigs?

73 Alf vk2yac


Ashhar Farhan wrote:
Here is a four-legged critter on my bench!
- f









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Sarma
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Re: uBitx almost finished by Bore Lezaic into CM2KMK PCB

 

Farhan jee
?Ask them to use different colored wires for different coils,
?like Green would be 9T and blue would be 10T etc


On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
I am not sure that it would make it to hfsigs yet. pcb is a only a small part of the entire job to get it on hfsigs. it took me months to train the 'girls' to figure out the transformers, coils, etc. there are five different windings on the T30-6 toroids, they can easily mix up a 9 turn coil for a 10 turn coil. the logistics are daunting.

Cost escalation can bring manufacturing peace, but that will defeat the whole point. It would be sweet if the board could be delivered at the 100 dollar mark. i would love that very much.

btw, just as a note. there are no restrictions on anyone kitting the ubitx. i hope somebody else does it soon enough. i'd like to buy one too!

- f

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:02 PM, chris gress <Chrisg0wfh@...> wrote:
One would be on my shopping list

On 7 Aug 2017 07:30, "alf" <fpdbase@...> wrote:
Nice Job, multi-band 4 leg critter

Silly question, When does it appear on HFSigs?

73 Alf vk2yac


Ashhar Farhan wrote:
Here is a four-legged critter on my bench!
- f









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Regards
Sarma
?


Xtal filter mods with results

 

Xtal filter performance of my board #888. Each line is 500Hz - 3db BW is ~1.6Khz, 6Khz is ~ 1850Hz

Center line is 11.998 MHz

Emacs!

C25,26,27 was changed to 82pF, 3db BW is 2Khz and 6db BW is 2200Hz. The BFO frequency may need to increased to
11.999 instead of 11.9985

Emacs!


73

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Bengaluru, South India.


Re: uBitx almost finished by Bore Lezaic into CM2KMK PCB

 

I am not sure that it would make it to hfsigs yet. pcb is a only a small part of the entire job to get it on hfsigs. it took me months to train the 'girls' to figure out the transformers, coils, etc. there are five different windings on the T30-6 toroids, they can easily mix up a 9 turn coil for a 10 turn coil. the logistics are daunting.

Cost escalation can bring manufacturing peace, but that will defeat the whole point. It would be sweet if the board could be delivered at the 100 dollar mark. i would love that very much.

btw, just as a note. there are no restrictions on anyone kitting the ubitx. i hope somebody else does it soon enough. i'd like to buy one too!

- f

On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 12:02 PM, chris gress <Chrisg0wfh@...> wrote:
One would be on my shopping list

On 7 Aug 2017 07:30, "alf" <fpdbase@...> wrote:
Nice Job, multi-band 4 leg critter

Silly question, When does it appear on HFSigs?

73 Alf vk2yac


Ashhar Farhan wrote:
Here is a four-legged critter on my bench!
- f







Re: uBitx almost finished by Bore Lezaic into CM2KMK PCB

chris gress
 

One would be on my shopping list

On 7 Aug 2017 07:30, "alf" <fpdbase@...> wrote:
Nice Job, multi-band 4 leg critter

Silly question, When does it appear on HFSigs?

73 Alf vk2yac


Ashhar Farhan wrote:
Here is a four-legged critter on my bench!
- f






Re: uBitx almost finished by Bore Lezaic into CM2KMK PCB

 

Nice Job, multi-band 4 leg critter

Silly question, When does it appear on HFSigs?

73 Alf vk2yac


Ashhar Farhan wrote:

Here is a four-legged critter on my bench!
- f