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Re: uBitx as IF rig for transverter

 

John, realizing it¡¯s not quite what you are asking for you might take a look at the Transverter-Store attenuator board.? It¡¯s got on board in/out switching and is only 20 bucks shipped.? I went that way rather than modifying the uBITX.

73 Scott Ka9p

On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 11:13 AM John Kemker <kemkerj3@...> wrote:
Ordering a uBitx v6 Thursday to use as a transverter rig for a transverter that needs between 1 mW to 750 mW input on 10m.? Anybody have any suggestions on how to mod the uBitx to limit output to around 500 mW?

73 de W5NNH


uBitx as IF rig for transverter

John Kemker
 

Ordering a uBitx v6 Thursday to use as a transverter rig for a transverter that needs between 1 mW to 750 mW input on 10m.? Anybody have any suggestions on how to mod the uBitx to limit output to around 500 mW?

73 de W5NNH


Re: Search 433,9 mhz transformer

John Cunliffe W7ZQ
 

Mini circuits, or if you want to do filter use one of the cheap Murata or similar ceramic filters.


Desk Mic for ubitx

 

A cheap desk mic for ubitx in Nuts & Volts magazine.

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Vu2spf/ Bhatnagar


Re: Search 433,9 mhz transformer

 

Hello,

Yes, I know TinySA, but the goal here is more educational on construction and development.
?Doing with your hands is more rewarding than buying at all.
This will be for the next long winter evenings.?LOL.
I agree that there should also be an input attenuator.

However, I do not have an answer on the 433.9MHZ transformer and possibly a future equivalent schematics SA simple.
cdt


Re: Search 433,9 mhz transformer

 

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what about using an arduino and control a si chip as a tuneale clock like we du in bitx

depending what clock you use (and if you add a clock divider to a faster unit) you can do wide or narrow sweeps

... or just buy one of the simple analyzers that are build that way (like tiny SA)

greetz sigi dg9bfc

Am 14.06.2021 um 15:06 schrieb Gerard:

Hello,

Do you know where to find a 433.9 mhz transformer like TOKO case in Europe? or how to do one?
It¡¯s possibly for this montage. Nothing decided.

You may say it¡¯s an old montage, but it may be enough for what I do.
It can be ameriored with SMD components. The disadvantage of this small analyzer is that the scan is always between 1 and 300 MHZ. In fact the starting point of the f¨¦quence will always be to the left of the screen.?The action Span, only "enlarges" the sweep width and will give only 1 to 15 MHZ for example. I don¡¯t know if we can change or add some?components to be able to center the base frequency in the middle of the screen. Advantage of this small assembly, there is a possible tracking to make and associate. (ex testing filters) Of course if you have better and easy to do (no need of Gigahertz) with description and sch¨¦matics + typons, I am interested. cdt


Search 433,9 mhz transformer

 

Hello,

Do you know where to find a 433.9 mhz transformer like TOKO case in Europe? or how to do one?
It¡¯s possibly for this montage. Nothing decided.



You may say it¡¯s an old montage, but it may be enough for what I do.
It can be ameriored with SMD components.
The disadvantage of this small analyzer is that the scan is always between 1 and 300 MHZ. In fact the starting point of the f¨¦quence will always be to the left of the screen.?The action Span, only "enlarges" the sweep width and will give only 1 to 15 MHZ for example.
I don¡¯t know if we can change or add some?components to be able to center the base frequency in the middle of the screen.
Advantage of this small assembly, there is a possible tracking to make and associate. (ex testing filters)
Of course if you have better and easy to do (no need of Gigahertz) with description and sch¨¦matics + typons, I am interested.
cdt


Re: RF power transistor

 

John, I'm part of a brave group building homebrew simple transceiver.? If you have one or two left, I and the group would put them to good use?


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Evan,

OK all clear now.
Unfortunately even in FAST position (the position I normally use), it looks quite slow, but that's not such a big issue.

Thanks?
Giuseppe
IZ4JUK


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Giuseppe,

You should see a change from the Fast to the Slow setting of the AGC corresponding to the speed of the S Meter update.? The value you are measuring in the S Meter function is the bias that is being sent to the two FETs that reduce the RF signal to the rig.? I do not know of a way to speed up the readings other than to maybe go back to the LM358 sensor and play some more with the capacitor value.

The other limiting factor is the speed of the Nano to read the value.? This may be the real delay in the update time.? The evidence to support this is the criticality of the capacitor selection.? The Nano is being pushed pretty hard in the ?BITX in all aspects of the capabilities of the device.? One of these days I may attempt to port the code to the Teensy 4.1 and use the Raduino that is supplied by Triumvirate Skonk Worx:


I have purchased the Raduino from them, I have the Nextion, just need to start working on the code.? That is not a small task (or else someone else would have done it already;-).

Hi John,
I like the idea of the variable resistor in place of the switch.? I will need to try it on one of my ?BiTX.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: uBitx V3 parts size

 

Sounds like Gary is affirming 1206 sized resistors.?

Many of us found that c81 needs to be experimentally determined, as its part of an equalization network. Mine without Allison's redesign needed adjustment. If you have an assortment of c0G, no or similar leaded caps they will work here. Whether to use small or leaded with manual assembly at HF is mostly about appearance.?

