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Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

Good idea, Bo.?

The only thing I worry about is, what if there is more than just a Raduino that is at issue with the one I received. I don't want to sell you junk.?
If you were nearby in NY State I'd hand deliver it to you and if there was an issue I'd just take it back. To mail it back and forth cross country, should there be an issue with it, becomes why did we bother fast.

I sent teamhfsigs@... a request at 1pm NY time today. I'll give them a day or two to see if they can ship out the part. If not and your still willing then I'll pass the one I have to you if you want it.

Mike


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 3:52 PM Bo Barry <bobarr@...> wrote:
Sell me yours and order a new one. ? I don't want the Raduino or display. Bo W4GHV?


Re: Best way to unsolder the Nano?

Bo Barry
 

Yep! Heat it, blow hard, punch hole with a tapered punch, moving it so it doesn't get stuck.


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

No matter how you do it it will require hardware with my mods or no.

The easy solution is hard to implement as the places to put it are scarce
and they must be in the TX only path.

The most seemingly likely is two RV1 pots with a relay to select the one you want
and a button on the front panel to activate the relay during transmit.? Problem is
where to put the RF parts so there? aren't dragging wires all over and causing havoc.
The most obvious place is? near the edge next to K1. or as a flying PCB with a
relay, diode, two RV1s that drops into the old RV1 spot and two flying wires for
switching.? Lots of assumptions for space to place things.? Using a tiny relay helps.

Allison


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Mike aka KC2WVB
 

Thanks, I will talk to Bo about this. The email address listed on the help page is an error too. The address that reaches them is: teamhfsigs@...


On Wed, May 23, 2018, 12:50 PM Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
I kind of thought there was a buy option, and that maybe it was removed when they redid the website for the uBitx.
Special address is in the second paragraph here:??

I think you should ask Bo first.
He wants a uBitx without a Raduino.
A match made in heaven.

If the rig really did arrive non-functional and this was not some miswire issue,?hfsignals should at least be told

Jerry

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 09:20 am, Mike aka KC2WVB wrote:
Thanks Jerry. I did not see a click to order button on HF Signals web page nor did I see an email address for special orders like this. Did I miss what is there or did their page change?
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Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X

 

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Hello Kees

As I understand it for France and for 1 kit each pay $ 14 port. But what is the price for both kits?

Please help me.

Gilles F1BFU


Le 23 mai 2018 ¨¤ 21:53, Kees T <windy10605@...> a ¨¦crit :

OK, the pass 2 boards have arrived, they look good so, let er' rip.

Ordering instructions are in the attachment and a copy is in the Files section under my call. Not sure how all this is going to work out due to the qtys ....let's see.?

Please remember I'm still only one retired guy sitting at one table.

73 Kees K5BCQ
<Ordering Instructions for the AGC and Click Mini Kits.doc>


Re: share your BITX success stories

Bo Barry
 

I was referred to the audio input to the rig from the usb sound card from a PC.
I found spurious signals doing FT8, and reduced the audio (and resulting output power) to reduce them.
I'm gonna meter it somehow to keep it optimum.

Tnx input! Bo


Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X

 

OK, the pass 2 boards have arrived, they look good so, let er' rip.

Ordering instructions are in the attachment and a copy is in the Files section under my call. Not sure how all this is going to work out due to the qtys ....let's see.

Please remember I'm still only one retired guy sitting at one table.

73 Kees K5BCQ


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

Bo Barry
 

Sell me yours and order a new one. ? I don't want the Raduino or display. Bo W4GHV?


Re: Raduino CAD Files

 

Curious.? According to section 4.3 page 27 of that document, the debugger burned into ROM supports:
? ? USART? (or UART),? USB,? I2C,? SPI,? and? CAN

I know the UART can be spoken to directly from the Arduino.
Not sure about the other options.

UART is probably fast enough for most of us at 57600 baud.
Even if you have 512kbytes of flash to load, that's still only 512*1024*10/57600 = 91 seconds.
That's just the raw UART transfer times, protocol used and waiting for flash to program will extend that best case time.
I'll stick with my UART.

Jerry


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 08:27 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
2) Use the UART debugger permanently burned into processor ROM by ST at the factory.
? ??
It's always present, is ROM not flash in that it can't be erased.? Probably supported by ST processors only.
I prefer this method, as I find a UART easy and familiar and I already have the hardware:
? ??
A description of that cp2102? ?USB-to-UART adapter is in post 50027, there are plenty of other such devices.?
If things don't work, can first debug that USB-to-UART adapter by tying TXD to RXD for loopback mode,
and try talking to it from something like a VT100? terminal emulation program.? If anybody still knows what that is.


