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Re: Standoff question

 

i know that m3 screws fit and i measuree the height with the scale in my tools drawer. For those who insist on metric purity, do the math. Anyone got the speed of light in furlongs per fortnight yet?
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On 20 Oct 2017 2:29 am, "Michael Hagen" <motdog@...> wrote:

Ash,

Hey, you are mixing Metric with our wonderful SAE Imperial sytem!

Ha..Ha..

They are 0.427" long.


On 10/19/2017 1:47 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
m3 thread on half inch stanoffs
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On 20 Oct 2017 1:51 am, "Barrett O" <ogebarrett@...> wrote:
Hey guys I'm looking to buy some extra standoffs of about the same size that come with the bitx to mount some buck converters. does anybody know what size the standoffs are?

Barrett
KG5SSO

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Re: More questions

 

I have only had my bitx40 for a week but am having lots of fun with it. Great receive audio. My hack for the carrier pulse was to take the PTT from the mike directly into the Raduino (same input as PTT sense in Allards code but with pull up enabled) and then add code to turn off the clock from the Si5351, output the PTT to the relays, wait 50ms (may be able to reduce this but for SSB is no problem) then turn the clock on again. Eliminated the spurious transmission entirely and reduced but not eliminated the pop on the speaker.?
Agc is next hack. Wondering about feeding the 5v PTT out to the relays also into Farhans audio agc circuit via a diode after the diode for rectifying the audio signal. I guess this will turn the fet on effectively shorting the input to the audio amp hopefully before the relays change over. ?The time constant in the agc may also remove the tx-Rx pop. Anyone see any problems with that?
?
Dave M0WID
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Re: Standoff question

 

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Ash,

Hey, you are mixing Metric with our wonderful SAE Imperial sytem!

Ha..Ha..

They are 0.427" long.


On 10/19/2017 1:47 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
m3 thread on half inch stanoffs
- f

On 20 Oct 2017 1:51 am, "Barrett O" <ogebarrett@...> wrote:
Hey guys I'm looking to buy some extra standoffs of about the same size that come with the bitx to mount some buck converters. does anybody know what size the standoffs are?

Barrett
KG5SSO

-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...


Re: Standoff question

 

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They are 3mm 0.5 thread.? Metric, and the ones with male stud are not cheap.?? Double female holes are the most common.

Mouser or Digikey or surplus vendors would have 4-40 US thread.

The distance on the LCD connector is 0.427".? I make them on the 3D printer and use #4 sheet metal screws.? That allows the LCD to be parallel.

Hole about 0.110" works fine.? I would make them for you, you just do the postage?

The printer takes about 15 min, and I make 6-8 at a time.? They are ABS filament.

Mike, WA6ISP






On 10/19/2017 1:21 PM, Barrett O wrote:
Hey guys I'm looking to buy some extra standoffs of about the same size that come with the bitx to mount some buck converters. does anybody know what size the standoffs are?

Barrett
KG5SSO

-- 
Mike Hagen, WA6ISP
10917 Bryant Street
Yucaipa, Ca. 92399
(909) 918-0058
PayPal ID  "MotDog@..."
Mike@...


Re: Standoff question

 

m3 thread on half inch stanoffs
- f

On 20 Oct 2017 1:51 am, "Barrett O" <ogebarrett@...> wrote:
Hey guys I'm looking to buy some extra standoffs of about the same size that come with the bitx to mount some buck converters. does anybody know what size the standoffs are?

Barrett
KG5SSO


Standoff question

 

Hey guys I'm looking to buy some extra standoffs of about the same size that come with the bitx to mount some buck converters. does anybody know what size the standoffs are?

Barrett
KG5SSO


Re: Would this P/S work?

 

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The LM723 datasheet has some great examples of adding pass transistors to linear voltage regulators for greater output current.? I use an LM723 based linear power supply and while it's inefficient compared to switchers it's quite easy to get clean power out of them.? Linear or foldback current limiting is also easily available with the 723.




On 10/19/2017 03:44 PM, Dexter N Muir wrote:

For more current output, try this:

Feed the LM regulator via 1 ohm. Feed emitter of 2N2955 (PNP!) also. Take PNP Base to other side of the 1E resistor (regulator input) and PNP Emitter to regulator output.
Now, as load increases the reg. develops voltage across the 1E resistor, and at around 0.6V (0.6A through the regulator), PNP turns on. By the time the regulator is taking 0.7A it is developing 0.7V across the 1E resistor (which is dissipating I^2R = 0.49W), and PNP is turned fully on and well and truly taking the rest of the load!
2 components: 2N2955 (and heatsink of course - water-cooled, anyone?) and 1E 1W resistor.
Drop-out voltage = that of the regulator + Vbe(PNP).
The 2N2955 is rated to 10A, and you can add many of them by adding a (1A rated) diode in series with the regulator and 1E0 (compensates for the Vbe of the 2955/s), and 0E1 resistors in the emitters. The 2955s are then sharing the load to 10 * Ireg each, well within rating, and all protected by the regulator.

