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Re: uBITX - Digital mode power variation with input frequency #ubitx #ft8

 

This is because of how narrow the SSB filter is. Once you begin to move
out of the passband your power output will drop. The filter in the
ubitx is pretty narrow. It's not surprising you see a drop-off after
1600hz.

tim ab0wr

On Thu, 24 May 2018 10:57:27 -0700
"Robbie Robertson" <robbie.robertson@...> wrote:

I'm new to uBITX, but used to operating digital modes (including
FT8), but I'm not sure if what I'm seeing is a fault, or normal for
the uBITX... I'm using WSJT-X, and when I TX on the lower end of the
'spectrum' I get a much higher power output that the higher end
(sorry I haven't got a power meter, but I can see the current being
drawn from the power supply changing, and also the signal meter on my
FT767 with no antenna attached). This is strangely, the complete
opposite I get when operating using the FT767 (i.e. high power at the
higher end of the audio range).

Has anyone else experienced this,, or has a view on how to address it?

btw - I'm using a Easi Digi interface to feed PC headphone socket
output into the mic socker connection (no mic attached).


Re: 6uH in BITX40 band pass filter? #bitx40

 

?A?
ldrich

?I would use 41 turns to start with.? That way you can easily remove one turn if 41 turns
is too much.?

Arv? K7HKL
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 3:04 PM, Aldrich Sarmiento <aldrich.sarmiento@...> wrote:
Greetings, I'm about to start building a BITX40 with the dead bug style and I've noticed that the filter passes band indicates 6uH however 40 laps on a toroid T30-6 is 5.76uH, not 6 ... I mention this because in my toroids I have 5.8uH and if I give it one more lap I have 6.2uH. So, which one do I use?



Re: 2 meter bitx possible?

 

Ron W7HD

As has been said before, the 2N3904 devices in a BITX are not going to get you on
2M with any usable power.? Several have suggested using a transverter driven by a
BITX.? It might be possible to make a BITX work on 2M by building one with transistors
that have much higher frequency gain characteristics.? That could involve using a
different MOSFET or BJT device in the RF PA stage.?

2 Meters with a BITX is probably a significant design effort, resulting in something that
would be different from the basic BITX designs for HF.

Arv? K7HKL
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 2:33 PM, w7hd.rh <w7hd.rh@...> wrote:
Put me down for interest in 2M SSB!


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Re: Don't discount the rotary encoder as being at issue

 

Mike? KC2WBV, and others...

The rotary encoder apparently is a bit fragile.? All outputs (phase-A, phase-B, and the push-button
switch can easily be damaged if 5 or 12 volts at any substantial current level is accidentally applied
while the switch contacts are closed.? That said...your experience with the encoder seems to match
what some others have said recently.? Not yet sure if the problem is related to build instructions or to
the encoders themselves.? It might be interesting if one of the bad encoders could be opened to see
just what is going wrong with them.

Arv? K7HKL
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 2:26 PM, Mike aka KC2WVB <rb5363@...> wrote:
I had assembled both the UBitx and BitX40 last weekend. The 40 meter radio worked perfectly. The uBitX would not tune nor would it properly allow entering into the menu. I knew from testing the encoder that one side of rotary aspect was defective because it showed constant 4.68 volts dc but all else on the encoder seemed OK. I ordered 5 identical replacements for the encoder from Digi Key the night I assembled the radio. They just arrived today. While waiting for the encoder I was thinking the Raduino might be at issue too and was trying to find a replacement for it. I just installed the encoder and honestly I was geared to see no change but indeed that was the problem. The UBitX works perfectly now. I attached a picture showing the VFO is no longer stuck on 7.150 Mhz and you will have to trust me that pressing the shaft of the encoder provides all the menu features too.



6uH in BITX40 band pass filter? #bitx40

 

Greetings, I'm about to start building a BITX40 with the dead bug style and I've noticed that the filter passes band indicates 6uH however 40 laps on a toroid T30-6 is 5.76uH, not 6 ... I mention this because in my toroids I have 5.8uH and if I give it one more lap I have 6.2uH. So, which one do I use?


