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Grover,
The picture from Amie C. is of a v6 that the stock screen was replaced with a Nextion 2.8" touch screen.? There is a software update of the uBITX Nano to the KD8CEC software, and the correct .tft file loaded onto the Nextion screen.? The stock screen is not used. Here is a PDF of how it was done by one of the first to try the replacement: Have fun both using and modifying the uBITX.? It is good at both. 73 Evan AC9TU |
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On Jul 15, 2020, at 15:54, ot@... wrote:
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Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
Reed,
As a newbie, my vote doesn't count for much. For what it might be worth though, you've got my vote. I wasn't smart enough to recognize this shortcoming in the stock v6 software, but I am very glad I am using your software! Thanks, Stephen |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
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#v6
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I will have a closer look at the CEC software I already have. I recall the reason I installed it was because the CW keying was unsatisfactory and the CEC software fixed that. I have the memory manager but I think it didn't work with my Linux system. I will have to have another go at that or look in the menu system for a way to select that. Ashar has told us that he is a SSB operator and not a CW guy. The uBitX is like other radios that have CW included as an afterthought. They need a little help:) For the price a little help is not unreasonable. 73, Bill KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/15/20 8:10 AM, W2CTX via groups.io wrote:
If you have CEC software installed you can use the Memory Manager to reverse so |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 7:24:20 AM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi Reed, I suspect most hard-core CW ops agree with you. I find it troublesome keeping track of how much to add or subtract from radio to radio. My own V3 is set for 650 Hz offset. So is my PFR-3 but that one is CW-only and it transmits on the displayed frequency. It also has QSK:) My Kenwood transmits on the displayed frequency. My Atlas transmits on the displayed frequency. My Heathkit DX-100 and Johnson Ranger do too but that is only to be expects<wink>. I have been digging into the the Arduino programming so I can get the features I want in my V3. I will have a go your software if you have a version that works with the V3 and the two-line display. I installed it in a V6 for another ham and I liked it. It cured several woes with the original software. I put the CEC software in my V3 and that resolved several problems with the original software for that radio. I still have to add and subtract. I intend to fix that. It really is broken. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/15/20 3:19 AM, Reed N wrote: > The question of CW offset comes up a LOT more frequently than it really > should. Here's some reading material for everybody: > /g/BITX20/topic/71305167 > /g/BITX20/topic/71240646 > /g/BITX20/topic/69640840 > /g/BITX20/topic/68539883 > /g/BITX20/topic/30247137 > > My opinion is that the frequency displayed should be the carrier > (suppressed carrier if in SSB, and actual carrier in CW). This is how my > R1.5.0 software version operates, how TSW's Teensy software displays, > and how off-the-shelf radios like ICOM rigs work. There are lots of good > reasons to have the TX carrier be the value shown on screen, and if you > read through the above linked threads, many of them are explicitly listed. > > However, it is NOT how the stock v6 software operates. The stock v6 > software transmits CW at the listening frequency. So if your stock v6 > shows 7.025.000 on the dial and you have a 800Hz tone set, then you > actually transmit at 7.024.200, NOT the frequency shown on the screen! > This is the root of Jerry's problem. His reference rig is correctly > displaying the desired TX frequency, and if he were to key up with his > reference rig, he'd need to tune his uBiTX screen to display 800Hz ABOVE > that frequency to get the right tone, not the 800Hz tone offset > frequency that the stock v6 uBiTX is transmitting on. > > The fix isn't RIT - this isn't an issue of the receivers disagreeing > with the transmitters. The fix is to change the frequency displayed on > the uBiTX screen to show the actual transmitted carrier frequency. > > > Reed > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
If you have CEC software installed you can use the Memory Manager to reverse so the transmit frequency is displayed.? Others will have to pitch in as I do not have the specifics. Ron
