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Re: A friendly suggestion for Farhan.
There seems to be many amplifiers on ebay that put out about 70 watts for around $ 25 to $ 50.? Those are just circuit boards with parts mounted or kits. No filtering that you would have to add and a TX/RX switch and box to put it in. Going much about 10 watts would seem to knock it out of the portable weight limit .? I was talking with some friends on 80 meters this morning and using the 16 watts I get out (after the transistor mods) to drive a Drake L4B amp to somewhat over 150 watts out and getting good reports. I am glad this rig is on the market as is.? Gives me a chance to make some modifications and my main goal is to use it with some transverters that need about 5 to 15 watts of drive depending on which one I use. I am not much for designing things, but do enjoy playing around with others ideas. de KU4PT On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 11:30 AM, ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...> wrote: One possible solution for those that want power.... |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
Vince Vielhaber
On 05/16/2018 10:55 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:05:16 -0400When the hardware changes, it'll be something else. Think back to the B40. The only hardware changes were the ones the users made and until v2.0 of Allard's firmware, the original never changed. It wouldn't have mattered what was shipped with the radio, the hardware was/is the same - still... even today. When the hardware finally did change it wasn't a BitX40, it was a uBitx and came with a new Raduino and the B40 remained with all of that same old firmware still working. Now I'm pretty much done with this conversation. You seem to be arguing just to argue and I have better things to do. Vince. -- Michigan VHF Corp. |
Re: uBitx
I purchased the NJM2037 from Mouser. It's worked fine for me.
tim ab0wr On Tue, 15 May 2018 21:01:23 -0700 "Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io" <jgaffke@...> wrote: Mouser sells the NJM2073D, I'd recommend that. |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
Other options for Tim is to document his code and place it on the reflector "files" section. Users that want to use it can fetch the source and include it in their code.
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Or Tim you can post your whole sketch like Ian and I do so people can load your sketch and try it. rOn On May 16, 2018 at 11:36 AM Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote: |
Re: uBitx Opto Coupler / VFO not working
#ubitx-help
#ubitx
Red should be positive +5v while the yellow should be ground. I suspect
you had your voltmeter leads backwards. It's a good indication that you have 5v however. Does your multimeter have a resistance scale? Can you measure the resistance across the encoder pins 4 and 5 with the encoder pushed in? It should read Zero ohms. tim ab0wr On Tue, 15 May 2018 19:53:01 -0700 "kj6etl" <pa1zz@...> wrote: Update I measured between the red and yellow wire on the arduino a |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
Vince Vielhaber
On 05/16/2018 10:28 AM, Tim Gorman wrote:
Jack,If your software depends on the CW code getting compiled in, then it's your responsibility to test for, or make sure it's compiled in. #ifdef TIMSCODE # ifndef CODETIMDEPENDSON # warning "You turned off something I need" # else TIMS CODE GOES HERE ... # endif #endif If you want the compile to stop right there instead of just throwing the warning, change #warning to #error Vince. -- Michigan VHF Corp. |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
My last post as this is beaten to death already...... 1. Keep base software. 2. Fix tuning - add freq increments or make accelerated tuning work. 3. Remove the resistor network kludge on the cw line and use the spare Analog pin. ??? More discussion has been on getting the voltages correct. So eliminate the whole ??? mess for the new buyers. rOn On May 16, 2018 at 11:16 AM Tim Gorman wrote: |
Re: A friendly suggestion for Farhan.
One possible solution for those that want power....