Re: Power problem !!! #ubitx #ubitx-help

 

Kalid

Several persons have provided ways to increase power output at higher frequencies.
Allison is presently working on additional ways to provide the same power output on
all bands.? If you go to the group page and do a search for "power" or "output" or
"increase power" you should find messages that address this work.

There is also the question of power meter accuracy as one goes up in frequency.
An Oscilloscope gives the most reliable measurement of power into a dummy load.
A diode detector probe can provide relative RF volts into a dummy load and thus
indicate power output difference between lower frequencies and higher frequencies.?

Arv? K7HKL
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On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 1:37 PM, ??? ?????? <hamad.kalid@...> wrote:
Hello everyone i faced problem with power when I measure the power with swr meter i get less than 10 watt in low side band in ultra side band i get 6 watt on 20 meter but 10 meter i get 0.6 watt so it's normally if it's can I use the amplifier to amplify to 20 watt ??



Re: Firmware Questions

 

Ok, gotcha! ?Hopefully I¡¯ll have some time in the next few days to get it together.?


Re: Help, can't change frequencies.

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

Had similar issue. New encoder from Digi Key fixed the issue.


On Fri, May 18, 2018, 10:10 PM <Kd4epg@...> wrote:

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72 and God bless
KD4EPG


Re: Help, can't change frequencies on uBitx

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

I had a similar issue and thought the Raduino might be an issue but a new encoder from Digi Key fixed the issue.


On Sat, May 19, 2018, 12:02 PM <Kd4epg@...> wrote:
Yes, it responds to the push button depression just fine...
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72 and God bless
KD4EPG


Re: Encoder issue

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

New encoder arrived today. Replaced the old with the new and wala the UBitX works perfectly now.


On Mon, May 21, 2018, 6:26 PM Mike aka KC2WVB <rb5363@...> wrote:
I was away for a few days and just tested the voltage off the 8 Pin outs of the Raduino board using a wall wart for power and yellow number 4 as ground.

From pin out 3 to 8 the voltage read 4.68 volts dc. Pin out 1 is not used but was giving random mil volt readings and so was pin out 2 which maps to the keyer.

With the encoder removed and the radio powered up I grounded red, pin out 6 to yellow which is what the encoder does when the shaft is depressed. This, I think, should have taken me into the standard menu but it did not seem to. It gave me two options one was do you want to change bands? The next momentary grounding of red to yellow said press to confirm and the last momentary grounding of red to yellow took the radio back to the frequency display. This does not seem right unless you have to unlock all the other menu features, so in spite of the voltage readings being seemingly OK I am thinking the Raduino is out to lunch.

Could you be so kind as to give me the contact information or web page from which you ordered your new Raduino from? I think I will have to do the same and can't seem to find the spare parts page.

Thanks and good luck on your radio.

Mike

On May 18, 2018 5:55 PM, "kj6etl" <pa1zz@...> wrote:
I have almost the exact same issue with my uBitx!!!!

I spend many hours trying to diagnose this problem at the end you can narrow it down to this:

  1. Disconnect the raduino board from the main board
  2. Disconnect the main connector
  3. Power it with a USB cable
  4. Measure voltage between pin 4 and 6 (Yellow to Red)
  5. It should read 5 Volt
It it doesn't read 5 Volt your Raduino board is bad and you have to replace it. So I ordered a new one ($35 shipping from India shigh..). Meantime bought a generic and will attempt to replace the failed one. Who knows I might have it working before the orignal board arrives.


Re: 2 meter bitx possible?

w7hd.rh
 

Put me down for interest in 2M SSB!


--
Ron W7HD - NAQCC#7587 OMISS#9898 KX3#6966 LinuxUser#415320
Editor OVARC newsletter


Don't discount the rotary encoder as being at issue

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

I had assembled both the UBitx and BitX40 last weekend. The 40 meter radio worked perfectly. The uBitX would not tune nor would it properly allow entering into the menu. I knew from testing the encoder that one side of rotary aspect was defective because it showed constant 4.68 volts dc but all else on the encoder seemed OK. I ordered 5 identical replacements for the encoder from Digi Key the night I assembled the radio. They just arrived today. While waiting for the encoder I was thinking the Raduino might be at issue too and was trying to find a replacement for it. I just installed the encoder and honestly I was geared to see no change but indeed that was the problem. The UBitX works perfectly now. I attached a picture showing the VFO is no longer stuck on 7.150 Mhz and you will have to trust me that pressing the shaft of the encoder provides all the menu features too.


