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Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

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?That sketch will print out a few diagnostics as it goes along --- it also emulates a FT857d I believe and might be computer controllable through the usb port.....at least with WINLINK software....haven't tried anything else....




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 11:27 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah
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WOW!!!? ?So now you have a working Raduino!??


I'm attaching a sketch that worked well with one of my rigs -- is is from BEFORE? Allard added his interuppt part.? ?I was too lazy to keep with that level of changes.....this should compile and run without the interrupt stuff.


I'm watching the video that was suggested and after an initial thing dependent on a scope -- that is UNNESSARY IN YOUR CASE because you already now have a known good Raduino --- the video is extremely good at checking stage by stage.


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If the enclosed sketch causes your Bitx to begin to RECEIVVE thenyou are halfway there!


gordon




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 11:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah
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On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:35 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:
I'm going to try and attach a sketch that should send your radiuno to 25 MHz no matter WHAT you do with your dial:
You should then find the raduino signal about 4kHz up from 25.0000 Mhz (they all seem to be 4 kHz off)
That did it! Just a little less than 4 kHz off. You weren't kidding about it being a whopping signal either. It was massive. BUT, when I reload amunter's sketch, I don't get that signal anywhere from 4.8 to 5.5 even when plugged into the computer


Re: Looking for NOS or Pull with good leads 130 Ohm 3w

 

David,

? ?I used a metal oxide to make the pad when I built my WA2EBY linear earlier in the year and I have six extra.? They're Mouser 281-130-RC.? If that'll work for you, let me know where to send a pair and I'll put them in the mail.

? Andy, KG5RKP


On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 05:26 pm, N8DAH wrote:

Hey guys I'm building a WA2EBY amp and want to put the 5W pad on it for 5w drive to 1w but am missing one part....

130 Ohm carbon comp 3w resistor

?Any help would be great ....I am happy to pay for shipping and the part....I have looked everywhere all I can find is 3x 390 Ohm 1w but I don't think I can get them to fit.....

?

Help!

73

? David

? N8DAH


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

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WOW!!!? ?So now you have a working Raduino!??


I'm attaching a sketch that worked well with one of my rigs -- is is from BEFORE? Allard added his interuppt part.? ?I was too lazy to keep with that level of changes.....this should compile and run without the interrupt stuff.


I'm watching the video that was suggested and after an initial thing dependent on a scope -- that is UNNESSARY IN YOUR CASE because you already now have a known good Raduino --- the video is extremely good at checking stage by stage.


?


If the enclosed sketch causes your Bitx to begin to RECEIVVE thenyou are halfway there!


gordon




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 11:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah
?
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:35 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:
I'm going to try and attach a sketch that should send your radiuno to 25 MHz no matter WHAT you do with your dial:
You should then find the raduino signal about 4kHz up from 25.0000 Mhz (they all seem to be 4 kHz off)
That did it! Just a little less than 4 kHz off. You weren't kidding about it being a whopping signal either. It was massive. BUT, when I reload amunter's sketch, I don't get that signal anywhere from 4.8 to 5.5 even when plugged into the computer


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Vince Vielhaber
 

Look at line 2 of the sketch, it'll tell you the version number.

Vince.

On 12/17/2017 11:22 PM, tausciam@... wrote:
I went right to the github and clicked "Clone or download"
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

 

I went right to the github and clicked "Clone or download"


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Vince Vielhaber
 

Gordon's sketch worked but Allard's did not? What version of Allard's sketch are you using?

Vince.

On 12/17/2017 11:19 PM, tausciam@... wrote:
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:35 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:

I'm going to try and attach a sketch that should send your radiuno
to 25 MHz no matter WHAT you do with your dial:
You should then find the raduino signal about 4kHz up from 25.0000
Mhz (they all seem to be 4 kHz off)

That did it! Just a little less than 4 kHz off. You weren't kidding
about it being a whopping signal either. It was massive. BUT, when I
reload amunter's sketch, I don't get that signal anywhere from 4.8 to
5.5 even when plugged into the computer
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

 

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:35 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:
I'm going to try and attach a sketch that should send your radiuno to 25 MHz no matter WHAT you do with your dial:
You should then find the raduino signal about 4kHz up from 25.0000 Mhz (they all seem to be 4 kHz off)
That did it! Just a little less than 4 kHz off. You weren't kidding about it being a whopping signal either. It was massive. BUT, when I reload amunter's sketch, I don't get that signal anywhere from 4.8 to 5.5 even when plugged into the computer


Re: hello

Vince Vielhaber
 

"Hotspring 44" ???