Whats funny is I have built many QRP radios, I mean something over 10 of them all SSB. Generally if the 3-5W didn't do it then 100 might have.? At one point I decided an amp was a solution so I built it and it works well, though rarely use it.? Why, I find I make contacts at?lower power and when I cannot 100W isn't enough.?? One thing building an amp that works and doesn't fry everytime you look at it is on face trivial. At the same time its about as non trivial as one can get.? A good amp is a mechanical project as you are managing heat and sometimes much more than guessed. The next possible increment up is not 20W: If your inclined look in the files area of this forum under KB1GMX, there are two files called HF-use-Fet 1 and 2.? Its fairly simple and if built well its a solid amp.? Pay attention to the mechanical build.? Its a 1-2 watts in for more than 40-50 out amp for all HF using two IRF510s. I didn't design it but I can say that if you build it soldering and mechanical construction has to be 100% and there are the tribal tricks not written up that need to be known.? An aside if you cannot cut aluminum pieces and drill and tap holes your already on the short side? skills required.? ?To farm out machine shop work is expensive even in bulk. The path to 100W is not cheap: The better transistors path.? RD16HHF 4.75$ each from RF parts.? Its a 12V 20W device and K5BCQ has gotten as much as can be done with those(20W near flat from 160 to 6).? The next step up?is RF70HHF or 2SC2879 both types you need a pair (about 60$us) and do about 100W and after all the other parts and materials expect to spend about 150$ or more plus all the mechanical work required.? A pair of tubes can do this easy and then? your looking for 900V power supply and high voltage components with the safety? risks. My suggestion, likely the less expensive route: Build a better antenna.? Less expensive and you will hear stations better.? Use a full size dipole at least a half wave length high (or higher) for example 20M for the 40M band.? ?A wire beam for 20M?can be a considerable equalizer.? A bit of wood, wire and rope.? I happen to like the VE7CA tribander (20/15/10M).? ?A wire beam for 40m is not out of the question, the group I hang with does both of those for field day. Allison |
Re: Core for Output Transformer
I have made the modifications using the RD16HHF1 devices and the BN43-202 core.? I did not see what? type of wire to use. I used some # 24 solid wire with a plastic like coating on it.? Getting? about 17 watts out at 3.8 MHz and 7 watts out at 29 MHz in the CW mode with 13.8 volts, but that seems to drop to? 13 volts due to the loss of an inline fuse and power connector when transmitting. The only other small wire I have around is some # 26 enamel covered and some # 24 Cat 5 cable I could strip for wire.?? Would I get better output if I changed to either of those wires, and if so , which one.? On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:36 AM, K9HZ <bill@...> wrote:
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Re: Core for Output Transformer
In my simulation I was driving the gates from a 50 ohm source through a 1-to-1 transformer.
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? ??/g/BITX20/files/KE7ER/WA2EBYandUBITX.pdf As I recall, the voltage across the 50 ohm source resistance was half of the RF voltage source when? simulating at 7mhz, suggesting the IRF510's plus the two 47 ohm resistors were presenting a load of around 50 ohms to the transformer.? The voltage and current were in phase going thorough that source resistance.? ?The two 47 ohm resistors should present a 94 ohm load to the transformer, so perhaps the gates were presenting an additional 50 ohms or so?? At 30mhz, the load presented to the transformer was more like 12 ohms, but curiously enough the voltage and current through the source resistance were still in phase. I assume the change is due mostly to the miller capacitance of the FET's, though I find it puzzling there wasn't a significant phase shift between voltage and current at the 50 ohm source.resistance. Bill is correct, at 30mhz the IRF510's need more drive than some of the other parts when operating at 30mhz. Raising the supply voltage to the IRF510's will increase power on the lower bands, but not so much at 30mhz were we are limited by the power available from the $0.03 2n3904's used as drivers. Allison's suggestion of replacing the 2n3904's seems a good path, with that and some combination of the C's and L's suggested here recently to smooth out the power vs frequency curve,? we may get?a final that performs more or less evenly from 3.5-30mhz. Be aware, this is not my strong suit, I am not much good at getting RF amps to behave. And I did that simulation several months ago, some of the details may have gotten mushy? at the edges since then.? Others may see errors in what I report above.? Jerry, KE7ER On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 11:01 pm, Glenn wrote:
Jerry, does does that IRF impedance compare to the gate loading resistors? I assume the gate loading is dominant? |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
Well said.
tim ab0wr On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:31:17 -0400 "atouk" <atouk@...> wrote: The supplied software only needs to be enough for the new ham to put |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
On Tue, 15 May 2018 22:07:50 -0500
"K9HZ" <bill@...> wrote: Again Support? You think the uBITx is supported?Really? So you think Ashhar will put out a ubitx in the future with enhanced circuitry AND NO ASSOCIATED SOFTWARE TO USE IT? You have a funny idea of what support actually is. That would be like selling a new Ford without the computer installed! Let the buyer figure out what computer to buy and how to install it and tune it! tim ab0wr |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
On Wed, 16 May 2018 01:14:34 -0400
"D. Daniel McGlothin KB3MUN" <kb3mun@...> wrote: Then why did you say: "As to the "CW support for TUNE" issue being discussed, in circumstances like this, I would simply make the conditonal compilation guides make the dependency clear--so no real bother at all:" How will this make my software work with other software that doesn't have conditional compiles? Then you are not understanding the fact that you either have to take into consideration *all* possibilities that can be generated from software with conditional compiles in order to keep your modifications workable in all cases or you have to duplicate all needed functionality in your own software. If the standard load becomes a load that is full of conditional compiles and is so complicated that it is difficult to even add a menu item then it *does* matter what the factor load is. This seems to be the point that others are making for you too. You doSure I do. If I have to take conditional compiles into consideration for one particular source but I don't have to take conditional compiles into consideration in a different source then I *have* been forced to base my software of the particular source I choose to modify. ? Once you make the decision to make the uBITX softwareBut if I am trying to make a useful contribution to the community at large then I want to minimize the number of different options I have to code for. That's what I'm going to do. But if I only code for my own use and everyone else does the same then how does the community at large progress? In any case, I'll be happy to assist with software questions (from aThe only viewpoint that I reject is that the ubitx should become a retail offering where you have to be at least a coder of intermediate capability to play with the software. For once the simple software load is abandoned its upkeep *will* be abandoned as well. That's just how things work. tim ab0wr |
Re: uBitx Opto Coupler / VFO not working
#ubitx-help
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KJ6ETL Interesting that you measured a negative voltage on the red and yellow wires.? There is no negative voltage supplied to the Raduino board.? Did you have the voltmeter connected backwards?? Arv? K7HKL _._ On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 8:53 PM, kj6etl <pa1zz@...> wrote: Update I measured between the red and yellow wire on the arduino a NEGATIVE -5Volts |
Re: ND6T AGC implementation for uBIT-X
Yes, Nick, that's the spot....between where you have your HPF and the relays. Nice short leads for the RF. I'll upload the new board later today. You would plug it in with components towards C210 and could install the 1"x1" board with components down, board parallel to the uBITX board, and over R43.? It also provides points to be wired over to a RF Gain potentiometer.
