Jerry:

I realize the power the Pi has and I'm familiar with compiler design and grammars, as my old software company built and marketed its own C compiler for DOS back in '80s...without yacc! Al and I have been through a pretty rigorous ?C decision process for our Jackal project, looking at Pi, Mega2560, Due, Mega Zero, and the new Protoneer board to replace the Raduino/Nano board. We settled on the Teensy 3.6. One of our goals is to encourage hacking by those who are already familiar with the ?BITX, and that suggested sicking with a processor that could run in the Arduino IDE. The Teensy 3.6 has

• 180 MHz ARM Cortex-M4 with Floating Point Unit
• 1M Flash, 256K RAM, 4K EEPROM
• Microcontroller Chip (PDF link)
• USB High Speed (480 Mbit/sec) Port
• 2 CAN Bus Ports
• 32 General Purpose DMA Channels
• 22 PWM Outputs
• 4 I2C Ports
• 11 Touch Sensing Inputs

and costs a little less than the Pi. The FPU is important in many SDR's that use FFT algorithms, and the Teensy has a very good FFT library. It also has a terrific audio library that we are using in our filter elements. However, to me, the critical elements were that the 256K of SRAM removes the real bottleneck of the Arduino family and there are a host of relevant libraries for the processor. Atmel needs to get its act together and boost its processor resource base if it wants to stay competitive. (I taught an assembler course on a Z80 back in the '80s and, you're right, the 328 reminds me of it although the memory architecture's a little different.)

Anyway, we experimented with Pi and other processors for over a month before we committed Jackal to the Teensy. We made the right choice for us. Al and I will be showing Jackal at the FDIM conference...I think it's pretty cool and brings a lot to the table. That's not to say that someone shouldn't give Pi a try as a Raduino replacement. It's just not for us.

Jack, W8TEE

On Monday, April 23, 2018, 12:24:48 AM EDT, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote:

The ATMega328P on the Nano runs at 16 MHz, has 0.002 MBytes of RAM, is an 8 bit machine.

The RPi Zero runs at a 1000 MHz, has 512 MBytes of RAM, is a full a 32 bit machine,
runs linux if you wish.? Not only will it run the C and C++ code we have on the Arduino
(if you port the Arduino libraries), but it has its own compiler for it.
And a compiler compiler to build the compiler with for that matter (yacc).?

>? I'd consider why the Zero sells for $5.

It sells for $5 because it is of the current decade.
Whereas the ATMega382P is roughly in league with the Z80
I was working with back in the 1970's.
?
That said, the Nano is a fine choice for the basic uBitx.
Not all that much it has to do.

The RPi Nano would be good if you wish to implement standalone SDR,?
with a full waterfall display out to an HDMI monitor.
Or could be used as the Arduino IDE host when programming your Nano.
The top end Rasberry Pi 3 B+ does everything I'd want in a home computer for $35.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Sun, Apr 22, 2018 at 06:17 pm, Jack Purdum wrote:

I'd consider why the Zero sells for $5. I think the biggest issue is that the Pi is a different animal than the Arduino family. First, it does not have a home in the Arduino IDE, where most of the ?BITX work is being done. Second, it doesn't have the depth of add-ons that the Arduinos do. Those that do exist seem to be more expensive. Third, most of the work on Pi is either done in scripting languages or Python, neither of which is popular on the Arduino.

If you need more horsepower, consider the Protoneer (eBay 282786290858). It has 256K of flash, 32K of SRAM (HUGE benefit), and is clocked 3x faster than the Nano at a cost of $15. It looks very promising.

Jack, W8TEE

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?

No way should anyone hate anything.? It may be an eye opener to some what can be done with a modern micro-controller.? I am glad Jack gave honorable mention to the Protoneer.? Before I ordered it last week, I came up with zero hits for Protoneer here. Thought I might be a little crazy since very sharp minds are active and voicing their opinions.? I hate to see great? software work by Ian and others be limited to choices based on the flash memory space of the Arduino Nano, which is also consumed by the boot loader.? The idea is this may help those that want a lower end "modern" 32 bit digital solution with a reasonable amount of SRAM for their uBITX with a small $ additional investment.? Even the Pi fans might find a need for a little more horsepower in the micro-controller.? Then again, I could be blown away by a pure Pi controller implementation.

