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Re: Wiring up/assembly questions

 

Clark Martin
KK6ISP

On Mar 15, 2017, at 1:33 PM, richard kappler <richkappler@...> wrote:

All,

I'm a computer geek, not an EE, so some of this is not obvious to me.

1. The volume pot has 5 leads, 3 around the circumference and 2 out the back. Am I correct that the two out the back are for the on/off function?
Correct.


2. I've seen mentioned here and on a coupla youtube vids that one needs to wind ones wires. Is that all wires? And why do we do that?
Do you mean twisting the wires. It reduces signal coupling, IE RF getting into the audio via the pot leads for example.


3. I seem to recall reading in one of the recent posts that the instructions at HFsigs are incorrect for one of the wires, but darned if I can find the post. Can somebody shoot me a clue?

4. This is my first ever build, so I'm doing it in a plastic case, essentially storage bin with the slightly larger footprint as the shipping container but about 4 times as tall, to make it easier on me (no workshop at the moment) and to save a few shekels. There has been a lot of talk lately about heat issues, so I've ordered a heat sink for the VR on the raduino board, and concurrently ordered a pair of small (25mm iirc) fans for the case. I intend to use one to blow directly on the AMP heatsink, perhaps the other to exhaust air from the case. Any issue with just tapping off the 12V main for these? Obviously it would work voltage wise, but would it interfere with the radio?
On caution about the storage bins. The type of plastic they are commonly made with grows brittle with age and UV exposure. In normal use it takes some time for this to be a problem. But drilling holes in it will cause trouble sooner.

I think one fan should do, if that is even necessary. Drawing off the radio¡¯s 12V supply shouldn¡¯t be a problem. You might want to check once it¡¯s all working to see if the fan causes in noise in transmit or receive. Try monitoring an ongoing QSO and disconnect / connect the fan to see if you can hear anything.

You may want to run the fan off the transmit power contact on the relay. Ideally the fan would run a few seconds longer but it should work pretty well this way.


Re: Nano in US, Cheap and Free Shipping

 

Mike

No sales tax here in Or. I ordered the 5 pac.

Thanks,

Randy, K7AGE

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Michael Hagen <motdog@...> wrote:

I am in Ca. I would have to pay tax!

Mike, WA6ISP



Re: VFO Display - DDS

Jack Purdum
 

The Beta I refer to below is for the B40 rig, as I'm using an AD9850 and a TFT display. The AA code for the QRPGuys PCB is stable.

Jack, W8TEE



From: W6IDS <w6ids@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS

?
Yes you did, by George.?? It appears I glossed over it in my haste Jack.? My bad.
?
Now, to be patient ¨C I¡¯m assuming you¡¯re still developing.? I recall the picture for sure, but did not make the
connection with your message.? Shucks. . . . it¡¯s stuff like this that makes it painfully obvious how much I do
not know today, still, at 73. Well, it just makes it nicer to have resources such as yourself.
?
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN
?
?
Just to show you I did find it:
***
Was on vacation with no internet...a promise to XYL.

I used the MAR-3SM+ part for the antenna analyzer (AA) project because it's easier to find. Right now, I'm using the same AA board for the display/VFO and it seems to be doing well taking the VFO output via RG174 to Farhan's input pins. That said, Farrukh is redesigning the board to bring almost all of the Arduino Mega 2560 Pro Mini pins out to header pins to make it easier to experiment with the BITX40 (I'm lazy...B40). You can see pictures of the AA board that supports the AD9850/Mega and the TFT display by looking at the assembly manual on QRPGuys.com (look for the Antenna Analyzer menu option). The beta for the new board is being tested and I would guess it will be three weeks before we have the "real" board done. I have the code done so that it will autosize to a 2.4", 2.8", 3.5" and 3.95" mcufriend.com TFT displays. That should give some case flexibility.
?
Dennis Kidder (W6DQ and my co-author on the Arduino Projects book) is working on a CW and AGC options for the B40. I'm working on the code for a capacitive touch keyer (from the Projects book) which will do away with the need to drag a paddle with you. Setting CW speed and other menu options as well as tuning it done via a rotary encoder. The code provides for three CW messages to be tied to 3 NO switches on the top of the case. Each switch is tied to one of up to 50 canned messages (changeable at runtime). Press one of the switches and that message is sent via CW. The currently-selected message is displayed at the bottom of the display. It also monitors input voltage and has an S meter. (A repost of the display is below.) I don't know what we'll charge for the board, but it is a little bigger than the AA board to accommodate the different display sizes. All I can say at this point is that it will be less than $10.
?
Jack, W8TEE
***
?
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Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS
?
Yes, and I have posted a picture of it before.

