re. TR Switching for the BITX
Those BITX builders who want to have QSK operation without relays might want to look at the web site of Miguel PY2OHH
<>
He shows and explains his simple diode based TR switching method. This should be adaptable to the BITX design.
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H&P stabilisation would hold your frequency to within a Hz or two for the long term, thus minimizing even a slow drift after warm up. Hans has come up with several minimalist stabilizer designs (a "One-Chip", a "two-chip" and a minimalist version of the "Fast Stabilizer"). These circuits may be found on the <HUFFPUFFVFO.yahoogroups.com> forum. Hans' stabilizer circuits may be made to lock onto 16, 32, or 64 Hz tuning steps. The one and two chip designs use a 32.768 KHz watch crystal (salvage one from a cheap watch purchased at the local dollar store).driving a 74HC4060 binary counter for the timebase.
I have looked before at that receiver and counter on the web page you suggested. Hans G0UPL's web page also has some minimalist counters that could be adapted to your L.O. output, as does Onno PA2OHH <www.qsl.net/pa2ohh/sfreq.htm> and Miguel PY2OHH <>.
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 16:53:53 -0000, kc8afu1965 <kc8afu1965@...> wrote: Thanks Arv,
I've had the AFU callsign for about ten years and you're the first person to comment on it. I thought it was funny when it was first assigned to me but nobody seemed to share my sense of humor. Thanks for noticing!
Thanks for the huff&puff invite. I've also been looknig at Hans Summers website and I'm thinking about trying it out. My current CW rcvr is the popcorn rcvr from the qrp homebuilder homepage. It has an LO freq of approx 2.5 MHz (4.433 MHz IF)and is pretty stable ( I think I remember about 2Hz per minute after warm-up but it's been a while since I measured it so I could be wrong) but I am intrigued by the H&P. Lately I have been finishing up a presettable frequency counter that I can run directly off of my VFO. Now I know where I am on the band. It can be found at:
It's at the bottom of the homepage. Thanks for the invite and I will start checking out the H&P group.
73's & HPE CUL.
Troy KC8AFU --- In BITX20@..., "Arv Evans" <arvevans@e...> wrote:
Troy
The BITX has also been used for CW. Several builders have added a
center-of-the-filter BFO oscillator that serves both send and receive CW functions. I took the
simple way and just added a keyed AF oscillator that plugs into the mike jack.
Love the callsign. I'll bet you get a few comments about it though!
I did not see your name in the members list for the Huff and Puff group so
I will go over there and send you an invite. The Huff & Puff VFO group forum is a
logical extension to the BITX because using an H & P circuit to stabilize your
BITX oscillator makes it into a very stable but still inexpensive rig that is capable of
working with narrow filters for CW and PSK/MSK contacts.
Arv K7HKL
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Thanks Arv, I've had the AFU callsign for about ten years and you're the first person to comment on it. I thought it was funny when it was first assigned to me but nobody seemed to share my sense of humor. Thanks for noticing! Thanks for the huff&puff invite. I've also been looknig at Hans Summers website and I'm thinking about trying it out. My current CW rcvr is the popcorn rcvr from the qrp homebuilder homepage. It has an LO freq of approx 2.5 MHz (4.433 MHz IF)and is pretty stable ( I think I remember about 2Hz per minute after warm-up but it's been a while since I measured it so I could be wrong) but I am intrigued by the H&P. Lately I have been finishing up a presettable frequency counter that I can run directly off of my VFO. Now I know where I am on the band. It can be found at: It's at the bottom of the homepage. Thanks for the invite and I will start checking out the H&P group. 73's & HPE CUL. Troy KC8AFU --- In BITX20@..., "Arv Evans" <arvevans@e...> wrote: Troy
The BITX has also been used for CW. Several builders have added a center-of-the-filter BFO oscillator that serves both send and receive CW functions. I took the simple way and just added a keyed AF oscillator that plugs into the mike jack.
Love the callsign. I'll bet you get a few comments about it though! I did not see your name in the members list for the Huff and Puff
group so I will go over there and send you an invite. The Huff & Puff VFO group forum is a logical extension to the BITX because using an H & P circuit to stabilize your BITX oscillator makes it into a very stable but still inexpensive rig that is capable of working with narrow filters for CW and PSK/MSK contacts.
