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Re: uBitx V6, no reception. #v6 #ubitx6-help

 

Hi Farhan,

As there is no strong AM station in Kolkata, I cannot attempt the calibration procedure. I have a 20 MHZ TCXO +-2.5ppm. Can I use that to do the calibration ? If yes, what sideband mode should be used during calibration USB or LSB. As i have seen during calibration you kept the uBitx into LSB mode.

Thanks
Ashok VU3KFK


Re: uBitx V6, no reception. #v6 #ubitx6-help

 

I measured the frequency in 3 clock output. Results below, the accuracy of measurement may be off by a few KHZ? due to low quality counter. There are 4 sets of measurement.

SET1 (A=3000 KHZ LSB)
CLK0=11056 KHZ
CLK1=33945 KHZ
CLK2=48086 KHZ

SET2 (A=30000 KHZ LSB)
CLK0=11056 KHZ
CLK1=33946 KHZ
CLK2=75016 KHZ

SET3 (A=3000 KHZ USB)
CLK0=11056 KHZ
CLK1=56122 KHZ
CLK2=48085 KHZ

SET4(A=30000 KHZ USB)
CLK0=11056 KHZ
CLK1=56120 KHZ
CLK2=75016 KHZ

The CLK1 line in block diagram says 33MHZ USB and 57MHZ LSB but my results are opposite. Moreover instead of 57 MHZ, my measurement shows 56 MHZ. Also the CLOCK2 should tune from 45 to 75 MHZ but in my measurement it is from 48 to 75 MHZ.

Your comments please.


Re: Sbitx manual

 

Thank you for the explanation...?


On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 6:55 PM Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
Paul,

The sbitx is not a simple rig, it is minimally designed. It has an in-channel dynamic range of 80 db. That means, it needs more than 16 bits of adc resolution. The wm8731 has 24 bit resolution at 96000 samples per second. The effect is dramatic.?
You only have to listen to the rig to know the difference.
It looks simple as the circuit is smaller than even the bitx40. But a closer look reveals changes. The front has no early amplification at all and the passive KISS mixer directly feeds a crystal filter at 40 MHz. At 40 MHz, there is 6 pole filter that has 70 db rejection of the opposite sideband, the IF amplifier has +30 dbm intercept. The audio amplifier (it should actually be called the second IF as the signal is centered around 24 KHz) was especially designed for rigs like this by W7ZOI to exhibit strong in-channel dynamic range.
The radio is a balance of minimalism vs function.
- f

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 11:26 PM AA9GG <paul.aa9gg@...> wrote:
Curious why you went with the wm8731 codec? I've never used one. What is its claim to fame? That thing looks pretty crazy to me for use in a simple rig.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 9:25 AM Don--AE4DW <AE4DW.Don@...> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 1, 2022 at 08:19 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
Scott,
We will still be giving out the basic kit at a much lower price (about the same as the ubitx).
The main board is almost twice the size of ubitx. We had to use much more costlier transmit filter components, large heatsinks to larger T50-6 toroids and 250v, RF grade capacitors. This is a 40 watt radio.
We are more than happy if we can cover costs. Unfortunately the timing got us on the wrong side.
But here is the upside. There is nothing in the design that is unobtainable even in these days of shortage. The circuit is all discrete and easily put together from your junk boxes. Substitutions are easy too. The only critical thing is that you must use a raspberry pi and a wm8731 codec (still available as a board from mikro for 20 dollars). You can still scratch build it yourself, at least a QRP version for less than $100 dollars (if you already have a raspberry pi). It works equally well with a regular hdmi display.?
It is a bit of an effort, but someone can take a stab at porting the code to a PC too.?
?
So the basic kit availability is further down the line? Only the full kit available initially?



--
Paul Mateer, AA9GG
Elan Engineering Corp.




--
Paul Mateer, AA9GG
Elan Engineering Corp.



Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

Ulf,
You need to load the KD8CEC v1.20 software into the original Nano of the Raaduinno for the PC-based Memory Manager to be able to read the EEPROM for the calibration data.? Loading the KD8CEC Nano program will not erase the calibration data in EEPROM.? You can return to the stock software by downloading the Nano file from GitHub.

Returning to the stock firmware requires using the Arduino IDE as there is no hex file.? There are good instructions here:



I should have first asked if you are sure you have the correct KD8CEC software loaded into the Nano?? ?I will assume that you are using XLoader and have loaded the?UBITXV5_CEC_V1.200_NX.hex from the UBITXV5 folder.

Even if the calibration is at the default values, you should still be able to set the BFO and then calibrate the frequency, with the last step being readjusting the BFO for the best signal,?

You can use the following with the KD8CEC software and Nextion display:

The difference is how you set the values using the KD8CEC settings menus.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

Ulf Westman
 

Hi,
I can¡¯t connect to original Arduino using KD8CEC MM, alwayd getting ¡±Error Receive Length¡±, wichever speed I am using¡­


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

Gary,

Thank you.? I will read up on the process.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

I did a write up on changing the bootloader for more available EEPROM space on a Nano.
/g/BITX20/message/85002
using the Arduino as an ISP.

The ArdunioISP code is directly from the sketchbook examples and there is documentation in that sketch.
some documentation in my write up, and a bunch of pictorial write-ups on line.

When I originally used a genuine Uno R3 as the programmer I didn't need a capacitor on RST.
The Nano (clone) I have set-up currently does require that cap.?

With AVRdude and the ArduinoISP, you can dump and load EEPROM, Flash and fuse.? So you can back-up and restore.
I gave some examples, just not examples for everything.? i.e. example on how to dump flash but not load it.
... figured a person could read AVRdude documentation.

Be very cautious on changing fuse settings.? You can brick the Nano where it can't be restored via ICSP.
(it can be restored, but you need a parallel programmer)
You don't need to change the fuses when just dumping or loading EEPROM or flash.

Using the programmer to dump EEPROM may not be the easiest path, but a generic path none the less.

Rgds,
Gary





Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

Gary,

Thank you for the method.? Do you have a link or other data on how to set up the ISP Nano, and the connection to the target Nano?

Thank you.
73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: uBitx V6, no reception. #v6 #ubitx6-help

 

Did you try aligning the ubitx? It is possible that the settings are way off.


On Mon, Jul 4, 2022, 4:59 PM Raj vu2zap <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote:
Ashok,

Check is all three Raduino clock signals are working. I suspect not.

You will need some instrument that can count or scope 100 MHz.

Good Luck,

Raj vu2zap

On 04/07/2022 4:38 PM, VU3KFK wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think finally I have found that my uBitx is unable to receive in 7
> MHZ band. And other bands also poor reception. After few days checking
> for 40m band reception, i was unable to receive anything, even in the
> HF nets that conduct in my area, I cannot hear anyone. My antenna is
> EFHW and SWR is below 1.5.
>
> To check the problem, this is what I did.
>
> I have a crystal oscillator for testing crystals. I took that
> oscillator and installed a 7.023MHz crystal on it and turned it on.
> O/P connected to frequency counter to be sure the oscillator is
> running. Attached a 1 m long wire to uBitx antenna port and placed the
> end of that wire very close to the crystal oscillator. In this
> situation I am supposed to receive 7.023 as a CW signal and also in
> LSB i should be able to hear it if all is OK. uBitx keep on generating
> white noise as it always, not even slight change in noise pitch. Looks
> like uBitx cannot hear anything. Where should I begin troubleshooting ?






Re: uBitx V6, no reception. #v6 #ubitx6-help

 

Ashok,

Check is all three Raduino clock signals are working. I suspect not.

You will need some instrument that can count or scope 100 MHz.

