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Re: Bitx40 for visually inconvenienced ham #bitx40

 

Correction:
The QCX CW Transceiver does not have CAT control.
The QSX SSB/CW/PSK31/... Transceiver will.

The KB1OIQ hacks for the uBitx pointed to by my first link
? ??/g/BITX20/topic/17349156
look ideal for the vision impaired.
Hadn't looked into that before, impressive!

Jerry, KE7ER



On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 03:56 PM, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
Don't have a QCX, so can't compare the two except to say the QCX does not do SSB.
The QSX should come out someday, and will do CW and SSB, and a bunch more.
Downside is that the firmware of the QCX/QSX is closed source.
Though both have a CAT interface, should be possible to use that to make it usable
for the visually impaired.? And if not, Hans may be inclined to make it usable
once he has some time.


Re: Bitx40 for visually inconvenienced ham #bitx40

 

Kb1oiq on April 14 describes mods he made for a visually impaired ham. Look up his message here for info.

Curt


Re: Bitx40 for visually inconvenienced ham #bitx40

 

Don't have a QCX, so can't compare the two except to say the QCX does not do SSB.
The QSX should come out someday, and will do CW and SSB, and a bunch more.
Downside is that the firmware of the QCX/QSX is closed source.
Though both have a CAT interface, should be possible to use that to make it usable
for the visually impaired.? And if not, Hans may be inclined to make it usable
once he has some time.

The Bitx40 can be clean, except for this spur:? /g/BITX20/message/62326
Reports vary on whether that spur is within legal limits, but it is fairly close,
so better than the v3,v4 uBitx in that regard.
Spur can be cured with a high side vfo by going to Allard's v2 firmware and mods:
? ??


The Bitx40, like the uBitx, could use AGC and a pop fix, as per the kits that Kees?
had out in the past (but no longer has).? Worth copying that stuff into any Bitx40/uBitx.?
Could also use protection for Q13 if a nearby transmitter or electrical storm might blow it.
Somewhere in this thread, Kees talks about those kits, and where he hid all the?
design notes up in our groups.io files section:
? ??/g/BITX20/topic/nd6t_agc_implementation_for/18098324
Or look for "AGC" and "pop fix" over on ubitx.net

The best thing about the Bitx40 for this application is that it is simple and open source.
So somebody competent in programming an Arduino could make it friendly to a blind person.
Or do away with the Arduino entirely and drive it from a RasberryPi,? has the computing power
and memory available to do most anything you want.?
With an easy path to the uBitx if more bands are ever wanted.

You might take a look at some of the previous work reported in this forum:
??/g/BITX20/topic/17349156
??/g/BITX20/topic/4181753
??/g/BITX20/topic/4192181

Jerry, KE7ER?

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On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 02:58 PM, Mike Short wrote:
I am looking at options for a 40M qrp radio for a mostly blind ham. He would like to have SSB and CW if possible. Ease of use is paramount.?

He has looked at the qcx40. How does the bitx40 compare?

?I will be putting together whatever we come up with.?


Bitx40 for visually inconvenienced ham #bitx40

Mike Short
 

I am looking at options for a 40M qrp radio for a mostly blind ham. He would like to have SSB and CW if possible. Ease of use is paramount.?

He has looked at the qcx40. How does the bitx40 compare?

?I will be putting together whatever we come up with.?

Mike
AI4NS


Re: BitX40 low power output #bitx40

 

Should not be any need to remove L8 and C160 when going around the LPF.
I'd just put that 3W 51 ohm resistor across C160, nothing on the antenna connector,, see how quickly it gets hot


On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 01:53 PM, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
If CW power out is also low, could be trouble in the transmit LPF.? Remove L8 and C160 from the circuit,
couple what was the top of C160 out to your 50 ohm dummy load.
There will be lots of harmonics now, but should see adequate power if the trouble was in the LPF.


