Re: No RF power CW, digital but OK SSB
#sBitx
Looked at the reported transmit signals in the spectrum. Here is CW sending dots, same current draw as SSB PTT with no audio input, no RF output power seen  Next LSB with low audio, also no RF output power  Finally LSB with louder audio, seeing some RF out  I don't know what the units are on the display but it looks like it needs a higher input level than it's getting to drive any RF. The operating manual says:
"?Increase the MIC setting until you are covering 6 horizonal divisions (see the picture below). This is standard setting for the modulation.", but the CW signal appears to only cover 4. [and no pic]
-- ? 73 ??? Bob? KD8CGH
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Re: Does anyone have the KD8CEC 5 inch nextion files?
John
Not hearing that whine. (But perhaps that is a statement about the state of my hearing¡) Overhauling my other 5in tomorrow and will listen again.?
73
Mark
AJ6CU
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Ashar posted the PTO stl file in message #93855.
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I am so sorry about the snafu. I will get all the files checked once again. - f
On Mon, Aug 8, 2022, 3:27 AM David R. Hassall WA5DJJ < dhassall@...> wrote:
Dear group,
I printed out the .stl file that was on the website but it was
different that the one shown in the pictures.?
The .stl file that was on the website doesn't have the bolt down
base on it.?? So that makes it very difficult
to install on the PC board.? Does anyone have the .stl files for
the one with the base?
here is what the one I printed look like:
Take care and have fun.
73 Dave WA5DJJ
SUPER GRABBER
--
73 Dave WA5DJJ
SUPER GRABBER
WEBSITE:
EMAIL: dhassall@...
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Re: sBitx antenna-first warning
Luca,
good info for the ones who need info on swr meters.
unfortunately there are some who ignore these basic tips,? they ignore this basic tool just like the field strength meter. Then they wind up burning their rigs up due to highly mismatched impedances. and the lack of understanding.
I use a field strength meter with all my transceivers. I have several,which range from simple to exotic. exotic meaning i have the meter in the shack,and the sensing unit in the yard. Actually 3 of them and i can tell if my antenna i built at the time is either efficient or not. Ive seen 1:1 swr but crappy field strength readings because of the "tuner"
Really is no reason for burning up radios even in these technologically advanced scenarios.
I get the banannas saved up i will be buying one of Ashhars new sbitxs. For now, im going to order another ubitx.
LOVE THESE RADIOS!!!!!!!!!!!!.
73
David
ac9xh
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Re: sBitx antenna-first warning
I also remember, that noobies like myself back in the day,ran both tube and solid state equipment. If i remember, 50 ohms was predominantly a VHF issue. Might be wrong.Even on a solid state transceiver, i never had a commercial transmatch or "tuner".?? we all used the simple swr meter,volt meters and ammeters ,light bulbs and neon bulbs,or homebrewd match or used other tricks? like a homebrewed field strength meter to prove our antennas were up to snuff., . I remember climbing? the ladder to the pulley where my inverted vee was mounted,lowing it,cutting off about a 1/4" to 1/2" at a time on each side.,. one ham i knew used flurecent light bulbs also. kind of a field strength meter.And this was with solid state rigs .Most of his station was homebrewed.
Long way away from instant gratification on a meter that might not be telling you the whole story. old technology it might be but its still applicable today.Dont trust your meter. double verify.With the money we spend on our equipment these days we have to.Use what was taught in the license classes and from your elmers.
Also, big point, whe you are pre matching your rig before transmit, the noise level will decrease and the signals will get clearer and louder. peak on those,and then try to get an swr reading. Also it would behoove alot to use a field stength meter also. it gives you the informaion that tells you wheter or not your system is efficient.
73
david
ac9xh
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Re: sBitx antenna-first warning
I used to use an ammeter and a neon bulb. tune to max on both. Also,It helps to cut the antenna to band resonance.
I have several antennas ,one for each band i run, also i use a homebrew vertical 3 ft above ground with no radials and this one is the one i use? from 80 to 6 meters. i actually have to use my homebrew match for it.