On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 7:24:20 AM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi Reed, I suspect most hard-core CW ops agree with you. I find it troublesome keeping track of how much to add or subtract from radio to radio. My own V3 is set for 650 Hz offset. So is my PFR-3 but that one is CW-only and it transmits on the displayed frequency. It also has QSK:) My Kenwood transmits on the displayed frequency. My Atlas transmits on the displayed frequency. My Heathkit DX-100 and Johnson Ranger do too but that is only to be expects<wink>. I have been digging into the the Arduino programming so I can get the features I want in my V3. I will have a go your software if you have a version that works with the V3 and the two-line display. I installed it in a V6 for another ham and I liked it. It cured several woes with the original software. I put the CEC software in my V3 and that resolved several problems with the original software for that radio. I still have to add and subtract. I intend to fix that. It really is broken. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/15/20 3:19 AM, Reed N wrote: > The question of CW offset comes up a LOT more frequently than it really > should. Here's some reading material for everybody: > /g/BITX20/topic/71305167 > /g/BITX20/topic/71240646 > /g/BITX20/topic/69640840 > /g/BITX20/topic/68539883 > /g/BITX20/topic/30247137 > > My opinion is that the frequency displayed should be the carrier > (suppressed carrier if in SSB, and actual carrier in CW). This is how my > R1.5.0 software version operates, how TSW's Teensy software displays, > and how off-the-shelf radios like ICOM rigs work. There are lots of good > reasons to have the TX carrier be the value shown on screen, and if you > read through the above linked threads, many of them are explicitly listed. > > However, it is NOT how the stock v6 software operates. The stock v6 > software transmits CW at the listening frequency. So if your stock v6 > shows 7.025.000 on the dial and you have a 800Hz tone set, then you > actually transmit at 7.024.200, NOT the frequency shown on the screen! > This is the root of Jerry's problem. His reference rig is correctly > displaying the desired TX frequency, and if he were to key up with his > reference rig, he'd need to tune his uBiTX screen to display 800Hz ABOVE > that frequency to get the right tone, not the 800Hz tone offset > frequency that the stock v6 uBiTX is transmitting on. > > The fix isn't RIT - this isn't an issue of the receivers disagreeing > with the transmitters. The fix is to change the frequency displayed on > the uBiTX screen to show the actual transmitted carrier frequency. > > > Reed > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
Hi Reed,
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I suspect most hard-core CW ops agree with you. I find it troublesome keeping track of how much to add or subtract from radio to radio. My own V3 is set for 650 Hz offset. So is my PFR-3 but that one is CW-only and it transmits on the displayed frequency. It also has QSK:) My Kenwood transmits on the displayed frequency. My Atlas transmits on the displayed frequency. My Heathkit DX-100 and Johnson Ranger do too but that is only to be expects<wink>. I have been digging into the the Arduino programming so I can get the features I want in my V3. I will have a go your software if you have a version that works with the V3 and the two-line display. I installed it in a V6 for another ham and I liked it. It cured several woes with the original software. I put the CEC software in my V3 and that resolved several problems with the original software for that radio. I still have to add and subtract. I intend to fix that. It really is broken. 73, Bill KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/15/20 3:19 AM, Reed N wrote:
The question of CW offset comes up a LOT more frequently than it really should. Here's some reading material for everybody: |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
The question of CW offset comes up a LOT more frequently than it really should. Here's some reading material for everybody:
/g/BITX20/topic/71305167 /g/BITX20/topic/71240646 /g/BITX20/topic/69640840 /g/BITX20/topic/68539883 /g/BITX20/topic/30247137 My opinion is that the frequency displayed should be the carrier (suppressed carrier if in SSB, and actual carrier in CW). This is how my R1.5.0 software version operates, how TSW's Teensy software displays, and how off-the-shelf radios like ICOM rigs work. There are lots of good reasons to have the TX carrier be the value shown on screen, and if you read through the above linked threads, many of them are explicitly listed. However, it is NOT how the stock v6 software operates. The stock v6 software transmits CW at the listening frequency. So if your stock v6 shows 7.025.000 on the dial and you have a 800Hz tone set, then you actually transmit at 7.024.200, NOT the frequency shown on the screen! This is the root of Jerry's problem. His reference rig is correctly displaying the desired TX frequency, and if he were to key up with his reference rig, he'd need to tune his uBiTX screen to display 800Hz ABOVE that frequency to get the right tone, not the 800Hz tone offset frequency that the stock v6 uBiTX is transmitting on. The fix isn't RIT - this isn't an issue of the receivers disagreeing with the transmitters. The fix is to change the frequency displayed on the uBiTX screen to show the actual transmitted carrier frequency. Reed |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
I am not saying that it would not work it is just not compatible with standard CW practice. If you display receive frequency then it is possible to be transmitting outside the band limits.
