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Re: Micro-BITX ... Lost in post ? Possibly

 

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Red collection card in letterbox when I got home from work¡­now wheres the soldering iron?

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of philip yates
Sent: 11 January 2018 10:39
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Micro-BITX ... Lost in post ? Possibly

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And mine, just arrived

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Phil -G7BZD

Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Jan 2018, at 10:37, David Holland <g4ldt@...> wrote:

Mine arrived this morning with no updates on either India post or royal mail tracking sites!? Ordered on 9th December - In the notorious "bag" at Mumbai airport on the 15th.? So there is hope yet all you G stations waiting.? By the way my board is marked 71/1 whatever that means.

David G4LDT

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On 11/01/2018 08:56, Andy Robins wrote:

That's fine if you are not in the UK. But here using DHL will mean paying import charges of 20% plus about ?12 admin fee. I went with India Post and no additional charges were made. Just a warning to my fellow brits.?

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Virus-free.


pic of 2 extra resistors plus 4.7 k resistor

 

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Here is a picture of the three resistors that was included with my uBITX kit.
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Joe Mnson
WA4VAG


extra resistors included with uBITX kit or partrs

 

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I am just getting around to installing the Ubitx into a case.? I got it before Christmas.? In my package of parts were 3 resistors.???One, ?the required 4.7K.? But there were also a 2.2K with red paint on the wire leads and a 10K with black or dark purple paint on the wire leads.?? Any ideas as to what these two resistors could be for?
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Thanks for any help
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Joe Munson
WA4VAG


Re: Bitx40 Raduino convert to uBitx Raduino

 

The raduino is the same across all radios. Only the firmware is different

On 11 Jan 2018 7:18 am, "Sean W7SKD" <sean.jrdalys@...> wrote:
Should just need that header and a loadup of the uBitx20 software.? I have a standalone Raduino, a Bitx40v3 and a uBitx and the only difference I can see is the header and the software.


Re: Implement a uBITX Memory Manager Program

Pavel Milanes Costa
 

El 10/01/18 a las 18:43, Ian Lee escribi¨®:

These are things I did not know about Arduino. If I have a chance to learn Arduino later, I will study and programming again.
If I did not know about Arduino and made you feel confused by what I was talking about, I will be careful in the future.
Don't worry,

As you may noticed it's impossible to know everything about anything, so we are all students and the only smart option is keep learning.

Keep learning: that's one of my motto phrases.

Cheers.

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73 CO7WT, Pavel.


Re: Auto tuner update

 

The QRP Labs kit ordering page says 5W. In fact I believe they are fine for at least 10W and this is noted on the LPF Kit page

10W is well within the specified ratings of the cores according to the original G-QRP club website article (see for PDF of the article). 10W is also well within the voltage ratings of the NP0/C0G low-loss RF capacitors used in the LPF kits.

It may be possible to push it beyond 10W. Tolerance of SWR mismatch would be reduced (and eventually disappear). Another factor is component tolerances and winding differences resulting in variation in inductance values. If the filter starts producing attenuation at frequencies lower than it should... i.e. at the transmit frequency - then remember that attenuation means reduction in output power. The reduced power has to go *somewhere* and in fact it is likely to be largely dissipated as heat in the LPF components.?

I'm not sure how far beyond 10W would be Ok before generating smoke. Anyone who has these QRP Labs 7-element (3 inductors, 4 capacitors) filters on their tiny 1.5 x 0.5 inches board (37 x 13mm) would intuitively not think it right to put 100W through it. Even if everything measured perfectly I wouldn't want to go anywhere near 100W!

A confession... during PA development of the QRP Labs 5W HF PA kit (Class C) , I did put 30W continuous keyed through a QRP Labs LPF kit... No smoke ;-)

73 Hans G0UPL?
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Raduino 2.02 VFO A/B mode memory

 

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Hi All


Having just upgraded my Bitx40? Raduino?to v2.02? along?with the mods to the board, I?find that? VFO A and B retain the mode in use on the display but not in tx/rx.? The reason for using it like this is that I like to listen to the HF Aero around 6.5 Mhz USB? ( Mumbai Radio on 6.6601 coming into the UK quite well this afternoon ). As I have 7mhz LSB on VFO A and? 6mhz USB on VFO B it would be good to switch between A and B with a single press of the function button without going through the modes as well. So is this a bug in the software or hasn't the problem arisen until now ? As I am not a programmer I would't know where to start?but able to alter lines of code as instructed and upload to the Arduino, any help or advice would be appreciated.