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All my antennas have been cut for band resonance, i dont use a commercial match except for my ubitx v6 which i installed inside of it.. For my other ubitxs and bitxsi use a homebrew match using 15 turns of #22 gauge wire with a 100 pf variable? to help match to the antenna and a $5 dollar swr meter inline. Ive used this setup for all my radios, and including ubitx v3,v6,bitx40, patcomm pc 500, argonaut 509,.
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Sometimes, if your antenna is crappy or not designed properly, or have feedline problems etc ,you can"tune" the "antenna tuner and receive almost a 1:1 and never get out very well because of the false sense of security with an antenna tuner. I dont like the term tuner We all use, because you are not tuning the antenna,but just creating a compatible match from radio to cable.
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You might check your coax,fittings and antenna connections. With an open circuit(break in the coax at the fitting or antenna)you will take awhile to get any match impedance wise. If you have an auto antenna match, and it starts clicking for over 6 to 14 seconds, more than likely an open somewhere or a really big problem with your antenna, .I personally experienced this with the ldg z100. had a cable break right at the fitting.
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Just my personal take of it all. And i have never popped a final on any of my ubitxs or bitxs.
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Dear Group,
Does anybody have the .stl file for the plastic toroids for the DAYLIGHT RADIO who would be willing to share?
Also, What type of filament was used for the toroids?? Is PLA good enough or is it something more exotic?
In the Daylight radio online description and building notes.? The Trifilar transformers and not described as to core
and number of turns.? I suspect that they are the same as the ones in the uBITX but just checking to be sure.
Take care and have fun,
73 Dave WA5DJJ
SUPER GRABBER
WEBSITE:
EMAIL: dhassall@...
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Re: sBitx antenna-first warning
Hi I realized a swr Meter very effettive.? I posted this video to show how It works 73 de iz0fyl Luca
<A better solution would be to have a power sniffer that will reduce the power when it exceeds the upper limit and increase it back as the swr improves.>
Yes, my old Yaesu FT897D has that : "Hi SWR" lights on with SWR>3:1 and the power is reduced...
73 - Pierre - FK8IH
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Re: sBitx antenna-first warning
<A better solution would be to have a power sniffer that will reduce the power when it exceeds the upper limit and increase it back as the swr improves.>
Yes, my old Yaesu FT897D has that : "Hi SWR" lights on with SWR>3:1 and the power is reduced...
73 - Pierre - FK8IH
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Dear group,
I printed out the .stl file that was on the website but it was
different that the one shown in the pictures.?
The .stl file that was on the website doesn't have the bolt down
base on it.?? So that makes it very difficult
to install on the PC board.? Does anyone have the .stl files for
the one with the base?
here is what the one I printed look like:
Take care and have fun.
73 Dave WA5DJJ
SUPER GRABBER
--
73 Dave WA5DJJ
SUPER GRABBER
WEBSITE:
EMAIL: dhassall@...
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Hi Ashhar,
I think you never sleep.? I appreciate your dedication to the project but man, you've got to rest.
This is from the github from the JS8Call site:?
My guess is you already have this.
Cheers, Scott
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LOL.? You're right.? I should probably get out of the habit of doing a sudo bash first thing when I bring up a terminal....
..and, maybe again? ;)
should probably start with a 'sudo'; i.e.:? sudo chown pi:pi
/home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
(and type in the user's (pi) password if prompted)
...even though the file is in the user's directory (and the user
has full permissions there), they lack sufficient privilege to
alter the file ownership away from root
On 8/7/22 10:24, Anthony Good wrote:
Well, I screwed that up. ?:-D ? ?I meant:
chown pi:pi
/home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
Hi Ashhar,
I figured out the user_settings.ini file
issue; the file was owned by root.? Thanks!
For future reference for others, do a:
chown root:root
/home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
Unrelated question: I'm thinking of doing
some pull requests for contributing some functionality
for your consideration.? I have in mind customization
settings for the user interface (colors, etc.).? Also
thinking of a customization for the frequencies on the
waterfall.? Would you like to have customization
settings appended to user_settings.ini, or perhaps
elsewhere?? I can see this file growing very large.
73
Goody
K3NG
On Sat, Aug 6, 2022
at 7:59 PM Ashhar Farhan < farhanbox@...>
wrote:
Goody,
It looks like there are
a lot of space characters being generated by
the attached keyboard. Can you remove the
keyboard and check?