Arv K7HKL
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Now you have the benefit to read for example every day ten (for you new) postings! Often it is better to follow also what happened before, preventing that the same questions are asked more often. Hear you on the band ;-) Chris, PA3CRX
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The BITX has also been used for CW. Several builders have added a center-of-the-filter BFO oscillator that serves both send and receive CW functions. I took the simple way and just added a keyed AF oscillator that plugs into the mike jack.
Love the callsign. I'll bet you get a few comments about it though!
I did not see your name in the members list for the Huff and Puff group so I will go over there and send you an invite. The Huff & Puff VFO group forum is a logical extension to the BITX because using an H & P circuit to stabilize your BITX oscillator makes it into a very stable but still inexpensive rig that is capable of working with narrow filters for CW and PSK/MSK contacts.
Arv K7HKL
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On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 17:23:14 -0000, kc8afu1965 <kc8afu1965@...> wrote: Hello all,
I just wanted to say what a fine group I think this is. I have not built a BITX (I do mostly CW homebrew projects) but most of the topics here have been pertinet to my homebrewing. My only regret is that I didn't join when the group was started (I've only been tuning in for the last two months). This group gets my approval as the best homebrewing group on the web. Keep up the good work guys!
Troy Hunt KC8AFU.
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Hello all,
I just wanted to say what a fine group I think this is. I have not built a BITX (I do mostly CW homebrew projects) but most of the topics here have been pertinet to my homebrewing. My only regret is that I didn't join when the group was started (I've only been tuning in for the last two months). This group gets my approval as the best homebrewing group on the web. Keep up the good work guys!
Troy Hunt KC8AFU.
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Re: Another slight modification to the BITX17 PA
Hi Ray,
?
Yes, you are right. Just QRP?should have been?sufficient. In fact 2 Watts represents a lot of electromagnetic RF energy.
And if propagation conditions do not let you down a lot can be achieved with 2 Joules per second (Especially with the nice decoding software tools we are offered these days).
?
73 Ron
PA2RF
Raj wrote:
Hi Ron,
QRPPPP = 5mW in my book! Every additional "P"= 1/10 power level..
I worked USA and a lot of EU with 1mW + small beam.. so you are running QRO!!!
Good Dx with Bitx
73 Raj VU2ZAP
with an adjustable matching network (pi-filter). No reply/qso yet >(but the band was very dead after 10'o-clock in the evening in >Holland and 2 Watt is QRPPPP).
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Re: Another slight modification to the BITX17 PA
Hi Ron,
QRPPPP = 5mW in my book! Every additional "P"= 1/10 power level..
I worked USA and a lot of EU with 1mW + small beam.. so you are running QRO!!!
Good Dx with Bitx
73 Raj VU2ZAP
with an adjustable matching network (pi-filter). No reply/qso yet
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Another slight modification to the BITX17 PA
Dear BITX homebrew-heroes!, I combined the ideas of Ruud and Alf and, to my surprise, the IRF510 is not self-oscillating anymore (at all DC bias settings) !! I did following (20 min work): Added 3 decoupling C's and 2 rf chokes to pa and driver circuitry and added a ferrite bead (from an old videoplayer) over the gate of the MOSFET. Also added a cap of 68 pF between drain of mosfet and gnd. I think the 10 cents ferrite did most of the job. RF power is still too low (appr. 2 Watts RF), so there is still something to do. Driver circuit needs an additional RF transisitor I guess. I found a nice 2SC1384 from an old CB-transceiver. Furthermore I can gain by further shielding the PA driver and improve the trifilair mosfet coil (I have one made, but it's behaviour seems to be similar when compared to the bifilair coil). Did some RTTY transmissions with 2 Watt yesterday though and the BITX17 sounds beautifully. Good USB, no remainders of carrierwave noticeable. I used a full lambda one-fed wire antenna (in the garden) with an adjustable matching network (pi-filter). No reply/qso yet (but the band was very dead after 10'o-clock in the evening in Holland and 2 Watt is QRPPPP). 