Boost the Vout? add 1k regulator out to 'ground' (lifted) and resistors / pot to suit then to ground.
This works for *any* LM regulator, just adjust the 'grounding' resistance.
From the datasheet, LM317 is 1.2V out so, given 1k across that, the grounding resistor will be about (desired Vout - 1.2) / (1.2 / 1k).
So, e.g., given regulator LM7812 and 1k across its output, wanting 13.8V out, grounding resistance will be about (13.8-12) / (12 / 1k) = 150E.

Have fun, folks!
73 de Dex ZL2DEX


Re: Would this P/S work?

 

Sorry, folks, my bad:

... PNP *Collector* to regulator output.

Haven't worked with PNPs for so long I forgot - Collector to negative. ... :)

73 all


Re: Would this P/S work?

 

LOL! When that IRF-510 overloads and POPs, you're clearly wanting the
neighbors to know about it, too! HiHi

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, Dexter N Muir wrote:

For more current output, try this:

Feed the LM regulator via 1 ohm. Feed emitter of 2N2955 (PNP!) also. Take PNP Base to other side of the 1E resistor (regulator input) and PNP Emitter to regulator output.
Now, as load increases the reg. develops voltage across the 1E resistor, and at around 0.6V (0.6A through the regulator), PNP turns on. By the time the regulator is taking 0.7A it is developing 0.7V across the 1E resistor (which is dissipating I^2R = 0.49W), and PNP is turned fully on and well and truly taking the rest of the load!
2 components: 2N2955 (and heatsink of course - water-cooled, anyone?) and 1E 1W resistor.
Drop-out voltage = that of the regulator + Vbe(PNP).
The 2N2955 is rated to 10A, and you can add many of them by adding a (1A rated) diode in series with the regulator and 1E0 (compensates for the Vbe of the 2955/s), and 0E1 resistors in the emitters. The 2955s are then sharing the load to 10 * Ireg each, well within rating, and all protected by the regulator.

Boost the Vout? add 1k regulator out to 'ground' (lifted) and resistors / pot to suit then to ground.
This works for *any* LM regulator, just adjust the 'grounding' resistance.
From the datasheet, LM317 is 1.2V out so, given 1k across that, the grounding resistor will be about (desired Vout - 1.2) / (1.2 / 1k).
So, e.g., given regulator LM7812 and 1k across its output, wanting 13.8V out, grounding resistance will be about (13.8-12) / (12 / 1k) = 150E.

Have fun, folks!
73 de Dex ZL2DEX


Re: BitX40 collaborate in person? BitX40 Arduino Ham Radio 'show and tell' all welcome

 

Lovely! A bit beyond getting there for me - pensioner in New Zealand - but definitely keen to see it happen. Anyone able / keen to shoot video and post (¨¤ la HamRadioNow)? or inveigle Gary ?


Re: W8TEE Software Release 1.07-09

 

Hi.
Jack W8TEE?
I can't read more than half of the emailadress or your PayPal-account. Everything after @ is just dots.
I would like to order 3 pcb:s.
Can you please email me your paypal name at?
hans.elmlund@...?
( hans.elmlund/at/gmail.com)
Thanks


Re: Would this P/S work?

 

For more current output, try this:

Feed the LM regulator via 1 ohm. Feed emitter of 2N2955 (PNP!) also. Take PNP Base to other side of the 1E resistor (regulator input) and PNP Emitter to regulator output.
Now, as load increases the reg. develops voltage across the 1E resistor, and at around 0.6V (0.6A through the regulator), PNP turns on. By the time the regulator is taking 0.7A it is developing 0.7V across the 1E resistor (which is dissipating I^2R = 0.49W), and PNP is turned fully on and well and truly taking the rest of the load!
2 components: 2N2955 (and heatsink of course - water-cooled, anyone?) and 1E 1W resistor.
Drop-out voltage = that of the regulator + Vbe(PNP).
The 2N2955 is rated to 10A, and you can add many of them by adding a (1A rated) diode in series with the regulator and 1E0 (compensates for the Vbe of the 2955/s), and 0E1 resistors in the emitters. The 2955s are then sharing the load to 10 * Ireg each, well within rating, and all protected by the regulator.

Boost the Vout? add 1k regulator out to 'ground' (lifted) and resistors / pot to suit then to ground.
This works for *any* LM regulator, just adjust the 'grounding' resistance.
From the datasheet, LM317 is 1.2V out so, given 1k across that, the grounding resistor will be about (desired Vout - 1.2) / (1.2 / 1k).
So, e.g., given regulator LM7812 and 1k across its output, wanting 13.8V out, grounding resistance will be about (13.8-12) / (12 / 1k) = 150E.

