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Re: uBitx CM2KMK PCB performance in a South Africa pileup...

 

Who?
Heriberto or Tony?

¡°If you have a penny and I have a penny and we exchange pennies, you still have one cent and I still have one cent.? But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange ideas, you now have two ideas and I now have two ideas.¡±?

Mr. Juan Carlos Berberena Gonzalez, BSc.
WJ6C exCO6BG?


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2017-10-08 13:34 GMT-04:00 Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...>:

fabulous job! Is he here on the list?

- f

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Juan Carlos Berberena Glez <cubanqrp@...> wrote:
Hi guys please check it out.


and interested too:


Qrv's
73's Jc
WJ6C ex/CO6BG




Re: uBitx CM2KMK PCB performance in a South Africa pileup...

 

fabulous job! Is he here on the list?

- f

On Sun, Oct 8, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Juan Carlos Berberena Glez <cubanqrp@...> wrote:
Hi guys please check it out.


and interested too:


Qrv's
73's Jc
WJ6C ex/CO6BG



uBitx CM2KMK PCB performance in a South Africa pileup...

 

Hi guys please check it out.


and interested too:


Qrv's
73's Jc
WJ6C ex/CO6BG


Re: l7805cv Gets hot! #bitx40help

 

The 5 V regulator on my raduino runs cool. ?My raduino, including the LCD display, draws 76 mA at supply voltages from 8-12 volts. ?Where is all your current going? ?I removed the regulator and reinstalled it on the side of the board where the connctors attach.

Ben - K0IKR


Re: Use of BitX40 for WSJT-X

 

Ooops...you were asking about JT65. I did make a couple contacts using JT65, but the transmissions are even longer. I had no problems with the contacts I made. It seems to be less crowded.


Re: Use of BitX40 for WSJT-X

 

Been running FT8 for the last several days with no problems. After about 5 contacts, I'll let the radio "rest" for a little bit. Even with the power reduced, I can feel the heat sink getting warm. The furthest contact was with an EA8. Worked bunches of US stations, and hearing lots of DX.


Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, October 8, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

John P
 

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Re: Filter Stuff

 

Instead of using 270 pF caps, replace them with 2 120 npo caps in parallel
and see what happens to the "dip". It should be considerably less. Can you post
a picture of the passband?

Generally, a 1dB dip would just be barely audible. A 3 dB dip splits the passband
in two. What would happen if one were to try a CW signal through it? It is also
likely that the SSB signal would not fit on the wall of the passband properly.
Hence distortion.

john
AD5YE


Re: Filter Stuff

 

I have been playing!?? Tested Crystals and pick some.? I did the filter in the Ubit.? 8 crystals.? 12 MHz, the tall ones surplus.

Not the short uProcessor ones.

Bought a bunch from All Electronics.

Two in parallel with input and output.


I some how came up with the info that my caps to ground were about 250pF.? With 270 pf in place.? I get a big dip.? 3dB or so. Right in the middle of the pass band.

So 2 lobs, over 3 dB?

I have a transformer 1:2 ? to test with 50 Ohms generator.

What would 3dB ripple sound like.

With no series caps, just like Ubit, can I get rid of the ripple?

Anyone know any changes.

Mike, WA6ISP


Re: Heat sink

 

I do this too.? I'm running a large 2"x2"x1.5" chipset heatsink with good thermal grease.? It doesn't even get warm.

On Oct 7, 2017 7:33 PM, "Vince Vielhaber" <vev@...> wrote:
I use a 7812 to power the radio and send the unregulated to the PA. Take note, the cap on the PA power is only rated for 25 volts.

Vince.



On 10/07/2017 05:07 PM, Brent Seres wrote:
OK gang

I want to try to run the PA off 24 volts. Any suggestions as to size or
type of heatsink.
Do I have to re-adjust the bias, etc?

I was wondering if anyone has used a 7812 to regulate power to the main
board, or is it better to use 2 supplies?

The radio is working very well, with multiple contacts on both cw and
ssb over the last week.

