Re: File /3.2 & 3.5 for Nextion and CEC 1.095/ubitx_35D7.HMI uploaded
#file-notice
any chance of finding the file for a 5 inch display for? CDC load?
vince
n2aie
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Re: #sbitx - an ugprade kit is on the way
#sBitx
Thanks,..
looking forward to receiving my kit.
vince
n2aie
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I'd be more concerned than impressed - that seems way too high, given the components used.
Ken, N2VIP
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On Aug 16, 2022, at 19:57, Rafael Diniz <rafael@...> wrote:
Hi everybody,
Got impressed that the wattmeter showed peaks of 66W on CW on 40m band! Yay!
That is correct, right?
Thanks,
Rafael
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Rafael, I would suggest installing a switching regulator before you pump up to such high levels. The transistors need to run cool.
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 5:27 AM Rafael Diniz < rafael@...> wrote: Hi everybody,
Got impressed that the wattmeter showed peaks of 66W on CW on 40m band!
Yay!
That is correct, right?
Thanks,
Rafael
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Max, Keven Loughin, KB9RLW, did a Youtube video, "Ham Radio - The doublet vs EFHW noise rejection cmparison."? where he shows the effects his and his neighbors inverters have on reception. He lives in a RV and has converted just about everything in his RV to run off 12V and seldom runs his inverter.
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Re: Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6
Frankly I believe that one should never send CW faster than they can copy. I don't know what he intends to do if the decoder malfunctions or his computer freezes up. Or try to copy the other station when their signal is weak enough or conditions too noisy to get a good decode.
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St. Paul, KS
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Re: DAYLIGHT RADIO - PLASTIC TOROID MASTER
I do not see a problem. As long as we are gentle when winding the coils and add shielding per Ashhar¡¯s instructions for the filters, we can just use minimal ¡®fill¡¯ for a nearly hollow PLA toroid form, right? Or maybe I missed something (it would not be the first time)?
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Hi everybody,
Got impressed that the wattmeter showed peaks of 66W on CW on 40m band! Yay!
That is correct, right?
Thanks,
Rafael
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Re: Sbitx finals replacement
Farhan
No progress today. I guess I will wait for the upgrade kit. I have built and fixed several Ubitx rigs but this issue has me stumped.?
Anyway once it get it going again I will enjoy this one as much.?
Art
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On Aug 15, 2022, at 14:26, olson339@... wrote:
? So my problem I suspect is in the transmit section of the Sbitx. I got out the schematic and measured dc voltage on the source and gate of Q9 IRF4905. They are both the same 13.79 volts. So perhaps the PAs I bought are suspect. My thought is that when q10 turns on to allow Q9 to switch something is still grounded at the PAs. ? If someone here has their open I would like to get a voltage reading off Q9 and the PAs. ? ? Art N2AJO If I am not learning I am not having fun ? ? From: olson339@... <olson339@...>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2022 12:33 PM
To: 'Art Olson' <olson339@...>
Subject: RE: [BITX20] Sbitx finals replacement ? Farhan ? Ok I got my amp meter out rather then look at the one on the power supply Initial power up .603 amps Sbitx operating in receive .0709 Call CQ via FT8 no sudden spike current drops to zero and then after bootup back to .603. ? I am going to try another rpi ¨C not sure it that make a difference. Will let you know ? Art
N2AJO ? ? Farhan The Sbitx draws about 2 amps the shuts down N2AJO? ?Farhan Will check current and get back to you.? Screen doesn¡¯t go weird. It just goes blank.? Yes it reboots as if power is reapplied I have the basic kit - minus lcd and rpi Art ? Art,? 4 questions. can you monitor the current at shutdown? Does the screen go weird before it shuts down?? Does it try rebooting or does it just goes inti a shutdown? Are you using the full kit ? ? On Mon, Aug 15, 2022, 2:23 AM Art N2AJO <olson339@...> wrote: Farhan ? Ok have installed a LM2596 and preadjusted it for 5.4 before I installed it. I still have the same problem with the Sbitx shutdown within 1 or 2 seconds, reboots with the main display screen again.? tT receives great but can¡¯t transmit at all. Not sure what is next top look at. When I first? got it and ran FT8 I got about a 6 to 7 second output and then it shutdown ¨C blown regulator and finals. ? art ? ? I had this problem with fake LM338s. Most of them are simply relabelled LM317 that give up on current peaks. We, unfortunately, wiped the LM338s cleab from Mouser for our own production. The switching regulators that I mentioned in a earlier email work best. - f On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 2:15 AM Art N2AJO <olson339@...> wrote: back again. Replaced the LM338 and the 2-IRFZ24N finals. checked to ensure the final and the LM338 tabs to ensure no ground connectivity and in contact with the heat sink. Measured the DC voltage of the LM388 tab 5,4 volts. Final tabs 13.8 volts. Put it all back together and receive works fine. Tried FT8 and within a second or 2 the rig shuts down and reboots. I also updated the firmware. So any suggestions on what next to check.?