Jack, W8TEE



From: W6IDS <w6ids@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:25 PM
Subject: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS
?
?
Hello All,
?
Just a curiosity question here.
?
Has anyone developed a color display for the VFO showing S-meter, modes, PO, etc?\
for the BITX projects?
?
I¡¯ve seen references to such a display, at one time or another, you tube and the like,
but no real project info or perhaps info on a related kit.
?
So, thought I¡¯d ask and see what results.
?
Howard W6IDS
?
?



Re: Raduino

 

Quite often, the postage from US to Canada is a lot more than the item itself.

73 Ken

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 4:43 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
This was a long time ago, in the 1990's or so. Our first class rates have gone up to $.49 and Canada's is $.85 last time I looked.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Ken <chase8043@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Raduino

USPS rates to Canada have tripled in last couple years.

73
Ken VA3ABN

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I remember mailing stuff from Canada to the US when US postage rate was $.24 and Canada was around $.45. When asked why rates were so high in Canada, our Canadian friends would tell us is was $.02 for delivery and $.43 for storage. Given that it often took 3-4 weeks, it may be true.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Raduino

Ah, yes.? I ordered a kite string winder that took 3 months to arrive.? I ate a lot of lousy cereal to get it, even at 7 yrs old I wondered if it was coming "slow boat from China" (1963)

:-)

Larry
KB3CUF?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Mark Underkofler <mark@...> wrote:
I noticed that the shipper from China on eBay listed the Delivery Estimate to be between March 31 and May 9.? Wow, that reminds me of the wait for stuff I ordered from Battle Creek, Michigan when I was a child!? Almost two months seems like a very long wait time, if it is indeed true.
Mark, W5MCU








Re: Raduino

Jack Purdum
 

This was a long time ago, in the 1990's or so. Our first class rates have gone up to $.49 and Canada's is $.85 last time I looked.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Ken <chase8043@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Raduino

USPS rates to Canada have tripled in last couple years.

73
Ken VA3ABN

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I remember mailing stuff from Canada to the US when US postage rate was $.24 and Canada was around $.45. When asked why rates were so high in Canada, our Canadian friends would tell us is was $.02 for delivery and $.43 for storage. Given that it often took 3-4 weeks, it may be true.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Raduino

Ah, yes.? I ordered a kite string winder that took 3 months to arrive.? I ate a lot of lousy cereal to get it, even at 7 yrs old I wondered if it was coming "slow boat from China" (1963)

:-)

Larry
KB3CUF?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Mark Underkofler <mark@...> wrote:
I noticed that the shipper from China on eBay listed the Delivery Estimate to be between March 31 and May 9.? Wow, that reminds me of the wait for stuff I ordered from Battle Creek, Michigan when I was a child!? Almost two months seems like a very long wait time, if it is indeed true.
Mark, W5MCU







Wiring up/assembly questions

richard kappler
 

All,

I'm a computer geek, not an EE, so some of this is not obvious to me.

1.? The volume pot has 5 leads, 3 around the circumference and 2 out the back. Am I correct that the two out the back are for the on/off function?

2.? I've seen mentioned here and on a coupla youtube vids that one needs to wind ones wires. Is that all wires? And why do we do that?

3. I seem to recall reading in one of the recent posts that the instructions at HFsigs are incorrect for one of the wires, but darned if I can find the post. Can somebody shoot me a clue?

4. This is my first ever build, so I'm doing it in a plastic case, essentially storage bin with the slightly larger footprint as the shipping container but about 4 times as tall, to make it easier on me (no workshop at the moment) and to save a few shekels. There has been a lot of talk lately about heat issues, so I've ordered a heat sink for the VR on the raduino board, and concurrently ordered a pair of small (25mm iirc) fans for the case. I intend to use one to blow directly on the AMP heatsink, perhaps the other to exhaust air from the case. Any issue with just tapping off the 12V main for these? Obviously it would work voltage wise, but would it interfere with the radio?

regards, Richard - W2KAP


Bitx40 TX Pop

philip yates
 

I know its been discussed, but I am struggling to find a solution to the TX pop. Anyone ???


Taken me a while to get started as I had to start ordering components, so I could actually

do some modding, ?couple of nice resistor, capacitor and electrolytic kits now on the shelf,?

threw my old collection of parts away when we moved.


