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Re: Bitx40 and PLJ-6LED Frequency Counter
Yes, Raj, I think it is though I haven't heard that from him.
Regarding the PLJ-6LD counter, there is an interesting video on YouTube examining and demo-ing the unit. Google it. I have found a web page with the manual too, in English. You can download it but it is the Chinese version. Only the web page has the English version (in PDF). Hope this helps. john AD5YE |
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Re: lcd 3.5 display help sought
G4NQX
Ooops should read pulldown as diagram. Most of the code at the moment is display stuff. The icon.h can be deleted I suspect as it was development penguin pic but i didn't spend time looking too hard at the code. It could do your head in ! Are you using this on the bitX as is, or are you building a featured multiband bitx. |
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Re: AGC working ...
Noel Which AGC circuit did you use? Randy On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 2:49 PM, noel pakihi <tupakihi@...> wrote:
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Re: USPS Tracking
OT.
All foreign mail has no zip+4 code on it which is used for routing and delivery in the US. It is all routed (via image) to ACS for US routing. Each section of the country has a central database of names and addresses where everything is composted and assimilated. There is a central depository in Saint Louis, MO which has all the USPS names and addresses in the whole country. This is where real-time updating of the databases is done. If the address label was wet or abraded a bit, it may have been hard to read. This slows things down a little as someone has to examine and encode it more or less by hand. But referring to the actual mail is a last resort. Most of the time an image is examined, generally by a robot. I noticed the address label from India was an inkjet printout of the order. It is possible that it became a bit illegible for some reason. It happens. Which is probably a good enough reason to retain the Indian tracking number -- it may be useful in later identification. Nowadays things are pretty much all automated. I remember well the old LSMs (Letter Sorting Machines) which used a Z80 and 4K magnetic core to control 4 machines. That is 48 clerks encoding, each at 60 letters per minute. They entered the code and the machine counted down through a rotary system until it was time to drop the letter in a bin. That machine had the single most boring manual I have ever read! But it lasted and was used for over 40 years... As to where anybody's specific package is...usually it is in your home country awaiting customs or routing. HFSignals does the packaging and delivers it to their PO. The PO sorts by destination and sends it to the airport. It is loaded on a plane is short order and sent to all the other countries. After it gets to the various airports, the Indian PO has no interest in it anymore. So if the Indian tracking number gives an airport address (Mumbai is the central dispatch office), it has left the country by air and is at least at another airport. After that, it is up to that country to track it. One could get international tracking, but it is very expensive and most people pass it up. Incidentally, India is not alone in this; most countries handle their outbound mail the same way. except it may go by seapost rather than by air. If there is a problem with delivery, HFSignals generally cannot help. It the is a problem with the rig after you have examined it, then by all means contact them as per instructions elsewhere in this list. Note though, that they have no (i.e. zero) control over damage in transit. Taking care of that is a generous gesture to say the least. john AD5YE |
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Re: Possible PA low output problem.
I have replaced the IRF510 and this what I found with a cheap Chinese ESR component tester. The original had C=388pf, Vt= 3.7. Replacement has C=1.13nF, Vt= 2.7. Upon the first key up, the speaker screeched and the display dimmed out to blank. I had to turn down the Bias by 25% to make it work right. Retested the PA with 10A setting on MM, set it to 00.10, shouted radio into mic and it read as much as 00.30. The monitored signal sounded a little less buzzy and louder. And read as much as 3 watts on meter. And the heatsink got warm. All with basic 12V shared. I read some older posts about low PA output, that sounded like mine, and found one from Farhan saying 1 amp is the peak. The multimeter might not be measuring fast enough. I think it's an improvement. But just a small one. Can some of the people who had this issue comment please? |
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interference from SW broadcasters above 7200
Hi all,
I've just assembled my new BITX40. I'm receiving a lot of strong AM carriers in the European ham section (7000-7200), that are actually from broadcast stations in the 7200-7450 section (41m band). For example: a strong station (I believe Voice of China) at 7285 produces an AM carrier at 7177. A French station at 7375 gives a carrier at 7155. This happens especially at night. I'm wondering, do other European users experience the same problem? What's the cause and what could be done to eliminate this out-of-band interference? 73, Allard PE1NWL |
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lcd 3.5 display help sought
