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Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

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On Nov 18, 2023, at 6:53 AM, HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:

?Ashar,
I just remembered what I just experienced:
when there is no call signal in the log window and I press the QRZ button, the device goes on the air.
I think this should be blocked.
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Gyula HA3HZ

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Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Hi Harold,

I followed Gyula's process using the Raspberry Pi clone SD card in the accessories program list to a USB-connected ?SD card reader/writer.? I have a DE, so getting to the ?SD card is difficult.? I will swap in the cloned card for a significant change, like the V2 to V3 change, to ensure it works.? For the other minor changes, I will clone the card and assume that the card was copied correctly.? This may bite me in the future, but I believe the risk of damaging something in changing the ?SD card is worse.? I have damaged the DSI screen connector on the screen controller from one too many swaps.? From V2 pictures, it looks like it is more accessible on a V2.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

Harald Holt
 

Hi Gyula,
Thanks for the description.
When you clone the uSD card do you move it to a PC or do you do it while it is in th sbitx?
73 Harald


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Guyla, I had that happen to me too.? I've noticed a few quirky things but I think most of them are from my arthritic fingers hitting the wrong position on the touch display.? I need to find a nice keyboard /mouse combo before I can be sure of anything.? Overall I like V3 and FT8 is working well.
Barry, kk4vt


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Sbitx v2 to v3 upgrade

Cloning from github

First I made a full uSD Copy from the working sbitx v2 uSD card.

(so that in the event of a malfunction, I have a working system from which I can start again.)

If an error has occurred, you must always start from the beginning, i.e. make a copy of the working uSD.

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Then I renamed the sbitx folder to sbitxv2 with the File Manager.

Then I started the terminal program: ?git clone

When it finished cloning, I copied sbitxv2/data/hw_settings.ini and user_settings.ini and sbitx.db containing LOG to the cloned folder.

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You can now launch sbitx with one click.

Click the WEB button from the native UI screen to start the web browser (Chrome).

Here, by clicking the LOG button, you can see the contents of the LOG in a new window.

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Before turning off the device, I make a copy of the entire sbitx folder on a USB stick.

This is my daily savior.

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If a correction is needed somewhere in the LOG file, the DB Browser (SQLite) is also installed on the PC, with the help of which I can perform the correction. Saving is done with Ctrl+Shift+S keys.

I transfer the corrected file back to the uSD card of the Sbitx radio using the USB stick.

Important: make a copy every day, so there are no surprises.

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Gyula HA3HZ


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Hi Bob,

I have fully modified DE less the SWR/Power sensor.? The V3 software works very well for me.? The process I followed was to rename the current sbitx directory, clone the repository, then copy from the saved old sbitx directory the .ini and db files from the data folder.??

On startup, you get a bunch of chattering relays until all the settings are loaded from the .ini files.? Once that is done, the relays only change with band changes, as they should.? Assuming you have "calibrated" the power setting in the hw_settings.ini file, the output power is the same as before the update.?

So far I like the new software.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Let us know if this works?
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Bob AA4FJ


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

I have not installed the sensor. It is just a fully updated DE. Will v3 work if I install it?
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Bob AA4FJ


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

Harald Holt
 

I am excited to test V3 asp.
i hope you post a detailed cookbook for those of us who need some handholding.


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Mike,
I guess in a week's time we can get everyone to pull in the new update.
- f


On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 7:55 AM Astro-Nights with Mike Christiansen <starmke1998@...> wrote:
I am really happy this version is coming out.??I have wanted this for a long time.??I love my sBitx V2 but this update will make it a great radio. Can¡¯t wait until the final version comes out

Mike, N4GW
On Nov 17, 2023 at 8:46 PM -0500, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...>, wrote:
I have pushed?a few minor updates just now and a major fix. The FT8 was outputting?some random noise from an un-initialized variable during transmission. This could be what lead to many FT8 blow outs. It has been initialized to zero as well. I urge all those trying out the v3 to update.
- f

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 5:48?AM Ashhar Farhan via <farhanbox=[email protected]> wrote:
I will try manual logging to entries. I do it all the time on cw, let me try it on ft8 today.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 12:30 AM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
I am using Sbitx_v3.
Today I had two connections that the program created a LOG file before that would have ended with 73 or RRR.
And before that, I couldn't get it to create a LOG, even though all the data is present. See image IK4LZH.
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Gyula HA3HZ

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Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

I am really happy this version is coming out.??I have wanted this for a long time.??I love my sBitx V2 but this update will make it a great radio. Can¡¯t wait until the final version comes out

Mike, N4GW
On Nov 17, 2023 at 8:46 PM -0500, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...>, wrote:

I have pushed?a few minor updates just now and a major fix. The FT8 was outputting?some random noise from an un-initialized variable during transmission. This could be what lead to many FT8 blow outs. It has been initialized to zero as well. I urge all those trying out the v3 to update.
- f

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 5:48?AM Ashhar Farhan via <farhanbox=[email protected]> wrote:
I will try manual logging to entries. I do it all the time on cw, let me try it on ft8 today.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 12:30 AM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
I am using Sbitx_v3.
Today I had two connections that the program created a LOG file before that would have ended with 73 or RRR.
And before that, I couldn't get it to create a LOG, even though all the data is present. See image IK4LZH.
--
Gyula HA3HZ

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Re: CW issue I have been trying to sort out.

