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Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

You can always use an external computer and sound card system.? ?That's what I've done in order to use winlink etc.? ?Works well.?
Eventually, the code will get sorted out.? ?Anyone can learn enough C to work on these things in a few days.? ??
But those of us with JOBS and family and other hobbies will take some time to get around to it.? My thing has been the signal purity.? ??

73
Gordon KX4Z


On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 4:36?PM david todd via <ac9xh=[email protected]> wrote:
Have u tried dabbling with the software past the beginning? edit the lines u dont like regarding ft8 timing and such. take notes, and see the results. then if it doesnt work, at least u have ur notes on what u did. Sometimes a skyscraper needs to be gutted from the bottom up instead of the top down.I have found many solutions just printing the program out , reading the code several times and then it shows like a beacon.

Personally if i were u , i would go thru the code, and see if there isnt an anomoly on ur version of firmware. might have had a problem when originally loaded? Sometimes it happens. Also Sometimes if the computer side isnt seeing a correct time, you wont make any QSOs either. I actually had this problem with FT8. Also might not be relevent but what ft8 software are u using? i found wsjtx buggy for me .I use jtdx, and have never had any issues with it.

Another thing is try to get ahold of a new updated software for ur SD Card. problem seems to be on the SD card since u are having problems with ft8. Just my opinion.

Also try rebooting the Sbitx, replace the current SD card with a new one. might be corrupted?


just trying to shoot some suggestions out.

Dont give up, its running but with a small problem. a setting, time coordination, reloaded software on SD card, or new SD card,. Something probably simple.

73
David
ac9xh

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 03:30:21 PM EDT, Jens <hb9joi@...> wrote:


... here seems to be nobody who really can help or have solved this
FT8 firmware chaos of the sBITX V2? ?
Or .. ?
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

Have u tried dabbling with the software past the beginning? edit the lines u dont like regarding ft8 timing and such. take notes, and see the results. then if it doesnt work, at least u have ur notes on what u did. Sometimes a skyscraper needs to be gutted from the bottom up instead of the top down.I have found many solutions just printing the program out , reading the code several times and then it shows like a beacon.

Personally if i were u , i would go thru the code, and see if there isnt an anomoly on ur version of firmware. might have had a problem when originally loaded? Sometimes it happens. Also Sometimes if the computer side isnt seeing a correct time, you wont make any QSOs either. I actually had this problem with FT8. Also might not be relevent but what ft8 software are u using? i found wsjtx buggy for me .I use jtdx, and have never had any issues with it.

Another thing is try to get ahold of a new updated software for ur SD Card. problem seems to be on the SD card since u are having problems with ft8. Just my opinion.

Also try rebooting the Sbitx, replace the current SD card with a new one. might be corrupted?


just trying to shoot some suggestions out.

Dont give up, its running but with a small problem. a setting, time coordination, reloaded software on SD card, or new SD card,. Something probably simple.

73
David
ac9xh

On Thursday, November 2, 2023 at 03:30:21 PM EDT, Jens <hb9joi@...> wrote:


... here seems to be nobody who really can help or have solved this
FT8 firmware chaos of the sBITX V2? ?
Or .. ?
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: Raspberry Pi in sBITX V2

 

any problem, lemme know. I'm running bullseye 64 bit here. I'm still taking some breath to update to bookworm...

my packages for wiringpi for bullseye 64 bit are here:


- Rafael

On 11/2/23 18:16, Dave, N1AI wrote:

To reply to my own post in case it helps anyone else, I found the problem was permissions were incorrect on |/dev/gpiomem|.

The whole sequence was:

|pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ ./sbitx sbitx v2.0 sqlite3 opening returned 0 wiringPiSetup: Unable to open /dev/mem or /dev/gpiomem: Permission denied. Aborting your program because if it can not access the GPIO hardware then it most certianly won't work Try running with sudo? pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ ls -l /dev/gpiomem crw------- 1 root root 238, 0 Nov 2 10:16 /dev/gpiomem pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ sudo chown root.gpio /dev/gpiomem pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ sudo chmod g+rw /dev/gpiomem pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ ls -l /dev/gpiomem crw-rw---- 1 root gpio 238, 0 Nov 2 22:25 /dev/gpiomem pi@sbitx:~/sbitx $ ./sbitx sbitx v2.0 sqlite3 opening returned 0 synchronised to NTP server (50.205.57.38) at stratum 2 time correct to within 13 ms polling server every 64 s Checking for valid NTP time ...Syncing RTC to 2023-11-02 17:22:16 Initialized the waterfall rx_pitch set to 590 bridge compesation = 100 *Error: field[#kbd_] not found. Check for typo? #Remote is listening Reading rtc...RTC time is : year:2023 month:11 day:2 hour:17 min:22 sec:16 time_delta = 1698945732 rtc julian: 1698960136l -14400 done! |

The steps that fixed it were:

|sudo chown root.gpio /dev/gpiomem sudo chmod g+rw /dev/gpiomem |

The weird part is the same permission issue was present on the sdcard that I cloned from, and the same fix applied to the sdcard fixed that issue there as well. I still can't figure out what caused the permission problem. I have no idea if it had anything to do with using |rpi-clone| or not.

The bottom line is I am where I wanted to be a day or so ago. I can boot the rpi4 in the sbitx either on the sdcard or on the external usb-nvme stick. If I power down and disconnect the usb-nvme cable then it falls back to running from the sdcard.

Next I'd like to move forward to the debian bullseye release and run in 64 bit mode on a different usb3-nvme device. That will be a nice step forward.

-- Regards, Dave, N1AI

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Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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... here seems to be nobody who really can help or have solved this
FT8 firmware chaos of the sBITX V2? ?
Or .. ?
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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... and why You help me not ?
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From: Tony Abbey
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Hi Jens
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Before you throw it in the rubbish, would you like to sell it to me and I'll see what I can do with it, please.
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Tony
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On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 18:44, Jens <hb9joi@...> wrote:
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I think I give this radio in for what it is made : for the rubbish .
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

Hi Jens

Before you throw it in the rubbish, would you like to sell it to me and I'll see what I can do with it, please.

Tony


On Thu, 2 Nov 2023 at 18:44, Jens <hb9joi@...> wrote:
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I think I give this radio in for what it is made : for the rubbish .
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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I think I give this radio in for what it is made : for the rubbish .
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
?
Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

Jens,

Sorry, I can not help you.? Maybe someone else in the group can help you.

73
Evan
AC9TU
Re: Raspberry Pi in sBITX V2

 

To reply to my own post in case it helps anyone else, I found the problem was permissions were incorrect on /dev/gpiomem.

The whole sequence was:

pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ ./sbitx
sbitx v2.0
sqlite3 opening returned 0
wiringPiSetup: Unable to open /dev/mem or /dev/gpiomem: Permission denied.
  Aborting your program because if it can not access the GPIO
  hardware then it most certianly won't work
  Try running with sudo?
pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ ls -l /dev/gpiomem
crw------- 1 root root 238, 0 Nov  2 10:16 /dev/gpiomem
pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ sudo chown root.gpio /dev/gpiomem 
pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ sudo chmod g+rw /dev/gpiomem
pi@sbitx:~/sbitx$ ls -l /dev/gpiomem
crw-rw---- 1 root gpio 238, 0 Nov  2 22:25 /dev/gpiomem
pi@sbitx:~/sbitx $ ./sbitx
sbitx v2.0
sqlite3 opening returned 0
synchronised to NTP server (50.205.57.38) at stratum 2 
   time correct to within 13 ms
   polling server every 64 s
Checking for valid NTP time ...Syncing RTC to 2023-11-02 17:22:16
Initialized the waterfall
rx_pitch set to 590
bridge compesation = 100
*Error: field[#kbd_] not found. Check for typo?
#Remote is listening
Reading rtc...RTC time is : year:2023 month:11 day:2 hour:17 min:22 sec:16
time_delta = 1698945732
rtc julian: 1698960136l -14400
done!

The steps that fixed it were:

sudo chown root.gpio /dev/gpiomem 
sudo chmod g+rw /dev/gpiomem

The weird part is the same permission issue was present on the sdcard that I cloned from, and the same fix applied to the sdcard fixed that issue there as well. I still can't figure out what caused the permission problem. I have no idea if it had anything to do with using rpi-clone or not.