73 and lots of homebrew fun Ron PA2RF --- In BITX20@..., "alf" <fpdbase@e...> wrote: Hi to all homebrew BITX20 members, Hope everybody is having fun building their version of the BITX radio. After attending local hamfest at the end of February, collecting all the relevant parts, started assembly of BITX20. The chassis, L shape was salvaged from the power supply of a old Fax machine and it's circuit board was used a source of some of the parts for the BITX20. Lot's of good parts in old equipment hi hi. A piece of single sided pcb was fitted to the chassis, copper side up, and ye old ugly style construction began. The VFO was built first and a compartment of double sided PCB surrounds it. A red LED is used to fine tune the frequency and gives about 4khz range. Various coils were tried at L4 to improve frequency stability, ended up using a ferrite bobbin from the salvaged Fax board. The Receiver front end was built next, opposite side of VFO partition. T1 mixer transformer is mounted on the crystal filter side (IF) via a feedthru capacitor. The IF, BFO and audio stages assembled and tested next. Used 2N2222A transistors throughout except for the PA amplifier of course, the audio output device is a TDA2002. The PA amp was built on a small heat sink salvaged from a old TV chassis, size 8 X 4.5 cm . The 2N2218 driver coupled to IRF510 using TV balun taken from TV tuner, and some instability occurred when driving a reactive load. This was cured by fitting a ferrite bead directly onto the gate leg of IRF510 Fet. The receiver audio is very clear and sensitivity better than 0.5 uV. Don't procrastinate, if your thinking it's all too much trouble, just have a go, you will learn more by doing. Many Thanks to Asher for allowing me too much fun..
Best regards to all BITX members
Alf VK2YAC
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Hi to all homebrew BITX20 members,
??????? Hope everybody is
having fun building their version of the BITX radio.
After attending?local hamfest at the end of February,
collecting all the relevant parts, started assembly of BITX20.?The chassis,
L? shape was salvaged from the power supply of a old ?Fax machine and
it's circuit board was used a source of some of the parts for the BITX20. Lot's
of good parts in old equipment hi hi. A piece of single sided pcb was fitted to
the chassis, copper side up, and ye old ugly style construction began. The VFO
was?built first and?a compartment of double sided PCB surrounds it. A
red LED is used to fine tune the frequency and gives about 4khz range. Various
coils were tried at L4 to improve frequency stability, ended up using a ferrite
bobbin from the salvaged Fax board. The Receiver front end was built next,
opposite side of VFO partition. T1 mixer transformer is mounted on the crystal
filter side?(IF)?via a feedthru capacitor. The IF, BFO and audio
stages assembled and tested next. ??Used 2N2222A transistors
throughout except for the PA amplifier of course, the audio output device is a
TDA2002.? The PA amp was built on a small heat sink salvaged from a old TV
chassis, size?8 X 4.5 cm?. The 2N2218 driver coupled to IRF510 using
TV balun taken from TV tuner, and some instability occurred when driving a
reactive load. This was cured by fitting a ferrite bead directly onto the gate
leg of IRF510 Fet. The receiver audio is very clear and sensitivity better than
0.5 uV.? Don't procrastinate, if your thinking it's all too much trouble,
just have a go, you will learn more by doing.
?
Many Thanks to Asher for allowing me too much
fun..
?
Best regards to all BITX members
?
Alf VK2YAC
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Hi Farhan, You can see in the schema's in the Files box under PE2BS or in the Photos box how I used the trifilair transformers. The first trifilair transformer (13 wdg on an T37-43 lookalike) is the output of the driverstage and is placed on its "print". The last trifilair transformer is made of 14 wdg trifilair on an T50-6. Like I wrote to Ron it is difficult to say what exactly solved the problem but I got rid of all the oscilations after the shielding AND the trifilair transformers. 73 Ruud. PE2BS --- In BITX20@..., "ashhar_farhan" <farhan@p...> wrote:
hi all,
looks like the instability problem has something to do with the
phase of the input to the IRF510 too. can those who have tried the trifilar windings also suggest the phase used in the transformer?