On 12/17/2017 11:10 PM, N8DAH wrote:
I have to sell some stuff but I will be getting one, looks like a ton of
fun and will be a nice addition (I kept typing addiction) to the rest of
my qrp goodies. If you do get one "Hotspring 44" you will love it they
are a blast to mod and build. Plus for an entry rig they are the best
you could ask for in the cost.



73

David

--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

 

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I just had my electronics-knowledge-deficient wife watch the video and go thru my BITX40 and she could do it, so I'm confident most anyone could.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Dec 17, 2017, at 10:00 PM, Gordon Gibby <ggibby@...> wrote:

"

Don't forget this video that was just mentioned on troubleshooting the radio with nothing more than a short piece of wire.?


?"

Yes -- thanks --- I haven't watched it but it might help this fellow tremendously.? ??
thank you for reminding us again of it.....once he has ANY success under his belt he will probably become more confident and be able to follow with more successes --- video might be the trick.? ?

gordon



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of K9HZ <bill@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah
?
Don't forget this video that was just mentioned on troubleshooting the radio with nothing more than a short piece of wire.?




Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:18 PM, tausciam@... wrote:

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 06:44 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
There's one thing wrong with his assessment. You aren't/weren't getting
an idle current. Raduino has absolutely nothing to do with that.

I agree with Marco, tho, try reloading the sketch. That may fix the
receive issue.

Vince.

If I set my meter on 10 amps, I'm reading a .01 on the meter when I measure the current. Wouldn't that be the 100 milliamps idle current? When I hit PTT, it goes up to .02

?

I'll reload the sketch too


Re: hello

 

I have to sell some stuff but I will be getting one, looks like a ton of fun and will be a nice addition (I kept typing addiction) to the rest of my qrp goodies. If you do get one "Hotspring 44" you will love it they are a blast to mod and build. Plus for an entry rig they are the best you could ask for in the cost.

?

73

? David


Re: hello

Vince Vielhaber
 

I haven't ordered mine yet. Waiting till after Christmas, even tho the price will be higher.

Vince.

On 12/17/2017 11:04 PM, John P wrote:
I think everyone on the group has a uBitX on order if not already on the
workbench! Mine is supposed to be here Wednesday.
--
John - WA2FZW
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: hello

John P
 

I think everyone on the group has a uBitX on order if not already on the workbench! Mine is supposed to be here Wednesday.?
--
John - WA2FZW


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

Vince that is a very cool story about the FT-101.....one of the most mind-blowing things ever happened to me was when Jerry here finally got me to understand that a mixer would do quite well with a SQUARE WAVE INPUT.......I never understood mixers so well, ever in my life before reading things on this forum.....opened a new vista for me about radios.


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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

I bought a Yaesu FT-101EX that someone robbed some parts out of (it was
guaranteed to have some missing parts) and among the missing parts were
the 10 meter crystals (11 meter crystal was there tho). So I made a
little circuit that plugged into the crystal sockets after I removed all
of 'em, and it connected to an arduino nano and an Si5351. Change the
band switch and the 5351 injects the right signal. They were all a bit
off freq tho. I didn't pay much attention at the time but it's gotta
come back to the bench soon, so I'll take care of that as well.

Vince.



On 12/17/2017 10:50 PM, Gordon Gibby wrote:
Vince -- I barely understand the IDE environment.....have no idea how those extra .ino's got added.....but I can code enough C to get things working and found that every one ofmy 4 or 5 raduinos was between 4 and 5 kHz HIGH at 25 MHz.

So i just change the crystal frequency in the sketch and bingo! no calibratin needed. Measure the BFO cystal oscillator andput THAT inthe sketch also and BINGO! perfect frequency accuracy right out of the box.

Then I realized I could replace theVFO in my Heathkit--- measured all the heterodyne oscillators (using a receiver) and the BFO oscillators in theheahtkit and rewrote the sketch to PERFECTLY control the heathkit --- also made it simulate an FT-857d so now computer controllable --- I put the sketch on GitHub (never did THAT before!) and bingo, we have a computer controllable, digitally accurate Heahtkit athat is is virutally immmune to EMP. For our EOC.

Gordon


________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Yeah, I shoulda added it wont necessarily be right on freq.

Vince.


On 12/17/2017 10:38 PM, Gordon Gibby wrote:
"Unplug and remove the raduino and take it over near the HF rig with
it connected to the computer (I'm assuming the computer and HF rig
are near each other or can be). Then you can check for 5MHz signal
when the raduino is tuned to 7.000 and 5.300MHz when the raduino is
tuned to 7.300, and, of course, points in between.

Ok....I will try that right now?"