You might want to delete user_settings.ini, git
pull again to get a fresh user_settings.ini.
just before you do that, email me your
user_settings.ini file. I am implementing a
telnet server to accept all the commands and
return the output text seen on the console
window. Coming soon...
The minimize button should ideally show the rpi
icon, to "return to raspberry pi". Let me figure
it out.
I will check about the
cwdelay at my end and report?back.
Do send me your
user_settings.ini. check if the file permissions
are normal (read/write enabled for user pi).?
- f
Greetings,
A few initial observations:
1) Several times I¡¯ve gotten the rig into a
weird state where CW sending from the
keyboard just cycles in and out of transmit
and receive, and the only way to get out of
the cycling is exiting the app.? Attempts to
transmit with the key put the rig in TX, but
no RF out.? I¡¯ve haven¡¯t attempted QSOs yet,
I just have a 40 meter antenna connected?
with the power down to 1 watt.? Once the rig
gets into this weird state, the only way I
can get it out of it is sometimes by
switching bands, but usually I have to do a
full OS shutdown and power reset.? I¡¯m still
gathering data points.
2) I noticed my sbitx doesn¡¯t write to the
data/user_settings.ini file.? No big deal
right now, I edit it with vi.
3) I was seeing a lot of errors with a Dell
keyboard connected up.? Often the rig would
display a send a U instead of a V.? I
connected up an Apple keyboard and I¡¯m not
noticing the errors.
4) CW T/R time is quite long.? I see a
cw_delay=1000 setting.? I attempted to
change this to 500, but the problem above
(#1) is getting in the way of me testing
this.
5) The OFF button might better be labeled
EXIT, and CLOSE is more like a ¡°minimize¡±
button (perhaps a down arrow, like what is
used in the Pi GUI would be more
appropriate?? (Perhaps have it that button
label can be customized in
user_settings.ini?)
6) I¡¯m definitely getting the Wi-Fi noise
into the audio.? I¡¯ve turned off Wi-Fi and
I¡¯m using wired Ethernet for now, with no
noise issues.
7) Any way to send sbitx \ commands to the
app via the operating system (i.e. command
line)?
8) It appears \ commands are case
sensitive.? Perhaps accepting CAPS for
commands might avoid user issues?
9) Any chance for a wide AM detector?? Maybe
this is some code I could develop once I get
my bearings¡.
Overall, I¡¯m really excited about this rig.?
Lots of potential.
73
Goody
K3NG
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..and, maybe again? ;)
should probably start with a 'sudo'; i.e.:? sudo chown pi:pi
/home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
(and type in the user's (pi) password if prompted)
...even though the file is in the user's directory (and the user
has full permissions there), they lack sufficient privilege to
alter the file ownership away from root
On 8/7/22 10:24, Anthony Good wrote:
toggle quoted message
Show quoted text
Well, I screwed that up. ?:-D ? ?I meant:
chown pi:pi
/home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
Hi Ashhar,
I figured out the user_settings.ini file
issue; the file was owned by root. ?Thanks!
For future reference for others, do a:
chown root:root
/home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
Unrelated question: I'm thinking of doing
some pull requests for contributing some functionality
for your consideration.? I have in mind customization
settings for the user interface (colors, etc.). ?Also
thinking of a customization for the frequencies on the
waterfall. ?Would you like to have customization
settings appended to user_settings.ini, or perhaps
elsewhere? ?I can see this file growing very large.
73
Goody
K3NG
On Sat, Aug 6, 2022
at 7:59 PM Ashhar Farhan < farhanbox@...>
wrote:
Goody,
It looks like there are
a lot of space characters being generated by
the attached keyboard. Can you remove the
keyboard and check?
You might want to delete user_settings.ini, git
pull again to get a fresh user_settings.ini.
just before you do that, email me your
user_settings.ini file. I am implementing a
telnet server to accept all the commands and
return the output text seen on the console
window. Coming soon...
The minimize button should ideally show the rpi
icon, to "return to raspberry pi". Let me figure
it out.
I will check about the
cwdelay at my end and report?back.
Do send me your
user_settings.ini. check if the file permissions
are normal (read/write enabled for user pi).?