I did order the voltage regulator Farhan suggested awaiting their arrival.
Art
N2AJO
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Re: #sbitx sn 0071 is alive!
#sBitx
Steve, You might want to telnet to port 7000 of the rpi while sbitx is running. This an easter egg yet, I am not sure if I should produce a telnet remote or a web/http based remote facility.? It only shows the console output yet. The source code is at?
Thanks Steve!
Farhan;
You
have created an amazing radio. I love that the radio has the ability
to recompile it's own software. I love that the code is open-source,
so that changes can easily be made to add features, and tailor the
radio to behave exactly the way I want it to.
I've
enabled SSH so that I can remotely log into my radio from a laptop
and do things from the command line, while sitting on my sofa in
another room watching the news. I've installed XRDP so that I can
remotely log into the desktop from my laptop and run the sBitx
software remotely. I haven't gotten sound working via RDP yet; that's
a bit more complex from a linux host. For
now I¡¯m using a bluetooth transmitter plugged into the headphone
jack. The Rpi has bluetooth built-in, but the sbitx app is not set up
to route audio to the BT device. Will have to investigate that
option....
The
sBitx should really appeal to those who are comfortable with
computers, and like to experiment with software vs solder and wire.
This radio has really been a blast - and is also a great way to learn
more about DSP algorithms and linux in general.
73;
Steve, N3SB
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To track down the hum and spurs, I had a trick. I use a spectrum analyzer with its input connected to the DC power line through a 0.1uf capacitor. The important thing is that the RF cable between the Specan and the radio should be connected grounded properly at the radio end with a BNC connector, its ground tab directly soldered to the ground plane. This is an important detail. - f
On Wed, Aug 17, 2022, 5:11 AM JerryP < jponko@...> wrote: Scott,
I think you're probably good to go at this point. Extra bypass filtering on the output never hurts. In the olden days of HAM radio, 60/50Hz hum was the big problem with power HV power supplies.
If your scope has Math functions you could use the FFT math function to look at the 200kHz signal and its harmonics. Otherwise, an AM radio would work to see if there are harmonics being generated around 600kHz- 700kHz and 1000kHz-1750kHz. Just tune across the AM band and see if you pick up something then turn the buck converter off to see if it's the source.
Hi Jerry,
Ok, I see.? That makes sense.? It looks like there is very little real energy in the above 200kHz range (if any).? The only other thing I have tried was a cap on the output.? The larger the output cap, +1000uF, the overall ripple reduces.? I probably need to build a filter for the output and make some tests.? Can't do anything else.? DigiKey is late.
I've only got an oscilloscope to work with and I've not installed the converter in the radio just yet.? I'm not exactly sure how to look for harmonics without an analyzer.? Can you suggest another way to look?
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Thanks again, Scott
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Scott,
I think you're probably good to go at this point. Extra bypass filtering on the output never hurts. In the olden days of HAM radio, 60/50Hz hum was the big problem with power HV power supplies.