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:56 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
Or zero pots.? How's that for oversimplifying it?
at least I didn't suggest two separate radios with an antenna switch...
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Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X

 

Please put me down for 3 AGC and 3 pop kits please.

73 de Jacob AG7CT


Re: toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

Or zero pots.? How's that for oversimplifying it?
Use this feature from Ian's post, firmware changes only to control transmit gain:
From? ?/g/BITX20/message/50144
? ? 2.ATT function has been added to reduce RF gain (Shift 45Mhz IF)

Courtesy of VK2ETA:
? ??/g/BITX20/message/46235
? ??/g/BITX20/message/46241

Another possibility:? A bunch of resistors in your antenna line to give a 3dB attenuator.

But your extra pots or front panel RF control could also be made to work, use coax.
I'd say that's way too complicated.? ;-)

Jerry, KE7ER



On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:41 am, Doug W wrote:
I have a feeling I am oversimplifying this.? It looks like Allison is getting closer to figuring out how to flatten the power output across all bands.? That is very exciting and a huge improvement.? However, it got me thinking.? Right now I am getting a little over 9w on 80m and about 8w on 40m.? Lately I have been spending time on 30m and 20m digital which both have an output under 5w keeping me in legit QRP range.? Let's assume Allison's project works and she shares it and I can figure it out.? To pick an arbitrary number let's also assume that my rig as an example post mod puts out a fairly even 9w across all bands.? That keeps us QRP for voice but not CW or data.? If I wanted to be able to switch back and forth is it feasible to connect two bias pots with a toggle switch and adjust one trimmer for 5w and one trimmer for 9w output?? For that matter what about 3 pots on a selector switch setting one more at 1w to drive an external amp?? As I ramble I wonder if you could also just bring the pot to the front panel and figure out a power meter but I like the idea of a set it and forget it switch.? Would this work or am I just exposing the gaps in my understanding?


toggle for low output and max output? #ubitx

 

I have a feeling I am oversimplifying this.? It looks like Allison is getting closer to figuring out how to flatten the power output across all bands.? That is very exciting and a huge improvement.? However, it got me thinking.? Right now I am getting a little over 9w on 80m and about 8w on 40m.? Lately I have been spending time on 30m and 20m digital which both have an output under 5w keeping me in legit QRP range.? Let's assume Allison's project works and she shares it and I can figure it out.? To pick an arbitrary number let's also assume that my rig as an example post mod puts out a fairly even 9w across all bands.? That keeps us QRP for voice but not CW or data.? If I wanted to be able to switch back and forth is it feasible to connect two bias pots with a toggle switch and adjust one trimmer for 5w and one trimmer for 9w output?? For that matter what about 3 pots on a selector switch setting one more at 1w to drive an external amp?? As I ramble I wonder if you could also just bring the pot to the front panel and figure out a power meter but I like the idea of a set it and forget it switch.? Would this work or am I just exposing the gaps in my understanding?


Re: Raduino CAD Files

 

Teensy is good to, Paul does an incredible job supporting his products.
I have one, have played with it some, very nice.
About to dig it out, need to set it up as a frequency counter to help with those Nano resonator birdies.

I was looking at the mkrzero in part because if building something in volume
with the chip directly on my board, I'd much prefer to have the processor
in an LQFP rather than a BGA.

A correction for my previous post:

< But any libraries have not.
> But many libraries have not.

Jerry



On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:22 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
If you are happy with ArduinoLand and prefer to stay,
this guy would be a very good choice in an ARM processor:
? ??
That's an Atmel processor, not ST.
Sold by the Arduino people, fully supported by the IDE.
Though I'm sure there are some Arduino libraries cooked up by others that haven't been ported.


Re: Raduino CAD Files

 

Yes, Roger Clark is your go-to guy for anything Blue Pill.

Arduino libraries were coded originally for the ATMega processors from Atmel.
The basic libraries have been ported to the Blue Pill and similar, mostly by Roger.
But any libraries have not.

Generally, EEPROM is not on those processors.
So an EEPROM library for an ARM chip would probably fake it by using flash.
Much slower on writes, but in most cases it works.

If you are happy with ArduinoLand and prefer to stay,
this guy would be a very good choice in an ARM processor:
? ??
That's an Atmel processor, not ST.
Sold by the Arduino people, fully supported by the IDE.
Though I'm sure there are some Arduino libraries cooked up by others that haven't been ported.

