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Re: Raduino V1.01 vs V1.14 Birdie at 7.200

 

On Mon, June 12, 2017 11:22, EA3IAV wrote:
I thought drive level was 1mA... during checking of the alignment process
i followed instructions given in hfsignals... this has to be updated as i
have checked over and over in order to soove this (i even thought my
instruments were not ok) ??¡®?
Please don't confuse VFO drive level with PA drive.

The drive level I am refering to is the VFO drive level, not the PA drive.

The VFO drive level is a software parameter in the SI5351 library, and it
controls the output strength of the Raduino VFO.

It has nothing to do with alignment of the PA.

73 Allard PE1NWL


Re: Raduino V1.01 vs V1.14 Birdie at 7.200

 

On Mon, June 12, 2017 11:22, EA3IAV wrote:
I thought drive level was 1mA... during checking of the alignment process
i followed instructions given in hfsignals... this has to be updated as i
have checked over and over in order to soove this (i even thought my
instruments were not ok) ??¡®?
Please don't confuse VFO drive level with PA drive.

The drive level I am refering to is the VFO drive level, not the PA drive.

The VFO drive level is a software parameter in the SI5351 library, and it
controls the output strength of the Raduino VFO.

It has nothing to do with alignment of the PA.

73 Allard PE1NWL


Re: Raduino V1.01 vs V1.14 Birdie at 7.200

EA3IAV
 

I thought drive level was 1mA... during checking of the alignment process i followed instructions given in hfsignals... this has to be updated as i have checked over and over in order to soove this (i even thought my instruments were not ok) ?


Re: VK and ZL group buy of Jack W8TEE VFO boards

 

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Ok Martin, you are on the list.

Bill, VK7MX


On 12/06/2017 10:48 AM, martin Fraser wrote:

Count me in on 2 please

Regards martin?
VK6FEEE


Re: VK and ZL group buy of Jack W8TEE VFO boards

 

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No worries Andrew, Thanks

Bill, VK7MX


On 12/06/2017 10:17 AM, Andrew Merrybard wrote:

Hi Bill,

I have a stock Bitx 40 waiting for me to get back into the shack to mod.
My other hobbies are taking my time ... well that and work :-)

I also have one of Jacks boards and ordered an other board last night.
Just waiting on the final parts to get to work.

I thought I would stick my oar in, because I will want the next boards
being developed, so while I will not be ordering this way this time,
I will in future.

Thanks for working this our for us !

Best wishes

Andrew VK6WAM

On 12 June 2017 at 06:50, William R Maxwell <wrmaxwell@...> wrote:

Over the past 24 hours, Jack and I have been in contact off-group about the possibility of setting up a VK source for the W8TEE BITX40 VFO etc pcb, one that could also be accessed by our cousins in NZ.

I am pleased to advise that Jack and I have been easily able to reach agreement. As a result, I will buy a quantity of boards from him at US$7.50 each, plus shipping on whatever quantity I end up ordering. In turn, I will make the boards available to builders here downunder at their cost to me. In other words, the individual board price will be based on equally sharing my costs by simply dividing my total payment to Jack by the number of boards involved.

The price to each participant will then be that unit price per board, plus the actual costs of my posting the order to the builder. Obviously, the final cost will depend upon how many boards the builder requires and the postage cost to that address from VK7 but we confidently predict that ther will be a saving on the cost of ordering directly from Jack. Fortunately, the Australian customs declaration is comparatively simple document and there is never a queue at my local Post Office and we have a free trade agreement, so ZL orders won't be any hardship at this end.

I am travelling over the next 3 days but will reach my home QTH on Wednesday 14 June. I hope to be able to place the order with Jack within a day or so of getting home. If you would like to take part in this group buy please email me direct at vk7mx@wia dot org dot au, removing the spaces and the dots, obviously.

I intend to buy a few spare for future builders, so don't be too concerned if you come across this post later than 14 June.