The bottom line is I am where I wanted to be a day or so ago. I can boot the rpi4 in the sbitx either on the sdcard or on the external usb-nvme stick. If I power down and disconnect the usb-nvme cable then it falls back to running from the sdcard.

Next I'd like to move forward to the debian bullseye release and run in 64 bit mode on a different usb3-nvme device. That will be a nice step forward.

-- Regards, Dave, N1AI
Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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Yes , using the web Chrome based display .
I have the radio since 4 weeks ... 4 weeks without fun ! Ser.-No. is :? 0394
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Are you using the web Chrome-based display?? The changes in the post only affect the Chrome display.? The old display you posted in the video is being removed.? It does not have all of the updated functions.

73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

Are you using the web Chrome-based display?? The changes in the post only affect the Chrome display.? The old display you posted in the video is being removed.? It does not have all of the updated functions.

73
Evan
AC9TU
Re: Help with sBitx v2 FT8 problem

 

Jens,

The mod provided only works with the Chrome-based display.? The video is using the older gtk-based display that is being phased out.? Try it using the Chrome display.? It should look like this:



73
Evan
AC9TU

Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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Yes , but solved nothing about the FT8 problem.
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From: Evan Hand
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Jens,

Did you comment out the lines in index.html in the data folder under the sbitx folder in the pi home directory (/home/pi/sbitx/data/index.html) as per this message?

/g/BITX20/message/105788

73
Evan
AC9TU
Re: sBitx Raspios Bookworm

 

On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 01:12 PM, Mark Erbaugh wrote:

have you tried booting your Pi 5 from an external USB drive?

Sorry, no, I have not.

I'm still working through getting my USB3 NVMe to run sbitx correctly with Pi 4 and the old Buster-based OS that came with sbitx.

I just figured out what it was doing wrong, will update the other thread, it was a permissions thing for /dev/gpiomem.

Next I want to use some of the advice I read here to get it to run on Bullseye in 64 bit mode then try Bookworm.

Basically I want to take things one step at a time, always having a fall-back that works so if I screw something up I can still use the radio.

-- Regards, Dave, N1AI
Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

Note:? If you edit the message heading, a new topic is created, and links to the old topic are lost.

73
Evan
AC9TU
Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

Jens,

Did you comment out the lines in index.html in the data folder under the sbitx folder in the pi home directory?(/home/pi/sbitx/data/index.html)?as per this message?

/g/BITX20/message/105788

73
Evan
AC9TU
Re: Help with sBitx v2 FT8 problem

 

sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Yes ... this all also already I have done and tested , but also this solved NOT the
FT8? time-slot changing problem .
I can not call stations because after report changing FT8 is transmiiting in 2 times following
time-slots one after one , and so from this time the situation occours that my sBITX-V2 is transmitting if the other station is also transmiiting and also we receive and transmit both at the same time-slot .
Never a QSO can made and completed ... it is a big shit .
Nobody seems to have a solution ... I have nothing found in the Internet about solving this problem .
Also HF-Signals have no interest to help with an really firmware update which should ready for download from them. Nothing ..., no support.
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73 , Jens / HB9JOI
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Why the sBITX V2 does not work in FT8 like this :
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From: Dave, N1AI
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems
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Did you try the suggestions in /g/BITX20/topic/help_with_sbitx_v2_ft8/102262327 perhaps?