- farhan
--- In BITX20@..., "Ruud Jongeling" <pe2bs@t...> wrote:
Hi Ron,
I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start
oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level. The PA seems
to work OK when I was tuning from the computer and there was no
output when there was no modulation. Unfortunately the PA worked in
class C. The whole problem turned out to be an instability in the driver==>PA==>antenna system. I solved it the way I discribed in my message a few weeks ago: First I biased the IRF 510: with no modulation and carrier nulled
by the trimpot of the balanced modulator, the Id should be about 80
mA. (from: "A simple SSB tranceiver" by Ashar Farhan
www.antentop.bel.ru/) Second: a lot of decoupling. Third: shielding the driver stage (see picture in the picture box PE2BS) Fourth: change the impedance matching between driverstage and PA
and between the PA and the pi filter. Make it trifilair instead of bifilair (see the remarks of Chris in the filebox Modifications).
The result is also more watts RF.
Now the rig is working OK. When there is no modulation, there is
no output in the SWR meter and a little on the spectrumanalyzer.
Even with mismatching the system to the antenna the PA does not
generate. It is the first HF-QRP rig I build and the results are amazing.
In CW (Hamscope and CWget on the computer) and only 5 watt I worked
UA3, YO, ER, HA!
Succes and like to hear from you.
73
Ruud PE2BS
--- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink <pa2rf@y...> wrote:
Thanks for reply Chris, Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de
17 m band te horen!
I think your 6 Watts RF should be fine for digimode use. Or am
i wrong?
I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with
a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a
few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some
real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the
IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-
level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when
30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff
and Puff circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick
and fine way..
My appreciation for the BITX is growing ... Bye Ron 73 PA2RF
vdberghak <vdberghak@z...> wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with
very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in
combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor
radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out
of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above
the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have
to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For
the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
Interesting are you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly
what transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s
73 Rahul VU3WJM Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon,
heard ssb
voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire antenna
connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas
(up till
now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..)
Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) Ron PA2RF
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The imput impedance of the IRF510 is very low. Therefore I made the coil trifilar resulting in a lower impedance then originally. This gives more output but seems also give a better stability? I remember I have a low iddle current, (30 mA?) to have it stable. Higher iddle current brought not much benefits, the output increased slightly but not worth the additional heat up. Modulation is fine, several SSB contacts made with good result. Good luck, Chris.
hi all,
looks like the instability problem has something to do with the
phase of the input to the IRF510 too. can those who have tried the trifilar windings also suggest the phase used in the transformer?
- farhan
--- In BITX20@..., "Ruud Jongeling" <pe2bs@t...> wrote:
Hi Ron,
I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start
oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In
mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level.
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what kind of chokes did you use? 73s - de farhan --- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink <pa2rf@y...> wrote: Thanks Ruud, Congratulations with your CW QSOs. A fantastic achievement! I will keep your hints and tips in mind when I continue to experiment this weekend. I will start shielding the driver and make the trifilair coil. You mentioned 'decoupling' ; did you do this by adding RF chokes? Where exactly? Bye Ron pa2rf
Ruud Jongeling <pe2bs@t...> wrote:
Hi Ron,
I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level. The PA seems to work OK when I was tuning from the computer and there was no output when there was no modulation. Unfortunately the PA worked in class C. The whole problem turned out to be an instability in the driver==>PA==>antenna system. I solved it the way I discribed in my message a few weeks ago: First I biased the IRF 510: with no modulation and carrier nulled by the trimpot of the balanced modulator, the Id should be about 80 mA. (from: "A simple SSB tranceiver" by Ashar Farhan www.antentop.bel.ru/) Second: a lot of decoupling. Third: shielding the driver stage (see picture in the picture box PE2BS) Fourth: change the impedance matching between driverstage and PA and between the PA and the pi filter. Make it trifilair instead of bifilair (see the remarks of Chris in the filebox Modifications). The result is also more watts RF.
Now the rig is working OK. When there is no modulation, there is no output in the SWR meter and a little on the spectrumanalyzer. Even with mismatching the system to the antenna the PA does not generate.
It is the first HF-QRP rig I build and the results are amazing. In CW (Hamscope and CWget on the computer) and only 5 watt I worked UA3, YO, ER, HA!
Succes and like to hear from you.
73
Ruud PE2BS
--- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink <pa2rf@y...> wrote:
Thanks for reply Chris, Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de 17 m band te horen!
I think your 6 Watts RF should be fine for digimode use. Or am i wrong?
I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when 30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff and Puff circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick and fine way..