73
Brent


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Re: Heat sink

Vince Vielhaber
 

I use a 7812 to power the radio and send the unregulated to the PA. Take note, the cap on the PA power is only rated for 25 volts.

Vince.

On 10/07/2017 05:07 PM, Brent Seres wrote:
OK gang

I want to try to run the PA off 24 volts. Any suggestions as to size or
type of heatsink.
Do I have to re-adjust the bias, etc?

I was wondering if anyone has used a 7812 to regulate power to the main
board, or is it better to use 2 supplies?

The radio is working very well, with multiple contacts on both cw and
ssb over the last week.

73
Brent
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Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Use of BitX40 for WSJT-X

 

Only on receive so far. it works really well after I removed C91 and C92 as recommended from other post in this group for USB enhancement.
Transmit will take some experimenting.? The heat dissipation is hard on the PA after transmissions.? Check out this group I'm pretty sure others have worked this out for JT65.

On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 6:29 PM, <tsalmon534@...> wrote:
Has anyone success in using the BitX 40 for JT-65?
Ted WD4CAV



Re: Use of BitX40 for WSJT-X

Joe Puma
 

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I am successfully using it with FT8. Using a raspberry pi and wsjt-x. I made PTT with a USB to serial adapter and made a circuit for the RTS signal. Had a little problem because there was some sort of ground leak and the bitx40 ?stayed keyed after the push to talk released but I worked around it and if you use the proper audio interface kit that has a ground isolator you shouldn't have a problem. It's my best use of my bitx so far. I would like to add agc next. It needs it.?

Joe
KD2NFC?

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On Oct 7, 2017, at 7:29 PM, tsalmon534@... wrote:

Has anyone success in using the BitX 40 for JT-65?
Ted WD4CAV


Re: Heat sink

 

A diode is a good start. ?
But Q13 and R141 can exceed dissipation limits even when running at 12v,
If running off a fully charged lead-acid battery at 14v you will be severely stressing those parts.

I think an LM2940 between your power supply and the main Bitx40 12v power connection would be ideal. ?
Unlike the older LM7812, the LM2940 will provide reverse battery protection (just like a diode).
It will also protect Q13 and R141 from an incoming supply that exceeds 12v.

Power to the IRF510 doesn't need protection from a couple extra volts on the power supply
like that,?but could use protection from too much drain current. ? Perhaps just a 3A fast blow fuse.
Better yet, a current sense circuit that grounds out the gate bias voltage when it sees trouble:
? ?
Another plan is to have a dozen spare IRF510's on hand, they're quite cheap.

I'll defer to John and the others here on how to avoid clipping on that IRF510
and how much of a problem it might be. ?Not something I have fully figured out. ?
But my suspicion is that with only 100ma of quiescent drain current through the IRF510,
it will have to have high side drain current peaks of an Amp or two in order to generate 20 Watts of RF.
And since drive into the gate is AC coupled from Q14 and thus driving the IRF510
symetricaly about the quiescent gate voltage, it will spend an awful lot of time
with drain current at zero when it sees the incoming low going peaks.
However, most of that distortion would be harmonics of the transmit frequency,
and easily filtered by the LPF.


On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 03:06 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
Having at least a diode on the main power into the board is not a bad idea to give reverse power protection.


Use of BitX40 for WSJT-X

 

Has anyone success in using the BitX 40 for JT-65?
Ted WD4CAV


Re: Heat sink

 

Jerry has some good ideas but the easiest solution to
clipping is to slightly increase the drain voltage. Assuming the
same drive level.

Most likely, clipping will occur on the higher frequency peaks (if it does).
The level at which clipping begins is more or less controlled by the IF bandwidth, i.e.,
the xtal filter bandwidth -- the more highs that get through, the more likely it is that
there is clipping. If it occurs on only an occasional high, it can usually be ignored. If
it is more often, it will have to be addressed.