I have been following PD8W (Willem) progress on his build out of a lcd display/si5351. His code and hardware are listed at PD8W.com. After some hard work I have the display working - and looks like his does on his web site. I am at the point where he is using momentary pushbuttons to cycle selections from the screen however am a bit lost as to how the buttons are actually wired up. I sent him a couple of requests for help but he must be out of town as I haven't gotten and feedback. Could someone take a look on his web page to see what I need to do? The sketch is also there and like I said it compiles. My first issue to overcome what understanding how to wire the lcd and found that in the mcufriend ino. Woohoo the display showed up on the lcd. Let me know if you need anything further. Note - I did hook it up to the bitx and the encoder does change freqs so that part is also working 73 Art |
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Re: Using STM32 board with Arduino IDE
Jack Purdum
I think DuWayne will agree that there's only so much you can do in a library to speed things up. Some libraries use floating point math and, without a math coprocessor to help things along, it is going to be slower than a library that uses integer math, ceteris paribus. A library can be written in assembler and someone who is good at assembler code can make a difference, too. However, I think the biggest single factor the uC's clock speed. I saw a graphics program with a given library run on a Nano then the same program run on a Teensy 3.6. I would say there was a 10x advantage to the Teensy. I can't be sure, but I think the library used fp math, so the test really isn't fair in that the Teensy does have hardware fp on it. That said, the Teensy sells for $29 while the Nano is less than $3. I have a Teensy 3.5 and 3.6, but haven't needed the horsepower yet. I can say that I've used the Arduino IDE to successfully compile programs for both Teensys. Jack, W8TEE From: G4NQX <tasmod@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Using STM32 board with Arduino IDE DuWayne, Does the graphics library speed up the graphics by a significant amount? ?? It certainly looks interesting. I followed your journey with the SNAjr with interest.? I was doing something similar but eventually made up the Simple Scalar Network Analyser as it met my needs.
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Re: Using STM32 board with Arduino IDE
G4NQX
DuWayne, Does the graphics library speed up the graphics by a significant amount? ?? It certainly looks interesting. I followed your journey with the SNAjr with interest.? I was doing something similar but eventually made up the Simple Scalar Network Analyser as it met my needs. |
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Re: Using STM32 board with Arduino IDE
I have been playing with a couple of different 32 bit alternatives to the 8 bit Arduino Nano that I had been using in most of my projects. I had tried several of the Teensy models both the LC and the version 3.2. They worked well but are more expensive than the $3 Nano. I just received a couple very inexpensive stm-32 boards I ordered on eBay.
Search for STM32F103C8T6-ARM-STM32-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Module-For-Arduino and you will find multiple sellers, with prices starting at under $3. You will have to use either a USB-serial converter like with a Pro-Mini or a STlink programmer ( under $5 ). There is also the option of using either method to burn a bootloader directly to the board, and then program through the micro USB port on the board. I replced the Teensy in the breadboard I had setup for the controller/display for my latest project. The results are very favorable, it looks like this will be the replacement for the Nano in future projects. I updated my blog page with a picture of the breadboard with the stm-32 in use. DuWayne KV4QB -- DuWayne? KV4QB |
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PC board grounding ...
I thought the BITX40 PC board stand-offs would be suitable earthing points. But there is no continuity between them and the battery or psu ground.? Even the DDS stand-offs are not connected to battery ground. I made the AGC circuit and used a stand-off for earth but it didn't work. Then I connected it to battery earth and it works fine. What are the consequences of grounding the stand-offs to battery / psu earth? Thanks - Noel l |
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Re: Possible PA low output problem.
The hour is to debug an amp. ?Getting all that going on the Raduino and sorting out complete test procedures for the Bitx40 would take a month or two. ?Designing it is not trivial, but once done it would be very cheap to reproduce. ?All these tools would be available to the experimenter for other projects. ?Could also be a standalone board as you say with Si5351, display, and Nano also, but some of the trivial stuff may as well be on the main board so nobody is sitting on their hands for an extra month.. ?Just an N5ESE type RF probe sitting out on a corner of the board would be very nice. ?There is electronics out in the world designed to be easily self-debugged for most problems, and it's a joy to butt heads with. ?Most projects, commercial or amateur, simply don't put the time into it, and most consumers wouldn't bother to mess with it anyway. ?But on a significantly complex project like this with thousands of copies going out to experimenters, we either put the time into tools, or put way more time into playing wack-a-mole as the various problems come up. ? Just because you have not heard of this being done does not mean it is unreasonable. ?How would you solve the issue of some new ham with a voltmeter and a Bitx40 that doesn't quite work? Jerry, KE7ER On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 12:05 pm, Todd K7TFC wrote:
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Re: Possible PA low output problem.