If your scope has Math functions you could use the FFT math function to look at the 200kHz signal and its harmonics. Otherwise, an AM radio would work to see if there are harmonics being generated around 600kHz- 700kHz and 1000kHz-1750kHz. Just tune across the AM band and see if you pick up something then turn the buck converter off to see if it's the source.
Hi Jerry,
Ok, I see.? That makes sense.? It looks like there is very little real energy in the above 200kHz range (if any).? The only other thing I have tried was a cap on the output.? The larger the output cap, +1000uF, the overall ripple reduces.? I probably need to build a filter for the output and make some tests.? Can't do anything else.? DigiKey is late.
I've only got an oscilloscope to work with and I've not installed the converter in the radio just yet.? I'm not exactly sure how to look for harmonics without an analyzer.? Can you suggest another way to look?
? ?
Thanks again, Scott
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Re: DAYLIGHT RADIO - PLASTIC TOROID MASTER
David, I did a bit of experimental work on this. The toroids need more than 15 turns or so for the self-shielding to work well. At fewer turns, the shielding though better than that of a conventional inductor, wasn't good enough to be used in a bandpass filter. In the Daylight radio, I had to add shielding between the three sections. - f
Yes, understood.? Just thought I would let it be known that it is
not the core that shields a toroid.? It is inherent in its shape.?
Physics.? :-)
On 8/16/22 9:49 AM, Ashhar Farhan via
wrote:
David,
Shielding is not the issue. Losses are. Lower Q
leads to higher losses. The Q is determined by the material
inside the toroid. Air/Vacuum is the best material with least
losses for an inductor, whether a solenoid or a toroid.
Toriodal inductors are inherently shielded by their
geometry, no matter what the core material is, air, ferrite
or other.
73,
David N1HAC
On 8/15/22 8:24 PM, Ashhar Farhan via
wrote:
David,
The inside of the toroid should be
hollow and it not hollow it should have as little
in-fill as possible. This is the key to high
performance 3D printed toroids. PLA or ABS are lossy
and they can lead to lossy filters.
- f
would not a simple tubing do the same?? .. the
"shielding" of a coil wound on a ferrite core
comes from the core material ... so i guess a
normal pastic tubing will work equally well if not
better (fewer loss cause fewer plastic inside the
coil)
so ... what is the reason to print plastic
toroids??
dg9bfc sigi
Am 15.08.2022 um 23:50 schrieb David R. Hassall
WA5DJJ:
Dear group,
I asked a friend of mine to build a master
toroid stl file that we can put in our 3D
printer software and come up with the plastic
toroids almost any size we want.?? The Master
was built on the basic size of 1 inch in
diameter with a height of 1/2 inch and a
thickness of? 0.2 inches.?? I use the CURA
program to build my 3D printer files and it will
allow me to scale all three axes once the basic
25mm toroid.stl file is loaded into the
software.? It also allows you to print almost
any number of a basic design in one printing.??
Here are some examples that I printed this
morning:
![toroid pic]()
I just used the scaling values of 25%, 50%, 75%
and 100% to get the different sized plastic
toroids pictured above.? So with the master stl
file anyone with a 3D printer should be able to
print almost any size plastic toroid form that
you would need.?? I have attached the master stl
file to this Message and it should enable anyone
with a 3D printer to make the plastic Toroids
that they need for the Daylight Radio Project.
Take care and have fun.
73 Dave WA5DJJ
SUPER QRSS GRABBER
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Re: sBITX waiting for shipping details
Mark, Shipping is included in the price?
Mark,
How much was shipping on that kit?
On August 16, 2022 at 2:23 PM "Mark Earnest via " <mark=[email protected]> wrote:
Partial Kit #77 showed in Pittsburgh in 10 days from shipping notification.?
It was on the air in less than an hour.
This thing is sweet. I haven't replaced the voltage regulator yet but I have a dozen or so of them from Amazon and I'll probably replace the LM338 before trying anything more than 10 watts just to be safe (I want to enjoy this working before I take a soldering iron to it :)
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If that RV had a solar panel on top, that could also be the source of the noise. Solar charge controllers are kinda like a variable switching power supply. Mine? causes interference all the way to 60 Mhz ! They are nasty. I would have thought that when the sun went down the noise would stop, but it doesn't change. I have to completely disconnect the controller to stop the noise.
