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On 06/20/2018 04:03 PM, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

Not at all, but you would've been if I actually said what I was thinking!

Vince.

On 06/20/2018 03:51 PM, Arv Evans wrote:

Vince

Hope i am not that hypercritical!

Arv
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Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
Date: 6/20/18 1:26 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

You guys whining about doing mods to your Bitx radios amaze me. When I
bought my Collins (KWS-1 & 74A-4 and still have them) the manuals came
with all the mods the factory said should be done and that the original
owner did, just like most of the other owners did. Collins had mods,
and you think a Bitx kit radio shouldn't? I'd say more but I'd
probably get a nasty note from Arv.

Vince.



On 06/20/2018 03:12 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

Hi,

I don't believe HFSignals is responsible for the post office's shoddy
handling of packages entrusted to them. So lets just submit the proper
insurance claim to the post office and get on with our lives. The
package I received was a package inside a package inside a package. I
almost had to get out my power saw just to open it. Comments about your
postal people redacted.

I made a neat little steel box for my ubitx V3 to live in. It lives
there and I am using it as delivered. I will probably wade into a
software update to get a couple of features I might like that are not in
the stock software. Costs nothing. If I don't like it I can revert back
to the original.

Once again..I am using the ubitx V3 as delivered. No butchering. No
modifications required. I am *using* it. As-is. No mods required. No
mods desired. No butchering. No bodges. That is what is advertised,
"Works out of the box". Modifications? The mods I see other hams doing
are things they *wanted* to do. Not things they have to do. If you
wanted some other radio then you should have bought some other radio to
start with. And to think you could have bought a *real* radio for only
$5000 and been disappointed with that! Owners of those radios have
little complaints too. Read the messages on their lists:)

The only sympathy I can muster for you is your incredible bad luck with
your postal service.


73,

Bill KU8H

On 06/20/2018 09:57 AM, Ray Koster via Groups.Io wrote:

I think that Andy is correct in thinking why he should have to do all
these mods to this kit!! I also have purchased and built several
kits in
the past and have never had to do the scale of modifications that are
now required to get this kit to work correctly. It was never disclosed
on the HF signals website that it will be required by the builder to
almost replace every component to make the rig work and be legal on
the air.

Why are you Guy's sticking up for Farhan, when he does not come forward
and hold his hands up and say that the kit should have never gone to
market.If this was UK produced ,then Trading Standards would have
closed
HF Signals down long ago!!!

No one can expect a builder to rip out components and bodge the pcb to
get it to work. This is not a user friendly board as it is all surface
mounted and if you dont have good eye sight and the correct equipment
then it will end up as a bin job!!

Also most builders do not have the correct test equipment to make tests
to insure that after all these mod's, they are legal when on the air
with this kit

My biggest beef about all this is that HF Signals cannot deliver a kit
to me that is not damaged in the post and please dont tell me I have
pissed of the postman, My postman is a nice guy and so are the staff at
the sorting office and India to the UK is a very long way

I paid good money for a Bitx 40 and a Ubitx V3 and both were received
damaged, a replacement Bitx was sent and that was also received
damaged.

When I pay good money, I expect to receive the goods in a usable state
and then I do not expect to have to then remove and replace most of the
components at my expense, and probably have to wait weeks for these new
components to come in, just to get it to work correctly

Firmware updates are acceptable as the nature of the code can led to
bugs creeping in and this is a very easy thing to do and does not
require butchery of the pcb

Ray Koster G7BHQ

--
Michigan VHF Corp.

On 06/20/2018 03:51 PM, Arv Evans wrote:

Vince

Hope i am not that hypercritical!

Arv
_-_




Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone

-------- Original message --------
From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
Date: 6/20/18 1:26 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] uBITX Version 4 first attempt #ubitx-help #ubitx

You guys whining about doing mods to your Bitx radios amaze me. When I
bought my Collins (KWS-1 & 74A-4 and still have them) the manuals came
with all the mods the factory said should be done and that the original
owner did, just like most of the other owners did. Collins had mods,
and you think a Bitx kit radio shouldn't? I'd say more but I'd
probably get a nasty note from Arv.

Vince.



On 06/20/2018 03:12 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:

Hi,

I don't believe HFSignals is responsible for the post office's shoddy
handling of packages entrusted to them. So lets just submit the proper
insurance claim to the post office and get on with our lives. The
package I received was a package inside a package inside a package. I
almost had to get out my power saw just to open it. Comments about your
postal people redacted.

I made a neat little steel box for my ubitx V3 to live in. It lives
there and I am using it as delivered. I will probably wade into a
software update to get a couple of features I might like that are not in
the stock software. Costs nothing. If I don't like it I can revert back
to the original.

Once again..I am using the ubitx V3 as delivered. No butchering. No
modifications required. I am *using* it. As-is. No mods required. No
mods desired. No butchering. No bodges. That is what is advertised,
"Works out of the box". Modifications? The mods I see other hams doing
are things they *wanted* to do. Not things they have to do. If you
wanted some other radio then you should have bought some other radio to
start with. And to think you could have bought a *real* radio for only
$5000 and been disappointed with that! Owners of those radios have
little complaints too. Read the messages on their lists:)

The only sympathy I can muster for you is your incredible bad luck with
your postal service.