73 Kees K5BCQ |
Re: A friendly suggestion for Farhan.
The uBITX, like all the BITX and BITX-clone transceivers is first and foremost a QRP rig.? Others have already mentioned its use as a learning platform, and the number of contacts they have made with it.? Working QRP is part of the challenge.? While it is easy to make contacts with most 50W to 2KW (and above) rigs, the real challenge of good operating technique and knowledgeable use of propagation lies in use of no more power than is really necessary to get the job done. This is what separates the QRO operators who rely on brute force from the QRP operators who rely on skill, technique, and sometimes a bit of luck. Complaints about a particular transceiver have more validity if the complainant actually owns and uses the particular equipment.? If you don't own one, then what are you complaining about? Arv? K7HKL _._ On Tue, May 15, 2018 at 9:34 PM, John Smith via Groups.Io <johnlinux77@...> wrote: While observing, I have come to believe that the uBITX is a bit of a dud when it comes to power output on most bands, and CW which it is designed for. Too much hacking is required to make it usable, or worth the price. I would like to suggest the idea of individual band transceivers, with specially designed power amplifiers and band filters so a 10 meter BITX works as well as a 80 meter BITX. The Raduino code can be easily adjusted for each band the transceiver is made for, and remains familiar. I realize this would require retooling the factory a bit. But I do recall seeing old connections and silk screening on my BITX 40 where changes have been made. Perhaps some models could have options to populate the board with different filter configurations and finals too. I know you can't get everything on the same board, but maybe some could be dual band for ease of manufacture, or just popularity of use. I would love a BITX 80 or BITX 20 that could put out as much as 25 watts like my BITX 40. And with Allards code and minimal hardware upgrade the CW is wonderful and useful for digital modes too. I don't really mean to poop on your uBITX, but I don't want one at that price. But a $59.00 mono band, or $75.00 dual band transceiver that works well, sounds pretty good to me. Thanks for taking the time to read my opinion. |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
On Tue, 15 May 2018 23:05:16 -0400
"Vince Vielhaber" <vev@...> wrote: Why not just load it yourself then? You'll have to reload it afterBecause I want a working unit to be delivered that is based on software I can build on without becoming a professional programmer. Not by any stretch of the imagination. The more limited code isOnce Ashhar moves to a new standard load how long will the old standard be maintained by Ashhar. Especially if added hardware functionality comes out? Or does the old standard software just gradually become unworkable? I'm not jumping to any conclusions. You're trying to prevent a moreBecause if I started out trying to figure out Ian's software as a beginning programmer I'm not sure I would have bothered. Jack seems to think that the goal of everyone should be to become a professional programmer like Ian and himself if they want to experiment with the ubitx software. Many of us just want to be able to use the software as a facilitator along the path. Beginning mountain climbers don't start out climbing Mt. Everest. If the goal is to make the standard the most comprehensive, complicated software possible then count me out of further experimentation. I'll just take what I have, put it in the go box, and use it when the need arises. Of course it matters. If the standard keeps getting more and more complicated then it *certainly* matters to beginners. The radio doesn't come with a cd containingSo what? What do you download to modify when it is no longer workable because of changes to the hardware? If I order another ubitx a year from now and it is based on hew hardware and a tremendously complicated standard software load then what good does the old, simple software do me? What good will it do a high school sophomore with his new ham license trying to learn programming by forcing him to work with the most complicated software instead of the simplest software? tim ab0wr |
Re: Should we adopt the KD8CEC firmware?
Tim,
When you say That leaves two options available.below, you create a "false dilemma" ( ). There are at least THREE (3) options, a third has already been suggested that will address your concern. Again, should you wish help with programming, ask.? I expect I'll not be replying further to this argument. Daniel KB3MUN On 5/16/2018 10:28, Tim Gorman wrote: Jack, |
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