73

Bill, VK7MX & VK1MX




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Re: Raduino V1.01 vs V1.14 Birdie at 7.200

 

On Mon, June 12, 2017 09:10, OZ9AEW wrote:
bitx is 100% stock except from a 7808 with .1uf and 2200uf on both input
and output placed between on/off and Raduino board, it reduce tuning click
to nearly nothing, but that 7.200MHz Birdie is really strong !
I have think about rewire everything with shielded cable and solder them
instead of use connectors
Adding capacitors as you did can indeed reduce the tuning click issues,
but will not have an effect on the 7199 kHz birdie.

Regarding the birdie: Have you already tried different VFO drive levels?

In early raduino versions the drive level was set to 2mA, as from v1.05
the default became 4mA but you change change it in the SETTINGS menu
(possible values are 2,4,6,8mA). The correct setting of the drive level
can have a great effect on the strength of the birdie in LSB mode.
It seems there is some variability between BitX radios, most have best
results with 4mA but in some cases a different value is better.

73 Allard PE1NWL


Re: Usb sound card.

Trent Trent
 

Have you got the diagram for the interface by any chance and has anyobe heard about the release date for the uBitx yet


On 12 Jun. 2017 4:11 pm, "Ashhar Farhan" <farhanbox@...> wrote:
it might be a good idea to just remive the rf amps before the mixer. there is too mucb gain for a 7 mhz radio.

- f

On 12 Jun 2017 11:37 a.m., "Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io" <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
If incoming signals are too strong to go through the receiver without distortion, you need to reduce the gain.? The bitx40 has an audio gain control already, that happens at the tail end of the radio.? For really strong signals, we're better off with an RF gain control, RF gain happens at the front end of the receiver near the antenna.? That way we don't overload all those parts of the receiver that happen before the audio gain control.

The first link talks about many different methods of gain control, including two methods of RF gain control.? The one by Don Cantrell where you mess with power into the existing amplifier at Q1 is an elegant solution that probably works just fine.? The second link is Don's blog post about it.? The second RF gain control method is described in post 20538 and 20541 where you add a 10k pot between K2 pin 14 and K1 pin 12, that is a trace that is only used during receive and not during transmit.? The second method is a bit harder to do well, because if you mount the 10k RF gain pot on the front panel it really should have two pieces of coax off to where you cut that trace between K1 and K2 since it is sometimes dealing directly with an extremely low level received signal from the antenna.

Adding a 240 ohm resistor at the antenna might work well enough if you have an antenna tuner between that and the rig to match the rig's 50 ohm transmitter.? I suppose if you are talking to somebody close you want to reduce transmitted power anyway.? But you will be wasting most of the power from the transmitter, better to reduce mike gain (or R136) if you want to cut transmitter power.
?

Jerry



On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:13 pm, John Smith wrote:
Your first link was about amplified audio, and the second was more like what I am talking about with attenuation of RF. When a strong station comes on, they sound distortedly loud even when I turn the volume almost all the way down. My experiment with the resistor softened them enough to eliminate the distortion and sound like most other stations. And I like the audio gain as is from stock. I need it for QSO night.?

On that second link, do you have other ideas along these lines? Or is that my best bet?

?



Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, June 11, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

OZ9AEW
 

no luck here .... have someone on a langue I do not understand here with 9++?


Re: Raduino V1.01 vs V1.14 Birdie at 7.200

OZ9AEW
 

bitx is 100% stock except from a 7808 with .1uf and 2200uf on both input and output placed between on/off and Raduino board, it reduce tuning click to nearly nothing, but that 7.200MHz Birdie is really strong !
I have think about rewire everything with shielded cable and solder them instead of use connectors


Re: BITX40 package size

 

Checked the relay Virtual VRS2H on my board is not polarised.

I have some other brands, checked one I had handy a Panasonic and it is polarised.

BITX40's both relays are wired opposite of each other.

At 12-06-2017, you wrote:

You're probably right.
So Matt's TX rail probably never saw power during the mishap, and none of those parts behind it got damaged.
We're assuming it was a battery lead reversal that blew D7.
?
?