Re: BitX40 low power output #bitx40

 

You should be adjusting the quiescent drain current through the IRF510 for 100ma or so (with PTT pressed so it is trying to transmit).
Did you succeed at this?? No RF need be generated when doing this adjustment, so no need to speak into the mike.
When you get that 100ma quiescent current, the drain of the IRF510 should be at your supply voltage (typically 12 volts dc)
and the gate will be around 4v.? Be careful when making this adjustment, the bias pot is backwards, so fully counter-clockwise is max current
which will be several amps of drain current, and the IRF510 will smoke unless you have a fuse in the power supply line of 2 amps or so.

The instructions to set the bias current are at? ?
under "Alignment of the Bitx40".

Did R136 get twiddled, and left too far clockwise (also backwards, so fully clockwise is zero watts out).

If you can adjust for 100ma of IRF510 drain current, then the IRF510 is probably fine.
Problem is somewhere between the mike and the IRF510 gate, too small of a signal is getting through.
Could be a broken/shorted/cold-soldered wire on one of those torroids?


Here's a bunch of other suggestions, not in any particular order:

Verify your DC power supply is holding up at 12v when you key try to transmit.

Verify your dummy load is correctly connected to the antenna/ground connector into the Bitx40.
The BNC connectors that come with these kits are sometimes not quite machined to spec,
and the center pin of the BNC plug may not be making contact.? Cables can also fail.

Do the mods that Allard suggests (v1 or v2) to implement CW mode.?
If you get sufficient power out in CW mode, that means the trouble is between the mike and the dual diode modulator.

If CW power out is also low, could be trouble in the transmit LPF.? Remove L8 and C160 from the circuit,
couple what was the top of C160 out to your 50 ohm dummy load.
There will be lots of harmonics now, but should see adequate power if the trouble was in the LPF.

Perhaps your power meter is haywire.??
Build a low power dummy load of 3 or 4 watts so it heats up?quickly, perhaps using Mouser 283-51-RC.
Get a feel for how fast it heats up when transmitting CW for a few seconds,
then try to get the same effect by wiring that same 50 ohm resistor to a variable power supply?or a string of batteries.??
For example, watts = volts * volts / 50ohms,? so sqrt(10Watts*50ohms) = 22.4 volts DC?
should also heat up that same 50 ohm resistor at a 10 Watt rate.

Q13 and R141 run hotter than they should.? If you fed your Bitx40 more than 12v, they could have smoked.
Also, atmospheric static or a local QRO station with it's antenna near your Bitx40 antenna can blow Q13.
Check the DC emitter-to-ground voltage at Q13 and Q14 when transmitting with no audio, Randy says about 3.5 and 0.5 volts respectively:
? ? /g/BITX20/files/K7AGE/BITX40%20Voltage%20Measurments.pdf?
Search "Q13 R141" in this bitx20 forum web page for more info.

Check the other voltages Randy gives, see if they more or less? agree with your rig on transmit.?

If power out is still low, time to build a diode RF probe or find a 10MHz (or better) oscilloscope,
see where in the transmit signal chain the signal level is falling off.

So, in answer to your question, there's lots of things to do before blindly replacing the IRF510.
Your trouble could be anywhere between the mike and the power meter inclusive,
and odds are it's not the IRF510.

Jerry, KE7ER


Re: Correct for Nextion display width & fill 2.8" screen

 

Try this site:


73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Correct for Nextion display width & fill 2.8" screen

 

Well, two things - my screen is a 3.2" and not a 2.8" measure.? I've been using the correctly labeled .tft files for this at home; I just made a typo here in this forum is all. Now that you know I'm working with a 3.2, I believe this screen would look great if it were taller, henceforth, the width going all the way across as well? :) though I'm not sure I want to pay another $40 to make that happen just now.

The second is that I tried Rich's 3.2 screen program and, for me at least, the clarity was severely lacking. Mine is a 3.2 Enhanced and I downloaded the enhanced .tft file but it just looks unsharp to me.? Sorry to have to report that (and I don't deny that it could be me). I deeply appreciate the lead nonetheless.