I don't think any of us want to someone else to become a drooler, well at least I hope not.? From what I see here, it is enabling.? Sharing knowledge.? Albeit overwhelming at times.
The dust will eventually settle from the excitement stampede unleashed by Farhan, and the path you choose will become clear.? Hopefully everyone will choose to ride along, and the world wide amateur community benefit from your participation.

?

Im not sure you understand this completely, so ill put this more clearly. When the main sketch has the same name from version to version and you upload it to the Arduino IDE, it over-writes the previous version because it has the SAME NAME. ?Of you were to include the version number in the program name, they would not over-write.?

William

?

I use git for version control, but it seems to be difficult to trace history when the file name changes.

Instead, I will create a separate file to keep track of which files have changed each time I deploy.

All filenames are now cleaned up.

Since Version 1.070, there was work such as splitting and merging files to support various hardware.

?

I will publish Version 1.073 (Beta) within a day.

Thank you for testing the firmware.

?

Ian KD8CEC

?

2018-04-24 9:31 GMT+09:00 K9HZ <bill@...>:

Ian... would you PLEASE consider writing the version number in the file name of the code?? That way different versions can be saved easily in the Arduino ISD.?

?

Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

?

email:??bill@...

?

On Apr 22, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lee <kd8cec@...> wrote:

Rod, All

?

I am always thanking Rod.

And I'm sorry to interrupt Rod's work with too many changes in functionality.

?

1.072 will be tested and will be released as 1.073 Beta.

Several minor ones have been added.

Please wait for a day or two to download the code or firmware.?

?

Perhaps 1.07x will continue to be a Beta version.
Frequent formal firmware release seems to be inconvenient for some people, so I try to release it after various tests.

?

I think Version 1.061 is a stable version.?I know there is some nice firmware based on Version 1.061 and I will install it on my Spare uBITX.

Version 1.061 and later versions are also based on Version 1.061.

The Portable version and the various language versions are all excellent Firmware and I share code with them.

?

Please wait for a day or two?, I'll release version 1.073 beta after testing in various environments (including Linux).

?

Thank you

?

Ian KD8CEC

?

2018-04-22 7:25 GMT+09:00 Rod Davis <km6sn@...>:

Hi All,

Ron, W7HD, points out that downloading the KD8CEC 1.072 can be a problem

because version 1.072 does not appear in the list.

?

It is necessary to click on the Branch button, then use your mouse wheel to

scroll down until the version1.072 is revealed.

?

Best to All,

Rod KM6SN

?

?

See below for an excerpt:

Download the CECFW source code from github

For this example we will be using version 1.072.

?

<Image4>

Click the “Branch” button to select version 1.072, then click “Clone or download” and click “Download ZIP”. Unzip the downloaded file and make a note of the folder location, or move the unzipped directory into your arduino sketch folder.

?

?

--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)

?

--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)

So far I received 10 requests for parts as of now. I have mailed out today 7, the remaining 3 will be in the mail tomorrow. I expect the results to vary, because it if transistor dependent. Please let us know how it works for you.
Also, thanks for sending me the QRP sticker. Some sent me money, which is a nice thought, but completely unnecessary. I have these 2 reels of parts, with 1000s of parts on each left over from an old business. The parts are 20 years old, so they have no resale value. I'm just happy they are being put to good use.
I am working on some other changes, AGC and S meter. The AGC works well, but the S meter, not so well, so I need to work more on that. I will post the work when I finish. After that I will work on the 70 watt amp, which I mentioned before, and probably a preamp.

Howard



On 4/20/2018 7:14 PM, Chris Clarke wrote:

Howard

I don't normally do SMD but this sounds like a good idea ... I'll need to order some for this side of the pond, but which physical SMD sizes are these components?

73 Chris
G3SQU

Yep, every one is different and, man, are you gonna hate the Jackal board:

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Jack, W8TEE

On Monday, April 23, 2018, 9:32:56 PM EDT, Kees T <windy10605@...> wrote:

Jack,

I agree that there are many people standing on Farhan's shoulders and he has certainly created/generated a huge interest in his uBIT-X design point..... key parameters being that the cost is being held low for a simple design to allow more people to try modifications if they want to ......AND he's allowing others to start small businesses and learn skills. I think the latter, in itself, is great.?

Message counts of ~2000 per month definitely indicate a huge interest.