Have fun, folks!
73 de Dex ZL2DEX


Re: BitX40 collaborate in person? BitX40 Arduino Ham Radio 'show and tell' all welcome

 

I will do a build post on this but, here is my stock BitX40, on what our club is using as 'workstation'.


BitX40 collaborate in person? BitX40 Arduino Ham Radio 'show and tell' all welcome

 

BitX40 Mods on Display in person...

In the spirit of this being a BitX talk group where a lot of sharing goes on.? From the open source nature of the radios themselves to Mr. Farhan¡¯s continuing to comment on others contributions, to the evolution of the many directions that individuals Mods are taking this project....to the BitX40¡®s on Google Maps, to Sunday night QSO parties, we all seem to be reaching out to connect....

In that spirit...

I am asking?? if there any Builders on this board who would be interested in sharing in person, by attending, an in person, bring your BitX40 or other Arduino Core Ham Radio project to a Forum, hosted in an indoor facility in East TN, USA, on January 6, 2018??

On the schedule is Dr. Jack Purdum with a talk on ¡®Tips on Homebrewing¡¯, followed by an open invitation (with entrance) to display ones BitX40 and Mods or other Arduino Core Ham Radio Projects (depending on project, table top of appropriate size will be provided) and then discuss yours and others Projects.? Then, concluding with a Roundtable discussion on ¡®Arduino and Ham Radio¡¯ also attended by Dr. Jack Purdum and hopefully....¡®You¡¯.

I have a few interesting BitX40's lined up at this time.

I see this as an extension of this board....a time and place where ¡®in person¡¯ collaboration will be possible. A chance to ¡®see¡¯ some of these Mods and talk to the person who has done them.

As a bonus, the Hamfest that this is taking place at, its at a large facility that allows indoor tailgating, has accessible features (elevators), and has its own year round RV campground with electric and water hookups. No parking in the grass, flat hard parking for about 2k. Located within sight of Interstate, everything needed at same exit.? The definition of easy.

If this is not appropriate to post here, please delete. Please contact me off board for more information if interested.? Your comments are welcomed.?

My thoughts: comments geared toward collaboration might be okay on board??

?

Craig Thibodeaux

KM4YEC ....? @ .... ? gmail


Re: Would this P/S work?

 

Nice on-line heatsink calulator! ....And, consider that this calculation
is for 100% duty cycle.

73, David KB4FXC

On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, Henning Weddig via Groups.Io wrote:

Raj,

I just had a look on the below mentioned data sheet. Fromt there ist
shuts down if the internal chip temperature reaches 180 deg C, but htis
value is not tested in production.

The thermal resistance chip - case is 5 deg C/W.

Assuming an input voltage of 31 V and output voltage of 18 V , the
difference is 13 V?? times 1.5 A gives 19.5 W of dissipated power.

If You have a heatsink with indefinite good thermal conductance the
tempderature rise will be 19.5 W times 5 deg C/W = 97.5 deg C.

For calculating the overall thermal rise, see e.g.

*

*Henning Weddig*

*DK5LV*


Am 19.10.2017 um 13:13 schrieb David McGough:
Hi Raj,

You may not have had a big enough heat sink for the 317T or another
stability problem if it starts to limit current at 0.5A. My experience
with about 31V input and 18V to 25V output has shown 1.5A output reliably,
with stable voltage regulation. For a typical datasheet, see the
"Figure 8. Current Limit" graph on page 5 of this PDF:



...As with all ancient regular ICs, the 317T has been cloned by everyone
and specs may vary. The exact parts I'm using came from National
Semiconductor many years ago.

Why I originally chose the 317T for my project is that it seemed an almost
perfect match for the IRF-510---meaning keeping the 510 within maximum
specs under all load conditions...Again, with a big enough heat sink on
the 510, too! ....And, over the last 5+ years of continuous beacon
operation, I've found this premise to be true.

Anyhow, there are plenty of regulator choices out there! ...Have fun and
homebrew!

73, David KB4FXC



On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, Raj vu2zap wrote:

i.e LM338 - my choice over a LM317 series. 317 starts limiting current
quite early even with minimum rise in temperature. I don't recommend
it for anything over 0.5A unless the in-out voltage difference is a few
volts!

Raj

At 19/10/2017, you wrote:
If you are going to build a linear regulator to power the drain
of the IRF510, why not use a LM336? It is good to 5A throughput
at those voltages. A smaller one would do for powering the board
directly, even a LM7805 if the voltage drop is not too great.
Don't forget the reverse voltage protection!

john
AD5YE




bitxmap.com update

 

I continue to be amazed with the community that has grown around this radio.? I was checking up on bitxmap.com this morning I thought I would share some statistics with the group.? In just over 4 months we have 229 builder/operators listed and almost 11,000 views.? By way of comparison, google.com gets that many hits in .07286 seconds.? Now we just need someone to set up a radio in Antarctica and we will have all 7 continents.