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:55:59 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
Right. And this is what can be done if you made contact and both are not on the same frequency. THIS is standard CW practice...
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:50:55 PM EDT, W2CTX via groups.io <w2ctx@...> wrote:
Receive Increment.? If the person you are talking with is off your transmit frequency you can tune him in without changing your transmit frequency.? Important because if you change your frequency to tune him in he will probably not receive you well and he might change his frequency.? You will chase each other around the band. Used mostly when tube radio drifted. Ron
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:42:33 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
What then is the clarifier/RIT control for? QUESTION MARK Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:13:53 PM EDT, W2CTX via groups.io <w2ctx@...> wrote:
It would not be better because the accepted standard for CW is the dial displays the transmit frequency.? PERIOD
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:07:34 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
Jerry, I believe it would be better to use the clarifier/RIT control to set the tone to a more pleasing receive frequency than to do any other adjustment, as Bill indicated After a while, you may find that the degree of offset/RIT used is a more constant receive offset. This is what I do when using CW. Either this or get used to another receive tone than the one you may now be used to. This may or may not be the same frequency as the CW sidetone that you hear with transmitting. Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 9:33:57 PM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi, Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote: > I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem > with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I > can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a > FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz > below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the > USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little > rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. > 73's, > Jerry W9KTP > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
Right. And this is what can be done if you made contact and both are not on the same frequency. THIS is standard CW practice...
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:50:55 PM EDT, W2CTX via groups.io <w2ctx@...> wrote:
Receive Increment.? If the person you are talking with is off your transmit frequency you can tune him in without changing your transmit frequency.? Important because if you change your frequency to tune him in he will probably not receive you well and he might change his frequency.? You will chase each other around the band. Used mostly when tube radio drifted. Ron
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:42:33 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
What then is the clarifier/RIT control for? QUESTION MARK Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:13:53 PM EDT, W2CTX via groups.io <w2ctx@...> wrote:
It would not be better because the accepted standard for CW is the dial displays the transmit frequency.? PERIOD
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:07:34 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
Jerry, I believe it would be better to use the clarifier/RIT control to set the tone to a more pleasing receive frequency than to do any other adjustment, as Bill indicated After a while, you may find that the degree of offset/RIT used is a more constant receive offset. This is what I do when using CW. Either this or get used to another receive tone than the one you may now be used to. This may or may not be the same frequency as the CW sidetone that you hear with transmitting. Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 9:33:57 PM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi, Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote: > I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem > with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I > can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a > FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz > below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the > USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little > rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. > 73's, > Jerry W9KTP > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
Receive Increment.? If the person you are talking with is off your transmit frequency you can tune him in without changing your transmit frequency.? Important because if you change your frequency to tune him in he will probably not receive you well and he might change his frequency.? You will chase each other around the band. Used mostly when tube radio drifted. Ron
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:42:33 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
What then is the clarifier/RIT control for? QUESTION MARK Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:13:53 PM EDT, W2CTX via groups.io <w2ctx@...> wrote:
It would not be better because the accepted standard for CW is the dial displays the transmit frequency.? PERIOD
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:07:34 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
Jerry, I believe it would be better to use the clarifier/RIT control to set the tone to a more pleasing receive frequency than to do any other adjustment, as Bill indicated After a while, you may find that the degree of offset/RIT used is a more constant receive offset. This is what I do when using CW. Either this or get used to another receive tone than the one you may now be used to. This may or may not be the same frequency as the CW sidetone that you hear with transmitting. Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 9:33:57 PM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi, Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote: > I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem > with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I > can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a > FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz > below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the > USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little > rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. > 73's, > Jerry W9KTP > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