Good Luck,

Raj vu2zap

On 04/07/2022 4:38 PM, VU3KFK wrote:
Hi all,

I think finally I have found that my uBitx is unable to receive in 7 MHZ band. And other bands also poor reception. After few days checking for 40m band reception, i was unable to receive anything, even in the HF nets that conduct in my area, I cannot hear anyone. My antenna is EFHW and SWR is below 1.5.

To check the problem, this is what I did.

I have a crystal oscillator for testing crystals. I took that oscillator and installed a 7.023MHz crystal on it and turned it on. O/P connected to frequency counter to be sure the oscillator is running. Attached a 1 m long wire to uBitx antenna port and placed the end of that wire very close to the crystal oscillator. In this situation I am supposed to receive 7.023 as a CW signal and also in LSB i should be able to hear it if all is OK. uBitx keep on generating white noise as it always, not even slight change in noise pitch. Looks like uBitx cannot hear anything. Where should I begin troubleshooting ?


uBitx V6, no reception. #v6 #ubitx6-help

 

Hi all,

I think finally I have found that my uBitx is unable to receive in 7 MHZ band. And other bands also poor reception. After few days checking for 40m band reception, i was unable to receive anything, even in the HF nets that conduct in my area, I cannot hear anyone. My antenna is EFHW and SWR is below 1.5.

To check the problem, this is what I did.

I have a crystal oscillator for testing crystals. I took that oscillator and installed a 7.023MHz crystal on it and turned it on. O/P connected to frequency counter to be sure the oscillator is running. Attached a 1 m long wire to uBitx antenna port and placed the end of that wire very close to the crystal oscillator. In this situation I am supposed to receive 7.023 as a CW signal and also in LSB i should be able to hear it if all is OK. uBitx keep on generating white noise as it always, not even slight change in noise pitch. Looks like uBitx cannot hear anything. Where should I begin troubleshooting ?


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

Gary,
?
What you say is interesting
In fact I would like to know if it is possible to reinitialise a Nano completely (Return it to the factory state)
He has to "fill up" with tests of versions?
So, is there a solution by its Usb socket?
Cdt


Re: Sbitx manual

 

Rich,
I would recommend rpi 4. Memory isnt an issue as very little is used otherwise. My own development machine as well as the production runs are all raspberry pi 4 with 2gb ram.
At present, it is the background apps like fldigi that take up most of the CPU cycles.?
- f

On Mon, Jul 4, 2022, 12:07 AM wb2gxm@... <wb2gxm@...> wrote:
Looking amazing, Ashhar!! Now for MY question: which versions of Raspberry Pi will work with the Sbitx? I've bought a couple of them, intending to use them in other as yet unstarted projects, easily outclassed by the Sbitx. Hopefully one can be used!! -- Rich WB2GXM

------ Original message------
From: Ashhar Farhan
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2022 8:19 PM
Cc:
Subject:Re: [BITX20] Sbitx manual

Scott,
We will still be giving out the basic kit at a much lower price (about the same as the ubitx).
The main board is almost twice the size of ubitx. We had to use much more costlier transmit filter components, large heatsinks to larger T50-6 toroids and 250v, RF grade capacitors. This is a 40 watt radio.
We are more than happy if we can cover costs. Unfortunately the timing got us on the wrong side.
But here is the upside. There is nothing in the design that is unobtainable even in these days of shortage. The circuit is all discrete and easily put together from your junk boxes. Substitutions are easy too. The only critical thing is that you must use a raspberry pi and a wm8731 codec (still available as a board from mikro for 20 dollars). You can still scratch build it yourself, at least a QRP version for less than $100 dollars (if you already have a raspberry pi). It works equally well with a regular hdmi display.?
It is a bit of an effort, but someone can take a stab at porting the code to a PC too.?
- f
- f

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 1:03 AM Scott KE8KYP <scott_massey@...> wrote:
Hi Ashhar,

I too have been anxiously waiting for the sBitx.? I am a bit disappointed that the cost has creeped up but I do understand the problems.? You have to make money.