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 08:49 pm, Raj vu2zap wrote:
The relays are polarized type, they have a magnet inside to reduce operating current.
They wont operate with reversed voltage.


Re: Usb sound card.

 

it might be a good idea to just remive the rf amps before the mixer. there is too mucb gain for a 7 mhz radio.

- f

On 12 Jun 2017 11:37 a.m., "Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io" <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
If incoming signals are too strong to go through the receiver without distortion, you need to reduce the gain.? The bitx40 has an audio gain control already, that happens at the tail end of the radio.? For really strong signals, we're better off with an RF gain control, RF gain happens at the front end of the receiver near the antenna.? That way we don't overload all those parts of the receiver that happen before the audio gain control.

The first link talks about many different methods of gain control, including two methods of RF gain control.? The one by Don Cantrell where you mess with power into the existing amplifier at Q1 is an elegant solution that probably works just fine.? The second link is Don's blog post about it.? The second RF gain control method is described in post 20538 and 20541 where you add a 10k pot between K2 pin 14 and K1 pin 12, that is a trace that is only used during receive and not during transmit.? The second method is a bit harder to do well, because if you mount the 10k RF gain pot on the front panel it really should have two pieces of coax off to where you cut that trace between K1 and K2 since it is sometimes dealing directly with an extremely low level received signal from the antenna.

Adding a 240 ohm resistor at the antenna might work well enough if you have an antenna tuner between that and the rig to match the rig's 50 ohm transmitter.? I suppose if you are talking to somebody close you want to reduce transmitted power anyway.? But you will be wasting most of the power from the transmitter, better to reduce mike gain (or R136) if you want to cut transmitter power.
?

Jerry



On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:13 pm, John Smith wrote:
Your first link was about amplified audio, and the second was more like what I am talking about with attenuation of RF. When a strong station comes on, they sound distortedly loud even when I turn the volume almost all the way down. My experiment with the resistor softened them enough to eliminate the distortion and sound like most other stations. And I like the audio gain as is from stock. I need it for QSO night.?

On that second link, do you have other ideas along these lines? Or is that my best bet?

?


Re: Usb sound card.

 

If incoming signals are too strong to go through the receiver without distortion, you need to reduce the gain. ?The bitx40 has an audio gain control already, that happens at the tail end of the radio. ?For really strong signals, we're better off with an RF gain control, RF gain happens at the front end of the receiver near the antenna. ?That way we don't overload all those parts of the receiver that happen before the audio gain control.

The first link talks about many different methods of gain control, including two methods of RF gain control. ?The one by Don Cantrell where you mess with power into the existing amplifier at Q1 is an elegant solution that probably works just fine. ?The second link is Don's blog post about it. ?The second RF gain control method is described in post 20538 and 20541 where you add a 10k pot between K2 pin 14 and K1 pin 12, that is a trace that is only used during receive and not during transmit. ?The second method is a bit harder to do well, because if you mount the 10k RF gain pot on the front panel it really should have two pieces of coax off to where you cut that trace between K1 and K2 since it is sometimes dealing directly with an extremely low level received signal from the antenna.

Adding a 240 ohm resistor at the antenna might work well enough if you have an antenna tuner between that and the rig to match the rig's 50 ohm transmitter. ?I suppose if you are talking to somebody close you want to reduce transmitted power anyway. ?But you will be wasting most of the power from the transmitter, better to reduce mike gain (or R136) if you want to cut transmitter power.
?

Jerry



On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:13 pm, John Smith wrote:
Your first link was about amplified audio, and the second was more like what I am talking about with attenuation of RF. When a strong station comes on, they sound distortedly loud even when I turn the volume almost all the way down. My experiment with the resistor softened them enough to eliminate the distortion and sound like most other stations. And I like the audio gain as is from stock. I need it for QSO night.?

On that second link, do you have other ideas along these lines? Or is that my best bet?

?


Re: Usb sound card.