Re: Would this P/S work?

 

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Raj,

I just had a look on the below mentioned data sheet. Fromt there ist shuts down if the internal chip temperature reaches 180 deg C, but htis value is not tested in production.

The thermal resistance chip - case is 5 deg C/W.

Assuming an input voltage of 31 V and output voltage of 18 V , the difference is 13 V? times 1.5 A gives 19.5 W of dissipated power.

If You have a heatsink with indefinite good thermal conductance the tempderature rise will be 19.5 W times 5 deg C/W = 97.5 deg C.

For calculating the overall thermal rise, see e.g.

Henning Weddig

DK5LV


Am 19.10.2017 um 13:13 schrieb David McGough:

Hi Raj,

You may not have had a big enough heat sink for the 317T or another
stability problem if it starts to limit current at 0.5A. My experience
with about 31V input and 18V to 25V output has shown 1.5A output reliably,
with stable voltage regulation. For a typical datasheet, see the
"Figure 8. Current Limit" graph on page 5 of this PDF:



...As with all ancient regular ICs, the 317T has been cloned by everyone
and specs may vary. The exact parts I'm using came from National
Semiconductor many years ago.

Why I originally chose the 317T for my project is that it seemed an almost
perfect match for the IRF-510---meaning keeping the 510 within maximum
specs under all load conditions...Again, with a big enough heat sink on
the 510, too! ....And, over the last 5+ years of continuous beacon
operation, I've found this premise to be true.

Anyhow, there are plenty of regulator choices out there! ...Have fun and 
homebrew!

73, David KB4FXC



On Thu, 19 Oct 2017, Raj vu2zap wrote:

i.e LM338 - my choice over a LM317 series. 317 starts limiting current
quite early even with minimum rise in temperature. I don't recommend
it for anything over 0.5A unless the in-out voltage difference is a few
volts!

Raj

At 19/10/2017, you wrote:
If you are going to build a linear regulator to power the drain
of the IRF510, why not use a LM336? It is good to 5A throughput
at those voltages. A smaller one would do for powering the board
directly, even a LM7805 if the voltage drop is not too great.
Don't forget the reverse voltage protection!

john
AD5YE









Re: More questions

 

Jerry,

Yes, this will not work with Allards CW. If an nano output is used to unbalance the two diodes
may work. I have not tried it.

The other thump on rx needs the other fix!

Raj

At 19/10/2017, you wrote:

Note that this fix is not compatible with Allard's instructions for using the rig on CW.

Also, note that there are two PTT bursts.?
Raj's fix is for the carrier burst that transmits out over the air.
There's also a kerchunk you hear in the headphones.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 01:31 am, Raj vu2zap wrote:
The carrier burst on PTT is due to the C122 charging up through D15 or 16 unbalancing it and allowing a leak.

Quick fix is put a 0.68uF cap from the common of D15/16 to the atten pad R39. A track has to be cut.
If your board has a trimpot there then you can tombstone the pot and add the cap.

A 1K resistor across C107 helps.

The leak is almost eliminated.


Re: More questions

 

Note that this fix is not compatible with Allard's instructions for using the rig on CW.

Also, note that there are two PTT bursts. ?
Raj's fix is for the carrier burst that transmits out over the air.
There's also a kerchunk you hear in the headphones.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Thu, Oct 19, 2017 at 01:31 am, Raj vu2zap wrote:
The carrier burst on PTT is due to the C122 charging up through D15 or 16 unbalancing it and allowing a leak.

Quick fix is put a 0.68uF cap from the common of D15/16 to the atten pad R39. A track has to be cut.
If your board has a trimpot there then you can tombstone the pot and add the cap.

A 1K resistor across C107 helps.

The leak is almost eliminated.


Re: More questions

 

? ? ? Hello everyone, anyone ever thought of replacing the relay by switching to transistor? I made some hopes with this but did not measure the delay of the two switches, it's just an idea!
? ? ?Jorge PY2PVT _._

2017-10-19 4:03 GMT-02:00 Gary O'Neil <n3go@...>:

I tried the relay idea Brent, and it did nothing, so don't go hacking your board on the hope this is going to fix your problem. I still see a burst of full carrier for ~ 6 ms immediately after PTT is applied. I see the same result in CW mode, except there's a pause after the burst before the carrier comes on for the first code element is transmitted. The timing is almost precise on this, but I haven't found anything in the code that seems to correlate with it. The 6 ms does correlate with the relay switching speed, but it seems I'm puzzled on this issue again. Either I'm still overlooking something, or I botched the hack on my board.

Sorry about that.

Gary, N3GO




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