 

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I haven¡¯t got my V2 up and running on the air, but it should be very similar to my developers edition?

There is a CW delay command. ?You can get to it from the command line. ? I don¡¯t have the radio right in front of me. ?Set the AGC to be fast, and then fiddle with the CW delay. If it¡¯s too short you¡¯ll get some thump thump thump but I found a happy medium where it would come back even between letters just not between elements like dots and dashes. ?

It was so so so much better than my ICOM 7300! It was like heaven. ? It¡¯s not perfectly full breamin but it¡¯s very very close. ?

I don¡¯t have a way yet to activate a power amplifier. I bought some Opto isolator¡¯s to work on that but haven¡¯t gotten to it. I have a high power QSK unit that I bought used. ? I was astonished to discover that the feed around a Heathkit SB 200 vacuum tube amplifier was enough that on most bands I could actually receive backwards through the amp even when it was enabled and idling! ?Sure, it was a big attenuator but on some of these bands you have plenty of signal. ? ?There wasn¡¯t enough shot noise to really bother me from the vacuum tubes. ? So then I had a nearly full break in with OODLES of power ¡ª 30 or 40 W from the developer edition could get me 200 or 300 from the vacuum tube amp ¡ª and I haven¡¯t even gotten out the qsk unit

So work on some of those settings and I think you¡¯ll have it fixed

Gordon Kx4z?




On Nov 17, 2023, at 20:30, WK4DS <georgiaphotog@...> wrote:

?Good evening everybody,

I know this is probably not very high priority to anyone since the v3 source code is front and center right now.?

I still wanted to ask to see what I could get though. I have been using my sBitx v2 for POTA activations. In those activations I use two modes right now, CW and FT8. FT8 works, even with the issues, well enough that I have been having fun with it. I know the v3 software will make a ton of difference here so I am not chasing that any further right now.?

The problem comes with CW... I love everything about the radio...except the audio recovery time in CW. No matter what setting I change, the audio on receive takes long enough that I lose the first "dit" or "dah" of the first letter of a call sign...a lot. To the point that I have been inserting a "dah" when I copy an "A" and it is almost always a "K" and the same goes when I hear an "M"...it is probably a "W" with the "dit" missing. I have asked here a couple of times, but I am not good at communicating with text in email as I have gotten answers that don't solve the problem. No matter where I set the AGC, it all sounds the same, except off where the audio level drops significantly and I have to deal with loud stations manually. This still doesn't fix the problem with the missing character though as I thought it was because the AGC "builds up the audio" from the receive being turned back on after transmitting. It is like you slowly turn up the volume when it switches to receive and you have the AGC enabled and nothing I do will affect this time delay. I tried changing the CW DELAY setting and it too seemed to do nothing at all. No matter what value I put with it, they all do the same thing. Receiver recovery after transmit is slow and I dont know how to fix it.

What am I doing wrong? All I want is that first character... lol. I love the radio and enjoy using it, but I have to have call signs repeated a lot because of this time spent switching to receive from transmit. If it was 100ms I would think I would get the first character more of the time. I can understand missing one occasionally when someone is quick on the key trying to break the pileup, but it is ALOT... I am really hoping that someone has solved this and can guide me to a solution here.

I am really looking forward to seeing what comes of the v3 software too, I like the layout from what I have seen in the photos shared in the group so far.

Thank you all!

David
WK4DS


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

I have pushed?a few minor updates just now and a major fix. The FT8 was outputting?some random noise from an un-initialized variable during transmission. This could be what lead to many FT8 blow outs. It has been initialized to zero as well. I urge all those trying out the v3 to update.
- f

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 5:48?AM Ashhar Farhan via <farhanbox=[email protected]> wrote:
I will try manual logging to entries. I do it all the time on cw, let me try it on ft8 today.

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 12:30 AM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
I am using Sbitx_v3.
Today I had two connections that the program created a LOG file before that would have ended with 73 or RRR.
And before that, I couldn't get it to create a LOG, even though all the data is present. See image IK4LZH.
--
Gyula HA3HZ






Re: CW issue I have been trying to sort out.

 

This maybe due to the AGC kicking in, can you see if it happens when you turn off the AGC?
- f

On Sat, Nov 18, 2023 at 7:00?AM WK4DS <georgiaphotog@...> wrote:
Good evening everybody,

I know this is probably not very high priority to anyone since the v3 source code is front and center right now.?

I still wanted to ask to see what I could get though. I have been using my sBitx v2 for POTA activations. In those activations I use two modes right now, CW and FT8. FT8 works, even with the issues, well enough that I have been having fun with it. I know the v3 software will make a ton of difference here so I am not chasing that any further right now.?