Max
On Sunday, August 14, 2022, 03:04:00 AM CDT, Alan Cooper <cqw7aln@...> wrote:
my hope is that everyone is aware that there are active ham operational bands at 137khz and at 472khz - 479khz as well as comercial cw stations still using 500khz ?
I have often heard horrendous noise from RV users who have filthy spurs from their switcher power supplies/battery chargers from 100khz clear up through 14mhz!?!!
?but maybe i am the only one who has had these Reciever problems with "switcher" power supplies blanking out the radio.?
if I am out of line for mentioning these types of problems with switchers please ignore me...I am not wanting to cause trouble.
Alan w7aln
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, 6:17 AM Ashhar Farhan < farhanbox@...> wrote: Neils, Many of these switching regulators have a 50 KHz switching frequency. This has images inside the passband of the audio codec. I arrived at LM338 only after experimenting with various switching systems (including building one from discrete components). These new generation of switchers move the frequency to 500 KHz. That's what makes them useful. - f
On Wed, Aug 10, 2022, 6:27 PM John Terrell < N6LN@...> wrote: The smallest ones have a small cheap potentiometer which I would not trust in the long run to maintain a stable output voltage. Some have a secondary means of choosing between four or five fixed voltage levels and bypassing the fickle potentiometer by cutting a pcb trace with a hobby knife. Loupes help. But in any case a buffer capacitor ought to reduce a noisy output p.
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Re: #sbitx sn 0071 is alive!
#sBitx
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Farhan;
You
have created an amazing radio. I love that the radio has the ability
to recompile it's own software. I love that the code is open-source,
so that changes can easily be made to add features, and tailor the
radio to behave exactly the way I want it to.
I've
enabled SSH so that I can remotely log into my radio from a laptop
and do things from the command line, while sitting on my sofa in
another room watching the news. I've installed XRDP so that I can
remotely log into the desktop from my laptop and run the sBitx
software remotely. I haven't gotten sound working via RDP yet; that's
a bit more complex from a linux host. For
now I¡¯m using a bluetooth transmitter plugged into the headphone
jack. The Rpi has bluetooth built-in, but the sbitx app is not set up
to route audio to the BT device. Will have to investigate that
option....
The
sBitx should really appeal to those who are comfortable with
computers, and like to experiment with software vs solder and wire.
This radio has really been a blast - and is also a great way to learn
more about DSP algorithms and linux in general.
73;
Steve, N3SB
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#sbitx sn 0071 is alive!
#sBitx
Farhan;
You
have created an amazing radio. I love that the radio has the ability
to recompile it's own software. I love that the code is open-source,
so that changes can easily be made to add features, and tailor the
radio to behave exactly the way I want it to.
I've
enabled SSH so that I can remotely log into my radio from a laptop
and do things from the command line, while sitting on my sofa in
another room watching the news. I've installed XRDP so that I can
remotely log into the desktop from my laptop and run the sBitx
software remotely. I haven't gotten sound working via RDP yet; that's
a bit more complex from a linux host. For
now I¡¯m using a bluetooth transmitter plugged into the headphone
jack. The Rpi has bluetooth built-in, but the sbitx app is not set up
to route audio to the BT device. Will have to investigate that
option....
The
sBitx should really appeal to those who are comfortable with
computers, and like to experiment with software vs solder and wire.
This radio has really been a blast - and is also a great way to learn
more about DSP algorithms and linux in general.