So, any other pointers for a 3.2" screen user, using a 3.2" screen program that doesn't fill the 3.2" screen?

Tnx, all.

--Ted


Re: JackAl BOM help pls

Jack Purdum
 

See below:

Jack, W8TEE


On Thursday, December 27, 2018, 10:55:21 AM EST, MadRadioModder <madradiomodder@...> wrote:



The transformer is just a minature interstage isolation transformer. ?600:600. ? They are all over ebay.?

The 2x3 connector you can make by breaking off parts of a 1x40 easily.?

?


On Dec 27, 2018, at 11:43 AM, PeteWK8S via Groups.Io <pmeier@...> wrote:

Hi all,?
I've collecting parts for the upcoming JackAl PCB.?Jack's BOM lists what we need but not where to find the parts.
?I've located most parts. However, I'm having a devil of time finding two parts.?

The two parts are: ?6 Pin, dual row (2x3) IDC male and female connectors.? eBay # 170938704657?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Audio isolation transformers, 600 ohm, 1:1 ? ?- need correct size for the PCB - lots of different configurations of these out there. ebay # 401648297324

Thanks for any help.

Pete WK8S
pmeier@...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

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BitX40 low power output #bitx40

 

Having some trouble with my bitx40 output lately. Using a QRP Guys dummy load, I'm measuring only 3V peak on the output (which translates to 90mW). I went back through the bitx setup instructions and tried adjusting the PA bias. When measuring the PA current draw, the most I got was around 200mA.?

I've tried multiple mics to rule out low audio input problems.?

Is there anything else I should try before replacing the IRF510??

Cheers,
David K4DBZ


Re: JackAl BOM help pls

PeteWK8S
 

The 2x3 connector specified is an IDC connector not a plain pin header. Your suggested method can work but will not be as clean or easy to connect and disconnect as using IDC connectors as Jack is suggesting.

Thanks


Re: JackAl BOM help pls

 

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The transformer is just a minature interstage isolation transformer. ?600:600. ? They are all over ebay.?

The 2x3 connector you can make by breaking off parts of a 1x40 easily.?

?


On Dec 27, 2018, at 11:43 AM, PeteWK8S via Groups.Io <pmeier@...> wrote:

Hi all,?
I've collecting parts for the upcoming JackAl PCB.?Jack's BOM lists what we need but not where to find the parts.
?I've located most parts. However, I'm having a devil of time finding two parts.?

The two parts are: ?6 Pin, dual row (2x3) IDC male and female connectors. ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Audio isolation transformers, 600 ohm, 1:1 ? ?- need correct size for the PCB - lots of different configurations of these out there.

Thanks for any help.

Pete WK8S
pmeier@...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

--

¡­_. _._


JackAl BOM help pls

PeteWK8S
 

Hi all,?
I've collecting parts for the upcoming JackAl PCB.?Jack's BOM lists what we need but not where to find the parts.
?I've located most parts. However, I'm having a devil of time finding two parts.?

The two parts are: ?6 Pin, dual row (2x3) IDC male and female connectors. ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Audio isolation transformers, 600 ohm, 1:1 ? ?- need correct size for the PCB - lots of different configurations of these out there.

Thanks for any help.

Pete WK8S
pmeier@...
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


Re: uBITX for sale $67

Dave Dixon
 

hi bill,
?????? this is not meant to be a sob story but? Ive a friend who is disabled and confined to a wheelchair and if your bitx is still for sale would you be willing to post to the uk.? then i will box it for him.Regards Dave.G0AYD QTHR


On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 at 17:23, Jon Titus, KZ1G <tituskz1g@...> wrote:
uBITX transceiver for sale.? I built the radio but didn't use it beyond a few quick CW QSOs.? Unfortunately it's unlikely I'll use it again.? Well packaged and shipped in the USA.? Transceiver and shipping via UPS or USPS, $67 total.? Documentation included.? Paypal only: jontitus@....? (See photos.)