On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 11:35 am, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
But it would take an hour to figure this out if we had a few extra R's and C's and a bit of Raduino code up. ?Not a week and $1000 worth of lab gear. ?Well, why not just go ahead and figure it out and post your work to the group? I've never heard of a kit or fully-wired rig come with such rudimentary test facilities before, so what you ask borders on the unreasonable (especially since you've already proposed it before). If "green squirts" will use the BitX40 as a first experience in homebrew experimentation, then they will need some test gear that can be used on other projects, not built into just one. The test functions you propose could readily fit on a small stand-alone pcb, and as you suggest would not take much time for a more experienced Ham--such as yourself--to design and offer, either for sale or as an open-source design. 73, Todd K7TFC |
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Re: Possible PA low output problem.
Jack Purdum
Jerry: As you may know, I'm not an EE guy and when the magic white smoke gets out, I'm hard-pressed to figure out a way to put it back in. However, you know what's going on. Why don't you do a Muppet board and an article on what you've suggested below. I know QRP Quarterly would love to have such an article. Put pads on the board for input/output for those things you're interested in (e.g., a pad for the probe, pads for necessary Nano I/O pins, etc.). The LPF could sit on the board as well as whatever else you think belongs there. I have the time for such a project but, alas, no brains. Give it some serious thought... Jack, W8TEE From: Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 2:35 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Possible PA low output problem. As I have said several times already, I'd like to see these boards going out with some basic tools. ? 1) ?1khz square wave out of a Raduino digital pin to inject into the microphone, with suitable attenuator.? 2) ?Wide ranging RF from a spare Si5351 channel, with an attenuator that can give a range of output levels. 3) ?An RF voltage probe, such as the one N5ESE described. ?That design has been around for most of a century. 4) ?A low pass filter to look at DC levels in RF circuits HFSignals could make money selling those parts in a bag for a dollar as an option with the Bitx40, to be dead bugged into the ground plane somewhere. ?It's a dozen resistors and caps and a schottky signal diode. ?Ideally, the board someday gets laid out to have those parts always in place, so we can just tell folks having trouble what gets shorted to what and where to measure with the rf probe. ?Some minor adjustments to the Raduino code would be needed to get the two signal generators up, they would normally be shut down to avoid crosstalk. Perhaps if I ever get a Bitx40, I'll get some of that going when I have some time. ?And write up a debug procedure. Could be that R136 between Q13 and Q14 in the final got left set too low (or has a bit of dirt on the wiper), that determines the drive level into the IRF510. ?And twiddling that pot is a lot safer than playing with 20v into the IRF510. ?But remember where it was set, it was more than likely set there for a reason. This post has a simple oscillator that VE7BEE successully used for transmitting CW. ?Perhaps build that up and wire it to the mic input. ?Should give 6 or 7 watts out the final. ? ?/g/BITX20/message/20638? From my simulation, it looks like you should get full power out to the dummy load if you inject around 0.1 volts pk-to-pk at 7.2mhz into the base of Q13 through a series 0.1uF cap, and with the drive level at R136 set to full throttle. ?That and the numbers in my LTSpice simulation post should allow somebody with a scope and a 7.2mhz signal generator some idea what an amp is to figure out if your final is working properly. ? But it would take an hour to figure this out if we had a few extra R's and C's and a bit of Raduino code up. ?Not a week and $1000 worth of lab gear. ?And so long as I'm on this rant, will reiterate that I'd like to see pads for a prescaler and an AD8307 on the main board (and parts available in an optional bag), so we could include an freq counter and a Sweeperino and the ability to look at low level RF in that tool kit. ?Oh, and that capacitance meter of post 19453, required no additional hardware. ?Measuring voltage on a Raduino ADC pin would also be very useful in the field. ?This is aimed at budget minded experimenters, not appliance operators. ?Nothing is quite so discouraging to some green squirt as to be told "Oh, it's easy, read this book, you'll figure it out.". Sometimes it isn't easy, especially if all you have is a voltmeter, and your dad works sacking grain. ?Some of us can still remember having been there.? Jerry, KE7ER? On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:11 am, John Smith wrote: Aside from trying a different electret mic, how could I test the audio input circuitry? ?
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Re: Possible PA low output problem.