Cool -- good move. Search around a bit and hopefully you'll find the
signal!!!! If you do, you'll be several miles ahead on this project.

Gordon





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*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:34 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year
old's Chanukah

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:27 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

Unplug and remove the raduino and take it over near the HF rig with
it connected to the computer (I'm assuming the computer and HF rig
are near each other or can be). Then you can check for 5MHz signal
when the raduino is tuned to 7.000 and 5.300MHz when the raduino is
tuned to 7.300, and, of course, points in between.

Ok....I will try that right now
--
Michigan VHF Corp.






--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

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"

Don't forget this video that was just mentioned on troubleshooting the radio with nothing more than a short piece of wire.?


?"

Yes -- thanks --- I haven't watched it but it might help this fellow tremendously.? ??
thank you for reminding us again of it.....once he has ANY success under his belt he will probably become more confident and be able to follow with more successes --- video might be the trick.? ?

gordon



From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of K9HZ <bill@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:57 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah
?
Don't forget this video that was just mentioned on troubleshooting the radio with nothing more than a short piece of wire.?




Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:18 PM, tausciam@... wrote:

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 06:44 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
There's one thing wrong with his assessment. You aren't/weren't getting
an idle current. Raduino has absolutely nothing to do with that.

I agree with Marco, tho, try reloading the sketch. That may fix the
receive issue.

Vince.

If I set my meter on 10 amps, I'm reading a .01 on the meter when I measure the current. Wouldn't that be the 100 milliamps idle current? When I hit PTT, it goes up to .02

?

I'll reload the sketch too


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Vince Vielhaber
 

I bought a Yaesu FT-101EX that someone robbed some parts out of (it was guaranteed to have some missing parts) and among the missing parts were the 10 meter crystals (11 meter crystal was there tho). So I made a little circuit that plugged into the crystal sockets after I removed all of 'em, and it connected to an arduino nano and an Si5351. Change the band switch and the 5351 injects the right signal. They were all a bit off freq tho. I didn't pay much attention at the time but it's gotta come back to the bench soon, so I'll take care of that as well.

Vince.

On 12/17/2017 10:50 PM, Gordon Gibby wrote:
Vince -- I barely understand the IDE environment.....have no idea how those extra .ino's got added.....but I can code enough C to get things working and found that every one ofmy 4 or 5 raduinos was between 4 and 5 kHz HIGH at 25 MHz.

So i just change the crystal frequency in the sketch and bingo! no calibratin needed. Measure the BFO cystal oscillator andput THAT inthe sketch also and BINGO! perfect frequency accuracy right out of the box.

Then I realized I could replace theVFO in my Heathkit--- measured all the heterodyne oscillators (using a receiver) and the BFO oscillators in theheahtkit and rewrote the sketch to PERFECTLY control the heathkit --- also made it simulate an FT-857d so now computer controllable --- I put the sketch on GitHub (never did THAT before!) and bingo, we have a computer controllable, digitally accurate Heahtkit athat is is virutally immmune to EMP. For our EOC.

Gordon


________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Yeah, I shoulda added it wont necessarily be right on freq.

Vince.


On 12/17/2017 10:38 PM, Gordon Gibby wrote:
"Unplug and remove the raduino and take it over near the HF rig with
it connected to the computer (I'm assuming the computer and HF rig
are near each other or can be). Then you can check for 5MHz signal
when the raduino is tuned to 7.000 and 5.300MHz when the raduino is
tuned to 7.300, and, of course, points in between.

Ok....I will try that right now?"


Cool -- good move. Search around a bit and hopefully you'll find the
signal!!!! If you do, you'll be several miles ahead on this project.

Gordon





------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:34 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year
old's Chanukah

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:27 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

Unplug and remove the raduino and take it over near the HF rig with
it connected to the computer (I'm assuming the computer and HF rig
are near each other or can be). Then you can check for 5MHz signal
when the raduino is tuned to 7.000 and 5.300MHz when the raduino is
tuned to 7.300, and, of course, points in between.

Ok....I will try that right now
--
Michigan VHF Corp.





--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

 

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Don't forget this video that was just mentioned on troubleshooting the radio with nothing more than a short piece of wire.?




Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

?

Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch ¨C K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner ¨C Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:


email:??bill@...

?


On Dec 17, 2017, at 9:18 PM, tausciam@... wrote:

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 06:44 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
There's one thing wrong with his assessment. You aren't/weren't getting
an idle current. Raduino has absolutely nothing to do with that.

I agree with Marco, tho, try reloading the sketch. That may fix the
receive issue.

Vince.