My point was that there are many steps in the progression from the uBIT-X that arrived in the mailbox, TO one that has slight modifications, TO more comprehensive AGC hardware, audio amps, etc, TO SWR indications, 4 line displays, more keyer features,
TO DSP and other SW defined modes, RPi, Teensy 3.5/3.6, large touch screens, etc ......you get the idea. Many options. The point is that you can take the path and get off at any step. I personally want to go as far as I feel makes sense to me (staying with the Nano or an Arduino based derivative and basically "Keeping It Simple") with a result that I think I can reach, and a Transceiver I will/can use. Some of the guys that want to Hack-to-the- Max ....more power to them but the number of followers will drop off pretty quickly and I for one will become a (maybe) drooler, not a follower.? ?

73 Kees K5BCQ

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William

I use git for version control, but it seems to be difficult to trace history when the file name changes.

Instead, I will create a separate file to keep track of which files have changed each time I deploy.

All filenames are now cleaned up.

Since Version 1.070, there was work such as splitting and merging files to support various hardware.

I will publish Version 1.073 (Beta) within a day.

Thank you for testing the firmware.

Ian KD8CEC

2018-04-24 9:31 GMT+09:00 K9HZ <bill@...>:

Ian... would you PLEASE consider writing the version number in the file name of the code?? That way different versions can be saved easily in the Arduino ISD.?

Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

email:??bill@...

?

On Apr 22, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lee <kd8cec@...> wrote:

Rod, All

I am always thanking Rod.

And I'm sorry to interrupt Rod's work with too many changes in functionality.

1.072 will be tested and will be released as 1.073 Beta.

Several minor ones have been added.

Please wait for a day or two to download the code or firmware.?

Perhaps 1.07x will continue to be a Beta version.
Frequent formal firmware release seems to be inconvenient for some people, so I try to release it after various tests.

I think Version 1.061 is a stable version.?I know there is some nice firmware based on Version 1.061 and I will install it on my Spare uBITX.

Version 1.061 and later versions are also based on Version 1.061.

The Portable version and the various language versions are all excellent Firmware and I share code with them.

Please wait for a day or two?, I'll release version 1.073 beta after testing in various environments (including Linux).

Thank you

Ian KD8CEC

2018-04-22 7:25 GMT+09:00 Rod Davis <km6sn@...>:

Hi All,

Ron, W7HD, points out that downloading the KD8CEC 1.072 can be a problem

because version 1.072 does not appear in the list.

It is necessary to click on the Branch button, then use your mouse wheel to

scroll down until the version1.072 is revealed.

Best to All,

Rod KM6SN

See below for an excerpt:

Download the CECFW source code from github

For this example we will be using version 1.072.

<Image4>

Click the “Branch” button to select version 1.072, then click “Clone or download” and click “Download ZIP”. Unzip the downloaded file and make a note of the folder location, or move the unzipped directory into your arduino sketch folder.

--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)

--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)

I've modified many 20a's using the directions on my web page. The key is the varactor. I would guess that the one you have doesn't give a 400 pfd variation in capacitance.with an 8n 0r 9 volt variation. What is the varactor diode that you are using? I have used the NTE618 and it has a capacitance range of 20pfd at 8 volts and 420pfd at 1.2 volts. Also acceptable is a MVAM108 or MVAM109 Let me know what you are using. Send me your email address to kc0wox@... and I'll get back to you by email.
Leonard
kc0wox

On Apr 23, 2018, at 9:54 PM, John Backo <jabac@...> wrote:

In varactor tuning, your goal is to maximize the capacitance
variance from one end to the other.

Therefore, the real questions are two: what varactor is
being used, and what is the voltage range it is operating
under.
Note that most datasheets show varactor variance at
best linearity and maximum variance at a particular
voltage range, usually the lower end. So the first thing
is to determine the voltage range. Next, figure out a resistance
range that will exploit that. Usually, the voltage range is about
8v, and the full resistance range is about 10-15k.

It is a relatively simple matter to use 2 pots in series, one of
a higher value to set the frequency position, and one of a lower
range to fine tune. The only real advantage of a 10-turn pot is
to get better gross resolution, but a 10k and 1k regular linear
pot in series will accomplish about the same thing.

As to adding capacitance, that is what the varactor is doing.
It may be that more capacitance is needed to change the
base frequency of the VFO. Usually experimentation is
required, though a rough estimate can be made by figuring
out the total LC ratios. Where to add that capacitance
is another question: probably it will require some in the
main tank and some in the DC isolation of the varactor circuit.