-- Regards, Dave, N1AI

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From: Jens Spiess
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Jens Spiess
Subject: Re: sBITX-V2 FT-8 Problems and others too ...
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Why the sBITX V2 does not work in FT8 like this :
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From: Jens Spiess
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:51 PM
Subject: sBITX-V2 FT-8 Problems and others too ...
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sBITX-V2 FT-8 Problems and others too ...
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Hello ... You are a big blame as manufacturer !!!
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It's a big disgrace what you're doing from HF-Signals :
You're selling a transceiver that does NOT meet the specifications described before
or have not the specifications YOU promise !!!
The device is full of firmware bugs. And if problems arise... YOU don't care.
Open-Source firmware means not to sell a ¡°defect firmware ¡°- product !!!
You simply refer to a community that is supposed to solve the device errors which You have made, even though it is YOUR job to fix the device errors which YOU produced.
You must ensure to give the complete download of a firmware that solves all the device errors which YOU have produced!!!
It's a mess not to do that on YOUR part... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be YOUR duty to give a complete firmware update download to make the device work without errors !!!!Doing this is NOT the job of a user community...!!! Sorry ...
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With bad greetings ...
Jens / HB9JOI
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Re: Help with sBitx v2 FT8 problem / FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...
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Yes ... this all also already I have done and tested , but also this solved NOT the
FT8? time-slot changing problem .
I can not call stations because after report changing FT8 is transmiiting in 2 times following
time-slots one after one , and so from this time the situation occours that my sBITX-V2 is transmitting if the other station is also transmiiting and also we receive and transmit both at the same time-slot .
Never a QSO can made and completed ... it is a big shit .
Nobody seems to have a solution ... I have nothing found in the Internet about solving this problem .
Also HF-Signals have no interest to help with an really firmware update which should ready for download from them. Nothing ..., no support.
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73 , Jens / HB9JOI
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Why the sBITX V2 does not work in FT8 like this :
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From: Dave, N1AI
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems
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Did you try the suggestions in /g/BITX20/topic/help_with_sbitx_v2_ft8/102262327 perhaps?

-- Regards, Dave, N1AI

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From: Jens Spiess
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 11:44 AM
To: Jens Spiess
Subject: Re: sBITX-V2 FT-8 Problems and others too ...
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Why the sBITX V2 does not work in FT8 like this :
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From: Jens Spiess
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2023 3:51 PM
Subject: sBITX-V2 FT-8 Problems and others too ...
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sBITX-V2 FT-8 Problems and others too ...
?
Hello ... You are a big blame as manufacturer !!!
?
It's a big disgrace what you're doing from HF-Signals :
You're selling a transceiver that does NOT meet the specifications described before
or have not the specifications YOU promise !!!
The device is full of firmware bugs. And if problems arise... YOU don't care.
Open-Source firmware means not to sell a ¡°defect firmware ¡°- product !!!
You simply refer to a community that is supposed to solve the device errors which You have made, even though it is YOUR job to fix the device errors which YOU produced.
You must ensure to give the complete download of a firmware that solves all the device errors
which YOU have produced!!!
It's a mess not to do that on YOUR part... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would be YOUR duty to give a complete firmware update download to make the device work without errors !!!!
Doing this is NOT the job of a user community...!!! Sorry ...
?
With bad greetings ...
Jens / HB9JOI
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Re: sBitx V2 FT8 Problems - Big shit...

 

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Yes ... this all also already I have done and tested , but also this solved NOT the
FT8? time-slot changing problem .
I can not call stations because after report changing FT8 is transmiiting in 2 times following
time-slots one after one , and so from this time the situation occours that my sBITX-V2 is transmitting if the other station is also transmiiting and also we receive and transmit both at the same time-slot .
Never a QSO can made and completed ... it is a big shit .
Nobody seems to have a solution ... I have nothing found in the Internet about solving this problem .
Also HF-Signals have no interest to help with an really firmware update which should ready for download from them. Nothing ..., no support.
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73 , Jens / HB9JOI
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From: Dave, N1AI
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2023 4:36 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx V2 FT8 Problems
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Did you try the suggestions in /g/BITX20/topic/help_with_sbitx_v2_ft8/102262327 perhaps?

-- Regards, Dave, N1AI
Re: sBitx Raspios Bookworm

 

I just got a Pi 5 yesterday. Currently I'm not planning on replacing the Pi 4 in my sBitx DE.

Off topic: have you tried booting your Pi 5 from an external USB drive?? I have a USB3 enclosure with an NvME SSD. You can use the Raspberry Pi Imager software to create a bootable USB drive. I tried booting my Pi 5 it and while it boots and runs fine, if I try and update the software, I get a "drive was removed without ejecting error" and have to do a hard shutdown.? The failure is repeatable. The same NvME drive works fine on my Pi 4's (one in the sBitx) and my Pi 400. To eliminate the possibility that the drive was drawing too much current, I connected it to a powered USB3 hub - same failure.? I'm trying to figure out if the problem is with the Pi 5 in general or if my board is defective while I can still return it.
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73,
Mark, N8ME
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