This transceiver includes a 4-line LCD and programmed Arduino module for the RadI2Cino (Radio-I2C-Arduino) modifications.? (Documentation included.)? I installed this and it works.? This mod includes a different controller board, but you can revert to the original configuration if you wish.? I'll include the original plug-in control module, 2-line LCD, and the Arduino module so you can go back to the original configuration if you wish.

The transceiver comes mounted on a wooden board with clear plastic front and rear panels.? You can use the radio as-is or put it in a case of your choice.? Instead of using the pushbutton in the incremental encoder rotary control I added a separate high-quality pushbutton.? The RadI2Cino modification required a second pushbutton for the VFO selection (A/B/Split).

I removed the transmit/receive relay and replaced it with a front-panel switch.? Two small LEDs indicate the status (red-transmit and green, receive).? I'll include this relay in case you want to use it instead of the switch.? My front panel includes an SPDT switch for power, but I didn't connect it.
--
Jon Titus, KZ1G
Herriman, UT USA




Best Mod in the known universe

 

Here is a 3D printable? .stl file that adapts the audio poteniometer? small shaft to a regular 1/4" shaft.
enjoy.??

Richard VA3NDO


Re: uBITX Low Power Output

 

For the price of some electret mic I would try a different one. There are differences. Not always based on price. I generally have to get the mic close to get much out of them. Think of how close you are to a phone mic. From a foot back you won't get much out of them.

Have found that I get approx the same peak on mic as the cw carrier puts out.

If you choose to run higher voltage on the finals would put on bigger heat sinks and fan.

I would agree that the metering gets wonky when transmitting into a mismatched antenna feed line. I made this mistake in believing the power meter with a higher swr. Can still pick up a few ft8 signals when on my dummy load so it isn't as dummy as predicted. My shack has metal siding and roof.


Re: Volume Limiting and Distortion Reduction for uBITX #ubitx

 

There's a lot more going on here than just replacing R13 with a 1n4007.
We need to send a current through the 1n4007 from a control circuit,
the more current through the 1n4007 the lower its resistance and?
the greater the gain in that IF stage.

If you bridge R13 with a 1n4007, then gain in that IF stage
can never be less than that of a stock radio (not good).
Removing R13 from the board will be the least of your worries.

To get any AGC design to work well, you either have to be
extremely lucky or really know what you are doing.?
Or copy a design that somebody else got working.

If you want AGC, I'd recommend dead-bugging the ND6T scheme here:
??
Use the circuit under the heading "New AGC System", April 16 2018.
That is what Kees shipped out as a kit (he has no more available).
Works on both the Bitx40 and the uBitx.

Kees' version uses jumpers to adjust R6 (in the ND6T schematic)
for values between 330k and 2meg, not just frozen at 1meg.
This allows the AGC hold time to be set to your preference.
Making R6 be 0 ohms would shut down the AGC, so it works like a stock rig.
Kees also added some 0.01uF and 1.0uF bypass caps to the 5v rail.

Allison's 1n4007 would more or less replaces Kees' two 2n7002 FET's.
Details of how to implement Allison's scheme are left as an exercise for the reader.
Good luck! If you want easy, I suggest you use ND6T's scheme.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 08:07 PM, Bob Lunsford wrote:
My question is whether merely bridging R13 with the 1N400X would
bring about positive results or if adding the diode would be useful
only if R13 is removed?


Re: Volume Limiting and Distortion Reduction for uBITX #ubitx

 

RE:
Allison recommends using a 1n4007 as a pin diode to set the gain in one (or both)
of the bidi IF amps, many of us have a 1n4007 in the junk box:
/g/BITX20/message/45984

Jerry, KE7ER
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The link refers to replacing R13 with a 1N400X diode to assist
in leveling the audio and avoiding the booming effect. The "fix"
is simplicity itself even if not totally effective.

This relates to lack of AGC for the UBITX.