What then is the clarifier/RIT control for? QUESTION MARK Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:13:53 PM EDT, W2CTX via groups.io <w2ctx@...> wrote:
It would not be better because the accepted standard for CW is the dial displays the transmit frequency.? PERIOD
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:07:34 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
Jerry, I believe it would be better to use the clarifier/RIT control to set the tone to a more pleasing receive frequency than to do any other adjustment, as Bill indicated After a while, you may find that the degree of offset/RIT used is a more constant receive offset. This is what I do when using CW. Either this or get used to another receive tone than the one you may now be used to. This may or may not be the same frequency as the CW sidetone that you hear with transmitting. Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 9:33:57 PM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi, Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote: > I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem > with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I > can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a > FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz > below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the > USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little > rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. > 73's, > Jerry W9KTP > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
It would not be better because the accepted standard for CW is the dial displays the transmit frequency.? PERIOD
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:07:34 PM EDT, Bob Lunsford via groups.io <nocrud222@...> wrote:
Jerry, I believe it would be better to use the clarifier/RIT control to set the tone to a more pleasing receive frequency than to do any other adjustment, as Bill indicated After a while, you may find that the degree of offset/RIT used is a more constant receive offset. This is what I do when using CW. Either this or get used to another receive tone than the one you may now be used to. This may or may not be the same frequency as the CW sidetone that you hear with transmitting. Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 9:33:57 PM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi, Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote: > I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem > with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I > can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a > FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz > below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the > USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little > rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. > 73's, > Jerry W9KTP > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
Jerry, I believe it would be better to use the clarifier/RIT control to set the tone to a more pleasing receive frequency than to do any other adjustment, as Bill indicated After a while, you may find that the degree of offset/RIT used is a more constant receive offset. This is what I do when using CW. Either this or get used to another receive tone than the one you may now be used to. This may or may not be the same frequency as the CW sidetone that you hear with transmitting. Bob ¡ª KK5R
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 9:33:57 PM EDT, Bill Cromwell <wrcromwell@...> wrote:
Hi, Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill? KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote: > I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem > with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I > can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a > FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz > below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the > USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little > rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. > 73's, > Jerry W9KTP > |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
The stock software offsets like Bill said. If you want the transmit to match the dial, try loading my software on your radio instead. One of the changes I made was to make the dial frequency be the carrier for both CW and SSB.
Reed |
Re: UBITX V6.1 CW Off Frequency
#calibration
#cw
#v6
Hi,
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Your radio is programmed to do that. It's the CW offset. The frequency displayed is the frequency your radio is set to receive on SSB. That is the same as the TX frequency for SSB. On CW it is not. When USB is selected along with CW your TX frequency is 800 Hz higher. With LSB it is 800 Hz lower. If you change the CW offset the 800 gets changed to whatever you have selected for your CW offset. With the programming in your radio it seems to be perfectly aligned. 73, Bill KU8H bark less - wag more On 7/14/20 3:38 PM, jerryhess@... wrote:
I assembled my new UBITX V6.1 about two weeks ago and have a problem with my CW signal being off frequency. Calibration seems correct since I can make SSB (LSB/USB) contacts with no problem. I have verified with a FTDX 5000 transceiver that the transmitted signal is about 800 hertz below the received signal. The "RIT" and "SPL" buttons are off. Only the USB/CW or LSB/CW buttons are lit based on the band. An amazing little rig otherwise. Hopefully someone knows what to do next. |
Re: UBITX V4 for sale
#v4
Mike Short
Now I can¡¯t find it. If I do, yes I will ship to AU.? On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 03:27 Paul <sthcsttkd@...> wrote:
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