I have to say a huge thank you to Allard and all the other software experimenters for their input to the project and Ashhar for the hardware design including the new uBitx multiband which I have as well but not yet in its final home ( see attached pictures)?. It has generated a great deal of ham radio fun and learning for me.


Peter G4NJJ


Re: uBitx receive working...transmit debugging help needed

 

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That would only tell you if the spare contact is working. ?A failing relay might have no switching action on one set of contacts or all of them.

Clark Martin
KK6ISP

On Jan 11, 2018, at 9:58 AM, Mvs Sarma <mvssarma@...> wrote:

Perhaps , difficult to know whether relays are working .
?Can we have a small led on the relay drive circuit to indicate atleast drive status of the relay. Whether it is operating or not has to be seen .
if a spare contact would be there it could light up an LED.?


Re: Auto tuner update

 

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Thanks'

Have you a link to the thread?

I'm one of the ones building a PA based on the work of WA2EBY.)

Alan

On 11/01/2018 18:16, K9HZ wrote:

My comment is in regards to discussion in his group.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

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On Jan 11, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Alan de G1FXB via Groups.Io <g1fxb@...> wrote:

While I acknowledge the discussion is regarding choice of toroids for an AMU project.

QRP Labs / Hans, Points out that his LPF design is suitable UP TO 5 watts as supplied in his kits.
See bottom section of the web page


Alan

On 11/01/2018 17:05, K9HZ wrote:
Not sure what brought this on but the teaching point of my post for those who would otherwise make current, voltage, saturation calculations for Inductors in RF service and build from them is to prototype first. ?My recollection in relation to Hans Summers LPF kits (nothing to do with my tuner design) is that guys are using them in amplifiers up to 100 watts... and i wonder if they have had the parts on the bench to really see the limitations of the filters. ?More clear?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

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On Jan 11, 2018, at 8:09 AM, Don Cantrell via Groups.Io <nd6t_6@...> wrote:

Bill, Before you get too invested in small toroids consider that the tuner must deal with higher currents than an LPF. Saturation results from current, not power. 100 watts and high impedance ratios requires larger cores. Best to do the math before ordering. 73, ND6T



Re: uBITX Display Separation Cable

James Lynes
 

Great documentary. See Netflix.

James


Re: uBitx receive working...transmit debugging help needed

 

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Ok, great. ?Next, you might check the polarity on that electret microphone. ?If you didn't build it yourself from the supplied parts check it anyway. ?Make sure the + terminal of the mic goes to the mic wire and not ground. ?I've had several hand mic's that I've repurposed not work because the electret element got wired backwards at the factory and QC didn't catch the mistake. ?If it's backwards the output of the element will be very low if you get any output at all.

Jim

On Jan 11, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Sean W7SKD <sean.jrdalys@...> wrote:

Jim - thank you - I validated the antenna wiring and it appears good.? I'm also seeing good output on CW (as opposed to SSB voice), so I think that proves out the antenna connection.


Re: Auto tuner update

 

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No

It looks like i need to refrain from posting and just direct you-all to my website now when the kit is complete.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

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On Jan 11, 2018, at 12:11 PM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote:

Perhaps you are thinking of this SWR Bridge?
It is apparently good for up to 100W, intermittent use.

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 09:05 am, K9HZ wrote:
My recollection in relation to Hans Summers LPF kits (nothing to do with my tuner design) is that guys are using them in amplifiers up to 100 watts...


Re: Auto tuner update

 

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My comment is in regards to discussion in his group.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Jan 11, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Alan de G1FXB via Groups.Io <g1fxb@...> wrote:

While I acknowledge the discussion is regarding choice of toroids for an AMU project.

QRP Labs / Hans, Points out that his LPF design is suitable UP TO 5 watts as supplied in his kits.
See bottom section of the web page


Alan

On 11/01/2018 17:05, K9HZ wrote:
Not sure what brought this on but the teaching point of my post for those who would otherwise make current, voltage, saturation calculations for Inductors in RF service and build from them is to prototype first. ?My recollection in relation to Hans Summers LPF kits (nothing to do with my tuner design) is that guys are using them in amplifiers up to 100 watts... and i wonder if they have had the parts on the bench to really see the limitations of the filters. ?More clear?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Jan 11, 2018, at 8:09 AM, Don Cantrell via Groups.Io <nd6t_6@...> wrote:

Bill, Before you get too invested in small toroids consider that the tuner must deal with higher currents than an LPF. Saturation results from current, not power. 100 watts and high impedance ratios requires larger cores. Best to do the math before ordering. 73, ND6T


Re: Auto tuner update

 

This SWR birdge:
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 10:11 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
Perhaps you are thinking of this SWR Bridge?
It is apparently good for up to 100W, intermittent use.