A few times listening to a net where some powerhouse station blasts
the audio line is enough to make this a consideration. Seeing the link
above shows that a simple "fix" may be effective but ass to just how
effective it may be is another factor.

My question is whether merely bridging R13 with the 1N400X would
bring about positive results or if adding the diode would be useful
only if R13 is removed? I know the mechanics of removing an SMD
device but bridging the resistor with rhe diode would be much simpler.

Also, it seems obvious that the diode's cathode would be connected
to ground. Is it so obvious that polarity was not mentioned?

Bob ¡ª KK5R

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On Wed, 12/26/18, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote:

Subject: Re: [BITX20] Volume Limiting and Distortion Reduction for uBITX #ubitx
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, December 26, 2018, 11:26 AM

There have been dozens of
threads in this forum about adding AGC to the Bitx40 and
uBitx.
Most get hacked in (both detection
and attenuation) after the rx audio preamp,
to prevent ear damage on a sudden strong
signal.
Then perhaps add a manual RF gain
pot at the antenna port to avoid audio preamp overload.

Some used PIN diodes to
attenuate the signal at RF (or IF) frequencies,
and thus get around the dynamic range
limitations of that 2n3904 audio pre-amp stage.
Here's the earliest thread to identify the
dynamic range issue of that Bitx/uBitx audio pre-amp
stage:
:? ??/g/BITX20/topic/5945215#32066

Kees (K5BCQ) sold nearly 1000
kits of an AGC design from Don (ND6T).
This
was audio detection with RF attenuation at the antenna port
using 2n7002 FETs.
Nik (VK4PLN) was planning
to sell a kit with audio detection and attenuation
after the audio preamp, I don't know what
came of that.
? ?
?

Sensing
signal levels is probably best done after conversion to
audio.
Must sense after the 12mhz crystal
filter, or strong signals elsewhere in the band
will bring on the AGC action.? But if we sense
between that 12mhz crystal filter
and the
demodulator, then we will likely be seeing mostly the
unshielded 12mhz bfo.

Attenuation could be anywhere between the
antenna port and the input to the audio preamp.
Putting attenuation at the antenna port avoids
overloading the mixers and IF amps,
but they
generally have enough dynamic range that it doesn't
really matter where we pot it.
Putting
attenuation after the audio preamp works, but does not fix
the dynamic range
issue of that preamp.

Various ways to implement
attenuation at RF, here's a good one that?
tries to maintain a 50 ohm impedance match, and
is quite cheap:
? ??

Allison recommends
using a 1n4007 as a pin diode to set the gain in one (or
both)
of the bidi IF amps, many
of us have a 1n4007 in the junk box:
??/g/BITX20/message/45984

Jerry,
KE7ER


Re: uBITX Low Power Output

 

Hi Bret,

I got a result, not perfect but It will do for what I want.? I adjusted up RV1, a 100ohm trim pot which is before the final chain.? It didn't solve the problem of why the difference between CW and SSB.? The trimpot cranked the whole output up somewhere near 10w.? I can now get 3w CW and 10w SSB so that is close enough.? As I mentioned in the thread, some bands were higher on CW and others lower.

One suggestion had been that oscillators were giving different outputs.? Never got that far.

Cheers,

Rod
VK1ACE


On Thu, 27 Dec 2018 at 06:07, Bret Mills <bret.wx7y@...> wrote:
Hi Rod,?
Did you ever get your low power issue resolved?
I have finally gotten around to getting my UBITX V3 board done and on the air and I find the same issue as you have described here on this thread.?
about 3 Watt's is about all I can get out and that is on 20 Meters when driving the Mosfet's to about 125MA Bias.?

--
You can email me back direct?bret.wx7y@...?if you like.
thanks and 73's
Bret
WX7Y


Re: Help on parts and or repairs !

Mike Lichtman
 

Chuck,
Check to see if you have the heat sinks on the finals touching the case. That will blow them. 73 Mike KF6KXG