My appreciation for the BITX is growing ... Bye Ron 73 PA2RF
vdberghak <vdberghak@z...> wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor
radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
Interesting are you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly what transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s
73 Rahul VU3WJM Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon, heard ssb
voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire antenna
connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas (up till
now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..)
Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) Ron PA2RF
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hi all,
looks like the instability problem has something to do with the phase of the input to the IRF510 too. can those who have tried the trifilar windings also suggest the phase used in the transformer?
- farhan
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--- In BITX20@..., "Ruud Jongeling" <pe2bs@t...> wrote: Hi Ron,
I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level. The PA seems to work OK when I was tuning from the computer and there was no output when there was no modulation. Unfortunately the PA worked in class C. The whole problem turned out to be an instability in the driver==>PA==>antenna system. I solved it the way I discribed in my message a few weeks ago: First I biased the IRF 510: with no modulation and carrier nulled by the trimpot of the balanced modulator, the Id should be about 80 mA. (from: "A simple SSB tranceiver" by Ashar Farhan www.antentop.bel.ru/) Second: a lot of decoupling. Third: shielding the driver stage (see picture in the picture box PE2BS) Fourth: change the impedance matching between driverstage and PA and between the PA and the pi filter. Make it trifilair instead of bifilair (see the remarks of Chris in the filebox Modifications). The result is also more watts RF.
Now the rig is working OK. When there is no modulation, there is no output in the SWR meter and a little on the spectrumanalyzer. Even with mismatching the system to the antenna the PA does not generate.
It is the first HF-QRP rig I build and the results are amazing. In CW (Hamscope and CWget on the computer) and only 5 watt I worked UA3, YO, ER, HA!
Succes and like to hear from you.
73
Ruud PE2BS
--- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink <pa2rf@y...> wrote:
Thanks for reply Chris, Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de 17 m band te horen!
I think your 6 Watts RF should be fine for digimode use. Or am i wrong?
I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when 30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff and Puff circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick and fine way..
My appreciation for the BITX is growing ... Bye Ron 73 PA2RF
vdberghak <vdberghak@z...> wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor
radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
Interesting are you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly what transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s
73 Rahul VU3WJM Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon, heard ssb
voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire antenna
connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas (up till
now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..)
Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) Ron PA2RF
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Betr: Re: Re: Small mistake
Hi Ron, The decoupling was made by C's of varouis values (100 n, 22n, 47 u and 100 uf) in Vcc lines, the biassystem for the IF510, the relais for the PA, etc. See the schema in the file box (PE2BS schema's). In the Vcc I did addd RF chokes of 22 uH. It is difficult to say what solved the problem. The shielding and the better impedance matching were the most effectiv but I did this after decoupling. 73 Ruud -- Oorspronkelijk bericht -- To: BITX20@... From: Ron Brink <pa2rf@...> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 22:17:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [BITX20] Re: Small mistake Reply-To: BITX20@...
Thanks Ruud, Congratulations with your CW QSOs. A fantastic achievement! I will keep your hints and tips in mind when I continue to experiment this weekend. I will start shielding the driver and make the trifilair coil. You mentioned 'decoupling' ; did you do this by adding RF chokes? Where exactly? Bye Ron pa2rf
Ruud Jongeling <pe2bs@...> wrote:
Hi Ron,
I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level. The PA seems to work OK when I was tuning from the computer and there was no output when there was no modulation. Unfortunately the PA worked in class C. The whole problem turned out to be an instability in the driver==>PA==>antenna system. I solved it the way I discribed in my message a few weeks ago: First I biased the IRF 510: with no modulation and carrier nulled by the trimpot of the balanced modulator, the Id should be about 80 mA. (from: "A simple SSB tranceiver" by Ashar Farhan www.antentop.bel.ru/) Second: a lot of decoupling. Third: shielding the driver stage (see picture in the picture box PE2BS) Fourth: change the impedance matching between driverstage and PA and between the PA and the pi filter. Make it trifilair instead of bifilair (see the remarks of Chris in the filebox Modifications). The result is also more watts RF.
Now the rig is working OK. When there is no modulation, there is no output in the SWR meter and a little on the spectrumanalyzer. Even with mismatching the system to the antenna the PA does not generate.