 

Your first link was about amplified audio, and the second was more like what I am talking about with attenuation of RF. When a strong station comes on, they sound distortedly loud even when I turn the volume almost all the way down. My experiment with the resistor softened them enough to eliminate the distortion and sound like most other stations. And I like the audio gain as is from stock. I need it for QSO night.?

On that second link, do you have other ideas along these lines? Or is that my best bet?


On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:31 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
Not quite sure what you're trying to do, but here's some links on implementing an RF gain control.
? /g/BITX20/topic/4238539
???

?


Re: Usb sound card.

 

Not quite sure what you're trying to do, but here's some links on implementing an RF gain control.
? /g/BITX20/topic/4238539
???



On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 09:21 pm, John Smith wrote:
I previously made the FLDGI CW keying circuit, and it works great. But better than that is using the rig controls for serial port PTT. Tests with the relay module and the Usb to serial adapter Indicates it's working very well. Next is the audio. I plan to use the Easy Digi schematic design for the audio connections with 600ohm audio transformers, and a 2kR across the lines and a 104C on the + line, of the radio side. The only hard part seems to be wiring all those stereo audio mini jacks. 3 on both the interface box, and the radio enclosure. Audio in, out, and PTT, and hard wire the audio adapter. Plus Allard's new wires from the Nano.

Has anyone thought about RF signal attenuation? I tried a 240ohm resistor inline with the antenna to better handle the bigger stations near by. It gave me the results I was looking for, but again it seems too easy for a proper solution. If there is nothing wrong with that, I might use a switch to bring it in and out of circuit.

I just happened to think that the attenuation would be both ways. Humm.

?


Re: Usb sound card.

 

I previously made the FLDGI CW keying circuit, and it works great. But better than that is using the rig controls for serial port PTT. Tests with the relay module and the Usb to serial adapter Indicates it's working very well. Next is the audio. I plan to use the Easy Digi schematic design for the audio connections with 600ohm audio transformers, and a 2kR across the lines and a 104C on the + line, of the radio side. The only hard part seems to be wiring all those stereo audio mini jacks. 3 on both the interface box, and the radio enclosure. Audio in, out, and PTT, and hard wire the audio adapter. Plus Allard's new wires from the Nano.

Has anyone thought about RF signal attenuation? I tried a 240ohm resistor inline with the antenna to better handle the bigger stations near by. It gave me the results I was looking for, but again it seems too easy for a proper solution. If there is nothing wrong with that, I might use a switch to bring it in and out of circuit.

I just happened to think that the attenuation would be both ways. Humm.


Re: BITX40 package size

 

You're probably right.
So Matt's TX rail probably never saw power during the mishap, and none of those parts behind it got damaged.
We're assuming it was a battery lead reversal that blew D7.
?
?


On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 08:49 pm, Raj vu2zap wrote:
The relays are polarized type, they have a magnet inside to reduce operating current.
They wont operate with reversed voltage.

?


Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, June 11, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

N9ARZ was 59 here in Coralville, IA but didn't hear me. Maybe next time.
John AD0RW


Re: BITX40 package size

 

The relays are polarized type, they have a magnet inside to reduce operating current.
They wont operate with reversed voltage.

At 12-06-2017, you wrote:
The NPN's powered from the "TX" 12v rail do not get power unless the PTT switch is pressed to transmit.
I suggest you concentrate on the receiver first.


Colour TFT + Touch controlled VFO/BFO

 

I have put preliminary information on my cheap Mcufriend 2.4" TFT based VFO/BFO with touch controls at vu2spf.blogspot.com
More pictures and program to follow. Soon I will be uploading its video too.

73

VU2SPF
SP Bhatnagar


Re: Calling West Coast BITX operators

 

I had a QSO with Don ND6T in California about half
an hour early... my first one with someone using a
BITX40! I'm still waiting for my BITX40, so I was
running 100W. Don was fairly weak... about 43.

I later heard K7RTV, KG7UMW and N6QW although I
thought I heard him saying he was not QRP. I heard
ND6T again in a QSO during which he peaked up to 59.
There were quite a few weaker stations whose call
signs I couldn't copy.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
CN88