Curt


Re: uBitx V3 parts size

 

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from: Ashhar Farhan
05/11/18???
"I tried to keep all resistors and capacitors to 1206. However, some of the C0G caps in the filters were not available readily. Hence, we chose the more common 0805 for those."

i.e. the big ones are 1206 and the small ones are 0805.
-Gary


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi John,
I'm afraid your are speaking about the AGC fast-slow reaction, instead of my question regardin the SMeter reaction, which is quite slow.
Am I right?
Giuseppe


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

John Cunliffe W7ZQ
 

I have replaced the fast / slow positions with a 5Mohm potentiometer that is connected to the off points. Now I can adjust it from off to nice and slow? I use a linear taper for now but am looking for a log taper to see how that changes the characteristics of the adjustment . I like that solution a lot better than the previous 2 position switch.

John


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Evan,
well, thank you very much, as this was the problem! Now the SMeter works!
I just had to set up the right values and now the reading works. So many thanks for you help!
It's not very fast, quite similar to the previous circuit (),?therefore not big imprevements apart the leaner setup inside the uBitx.
Any chanche to make the SMeter faster in the reading?
The delay between what we receive and what we see on the smeter doen's create big problems, but a matching between between them would be nice.
Have a good Sunday
'73
Giuseppe IZ4JUK


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Giuseppe,

From what you are describing, I believe that there is a calibration issue with the CEC software.? I would recommend you follow the method using the S.Meter Assistant button, reading the high and low values as described, then select the response curve to set the meter points.? It should be described on the web page that I sent you.

I had a similar problem calibrating the S Meter until I found the assistant and the automatic scaling function in the Memory Manager software.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Evans,

I checked in the uBitx options under the View ADC menu, and putting the frequency on a signal, I read values increasing depending on teh station signal, until 250.
Therefore apparently the A7 pin gets the value from tha raduino.

Shold I probably try to drastically increase the values on the Memory Manager? As the values advised by KD8CEC do not show anything to my smeter.

COncrning the memoru manager version, I was using the 1.97. I now downloaded the last 1.11, thanks for it.

Regarding the AGC ON, yes I read it. I'd say that it'll always be ON, in slow of fast position. I won't put AGC in OFF as it's not really usable receiving different signals with different intensity.

RF potentiometer to attenuate the gain, I will evaluate in the future if I'll need to add it as well. Thanks for these advises....

For me is still a question why I'm not getting any signal showe on the SMeter connecting the A7 to the AGS circuit of Kit-Project...

73
Giuseppe IZ4JUK

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Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Giuseppe,

The link was meant to show you the screen on the Nextion display where the ADC values from pin A7 can be displayed in real-time.? That would tell you that the S Meter signal is getting to the Nano in the Raduino.

Here is a link on how to set the S Meter using the Memory Manager software on a Windows PC:


The material is about 1/3 of the way down the page.? It has some outdated references to the old Memory Manager operation (you no longer have to press the decode button as an example), however is correct for the section on setting the S Meter response and the S Meter Assistant use.

Here is the link to the Memory Manager software in case you do not have the most recent version:


I did note that too small of a capacitor on the LM358 based sensor would not integrate enough of the signal to get a reading, and as you have noticed too large a value gave a very slow response.

To reiterate a prior comment I made, if you turn off the AGC there is no signal available to feed the S Meter input.? The AGC must be on to allow the S Meter function to work.? That was why I went back to the separate LM358 based S Meter sensor.? If you look close in the pictures I sent in the prior email you can see the header pins that I installed on the AGC card.? This allowed me to switch back and forth between the AGC S Meter and the LM358 S Meter.

On a separate note, I would recommend installing the 1Kohm potentiometer for the RF attenuation.? I find that lowering the RF feed to the rig helps in high noise and close station operation.? Using reduced RF is a contester's trick to help in deciphering a weak signal next to a large adjacent signal.? Not needed, but does help in high noise situations.

Hope this helps.
73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: S-Meter with AGC circuit, help!

 

Hi Evan
thanks for your answer.
as per the link you posted, when Zi played with the external simple circuit advised by kd8cec, I tested several capacitors and choose 0,38uF as well. I tested also other bigger capacitors noting a delay in the smelter. Anyway also with the advised 0,38uF the smelter wasn¡¯t fast and smooth, but anyway quite slow.
When I got the AGC circuit from kit-project and noted it was possible to get the smelter reading also from this circuit, I was curious to see if the result was metter (faster smeter). For sure the layout was leaner excluding the previous smeter circuit.

in the link you posted I don¡¯t see any adjustments in the nextion options but only a way to ¡°observe¡± the differences on the screen using different capacitors. Or did I miss something?
I¡¯ve got my circuit (based on LM358) ready to be reinstalled in my uBitx, but I¡¯d be curious to see if the AGC circuit from kit-project can make it better (faster smeter reading).

let me know if I miss something as from my point of view, I¡¯d be able to see something on the nextion display connecting the A7 violet pin.
thanks again for your help?
73
Giuseppe IZ4JUK


uBitx V3 parts size

 

I am going to buy 11ohm resistors, and a 470pf cap as part of Allison's mod to even up the power. My question is, what size are the parts I am replacing?

Replace or parallel R941,R911, R96,R942 to get 11 ohms each

Change C81 to 470 pf

Thanks,
Ed KC8SBV