73;
Steve, N3SB
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Re: Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6
David, this is really, really sad. Your friend is missing out on so many things -- the thrill of learning and developing new skills, the joy of conversing in a new language, not to mention the brain-building and brain-health maintenance that CW provides to its practitioners. And one more loss -- I, for one, will NEVER have a meaningful QSO with him. -- Rich WB2GXM
------ Original message------ From: david todd via Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2022 4:19 PM Cc: Subject:Re: [BITX20] Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6
last point of my opinion, and i apologize if i come across as a hater,but im not. Friend of mine is a no code ham. he learned the basics of the code and uses a decoder to decode the cw. he sends about 20 wpm with his paddle ,which doesnt make sense because he cant copy past 6 wpm with his ears. i proved this with on air copy. doing about 8 to 10 wpm. he said he couldnt copy it even though he sends really fast. he doesnt try to decode the cw in his head since the decoder is doing it for him. I told him if you can send 20wpm you should be able to receive faster than 8. no way. i had 3 other hams verify this. WEIRD,BUT TRUE.He stated"why learn to copy faster when i have my decoder. he uses software to do this on his not knocking him,but i did explain the reasonings of not using one.happy he is trying cw and using it,but the decoder gives him a false sense of accomplishment. he has been using this setup for several years and still cant copy faster than about 6 wpm. WEIRD ISNT IT. My friend is an engineer for 30 years, very very smart, but has been ruined by his decoder. HI HI.3 of us have been working with him with various,various methods, and we even paid for his classes,etc just to be friendly. he went,but the instructor stated "ive never seen anyone who can send 20wpm and not copy by ear at least over 6 wpm. He refuses to try to fill his head with the decode but can send 20 wpm with his paddle. foud out some of his secret. he uses precanned groups of statements. qth,radio,rst,etc. He goes thro the motions and then after his decoder decodes the other hams info he clicks the statements he wants sent next,it also includes the 73,etc. .very canned,very brief, using decoder and software on computer.? is he running cw? yes,but with an analog radio and no goodies attached to it,like a decoder,he is dead in the water without it.Ive praised him over and over for trying CW,but He stated "i can make 1000s of cw contacts and basically not even know CW"The computer and decoder will do it all for me.His words,not so his paddle is basically for looks. he uses computer control to do the sending 99% of the time. please inform the other end u are using one if you cant decode the signals when adjacent qrn,qrm,qsb affects it or you are in a is leads to abrupt endings of qsos. or qsos that really seem robot operated.I ran into this when doing ft8. Someone calling cq forever and not responding to others who respond to their CQ. just my own opinion of it. 73 David ac9xh
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Hi Jerry,
Ok, I see.? That makes sense.? It looks like there is very little real energy in the above 200kHz range (if any).? The only other thing I have tried was a cap on the output.? The larger the output cap, +1000uF, the overall ripple reduces.? I probably need to build a filter for the output and make some tests.? Can't do anything else.? DigiKey is late.
I've only got an oscilloscope to work with and I've not installed the converter in the radio just yet.? I'm not exactly sure how to look for harmonics without an analyzer.? Can you suggest another way to look?
? ?
Thanks again, Scott
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Scott,
The reduction in capacitance was because you really only need to filter out the 350kHz signal. Did you try a filter on the output side of the buck converter? Are you seeing any harmonics in HF range?
Hi Jerry,
Right.? The choke is in series with the converter module input.? The cap is after the choke connected input to ground of the converter.? I made the swap to 10uF but I don't see a significant change?.? Curious: Why the reduction in capacitance?? It seems to me that reducing the frequency range of the DC bus (via 1000uF cap) develops a better condition for the buck regulator to operate.? If I understand these buck converters right, the choke of the converter is charged and then discharged into the output when the charger FET is turned off.? The result is a pulsing DC? ?
To be clear, the waveforms I've been sending are of the converter output, zoomed into the the ripple only of the 5.3xx vdc output.? In general, the frequency of the ripple is above 200KHz with a p-p magnitude of about 50mV.? That's about 1% DC regulation at a pretty high frequency.? It seems to me that if the noise is above the audible range that the audio amplifier(s) may boost it but it will never get heard.? Or is it a desired condition to drive the noise frequency to a specific range?
I'm a long time UPS guy.? I have good knowledge of rectifiers, inverters, solid state switch schemes and battery technology but DC use in an audio to RF environment is still new to me.??
I do appreciate your thoughts.
Thanks again, Scott
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