As I have said several times already, I'd like to see these boards going out with some basic tools. ? 1) ?1khz square wave out of a Raduino digital pin to inject into the microphone, with suitable attenuator.? 2) ?Wide ranging RF from a spare Si5351 channel, with an attenuator that can give a range of output levels. 3) ?An RF voltage probe, such as the one N5ESE described. ?That design has been around for most of a century. 4) ?A low pass filter to look at DC levels in RF circuits HFSignals could make money selling those parts in a bag for a dollar as an option with the Bitx40, to be dead bugged into the ground plane somewhere. ?It's a dozen resistors and caps and a schottky signal diode. ?Ideally, the board someday gets laid out to have those parts always in place, so we can just tell folks having trouble what gets shorted to what and where to measure with the rf probe. ?Some minor adjustments to the Raduino code would be needed to get the two signal generators up, they would normally be shut down to avoid crosstalk. Perhaps if I ever get a Bitx40, I'll get some of that going when I have some time. ?And write up a debug procedure. Could be that R136 between Q13 and Q14 in the final got left set too low (or has a bit of dirt on the wiper), that determines the drive level into the IRF510. ?And twiddling that pot is a lot safer than playing with 20v into the IRF510. ?But remember where it was set, it was more than likely set there for a reason. This post has a simple oscillator that VE7BEE successully used for transmitting CW. ?Perhaps build that up and wire it to the mic input. ?Should give 6 or 7 watts out the final. ? ?/g/BITX20/message/20638? From my simulation, it looks like you should get full power out to the dummy load if you inject around 0.1 volts pk-to-pk at 7.2mhz into the base of Q13 through a series 0.1uF cap, and with the drive level at R136 set to full throttle. ?That and the numbers in my LTSpice simulation post should allow somebody with a scope and a 7.2mhz signal generator some idea what an amp is to figure out if your final is working properly. ? But it would take an hour to figure this out if we had a few extra R's and C's and a bit of Raduino code up. ?Not a week and $1000 worth of lab gear. ?And so long as I'm on this rant, will reiterate that I'd like to see pads for a prescaler and an AD8307 on the main board (and parts available in an optional bag), so we could include an freq counter and a Sweeperino and the ability to look at low level RF in that tool kit. ?Oh, and that capacitance meter of post 19453, required no additional hardware. ?Measuring voltage on a Raduino ADC pin would also be very useful in the field. ?This is aimed at budget minded experimenters, not appliance operators. ?Nothing is quite so discouraging to some green squirt as to be told "Oh, it's easy, read this book, you'll figure it out.". Sometimes it isn't easy, especially if all you have is a voltmeter, and your dad works sacking grain. ?Some of us can still remember having been there.? Jerry, KE7ER? On Sat, Feb 4, 2017 at 10:11 am, John Smith wrote:
Aside from trying a different electret mic, how could I test the audio input circuitry? ? |
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Re: Frequency display refresh (or lack thereof)
Jack Purdum
This helps identify the interrupt pins for the Arduino family:
Jack, W8TEE From: Dr Fred Hambrecht <AAR4MI@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, February 4, 2017 12:44 PM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Frequency display refresh (or lack thereof) Only pins 2 and 3 are interrupt driven. You mentioned you changed pins. May be worth a look. ? v/r Fred W4JLE ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Torraca Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2017 10:27 To: [email protected] Subject: [BITX20] Frequency display refresh (or lack thereof) ? Good morning all, I'm having a problem with an Si5351/Arduino nano kit that I'm hoping to add to my pre-Raduino BITX40. I'm using the code site.? The trouble is that the LCD only refreshes with the current frequency when the button is pressed to change the frequency step. Once I do that everything updates, but you can turn the encoder all day long and nothing will change on the LCD until you push the button to change the step. I've looked over the sketch and am just not seeing the problem. Can anyone else see where I'm going wrong? I'm using AK2B's sketch as-is with only the pins changed to match my setup. (Let me know if I should post the sketch. I wasn't sure what the etiquette was in this case.) Any advice would be greatly appreciated! 73 de KB1VNA Eric |
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Re: Possible PA low output problem.
Hey Jerry this is exactly what I was thinking when I got up this morning. Jerry-"Or your audio level is way down (bad microphone?) so you don't have enough drive into the final. ?A low audio level would suggest the final has not much to do though, and thus the current into the IRF510 would be stuck around 100ma". ??Aside from trying a different electret mic, how could I test the audio input circuitry? I don't know the stages of this board, but I am able to follow and understand the instructions thus far. Someone give Mr. Farhan a poke and send him over here to tell me what to do. As for a scope I don't have a real one, I have a homemade "Sound card oscilloscope" I made from a Make Magazine project.? I am going to postpone the AMP replacement for now. |