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Re: sBITX V3 manual

 

Thank you, Farhan, for pointing me in the right place.
I compiled all info to the single document, corrected typo errors and saved as .pdf into Files/SBITX_V3 folder.
Maybe it will help to someone...

73 - Petr


Re: sBitx printed case

 

I had a lot of bed adhesion issues trying to print the case with PLA. I switched to smooth glass bed with some glue stick applied on a preheated bed which solved the edges curling up.

73
Glenn VE9GJ


On March 26, 2024 7:25:06?a.m. ADT, Mark Hatch <mark2382@...> wrote:
A common problem, especially with petg filament and perhaps a glass bed. Base level is not sticking fully. Happened to me once but I forgot how fixed it. Maybe more squish on first layer? Or more hairspray¡­

73
Mark


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

The calculated solution for 650 to 500 is 969 nH and 3 pF.

It seems to me that the only way to actually find the correct solution is to lift the filter out of the circuit.? Terminate it using a 500 ohm resistor, and put a NanoVNA on it to measure the R +/-j.? Even then, the NanoVNA is itself a 50 ohm device so an approximation may be to use a 9:1 transformer on the VNA to filter to at least match it to 450 ohms.? Even better would be to use the 9:1 and a series 50 ohm resistor.??

Y1 is known to be extremely reactive over frequency.? The model of Y1 is a complex collection of L/C/R configuration that is highly reactive.? The 650 to 500 solution is an over-simplified description of the actual problem to be solved, which is to match at 45 MHz.

Ford-N0FP


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

I use on-line calculators to figure out matching.? One of my favorites is here:



Using 45 MHz

In the configuration on the schematic, 50 j0 ohms into a series C211 of 0.1uF (X= 0.04 ohms @ 45 MHz) into series L7 of 720 nH (X = 204) into shunt C212 of 22 pF (X = -161) does not appear to work at 45 MHz.? At 38.3 MHz the solutioin comes out almost exactly a series 720 nH to shunt 22 pF.

At 45 MHz, the solve for 50 j0 to 650 j0 is a series 613 nH to shunt 19 pF.

The practical issue of knowing the characteristic impedance of Y1 is clearly a factor.??

Ford N0FP


Updating a V2 to V3 finals and need info

 

I have downloaded both prints and can spend the time to figure out which components need changing to goto the 510 finals but was hoping there was a .txt file on github. I looked and didnt see anything, where do I find those notes?

My sBitx stopped transmitting yesterday and I figured when I troubleshoot this problem, I could go ahead and update the finals at the same time. I have blown two of the IRFZ24N finals so far and now I am ready to move on to a better solution.?

It has been crackling during FT8 recently and the external wattmeter would show spikes in output power, and I figure something in the output chain has failed now that it has went to zero.?

Thanks for?your help in advance,

David
WK4DS?


Re: sBITX V3 manual

 

Petr,
You will find the latest manual online on . it is available in the column on the left hand side.
It also documents all the hardware updates. The circuit diagrams are on
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On Tue, Mar 26, 2024, 4:03 PM Petr Ourednik <indians@...> wrote:
Hi folks,

is somewhere the manual for latest sBITX V3 please? I found just an old V2 document...
Looking for user manual as same as latest schematics and mods done on V3.

Thanks,
Petr


sBITX V3 manual

 

Hi folks,

is somewhere the manual for latest sBITX V3 please? I found just an old V2 document...
Looking for user manual as same as latest schematics and mods done on V3.

Thanks,
Petr


Re: sBitx printed case

 

A common problem, especially with petg filament and perhaps a glass bed. Base level is not sticking fully. Happened to me once but I forgot how fixed it. Maybe more squish on first layer? Or more hairspray¡­

73
Mark
--
AJ6CU/7
KD8CEC 2.0, Nextion Screens,? and open source uBITX Raduino boards for Arduino IOT, BLE, RP2040, Teensy 4.0, and Raspberry Pi Pico
https://github.com/aj6cu


Re: sBitx printed case

 

Great idea that shade should be pretty easy to add to the 3d model. Let me think about it when I get back to my desk.?