JackAl board update

Jack Purdum
 

All:

We have finished the new set of Gerber files and will be sending those off today. Those new boards will be sent to our Beta testers for evaluation. We also know that there will be 13 pins brought out, of which 2 are analog pins. One pin is for Vbat, to supply power for the RTC if you use that feature. If you use the CW messaging feature, that requires 3 NO push button switches, which reduces the available pins to 9 with all features implemented. While we still have some software to add to the project, I still think you should have around 800K of flash and 200K of SRAM to use. While some people say they have over-clocked the controller, at 180MHz, we don't see the need. I don't see those parameters changing much. The 5" and 7" TFT displays are resistive touch and use the RA-8875 controller and the 4 wire SPI interface sold by BuyDisplay.com (ER-TFTM050-3 and ER-TFTM070-5). Most of the raw display management is on the graphics board. The connectors on JackAl are the 10 pin IDC type (e.g., eBay 282084089830). The board is based on the PJRC Teensy 3.8 and use the audio board from the same company. The final board size is 100x90mm. The common board parts are 1206 SMD's. All SMD parts (e.g., transistor, the Si5351, and other chips) are in place on the board. The connectors are not part of the board because we felt you may want to hang some "special stuff" on the rig.

Al and I still feel we are probably 2 months away from distribution.

Jack, W8TEE


Was: RF power chain mods and improvements.. IS: 45MHz IF Attenuation

 

Farhan,

The 45MHz filter slopes are much gentle than that at around 1dB, similar to Jerry's number.?

Here is the.plot of the response:

/g/BITX20/message/45675

73, John


Power problem !!! #ubitx #ubitx-help

??? ??????
 

Hello everyone i faced problem with power when I measure the power with swr meter i get less than 10 watt in low side band in ultra side band i get 6 watt on 20 meter but 10 meter i get 0.6 watt so it's normally if it's can I use the amplifier to amplify to 20 watt ??


Re: JackAl Board Debut

Jack Purdum
 

Gees! I just looked at the price!! That's almost twice the entire JackAl system!

Jack, W8TEE

On Thursday, May 24, 2018, 1:02:36 PM EDT, Richard E Neese <kb3vgw@...> wrote:




will this board work with your firmware ? I was thinking with all the pinouts I can do alot


Re: JackAl Board Debut

Jack Purdum
 

I doubt it, or it would at least require some major work as our screens are 800x480 and use the RA8875 graphics controller. I slightly modified the Sumatoy touch screen library, so it you have one that works with that library, the odds improve somewhat.

Jack, W8TEE

On Thursday, May 24, 2018, 1:02:36 PM EDT, Richard E Neese <kb3vgw@...> wrote:




will this board work with your firmware ? I was thinking with all the pinouts I can do alot


Re: Power of rf #ubitx #ubitx-help

 

small increase adjust RV1.? That increases all so go for about 10-11W on 80m and
see what you get on 10M.? It should improve but 4-5W is maximum.

Allison


Re: 2 meter bitx possible?

 

the spectral purity issue is a red herring as you will need band pas filters anyway.

The real issue the entire transmit chain is unsuitable for 2M. Most of the parts
are marginal at 30mhz.? Also you will want a preamp ahead of the receiver
as is noise figure is fine for HF but poor for VHF weak signal work.

It would make a good low power radio as a transverter TRX.? Since most
commercial transverters only need a milliwattt or three the entire pre-driver,
driver and finals could be deleted.?

Allison


Re: RF power chain mods and improvements..

 

How did this conversation end up here when there is another that is on topic
for attenuation via filter?

My self I'd not do it.? A DBM makes a fine attenuator just very the injection current.
Also the ND6T attenuator could? work in place of RV1.

Many ways to accomplish it but first we need to have enough gain to produce
the power.


Allison