I assume that the $500 kit is for everything which I may end up buying but I was seriously considering a customized case and maybe a larger screen.? When I bought the uBitx V6, I bought the Full kit but I almost ordered the Basic kit.? Is that the marketing idea you are considering?? Are there other packages without a display and/or Pi as options?

Looking for to it.

Thanks, Scott?


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

There are other ways.
Use a programmer to dump the EEPROM from the original Arduino and write that image to a new Arduino.?
I have a Nano set up as an "Arduino as ISP" programmer.


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

 

Ulm,

You can load the KD8CEC firmware, use KD8CMC Memory Manager to read the calibration values and save them to a file. Then reload the original firmware.?

that is the only way to savdd we the original calibration.?

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: uBTIX no signal or reception

Ulf Westman
 

Hi, I just replaced the (new one) Arduino with the original Arduino and screen, and then I got better reception. Is there any way to export calibration data from original Arduino and the enter it in the new Arduino? (Without changing SW in the old one)

73 de sm0try


Re: Sbitx manual

 

Looking amazing, Ashhar!! Now for MY question: which versions of Raspberry Pi will work with the Sbitx? I've bought a couple of them, intending to use them in other as yet unstarted projects, easily outclassed by the Sbitx. Hopefully one can be used!! -- Rich WB2GXM

------ Original message------
From: Ashhar Farhan
Date: Fri, Jul 1, 2022 8:19 PM
Cc:
Subject:Re: [BITX20] Sbitx manual

Scott,
We will still be giving out the basic kit at a much lower price (about the same as the ubitx).
The main board is almost twice the size of ubitx. We had to use much more costlier transmit filter components, large heatsinks to larger T50-6 toroids and 250v, RF grade capacitors. This is a 40 watt radio.
We are more than happy if we can cover costs. Unfortunately the timing got us on the wrong side.
But here is the upside. There is nothing in the design that is unobtainable even in these days of shortage. The circuit is all discrete and easily put together from your junk boxes. Substitutions are easy too. The only critical thing is that you must use a raspberry pi and a wm8731 codec (still available as a board from mikro for 20 dollars). You can still scratch build it yourself, at least a QRP version for less than $100 dollars (if you already have a raspberry pi). It works equally well with a regular hdmi display.?
It is a bit of an effort, but someone can take a stab at porting the code to a PC too.?
- f
- f

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, 1:03 AM Scott KE8KYP <scott_massey@...> wrote:
Hi Ashhar,

I too have been anxiously waiting for the sBitx.? I am a bit disappointed that the cost has creeped up but I do understand the problems.? You have to make money.

I assume that the $500 kit is for everything which I may end up buying but I was seriously considering a customized case and maybe a larger screen.? When I bought the uBitx V6, I bought the Full kit but I almost ordered the Basic kit.? Is that the marketing idea you are considering?? Are there other packages without a display and/or Pi as options?

Looking for to it.

Thanks, Scott?


Re: Ver 4 ubitx raduino question

 

Thanks all! I just pulled out the old board and couldn¡¯t remember how this worked. It¡¯s been a few years.
-John


Re: Ver 4 ubitx raduino question

 

Hi John,

As Gary stated the stock software does not have a tuning step size adjustment.? The KD8CEC firmware does, and it is free.? The CEC firmware works with the Nextion screen as well as the stock screen and a number of others.

Here is the link to the GitHub repository:

Be sure to select the correct file to use Xloader with the hex file, or to set the correct values in the ubitx.h file.

I would recommend XLoader if you are not familiar with the Arduino IDE:


73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Elekitsorparts uBitx Digi-Interface

 

This may be the same board.

¡±Funtronics uBitx digi interface installation in V6¡±

/g/BITX20/topic/funtronics_ubitx_digi/73254403?20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,0,73254403