Re: Auto tuner update

 

Perhaps you are thinking of this SWR Bridge?
It is apparently good for up to 100W, intermittent use.


On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 09:05 am, K9HZ wrote:
My recollection in relation to Hans Summers LPF kits (nothing to do with my tuner design) is that guys are using them in amplifiers up to 100 watts...


Re: uBitx receive working...transmit debugging help needed

 

Jim - thank you - I validated the antenna wiring and it appears good.? I'm also seeing good output on CW (as opposed to SSB voice), so I think that proves out the antenna connection.


Re: uBitx receive working...transmit debugging help needed

 

Further update...I dont have a telegraph key, but I used a jumper to (momentarily) ground the cw key connector.? I got cw tone in the speaker AND over 5 watts output indicated on the MFJ meter.??

Is it safe to say that its more likely I'm having a problem with the microphone than the relays?? CW output appears to travel across the same relays as SSB voice.? I have an oscilloscope and multimeter...is there a simple test I could do to see if I have a bad microphone element?


Re: uBitx receive working...transmit debugging help needed

 

Perhaps , difficult to know whether relays are working .
?Can we have a small led on the relay drive circuit to indicate atleast drive status of the relay. Whether it is operating or not has to be seen .
if a spare contact would be there it could light up an LED.

regards
?sarma
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Regards
MVS Sarma
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Jim Sheldon <w0eb@...> wrote:
Make sure you have the black wire on the antenna connected to ground and NOT the brown one.? Also make sure that the RF output plug is wired properly so that the black wire actually does go to the ground side of the header plug.

Jim - W0EB



Re: AE7EU Top Level PCB Mod

 

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Yes, that is the application note on the Max part.? That is what they designed the part for.

I followed its suggestions for settings.? There are several capacitors to pick.? The main thing is to turn it down, do not overdrive Bit.? Sp I put the 2K pot on the final output.

AND this lead to yet another PCB project.?? In BitX I have a PTT board.? It has a comparitor that senses the small current (a few ma.)? when the PTT is pushed.? The PTT is just connected to the Max PCB, connecting it to 5V.

So now I only have 3 wires going to Mic.... Gnd, Mic, +5V.? I can use a cheap 3.5mm stereo cable from 99 cent store.? I have experimented with this board and a couple FETs for Pop reduction.? One FET turns on fast and off slow to mute the LM380.

The other one times the relay to have it actuate while mute is active.?? Then there is an inverter that give an +5V to Raduino to be complient with Allard's PTT signal.

There are 6 3D Printed ABS parts to the Microphone.? Worked out better than I expected!

73's

Mike, WA6ISP


On 1/11/2018 9:35 AM, Dave Bottom wrote:
The MAX9814 Chip.

As commented the gain should be set between the second and third stage not after to prevent to reduce noise and the chip has a very well filtered BIAS supply for the Electret Mic so they are doing everything to make it quiet. .? This works well with Cell Phones to clear background noise.? We'll see how it turns out here, but I am using a boom Mic headset with really good acoustic noise cancellation.? 85 db on train isn't heard and my F250 Diesel Truck isn't heard either while mobile.? Drive from audio needs to match levels in the Balanced Modulator or there will be distortion.? As I said we'll see how it works here.??

BTW - Nice job on your hand Mic Mike!

Dave WI6R

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Diver Martin <diver.martin@...> wrote:
Dave,

Can you point me towards which chip/board you're going to try out?

On Jan 10, 2018 11:05 PM, "Dave Bottom" <ars.kd6az@...> wrote:
Martin?

Looks good so far.

I have one of the Mic AGC amplifiers coming, so I will let you know how it works out.? I think a set and forget gain control will be fine.? It should be set so as not to over drive and be left alone.? Almost all cell phones use these 3 stage low noise AGC amplifiers for the Electret Mic so I¡¯m expecting it to work well here too.