The problem comes with CW... I love everything about the radio...except the audio recovery time in CW. No matter what setting I change, the audio on receive takes long enough that I lose the first "dit" or "dah" of the first letter of a call sign...a lot. To the point that I have been inserting a "dah" when I copy an "A" and it is almost always a "K" and the same goes when I hear an "M"...it is probably a "W" with the "dit" missing. I have asked here a couple of times, but I am not good at communicating with text in email as I have gotten answers that don't solve the problem. No matter where I set the AGC, it all sounds the same, except off where the audio level drops significantly and I have to deal with loud stations manually. This still doesn't fix the problem with the missing character though as I thought it was because the AGC "builds up the audio" from the receive being turned back on after transmitting. It is like you slowly turn up the volume when it switches to receive and you have the AGC enabled and nothing I do will affect this time delay. I tried changing the CW DELAY setting and it too seemed to do nothing at all. No matter what value I put with it, they all do the same thing. Receiver recovery after transmit is slow and I dont know how to fix it.

What am I doing wrong? All I want is that first character... lol. I love the radio and enjoy using it, but I have to have call signs repeated a lot because of this time spent switching to receive from transmit. If it was 100ms I would think I would get the first character more of the time. I can understand missing one occasionally when someone is quick on the key trying to break the pileup, but it is ALOT... I am really hoping that someone has solved this and can guide me to a solution here.

I am really looking forward to seeing what comes of the v3 software too, I like the layout from what I have seen in the photos shared in the group so far.

Thank you all!

David
WK4DS


CW issue I have been trying to sort out.

 

Good evening everybody,

I know this is probably not very high priority to anyone since the v3 source code is front and center right now.?

I still wanted to ask to see what I could get though. I have been using my sBitx v2 for POTA activations. In those activations I use two modes right now, CW and FT8. FT8 works, even with the issues, well enough that I have been having fun with it. I know the v3 software will make a ton of difference here so I am not chasing that any further right now.?

The problem comes with CW... I love everything about the radio...except the audio recovery time in CW. No matter what setting I change, the audio on receive takes long enough that I lose the first "dit" or "dah" of the first letter of a call sign...a lot. To the point that I have been inserting a "dah" when I copy an "A" and it is almost always a "K" and the same goes when I hear an "M"...it is probably a "W" with the "dit" missing. I have asked here a couple of times, but I am not good at communicating with text in email as I have gotten answers that don't solve the problem. No matter where I set the AGC, it all sounds the same, except off where the audio level drops significantly and I have to deal with loud stations manually. This still doesn't fix the problem with the missing character though as I thought it was because the AGC "builds up the audio" from the receive being turned back on after transmitting. It is like you slowly turn up the volume when it switches to receive and you have the AGC enabled and nothing I do will affect this time delay. I tried changing the CW DELAY setting and it too seemed to do nothing at all. No matter what value I put with it, they all do the same thing. Receiver recovery after transmit is slow and I dont know how to fix it.

What am I doing wrong? All I want is that first character... lol. I love the radio and enjoy using it, but I have to have call signs repeated a lot because of this time spent switching to receive from transmit. If it was 100ms I would think I would get the first character more of the time. I can understand missing one occasionally when someone is quick on the key trying to break the pileup, but it is ALOT... I am really hoping that someone has solved this and can guide me to a solution here.

I am really looking forward to seeing what comes of the v3 software too, I like the layout from what I have seen in the photos shared in the group so far.

Thank you all!

David
WK4DS


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

I will try manual logging to entries. I do it all the time on cw, let me try it on ft8 today.


On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 12:30 AM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
I am using Sbitx_v3.
Today I had two connections that the program created a LOG file before that would have ended with 73 or RRR.
And before that, I couldn't get it to create a LOG, even though all the data is present. See image IK4LZH.
--
Gyula HA3HZ






Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

Gyula,
The code triggers a log entry upon exchange of signal reports. This has been a long pending request by many people on the wsjtx-dev group. The idea of RRR/RR73/73 is to prevent retransmission from the called party of the return signal report (which starts with R, like R-13).
-f


On Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 12:30 AM HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
I am using Sbitx_v3.
Today I had two connections that the program created a LOG file before that would have ended with 73 or RRR.
And before that, I couldn't get it to create a LOG, even though all the data is present. See image IK4LZH.
--
Gyula HA3HZ






Re: v3 software, alpha is here

 

I just did the update, and other than needing to install libopus-dev everything went smoothly. I love the new layout.


Re: v3 software, alpha is here

Owen Baldwin
 

Has a signal strength?meter or LED display been added to the v3 or does the swr display double as a signal strength indication? G0RCL

On Fri, 17 Nov 2023 at 19:00, HA3HZ <gyula@...> wrote:
I am using Sbitx_v3.
Today I had two connections that the program created a LOG file before that would have ended with 73 or RRR.
And before that, I couldn't get it to create a LOG, even though all the data is present. See image IK4LZH.
--
Gyula HA3HZ






Re: sBITX V2 TX no output

 

Hello Ashhar,
I have a sBitx-Radio Serial No.418
No, I don't see any modulation while speaking.
Also there is no transmission on FT8, CW.
Drive settings 50%, 100% no response
With software version 1 everything is OK!
73 Hajo