mark
--
AJ6CU/7
KD8CEC 2.0, Nextion Screens,? and open source uBITX Raduino boards for Arduino IOT, BLE, RP2040, Teensy 4.0, and Raspberry Pi Pico
https://github.com/aj6cu


Re: sBitx v3 on CW

 

Gordon,

many thanks for detailed info.
I asked for it as few owners reported cutting first CW element because of long T/R switching time in V3.
I did not find any video where someone would be able to show standard CW keying at normal speed of 25-30wpm.
If the CW delay is possible to set, then it would be interesting to know how low it could be set...?
Anyway, many thanks for help Gordon.

Petr


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

The webpage Gerard pointed to keeps things simple by ignoring phase.
The L network example on that webpage assumes purely resistive input and output impedances.
Gerard's filter module of 1500 Ohms resistance in parallel with 2pF of capacitance is not purely resistive.


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

In the general case


On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 05:52 PM, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
When choosing L7 and C212, first find C212 in parallel with the?
filter module such that the network has a resistive component of 50 ohms
Then find an L7 to cancel out any capactive reactance.


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

The calculation is simple, but the concept of impedance is not always easy.
Few radio amateurs without an engineering background ever figure this stuff out completely.

Impedance is like resistance, but adds the complication of phase.
To keep the formulas simple we use "complex numbers".


Normal "real" numbers only have one dimension, along the number line.
Complex numbers have a second dimension perpendicular to the real axis.
Weirdly enough, the math all works out beautifully if we assume the perpendicular axis
has units of the square root of -1, often expressed with the symbol j.

Once we express impedances as complex numbers, we can use the same formulas
to combine impedances as we do for resistors.

Ohm's law still works too, divide an AC RMS Voltage by and impedance and?
you get a current in Amps, where all three values are complex numbers.
The phase of the complex number for the current will be shifted with respect to
the phase of the voltage, exactly as?you would see with an oscilloscope.



Lets assume the 45mhz filter does have an input impedance of 650 ohms?
in parallel with 3pF as Gerard shows in his diagram.
The 3pF is in parallel with the 22pF of C212, resulting in 25pF of capacitance.
The formula for the impedance of an inductor is zL = j * 2*pi*f * l)
where f is the frequency in Hz and l is the inductance in Henries.
The formula for the impedance of a capacitor is zC = 1/(j * 2*pi*f * c)
where f is the frequency in Hz, c the capacitance in Farads, and zC the impedance in ohms.

That capacitive impedance is in parallel with the 650 ohms resistance,
which can be calculated as:? ?zP = zC*650/(zC+650)
And that impedance in series with the 720nH inductor L7 is zIN = zL + zP

Python is a simple programming language that knows about complex numbers,
We use exponential notation for the big and small numbers, so 720e-9 is 0.000000720
We can write this up as a python script:
?
zL = 1j * 2 * 3.1416 * 45e6* 720e-9
zC = 1 / (1j * 2 * 3.1416 * 45e6 * (22e-12 + 3e-12))
zP = zC * 650 / (zC + 650)
print(zL + zP)

If you copy and paste that script into the python interpreter at? ?https://trinket.io/console
then it will print the following result:
(29.4 + 68.5j)?
That's 29 ohms resistive plus 68 ohms inductive.

Replacing 650 || 3pf from Gerard with the 500 ohms (and no parallel capacitance)
that Farhan mentions in his notes I get? (46.8 + 57.9j)
The resistive part of 46.8 ohms is close to 50, but we may want a smaller inductor.
Unless my calculations are wrong, an inductance around 515nH might be a better choice.
Perhaps Farhan tried various parts, and 720nH is what worked best.

Using Gerard's figures of 1.5k || 2pF for the filter itself, I get an input impedance of:
(14.339296314084606+57.61908010693662j)

When choosing L7 and C212, first find C212 in parallel with the?
filter module such that the network has a resistive component of 50 ohms
Then find an L7 to cancel out any capactive reactance.

The nanoVNA is a cheap and very educational tool if you wish to understand impedances.
For example, a nanoVNA could measure the input impedance of this filter network,?
and hopefully give a result that agrees with the python script.