- f
Greetings,
A few initial observations:
1) Several times I¡¯ve gotten the rig into a
weird state where CW sending from the
keyboard just cycles in and out of transmit
and receive, and the only way to get out of
the cycling is exiting the app.? Attempts to
transmit with the key put the rig in TX, but
no RF out.? I¡¯ve haven¡¯t attempted QSOs yet,
I just have a 40 meter antenna connected?
with the power down to 1 watt.? Once the rig
gets into this weird state, the only way I
can get it out of it is sometimes by
switching bands, but usually I have to do a
full OS shutdown and power reset.? I¡¯m still
gathering data points.
2) I noticed my sbitx doesn¡¯t write to the
data/user_settings.ini file.? No big deal
right now, I edit it with vi.
3) I was seeing a lot of errors with a Dell
keyboard connected up.? Often the rig would
display a send a U instead of a V.? I
connected up an Apple keyboard and I¡¯m not
noticing the errors.
4) CW T/R time is quite long.? I see a
cw_delay=1000 setting.? I attempted to
change this to 500, but the problem above
(#1) is getting in the way of me testing
this.
5) The OFF button might better be labeled
EXIT, and CLOSE is more like a ¡°minimize¡±
button (perhaps a down arrow, like what is
used in the Pi GUI would be more
appropriate?? (Perhaps have it that button
label can be customized in
user_settings.ini?)
6) I¡¯m definitely getting the Wi-Fi noise
into the audio.? I¡¯ve turned off Wi-Fi and
I¡¯m using wired Ethernet for now, with no
noise issues.
7) Any way to send sbitx \ commands to the
app via the operating system (i.e. command
line)?
8) It appears \ commands are case
sensitive.? Perhaps accepting CAPS for
commands might avoid user issues?
9) Any chance for a wide AM detector?? Maybe
this is some code I could develop once I get
my bearings¡.
Overall, I¡¯m really excited about this rig.?
Lots of potential.
73
Goody
K3NG
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I will do it later tonight.
The wiki in GitHub might be a good place for tips like this, if Ashhar wanted to activate the wiki...
On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 10:58 AM Bob Benedict, KD8CGH < rkayakr@...> wrote: I found the display way too bright. You can reduce it by the command:
sudo sh -c "echo nnn > /sys/class/backlight/rpi_backlight/brightness"
where nnn is a number from 1 to 255. I set mine down to 80, which is much better for my eyes and reduced power draw from 1.2 A to .9 A.
Please consider adding other handy tips to this thread.
--
? 73
??? Bob? KD8CGH
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Re: Postman came with a box from hfsignals
By some odd?coincidence, I started receiving DHL Phishing emails right after I ordered.? I haven't received any other confirmation, either, but after getting all of these fake tracking alerts, I emailed HFsignals and was told my order would ship in a couple of days.? Still waiting, but I have no time to devote to it at the moment anyway.
-- Neil Goldstein
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The wiki in GitHub might be a good place for tips like this, if Ashhar wanted to activate the wiki...
On Sun, Aug 7, 2022 at 10:58 AM Bob Benedict, KD8CGH < rkayakr@...> wrote: I found the display way too bright. You can reduce it by the command:
sudo sh -c "echo nnn > /sys/class/backlight/rpi_backlight/brightness"
where nnn is a number from 1 to 255. I set mine down to 80, which is much better for my eyes and reduced power draw from 1.2 A to .9 A.
Please consider adding other handy tips to this thread.
--
? 73
??? Bob? KD8CGH
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I found the display way too bright. You can reduce it by the command:
sudo sh -c "echo nnn > /sys/class/backlight/rpi_backlight/brightness"
where nnn is a number from 1 to 255. I set mine down to 80, which is much better for my eyes and reduced power draw from 1.2 A to .9 A.
Please consider adding other handy tips to this thread.
--
? 73
??? Bob? KD8CGH
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The groups.I'm bitx20 group has over 7,000 members, and the group currently covers several different HFSIGNALS products/designs. If a second groups.io were created I'd join it (I have an sBitx on order), so the qty of mail I'd receive from both groups wouldn't change.
The current members of bitx20 likely fall into one of three groups: A) No interest in sBitx at all B) Mild interest in sBitx (potential future customer or just curious) C) Own/have on order an sBitx
I suspect group A's desire to ignore threads related to sBitx could be managed by list members getting in the habit of including hashtags in the subject if radio-specific posts, be it #bitx20, #bitx40, #ubitx, or #sbutx. It will never be perfect, but if many/most do this individual list members can trim the number of emails they see.