The simplest solution is to increase the drain voltage to 28v or 30v.
That allows a greater excursion of the signal in the final. The IRF510
is a 70v device; I would not try to get much beyond 60v Pk-Pk of signal
out of it. Alternatively, you can get rid of the distortion in the LPF, but it is
much more work and figuring to do it that way. Mind you, the LPF still has to
handle the power you put through it, no matter what.

Yes, you will require a heat sink. The heat transfer derating coefficient is about
.30 degrees C per watt! The maximum allowed difference between the junction
and ambient temperature is 3.5 degrees C per watt. That means that at 10W output
the maximum temperature difference between the very small chip center and ambient
is 35 degrees! You probably cannot get too big a heat sink if you are using the device
for AM or SSB. Something like an Intel cpu heat sink or a large sink for a voltage converter
works well. (And the cpu sink gives you a fan as well! Hi.)

And use a good transfer grease between the tab and sink. It isn't rocket science.
Just think about how to get rid of a lot of heat generation; it will come to you.

john
AD5YE


Re: Heat sink

 

The rig draws around 150ma, so regulating down from 24 to 12v that 7812 would be dissipating 2 Watts.
Could be made to work, but will need a heat sink. ?I'd go with two supplies.

Or maybe a boost switcher that turns on only when transmitting when you need more power than 12v gives
? ??
I have no idea if that thing works, or if there is an easy way to enable/disable it.

Or have two 12v batteries, normally operated in parallel, run in series to drive the PA at elevated power,
main rig continues to run only off the bottom battery.

Having at least a diode on the main power into the board is not a bad idea to give reverse power protection.

On heatsink for the IRF510, just go big. ?Very poor thermal transfer from die to TO220 tab on those guys,
so we want to keep the tab as cool as we can. ?/g/BITX20/message/22597

I haven't tried running mine at over 12v yet, haven't had time to play with it.
Most folks here running at 24v seem to be leaving the bias set at 100ma,
but that has to be clipping the bottoms off the transmitted output, to be dealt with by the transmit LPF.
Though if it's clean enough, then that's the way to go as otherwise you are burning more power
in the IRF510, potentially zapping it with heat. ?Would be interesting to check the IRF510 for linearity?
when operating at 24v and 100ma of bias. ? And the transmissions for meeting legal requirements.

Best solution would be to steal the push-pull amp?
from the uBitx, as neither IRF510 there is drawing much current until you start shouting into that mike.
? ??/g/BITX20/message/33255

Jerry, KE7ER


On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 02:07 pm, Brent Seres wrote:
I want to try to run the PA off 24 volts. Any suggestions as to size or type of heatsink.
Do I have to re-adjust the bias, etc?

I was wondering if anyone has used a 7812 to regulate power to the main board, or is it better to use 2 supplies?

The radio is working very well, with multiple contacts on both cw and ssb over the last week.?


Re: Agc

 

You're welcome, Brent.

My anti-chunk (eventually) was an adaptation of I7SWX's. All-transistor. FETs are not essential for that - might be for AGC, but haven't got to that yet. Might even be able to use the clamp for both! I put a k or 2 (6.8 actually, just what was to hand and small enough) between clamp and amp - evidently reduces low-level hiss. I also put a delay on PTT release - just a few milliseconds, but cuts the Tx->Rx chunk.

73

Dex, ZL2DEX


Heat sink

 

OK gang

I want to try to run the PA off 24 volts. Any suggestions as to size or type of heatsink.
Do I have to re-adjust the bias, etc?

I was wondering if anyone has used a 7812 to regulate power to the main board, or is it better to use 2 supplies?

The radio is working very well, with multiple contacts on both cw and ssb over the last week.?

73
Brent


Re: Agc

 

Thanks Dex

Looks easy enough. That's what I love about this radio, it's inexpensive enough that you don't mind experimenting. I built the anti chunk circuit shown elsewhere here, that uses a 2n3906 to the ptt, driving a 2n7000, which shorts the lm386 input on ptt closure. I have it working well, but I did have to put a .02 (I think...was from the junk box) between the pot wiper and ground. I no longer get the thunder clap effect in the headset when I key the rig.

73
Brent, VE3CUS