I like the STM32F line of processors,?
A family of parts available in pin compatible 48 and 64 pin LQFP's,
from sub-Nano at sub-buck prices to almost Teensy killers (M4 with floating point hardware).
That ultra low power STM32L line of processors mentioned in post 50037 is also pin compatible.

STM32L151xC STM32L152xC Ul



Jerry



On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:13 am, Allen Merrell wrote:
Jerry
Lol, I agree . Yesterday was the first time I had played with the blue pill in about 2 years. I had to relearn again. I find myself using STLINK ?v2 ?most of the time. I have used the other methods including using a Discovery F4 board to do it with which envolves ?using stlink program and hex ?file , works fine but a problem to set up. Yes and don't ?forget moving the jumper on boot 0 . All I have ever got to load and run on it are simple programs never been able to get anything as complex as the uBitx firmware. I seem to be missing some of the needed files for the stm that are already in their for the Arduino . ?I did see where one of the stm people was doing some rewrite ?on some of it especially the EEPROM ?which was something I always had errors ?in. This is why the blue pills I have have not been touched in 2 years. This thing does have some serious ?potential ?and a very good price. I know someone here on this site will get this thing up and going. ?Roger Clark has some very good information ?on it.
73's ?kn4ud
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Allen ?Merrell


Re: RF power chain mods and improvements..

 

Allison,
If I'm looking at the correct parts, it looks like those 4 transistors would cost about $10 USD total when purchased in single quantities. That's really not that big of an investment into a fine little radio.

I appreciate all your hard work!

Regards,
Mike M.
KU4QO

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 11:35 AM, ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...> wrote:
so far my results confirm that using
2n2369 for Q90, and the pre-driver one 2n3866,? and driver two 2n3866.? ?

<snip>?
Now I wait for lower cost parts.


Allison
_._,_._,_



Re: Raduino CAD Files

 

Jerry
Lol, I agree . Yesterday was the first time I had played with the blue pill in about 2 years. I had to relearn again. I find myself using STLINK ?v2 ?most of the time. I have used the other methods including using a Discovery F4 board to do it with which envolves ?using stlink program and hex ?file , works fine but a problem to set up. Yes and don't ?forget moving the jumper on boot 0 . All I have ever got to load and run on it are simple programs never been able to get anything as complex as the uBitx firmware. I seem to be missing some of the needed files for the stm that are already in their for the Arduino . ?I did see where one of the stm people was doing some rewrite ?on some of it especially the EEPROM ?which was something I always had errors ?in. This is why the blue pills I have have not been touched in 2 years. This thing does have some serious ?potential ?and a very good price. I know someone here on this site will get this thing up and going. ?Roger Clark has some very good information ?on it.
73's ?kn4ud
--
Allen ?Merrell


Re: W8TEE source code

Rod Davis
 

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Jack,

the ambiguous "it" was the teensy that runs the filters and mic processing code
in the uBITX. I am imagining leaving the Nano in there for basic ops, and using
the Teensy for augmented features.

I have not thought out a user interface. I like the idea of an independent teensy,
as I could use those new features in other rigs.

Rod



On 05/23/2018 09:27 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:

Rod:

It is Open Source. Google "mic compressor" and see if our speech compressor doesn't do what you're thinking about. When you say "it", what is the "it" you're referring to?

Jack, W8TEE

On Wednesday, May 23, 2018, 12:24:01 PM EDT, Rod Davis <km6sn@...> wrote:


Hi Jack,

For my uBITX:

I have not been following the threads closely: is your software GPL open source?

I would like to just implement the rx filters.

I would also like to implement a mic high pass filter, followed by clipping, followed by a low pass
filter to remove the clipping residue. I have heard that gives some pretty good readability.

I am not so sure about mic compressing.

However, that introduces the issue of how to control it without an additional USB cable.


Regards,

Rod KM6SN




Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X

 

Could you please put me down for 2 of each board.
Ross
vk3ucr


Re: Raduino replacement #bitx20

 

I kind of thought there was a buy option, and that maybe it was removed when they redid the website for the uBitx.
Special address is in the second paragraph here:??

I think you should ask Bo first.
He wants a uBitx without a Raduino.
A match made in heaven.

If the rig really did arrive non-functional and this was not some miswire issue,?hfsignals should at least be told

Jerry


On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 09:20 am, Mike aka KC2WVB wrote:
Thanks Jerry. I did not see a click to order button on HF Signals web page nor did I see an email address for special orders like this. Did I miss what is there or did their page change?
. . .