I suspect hfsignals is really only interested in having all comms in one group.
Just a thought, Ken, N2VIP
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On Aug 7, 2022, at 08:18, Bill <groups191227@...> wrote:
? If cost is a concern, reliable mailing lists can be had for $3.40/month for 1000 users from mailmanlists.net.? I've used them for years and found them very reliable and responsive.? Doesn't have all the bells and whistles of groups.io, but then they mostly aren't used anyway.
?- Bill? N3AJ
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I was wondering what the earlier mail about chown root:root would do! I think that we can read the ui layout from another text file, lets say called layout.ini. Each section of the file layouts out one control.? Upon loading, it can relocate and resize the layout. All the stuff like fonts and colours are in tables that can be re-read. It will be fun to have this. One could have differenr layouts for different modes. - f
Well, I screwed that up. ?:-D ? ?I meant:
chown pi:pi /home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
Hi Ashhar,
I figured out the user_settings.ini file issue; the file was owned by root.? Thanks!
For future reference for others, do a:
chown root:root /home/pi/sbitx/data/user_settings.ini
Unrelated question: I'm thinking of doing some pull requests for contributing some functionality for your consideration.? I have in mind customization settings for the user interface (colors, etc.).? Also thinking of a customization for the frequencies on the waterfall.? Would you like to have customization settings appended to user_settings.ini, or perhaps elsewhere?? I can see this file growing very large.
73 Goody K3NG On Sat, Aug 6, 2022 at 7:59 PM Ashhar Farhan < farhanbox@...> wrote: Goody, It looks like there are a lot of space characters being generated by the attached keyboard. Can you remove the keyboard and check? You might want to delete user_settings.ini, git pull again to get a fresh user_settings.ini. just before you do that, email me your user_settings.ini file. I am implementing a telnet server to accept all the commands and return the output text seen on the console window. Coming soon...
The minimize button should ideally show the rpi icon, to "return to raspberry pi". Let me figure it out. I will check about the cwdelay at my end and report?back. Do send me your user_settings.ini. check if the file permissions are normal (read/write enabled for user pi).? - f Greetings,
A few initial observations:
1) Several times I¡¯ve gotten the rig into a weird state where CW sending from the keyboard just cycles in and out of transmit and receive, and the only way to get out of the cycling is exiting the app.? Attempts to transmit with the key put the rig in TX, but no RF out.? I¡¯ve haven¡¯t attempted QSOs yet, I just have a 40 meter antenna connected? with the power down to 1 watt.? Once the rig gets into this weird state, the only way I can get it out of it is sometimes by switching bands, but usually I have to do a full OS shutdown and power reset.? I¡¯m still gathering data points.
2) I noticed my sbitx doesn¡¯t write to the data/user_settings.ini file.? No big deal right now, I edit it with vi.
3) I was seeing a lot of errors with a Dell keyboard connected up.? Often the rig would display a send a U instead of a V.? I connected up an Apple keyboard and I¡¯m not noticing the errors.
4) CW T/R time is quite long.? I see a cw_delay=1000 setting.? I attempted to change this to 500, but the problem above (#1) is getting in the way of me testing this.
5) The OFF button might better be labeled EXIT, and CLOSE is more like a ¡°minimize¡± button (perhaps a down arrow, like what is used in the Pi GUI would be more appropriate?? (Perhaps have it that button label can be customized in user_settings.ini?)
6) I¡¯m definitely getting the Wi-Fi noise into the audio.? I¡¯ve turned off Wi-Fi and I¡¯m using wired Ethernet for now, with no noise issues.
7) Any way to send sbitx \ commands to the app via the operating system (i.e. command line)?
8) It appears \ commands are case sensitive.? Perhaps accepting CAPS for commands might avoid user issues?
9) Any chance for a wide AM detector?? Maybe this is some code I could develop once I get my bearings¡.
Overall, I¡¯m really excited about this rig.? Lots of potential.
73
Goody
K3NG
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Bob Benedict, KD8CGH
Craig Wadsworth
Luca
Neil Goldstein