Jerry, KE7ER



On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 01:02 PM, ajparent1/kb1gmx wrote:

The IF amps and associated DBMs were 50 ohm not 500 ohms.?
The TIA amp is 50 ohms and the DBM is also 50 ohms.

The actual network is L network and the calculation is simple.

Note C250 and 216 are not there (zero value means not installed.).

Also c211 and C251 are large enough to be near zero reactance at 45mhz
and serve as DC blocking.

So the active network is L7 and C212 and the mirror components on the other side.


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

The IF amps and associated DBMs were 50 ohm not 500 ohms.?
The TIA amp is 50 ohms and the DBM is also 50 ohms.

The actual network is L network and the calculation is simple.

Note C250 and 216 are not there (zero value means not installed.).

Also c211 and C251 are large enough to be near zero reactance at 45mhz
and serve as DC blocking.

So the active network is L7 and C212 and the mirror components on the other side.


--
Allison
------------------
Please use the forum, offline and private will go to bit bucket.


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

Re,

It¡¯s never too late to learn...
I think this site??
must answer my question if we consider the crystal filter seen as a resistance of 650 ohm/ 3PF
Case A looks good for filter input (500 --> 650 ohm) and case B for output (650 -->500Ohm)
So capacitor and inductance well placed
Some calculations to do, but tomorrow, because the brain is too hot already LOL

cdt
?


Re: sBitx printed case

 

I sent the files to a friend of mine what has a 3D printer and he said that it was warping and wasn't printing for him. Would someone out there be willing to print me a case or is there a company that could print one for me??
I really like the sun shade, it is a great idea

--
'72
Aaron?


Re: Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

Ugg...memories of circuit analysis in college? have assaulted my brain! I bet a computer can get the answers faster than me. Gotta get back to changing my tractor tire...enjoy.

Scotty WD4PYT?

On Mon, Mar 25, 2024, 2:55 PM Gerard <kabupos@...> wrote:
Hello,
?
In the Ubitx V6 documentation, it is noted that the 45 Mhz filter must see an impedance of 500 Ohm on each side. See on?
--->
"The 45 MHz filter needs 500 ohms termination impedance on both ports.
?We use simple L network to match the filter to either ends of the front-end and the 2nd IF mixer."

Knowing for example that the 45MHZ filter model 45M15F has a characteristic 650 ohm/ 3 PF, what is the calculation rule for the capacitor value and inductance on each side of the filter. The capacitor 0.1?F? being considered began in short circuit at this frequency.

Please complete the calculation? rule of these 2 components, if the filter is different with value 1.5KOhm and 2PF.
The rule is:....so
Values of C212, C214? and L5, L7 are....if filter 1.5KOhm / 2PF
Thanks


Impedance calculation rule crystal filter

 

Hello,
?
In the Ubitx V6 documentation, it is noted that the 45 Mhz filter must see an impedance of 500 Ohm on each side. See on?
--->
"The 45 MHz filter needs 500 ohms termination impedance on both ports.
?We use simple L network to match the filter to either ends of the front-end and the 2nd IF mixer."

Knowing for example that the 45MHZ filter model 45M15F has a characteristic 650 ohm/ 3 PF, what is the calculation rule for the capacitor value and inductance on each side of the filter. The capacitor 0.1?F? being considered began in short circuit at this frequency.

Please complete the calculation? rule of these 2 components, if the filter is different with value 1.5KOhm and 2PF.
The rule is:....so
Values of C212, C214? and L5, L7 are....if filter 1.5KOhm / 2PF
Thanks


Re: Low transmit power using wsjtx and jtdx #sBitx

 

AE9J,

The hw_settings.ini file is in the data folder in the sbitx folder
/home/pi/sbitx/data

I suggest copying the entire folder as your customization settings and the log file are also stored there.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Low transmit power using wsjtx and jtdx #sBitx

 

So where is this "hw_settings.ini" file?

Does this file get changed by the "txcal" command?

I guess I should copy that file off somewhere before I even think about changing it.

Thanks.