Thanks

Phil-G7BZD


Re: VFO Display - DDS

W6IDS
 

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?
Yes you did, by George.?? It appears I glossed over it in my haste Jack.? My bad.
?
Now, to be patient ¨C I¡¯m assuming you¡¯re still developing.? I recall the picture for sure, but did not make the
connection with your message.? Shucks. . . . it¡¯s stuff like this that makes it painfully obvious how much I do
not know today, still, at 73. Well, it just makes it nicer to have resources such as yourself.
?
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN
?
?
Just to show you I did find it:
***
Was on vacation with no internet...a promise to XYL.

I used the MAR-3SM+ part for the antenna analyzer (AA) project because it's easier to find. Right now, I'm using the same AA board for the display/VFO and it seems to be doing well taking the VFO output via RG174 to Farhan's input pins. That said, Farrukh is redesigning the board to bring almost all of the Arduino Mega 2560 Pro Mini pins out to header pins to make it easier to experiment with the BITX40 (I'm lazy...B40). You can see pictures of the AA board that supports the AD9850/Mega and the TFT display by looking at the assembly manual on QRPGuys.com (look for the Antenna Analyzer menu option). The beta for the new board is being tested and I would guess it will be three weeks before we have the "real" board done. I have the code done so that it will autosize to a 2.4", 2.8", 3.5" and 3.95" mcufriend.com TFT displays. That should give some case flexibility.
?
Dennis Kidder (W6DQ and my co-author on the Arduino Projects book) is working on a CW and AGC options for the B40. I'm working on the code for a capacitive touch keyer (from the Projects book) which will do away with the need to drag a paddle with you. Setting CW speed and other menu options as well as tuning it done via a rotary encoder. The code provides for three CW messages to be tied to 3 NO switches on the top of the case. Each switch is tied to one of up to 50 canned messages (changeable at runtime). Press one of the switches and that message is sent via CW. The currently-selected message is displayed at the bottom of the display. It also monitors input voltage and has an S meter. (A repost of the display is below.) I don't know what we'll charge for the board, but it is a little bigger than the AA board to accommodate the different display sizes. All I can say at this point is that it will be less than $10.
?
Jack, W8TEE
***
?
?

From: Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS
?
Yes, and I have posted a picture of it before.

Jack, W8TEE



From: W6IDS <w6ids@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:25 PM
Subject: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS
?
?
Hello All,
?
Just a curiosity question here.
?
Has anyone developed a color display for the VFO showing S-meter, modes, PO, etc?\
for the BITX projects?
?
I¡¯ve seen references to such a display, at one time or another, you tube and the like,
but no real project info or perhaps info on a related kit.
?
So, thought I¡¯d ask and see what results.
?
Howard W6IDS
?
?


Re: Order has not yet arrived

 

Phil

Thanks, 12 days, the best that I have seen.

Randy, K7AGE


On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 11:50 AM, <phil.erickson@...> wrote:

Hi Randy,

? Here's another data point to add to your list (sorry for not responding earlier):

W1PJE????

SN: 2-883

Tester: either "O" or "A" ?(not sure)

Ordered: 1/25/17

Shipped: 1/30/17

Arrived: ?2/6/17

Num of days: 12


73, Phil ?W1PJE




Re: VFO Display - DDS

W6IDS
 

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New to the project.? I¡¯ll go back into the Group Home and rummage around a little for info.
Had not seen anything initially but will slow down a little <GRIN>.
?
After posting my message, I then saw the message for the RTC03 controller with reference
to the BITX.
?
Again, thanks Sir!
?
Howard W6IDS
Richmond, IN
?

From: Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS
?
Yes, and I have posted a picture of it before.

Jack, W8TEE



From: W6IDS <w6ids@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:25 PM
Subject: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS
?
?
Hello All,
?
Just a curiosity question here.
?
Has anyone developed a color display for the VFO showing S-meter, modes, PO, etc?\
for the BITX projects?
?
I¡¯ve seen references to such a display, at one time or another, you tube and the like,
but no real project info or perhaps info on a related kit.
?
So, thought I¡¯d ask and see what results.
?
Howard W6IDS
?

?


Re: Raduino

 

USPS rates to Canada have tripled in last couple years.