73,

Bill KU8H

On 06/20/2018 09:57 AM, Ray Koster via Groups.Io wrote:

I think that Andy is correct in thinking why he should have to do all
these mods to this kit!! I also have purchased and built several kits in
the past and have never had to do the scale of modifications that are
now required to get this kit to work correctly. It was never disclosed
on the HF signals website that it will be required by the builder to
almost replace every component to make the rig work and be legal on
the air.

Why are you Guy's sticking up for Farhan, when he does not come forward
and hold his hands up and say that the kit should have never gone to
market.If this was UK produced ,then Trading Standards would have closed
HF Signals down long ago!!!

No one can expect a builder to rip out components and bodge the pcb to
get it to work. This is not a user friendly board as it is all surface
mounted and if you dont have good eye sight and the correct equipment
then it will end up as a bin job!!

Also most builders do not have the correct test equipment to make tests
to insure that after all these mod's, they are legal when on the air
with this kit

My biggest beef about all this is that HF Signals cannot deliver a kit
to me that is not damaged in the post and please dont tell me I have
pissed of the postman, My postman is a nice guy and so are the staff at
the sorting office and India to the UK is a very long way

I paid good money for a Bitx 40 and a Ubitx V3 and both were received
damaged, a replacement Bitx was sent and that was also received damaged.

When I pay good money, I expect to receive the goods in a usable state
and then I do not expect to have to then remove and replace most of the
components at my expense, and probably have to wait weeks for these new
components to come in, just to get it to work correctly

Firmware updates are acceptable as the nature of the code can led to
bugs creeping in and this is a very easy thing to do and does not
require butchery of the pcb

Ray Koster G7BHQ

--
Michigan VHF Corp.

You guys whining about doing mods to your Bitx radios amaze me.? When I
bought my Collins (KWS-1 & 74A-4 and still have them) the manuals came
with all the mods the factory said should be done and that the original
owner did, just like most of the other owners did.? Collins had mods,
and you think a Bitx kit radio shouldn't??? I'd say more but I'd
probably get a nasty note from Arv.

Vince.



On 06/20/2018 03:12 PM, Bill Cromwell wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I don't believe HFSignals is responsible for the post office's shoddy
> handling of packages entrusted to them. So lets just submit the proper
> insurance claim to the post office and get on with our lives. The
> package I received was a package inside a package inside a package. I
> almost had to get out my power saw just to open it. Comments about your
> postal people redacted.
>
> I made a neat little steel box for my ubitx V3 to live in. It lives
> there and I am using it as delivered. I will probably wade into a
> software update to get a couple of features I might like that are not in
> the stock software. Costs nothing. If I don't like it I can revert back
> to the original.
>
> Once again..I am using the ubitx V3 as delivered. No butchering. No
> modifications required. I am *using* it. As-is. No mods required. No
> mods desired. No butchering. No bodges. That is what is advertised,
> "Works out of the box". Modifications? The mods I see other hams doing
> are things they *wanted* to do. Not things they have to do. If you
> wanted some other radio then you should have bought some other radio to
> start with. And to think you could have bought a *real* radio for only
> $5000 and been disappointed with that! Owners of those radios have
> little complaints too. Read the messages on their lists:)
>
> The only sympathy I can muster for you is your incredible bad luck with
> your postal service.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Bill? KU8H
>
> On 06/20/2018 09:57 AM, Ray Koster via Groups.Io wrote:
>> I think that Andy is correct in thinking why he should have to do all
>> these mods to this kit!! I also have purchased and built several kits in
>> the past and have never had to do the scale of modifications that are
>> now required to get this kit to work correctly. It was never disclosed
>> on the HF signals website that it will be required by the builder to
>> almost replace every component to make the rig work and be legal on
>> the air.
>>
>> Why are you Guy's sticking up for Farhan, when he does not come forward
>> and hold his hands up and say that the kit should have never gone to
>> market.If this was UK produced ,then Trading Standards would have closed
>> HF Signals down long ago!!!
>>
>> No one can expect a builder to rip out components and bodge the pcb to
>> get it to work. This is not a user friendly board as it is all surface
>> mounted and if you dont have good eye sight and the correct equipment
>> then it will end up as a bin job!!
>>
>> Also most builders do not have the correct test equipment to make tests
>> to insure that after all these mod's, they are legal when on the air
>> with this kit
>>
>> My biggest beef about all this is that HF Signals cannot deliver a kit
>> to me that is not damaged in the post and please dont tell me I have
>> pissed of the postman, My postman is a nice guy and so are the staff at
>> the sorting office and India to the UK is a very long way
>>
>> I paid good money for a Bitx 40 and a Ubitx V3 and both were received
>> damaged, a replacement Bitx was sent and that was also received damaged.
>>
>> When I pay good money, I expect to receive the goods in a usable state
>> and then I do not expect to have to then remove and replace most of the
>> components at my expense, and probably have to wait weeks for these new
>> components to come in, just to get it to work correctly
>>
>> Firmware updates are acceptable as the nature of the code can led to
>> bugs creeping in and this is a very easy thing to do and does not
>> require butchery of the pcb
>>
>> Ray Koster G7BHQ
>>
>

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