It is the first HF-QRP rig I build and the results are amazing. In CW (Hamscope and CWget on the computer) and only 5 watt I worked UA3, YO, ER, HA!
Succes and like to hear from you.
73
Ruud PE2BS
--- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink <pa2rf@y...> wrote:
Thanks for reply Chris, Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de 17 m band te horen!
I think your 6 Watts RF should be fine for digimode use. Or am i wrong?
I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when 30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff and Puff circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick and fine way..
My appreciation for the BITX is growing ... Bye Ron 73 PA2RF
vdberghak <vdberghak@z...> wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor
radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
Interesting are you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly what transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s
73 Rahul VU3WJM
Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon, heard ssb
voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire antenna
connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas (up till
now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..)
Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) Ron PA2RF
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Thanks Ruud,
Congratulations with your CW QSOs.  ?A fantastic achievement!
I will keep your hints and tips in mind when I continue to experiment this weekend.
I will start shielding the driver and make the trifilair coil.
You mentioned 'decoupling' ; did you do this by adding RF chokes? Where exactly?
Bye
Ron
pa2rf
Ruud Jongeling wrote:
Hi Ron,
I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level. The PA seems to work OK when I was tuning from the computer and there was no output when there was no modulation. Unfortunately the PA worked in class C. The whole problem turned out to be an instability in the driver==>PA==>antenna system. I solved it the way I discribed in my message a few weeks ago: First I biased the IRF 510: with no modulation and carrier nulled by the trimpot of the balanced modulator, the Id should be about 80 mA.? (from: "A simple SSB tranceiver" by Ashar Farhan www.antentop.bel.ru/) Second: a lot of decoupling. Third: shielding the
driver stage (see picture in the picture box PE2BS) Fourth: change the impedance matching between driverstage and PA and between the PA and the pi filter. Make it trifilair instead of bifilair (see the remarks of Chris in the filebox Modifications). The result is also more watts RF.
Now the rig is working OK. When there is no modulation, there is no output in the SWR meter and a little on the spectrumanalyzer. Even with mismatching the system to the antenna the PA does not generate.
It is the first HF-QRP rig I build and the results are amazing. In CW (Hamscope and CWget on the computer) and only 5 watt I worked UA3, YO, ER, HA!
Succes and like to hear from you.
73
Ruud PE2BS
--- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink wrote: > Thanks for reply Chris, > Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de 17 m band te horen! > I think your 6 Watts RF should
be fine for digimode use. Or am i wrong? > I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when 30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff and Puff circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick and fine way.. > My appreciation for the BITX is growing ... > Bye > Ron 73 > PA2RF > > vdberghak wrote: > > Hi, > responding to the messages below: > - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very
> strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. > However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination > with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are > answering: 'only outside Europe'.... > - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor > radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of > the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the > noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to > turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! > In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. > By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the > stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. > Best regards, > Chris. > > > Interesting are you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly what > transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s > > 73 > > Rahul
VU3WJM > >? > > Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon, heard ssb > > voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire > antenna > > connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... > > Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas (up > till > > now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..) > > > > Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) > > Ron > > PA2RF > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Groups Links > >??? To visit your group on the web, go to: > >?? >??? To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: >
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Hi Ron, I just read your message. There is something in the message I recognize: 'Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level.' I had that problem too. In mine BITX-PSK it was not enough to lower the bias-level. The PA seems to work OK when I was tuning from the computer and there was no output when there was no modulation. Unfortunately the PA worked in class C. The whole problem turned out to be an instability in the driver==>PA==>antenna system. I solved it the way I discribed in my message a few weeks ago: First I biased the IRF 510: with no modulation and carrier nulled by the trimpot of the balanced modulator, the Id should be about 80 mA. (from: "A simple SSB tranceiver" by Ashar Farhan www.antentop.bel.ru/) Second: a lot of decoupling. Third: shielding the driver stage (see picture in the picture box PE2BS) Fourth: change the impedance matching between driverstage and PA and between the PA and the pi filter. Make it trifilair instead of bifilair (see the remarks of Chris in the filebox Modifications). The result is also more watts RF. Now the rig is working OK. When there is no modulation, there is no output in the SWR meter and a little on the spectrumanalyzer. Even with mismatching the system to the antenna the PA does not generate. It is the first HF-QRP rig I build and the results are amazing. In CW (Hamscope and CWget on the computer) and only 5 watt I worked UA3, YO, ER, HA! Succes and like to hear from you. 73 Ruud PE2BS --- In BITX20@..., Ron Brink <pa2rf@y...> wrote: Thanks for reply Chris, Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de 17 m band te horen! I think your 6 Watts RF should be fine for digimode use. Or am i wrong? I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when 30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff and Puff circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick and fine way.. My appreciation for the BITX is growing ... Bye Ron 73 PA2RF
vdberghak <vdberghak@z...> wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
Interesting are you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly what transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s
73 Rahul VU3WJM Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon, heard ssb voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire antenna
connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas (up till
now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..)
Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) Ron PA2RF
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I finish,last weekend, my BITX40 it works very fine... I use beads for all trifilar coils, 10 turns 0.15mm diameter wire twisted. The VFO is a HiperVXO running with 3 parallel xtals of 3020kHz, covering from 3010 to 2700kHZ (300kHz), the inductor series with xtal and varible capacitor (2x140pF parallel) is a 10mm red head OM oscillator. Look in my homepage at
The ladder filter are made with "CQ" Brand xtals and the values are For CW a build a second BFO connected with a attenutor to the input of the IF amplifier (just after the ladder filter) it is opereted directly with the key (ground keying), I dont use a switch to change from CW to DSB I disconnect the mike... I put another switch to change from USB (trimmer to grond) to LSB (inductor commercial 4.7?H series with a trimmer 4.6 -50pF yellow). I will plan to make it a multi band ... then I make the 7MHZ filter outside and this filter are build with 3 x 4.7?H commercial inductors (looks like a 1/4W resistor) .... The PA I will change to a bipolar 2SC1173 and it devellops about 9W output... I build also a RF pre-amplifier thinking in others bands. The LPF are also build in another box... I made few QSOs CW and SSB with good reports, I will make some pictures and discription ....
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Thanks for reply Chris,
Ja in de Zoetermeerse polder waren (kei) harde signalen in de 17 m band te horen!
I think your 6 Watts RF?should be fine for digimode use. Or am i wrong?
I hope to experience this myself on short notice. Yesterday did first trials with the IRF510 endstage. I had 4 Watts RF out with a RTTY test signal connected. Hope to increase output level with a few Watts (increase supply voltage and adjust pi-filter) and do some real trials (hopefully 2-way comms) this weekend. Found that the IRF510 has a tendency to start oscillating when set at a higher bias-level. Should fix that too. Also found that my (bureau) desk-light when 30 cm above the VFO gets this VFO change frequency; but when Huff and Puff?circuit is connected, VFO frequency is corrected in a quick and fine way..
My appreciation for the BITX is?growing ...
Bye 
Ron 73
PA2RF
vdberghak wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
> Interesting are
you using a speaker or heaphone. Secondly what transistors are you usingBC547s or 2n3904s > 73 > Rahul VU3WJM >? > Bye the way, RX signals on 17m were fine this afternoon, heard ssb > voice, rtty, psk31 and cw. With a one-lambda (17 m) long-wire antenna > connected. Some signals clear enough to decode... > Does anybody have experience with one wave-length antennas (up till > now I have only used half or quarter lambda ant's..) > > Bye bye and have a good Easter weekend (for what's left) > Ron > PA2RF
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Thanks,
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I made one using BC547s the gain was not very good. Will try replacing them with other transistors of higher gain.
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73
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Rahul VU3WJM
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vdberghak wrote:
Hi, responding to the messages below: - Ron, in the Netherlands, I heard also several stations with very strong signals, form Russia but also from the States. However, the 6 watt I have on 17 mtr is a bit little in combination with my sloping dipole. Stations in (for example) Bulgaria are answering: 'only outside Europe'.... - Rahul, I use a small 8 Ohm speaker (removed from an old transistor radio). When I connect the antenna, a loud noise is comming out of the speaker. When I receive a weak station, it is just above the noise but at the moment a strong station enters, I really have to turn down the volume potmeter immidiatly! In fact, the volume is never on its maximum. By the way, I use the real, original BC107, metal can ;-) For the stage before the LM386 I use a BC109. Best regards, Chris.
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