73
Ken VA3ABN

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I remember mailing stuff from Canada to the US when US postage rate was $.24 and Canada was around $.45. When asked why rates were so high in Canada, our Canadian friends would tell us is was $.02 for delivery and $.43 for storage. Given that it often took 3-4 weeks, it may be true.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Raduino

Ah, yes.? I ordered a kite string winder that took 3 months to arrive.? I ate a lot of lousy cereal to get it, even at 7 yrs old I wondered if it was coming "slow boat from China" (1963)

:-)

Larry
KB3CUF?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Mark Underkofler <mark@...> wrote:
I noticed that the shipper from China on eBay listed the Delivery Estimate to be between March 31 and May 9.? Wow, that reminds me of the wait for stuff I ordered from Battle Creek, Michigan when I was a child!? Almost two months seems like a very long wait time, if it is indeed true.
Mark, W5MCU





Re: Raduino

Michael Davis
 

The Bitx kits are on a kayak, heading to you right now. Paddle faster!

Sent from Mike's iPad WA1MAD


Re: Raduino

Jack Purdum
 

I remember mailing stuff from Canada to the US when US postage rate was $.24 and Canada was around $.45. When asked why rates were so high in Canada, our Canadian friends would tell us is was $.02 for delivery and $.43 for storage. Given that it often took 3-4 weeks, it may be true.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Larry Acklin <acklin@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Raduino

Ah, yes.? I ordered a kite string winder that took 3 months to arrive.? I ate a lot of lousy cereal to get it, even at 7 yrs old I wondered if it was coming "slow boat from China" (1963)

:-)

Larry
KB3CUF?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Mark Underkofler <mark@...> wrote:
I noticed that the shipper from China on eBay listed the Delivery Estimate to be between March 31 and May 9.? Wow, that reminds me of the wait for stuff I ordered from Battle Creek, Michigan when I was a child!? Almost two months seems like a very long wait time, if it is indeed true.
Mark, W5MCU




Re: Order has not yet arrived

 

Hi Randy,

? Here's another data point to add to your list (sorry for not responding earlier):

W1PJE????

SN: 2-883

Tester: either "O" or "A" ?(not sure)

Ordered: 1/25/17

Shipped: 1/30/17

Arrived: ?2/6/17

Num of days: 12


73, Phil ?W1PJE



Re: Nano in US, Cheap and Free Shipping

 

I am in Ca. I would have to pay tax!

Mike, WA6ISP


Re: VFO Display - DDS

Jack Purdum
 

Yes, and I have posted a picture of it before.

Jack, W8TEE



From: W6IDS <w6ids@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 2:25 PM
Subject: [BITX20] VFO Display - DDS

?
Hello All,
?
Just a curiosity question here.
?
Has anyone developed a color display for the VFO showing S-meter, modes, PO, etc?\
for the BITX projects?
?
I¡¯ve seen references to such a display, at one time or another, you tube and the like,
but no real project info or perhaps info on a related kit.
?
So, thought I¡¯d ask and see what results.
?
Howard W6IDS
?



Re: Raduino

 

Search and then pick US only for US suppliers.? They usually charge more. But you will get them in a few day or week.

Order 1 from them, 5 from China.

I usually see a month on the ones that predict 2 months.? They don't want bad feedback because of shipping that they can't control?

Also, I have used the "Mini Pro", it is cheaper, but you have to buy a serial programmer board.? They do not have the USB connector.

Probably not worth it, as cheap as Nano has become?


Mike, WA6ISP


VFO Display - DDS

W6IDS
 

¿ªÔÆÌåÓý

?
Hello All,
?
Just a curiosity question here.
?
Has anyone developed a color display for the VFO showing S-meter, modes, PO, etc?\
for the BITX projects?
?
I¡¯ve seen references to such a display, at one time or another, you tube and the like,
but no real project info or perhaps info on a related kit.
?
So, thought I¡¯d ask and see what results.
?
Howard W6IDS
?


Thought this looked cool for the BITX40

Mark Underkofler
 



Re: Raduino

 

Ah, yes.? I ordered a kite string winder that took 3 months to arrive.? I ate a lot of lousy cereal to get it, even at 7 yrs old I wondered if it was coming "slow boat from China" (1963)

:-)

Larry
KB3CUF?

On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:00 PM, Mark Underkofler <mark@...> wrote:

I noticed that the shipper from China on eBay listed the Delivery Estimate to be between March 31 and May 9.? Wow, that reminds me of the wait for stuff I ordered from Battle Creek, Michigan when I was a child!? Almost two months seems like a very long wait time, if it is indeed true.

Mark, W5MCU