If I set my meter on 10 amps, I'm reading a .01 on the meter when I measure the current. Wouldn't that be the 100 milliamps idle current? When I hit PTT, it goes up to .02

?

I'll reload the sketch too


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

I'm attaching a PDF of the schematic since you indicated you might be having problems viewing it.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

Vince -- I barely understand the IDE environment.....have no idea how those extra .ino's got added.....but I can code enough C to get things working and found that every one ofmy 4 or 5 raduinos was between 4 and 5 kHz HIGH at 25 MHz.

So i just change the crystal frequency in the sketch and bingo! no calibratin needed. Measure the BFO cystal oscillator andput THAT inthe sketch also and BINGO! perfect frequency accuracy right out of the box.

Then I realized I could replace theVFO in my Heathkit--- measured all the heterodyne oscillators (using a receiver) and the BFO oscillators in theheahtkit and rewrote the sketch to PERFECTLY control the heathkit --- also made it simulate an FT-857d so now computer controllable --- I put the sketch on GitHub (never did THAT before!) and bingo, we have a computer controllable, digitally accurate Heahtkit athat is is virutally immmune to EMP. For our EOC.

Gordon


________________________________________
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:40 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Yeah, I shoulda added it wont necessarily be right on freq.

Vince.


On 12/17/2017 10:38 PM, Gordon Gibby wrote:
"Unplug and remove the raduino and take it over near the HF rig with
it connected to the computer (I'm assuming the computer and HF rig
are near each other or can be). Then you can check for 5MHz signal
when the raduino is tuned to 7.000 and 5.300MHz when the raduino is
tuned to 7.300, and, of course, points in between.

Ok....I will try that right now?"


Cool -- good move. Search around a bit and hopefully you'll find the
signal!!!! If you do, you'll be several miles ahead on this project.

Gordon





------------------------------------------------------------------------
*From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of
tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
*Sent:* Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:34 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year
old's Chanukah

On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:27 pm, Vince Vielhaber wrote:

Unplug and remove the raduino and take it over near the HF rig with
it connected to the computer (I'm assuming the computer and HF rig
are near each other or can be). Then you can check for 5MHz signal
when the raduino is tuned to 7.000 and 5.300MHz when the raduino is
tuned to 7.300, and, of course, points in between.

Ok....I will try that right now
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

 

I can't help but add to this if only to say....Don't beat yourself up. People are trying to help you DON'T give up or in....I have been a ham 7 years or so most of which I was a tech. I am not an EE I am 100% self educated with help from elmers from time to time, both here and in person. Ask questions, ask your club they won't bite...if they do ask someone else.

?Take it one step at a time, one section at a time. Don't be so hard on yourself. I have so many "projects" that died or were killed by me and later down the road I fixed!

I had to learn by doing not by reading to pass my general (not very good at book learning or "memorizing answers"). I won't even tell you how many times I took my exam before I passed but I never gave up.

?

Good luck in any event.

?73

? David


Re: Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah

Gordon Gibby
 

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Ha!? You didn't ask --- I? ?**oFFERED** -- and still do.? ?spent FOUR HOURS getting a fellow's rig working on my kitchen table on Saturday and he left all SMILES with things working that he never dreamed he would be able to do.....


When people are very new at something and very frustrated it is normal for emotions to boil over.? ?Fuggetaboutit!? ?We all want you to succeed!


IF YOU ARE ABLE TO FIND THAT RADUINO SIGNAL ON YOUR COMM RADIO YOU WILL HAVE MADE A HUGE STEP FORWARD.? YOU ARE MAKING A HUGE MOVE BY GIVING THAT EXPERIMENT A TRY!!!


?And you're going to set a huge example for your child.? ?May be far more important than the device itself.? ?people who can FIX things are work millions.....


we're all waiting with baited breath.....look all around, couple as much as you can to that raduino output without actually TOUCHING bare wires to bare wires --- you're very likely to find that signal somewhere......if the sketch is working at all....


cheers


gordon




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of tausciam@... <tausciam@...>
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 10:42 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help! I think I may have just ruined my 9 year old's Chanukah
?
On Sun, Dec 17, 2017 at 07:28 pm, Gordon Gibby wrote:
If there is a way that I can pay you over Pay Pal (I'm not brilliant with that service)? I can simply BUY the device so you don't incur any risk, and you can ship it to me in Florida.

I wouldn't ask you to do that. Thanks for the offer. You have been very helpful after I objected and I'd be obnoxious to not thank you now if I was critical of you then. I will try to find that carrier like Vince is telling me how to do. I'll post a picture of how it's mounted like you asked. I'll reload the sketch. Maybe some of that will work. I'm sorry I've been getting so frustrated.