For instance, I modified the VFO for the BITX20 v.3 as follows,
following the example of the BITX20A:

Q5 is a 2N3904; the two main VFO caps are 470 pF polystyrene.
The L4 coil is a T68-6 with 40t, measuring about 9 uH free-standing.
One of the secrets to a stable VFO was paralleling that coil with a
180 pF s.m capacitor. Main tuning is with a 365 pF variable cap,
in series with 2 parallel 220 pF caps, and then into the VFO circuit
of 5-45 pF range-finding cap in parallel with a 220 pF s.m. cap.
The basic tuning range is about 2.895 - 3.295 MHz. The original
test tuning range without the variable cap and a 220 pF in its place
was 2.95640 MHz to 2.965445 MHz (varying the 5-45 pF cap).

For fine tuning, I added a 78L08 regulator running to a 10-turn pot
with a 1K resistor to ground. That ran through a 200K resistor to
a MV2109 (to ground) and then to a 100 pF npo cap leading back
to the main oscillator. This gave a full range of about +/- 25 KHz for the fine
tuning.

So, in essence, the varicap mod added fine tuning. The main VFO
remained the principal tuning for the rig. It works well and is quite
stable.

The IF is 11.092 MHz, not the 10 MHz of the original BITX.

All of this information comes from my original pages of builder's
notes form Leonard's manual. I can publish the pages if you want,
but they are a bit hard to read if you didn't make them up originally.
The rig tunes from about 6.95 to 7.34 MHz.

Hope this helps.

john
AD5YE

I said almost the same thing a day or two ago...it has some really nice features, like a 12-bit ADC (4096 instead of 1024). Another important plus is that it can be programmed and run in the Arduino IDE.

Jack, W8TEE

On Monday, April 23, 2018, 7:01:53 PM EDT, Kees T <windy10605@...> wrote:

In keeping in line with Farhan's $100 goal for the Transceiver, I would seriously look at using the "Protoneer" mentioned by some others. It has the "Nano" form factor, is Arduino Zero based, runs at 3x the Nano speed, has 8x the Nano flash memory, 16x the Nano RAM, and has a DAC. Seems like that is a great opportunity to sweep in some open source code like that K3NG has for his keyer, other modes of operation, and many, many, more features over time. 256KB of flash memory is a LOT of available space. The Protoneer is $10 and you can get a group together to save on the $5 postage from NZ. I'm sure there are plenty of firmware writers out there.

73 Kees K5BCQ

William

I use git for version control, but it seems to be difficult to trace history when the file name changes.

Instead, I will create a separate file to keep track of which files have changed each time I deploy.

All filenames are now cleaned up.

Since Version 1.070, there was work such as splitting and merging files to support various hardware.

I will publish Version 1.073 (Beta) within a day.

Thank you for testing the firmware.

Ian KD8CEC

2018-04-24 9:31 GMT+09:00 K9HZ <bill@...>:

Ian... would you PLEASE consider writing the version number in the file name of the code?? That way different versions can be saved easily in the Arduino ISD.?

Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

email:??bill@...

?

On Apr 22, 2018, at 2:50 PM, Ian Lee <kd8cec@...> wrote:

Rod, All

I am always thanking Rod.

And I'm sorry to interrupt Rod's work with too many changes in functionality.

1.072 will be tested and will be released as 1.073 Beta.

Several minor ones have been added.

Please wait for a day or two to download the code or firmware.?

Perhaps 1.07x will continue to be a Beta version.
Frequent formal firmware release seems to be inconvenient for some people, so I try to release it after various tests.

I think Version 1.061 is a stable version.?I know there is some nice firmware based on Version 1.061 and I will install it on my Spare uBITX.

Version 1.061 and later versions are also based on Version 1.061.

The Portable version and the various language versions are all excellent Firmware and I share code with them.

Please wait for a day or two?, I'll release version 1.073 beta after testing in various environments (including Linux).

Thank you

Ian KD8CEC

2018-04-22 7:25 GMT+09:00 Rod Davis <km6sn@...>:

Hi All,

Ron, W7HD, points out that downloading the KD8CEC 1.072 can be a problem

because version 1.072 does not appear in the list.

It is necessary to click on the Branch button, then use your mouse wheel to

scroll down until the version1.072 is revealed.

Best to All,

Rod KM6SN

See below for an excerpt:

Download the CECFW source code from github

For this example we will be using version 1.072.

<Image4>

Click the “Branch” button to select version 1.072, then click “Clone or download” and click “Download ZIP”. Unzip the downloaded file and make a note of the folder location, or move the unzipped directory into your arduino sketch folder.

--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)

--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)