Dave WI6R



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Diver Martin <diver.martin@...> wrote:

So, I've finally got a rough draft of what I'm thinking for my uBitx top PCB mod.? Features at this point are:

No modifications required to uBitx board itself (not to say a 470uF anti-pop mod might be bad, or other things couldn't be done)
ATU: 7-inductor, 8-capacitor with Hi-Z/Lo-Z switch.
Selectable Power output (two power input connectors)
Brain transplant:? Teensy3.2 96MHz ARM processor
All connections on side edges - no wiring to enclosure
Front panel with pushbutton switches
DSP Audio (Via Teensy32, would require headphones or amplified speakers)
Solderless AGC modification (Attenuator at the front end switched in during RX)
Realtime clock (via Teensy32)
Linear amplifier control (just a reed relay on a 3.5mm header, sorry, not an RCA, but you could easily change it...)
Top side only construction (would make assembly cost lower)

BoM cost:? Probably way higher than it should be.? Needs optimization, and I still need to enter in costs.
Complexity:? Probably way more than it should be.
Layout:? An ugly mess of routing.? I can't say I like it, but the constraints I put on myself made it really hard to route.? There's lots of open areas to cross with lots of signals going all different directions.

Picture of the layout and schematic PDF attached, along with a 3D view.

I think the one modification that I still need to consider is a microphone preamp.? But, I have no flippin' clue where on the PCB I'd put the gain control knob!? Might have to be an internal potentiometer....

--
Martin Held - AE7EU

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If there aren't any questions, then what is there to learn?
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73 Dave WI6R

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Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
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Re: AE7EU Top Level PCB Mod

Dave Bottom
 

The MAX9814 Chip.

As commented the gain should be set between the second and third stage not after to prevent to reduce noise and the chip has a very well filtered BIAS supply for the Electret Mic so they are doing everything to make it quiet. .? This works well with Cell Phones to clear background noise.? We'll see how it turns out here, but I am using a boom Mic headset with really good acoustic noise cancellation.? 85 db on train isn't heard and my F250 Diesel Truck isn't heard either while mobile.? Drive from audio needs to match levels in the Balanced Modulator or there will be distortion.? As I said we'll see how it works here.??

BTW - Nice job on your hand Mic Mike!

Dave WI6R

On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 7:44 AM, Diver Martin <diver.martin@...> wrote:
Dave,

Can you point me towards which chip/board you're going to try out?

On Jan 10, 2018 11:05 PM, "Dave Bottom" <ars.kd6az@...> wrote:
Martin?

Looks good so far.

I have one of the Mic AGC amplifiers coming, so I will let you know how it works out.? I think a set and forget gain control will be fine.? It should be set so as not to over drive and be left alone.? Almost all cell phones use these 3 stage low noise AGC amplifiers for the Electret Mic so I¡¯m expecting it to work well here too.

Dave WI6R



Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 10:39 PM, Diver Martin <diver.martin@...> wrote:

So, I've finally got a rough draft of what I'm thinking for my uBitx top PCB mod.? Features at this point are:

No modifications required to uBitx board itself (not to say a 470uF anti-pop mod might be bad, or other things couldn't be done)
ATU: 7-inductor, 8-capacitor with Hi-Z/Lo-Z switch.
Selectable Power output (two power input connectors)
Brain transplant:? Teensy3.2 96MHz ARM processor
All connections on side edges - no wiring to enclosure
Front panel with pushbutton switches
DSP Audio (Via Teensy32, would require headphones or amplified speakers)
Solderless AGC modification (Attenuator at the front end switched in during RX)
Realtime clock (via Teensy32)
Linear amplifier control (just a reed relay on a 3.5mm header, sorry, not an RCA, but you could easily change it...)
Top side only construction (would make assembly cost lower)

BoM cost:? Probably way higher than it should be.? Needs optimization, and I still need to enter in costs.
Complexity:? Probably way more than it should be.
Layout:? An ugly mess of routing.? I can't say I like it, but the constraints I put on myself made it really hard to route.? There's lots of open areas to cross with lots of signals going all different directions.

Picture of the layout and schematic PDF attached, along with a 3D view.

I think the one modification that I still need to consider is a microphone preamp.? But, I have no flippin' clue where on the PCB I'd put the gain control knob!? Might have to be an internal potentiometer....

--
Martin Held - AE7EU

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
If there aren't any questions, then what is there to learn?
<uBitx_top.png>
<uBitx_top.pdf>
<uBitx_top_3d.png>




--
73 Dave WI6R