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Re: #sbitx #sbitx-k3ng Spectrum Display Enhancement and More #sBitx #sbitx-k3ng

Anthony Good
 

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Right now this is intended just to view all the settings. ?I think Ashhar has some ideas for implementing a settings load function which would enable profiles.

On Sep 5, 2022, at 23:15, Lou KI5FTY <lscalpati@...> wrote:

interesting? "\settings" - so in the future you could save those settings to a file and implement a settings load function to use them as saved profiles?

73
Lou KI5FTY



On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 10:09 PM Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
The \settings can just loop through all the controls.?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 8:26 AM Anthony Good <anthony.good@...> wrote:
In my latest commit here:


- The center frequency of the spectrum display can be dragged using the mouse (or your finger on the touch screen) in the frequency strip below the spectrum grid.? This took me quite awhile to figure out how to code lol.

- The pitch line is centered on zero for only USB and LSB, all other modes it reflects the PITCH control

- The \sfs (spectrum frequency style) command I created earlier has been replaced by spectrum display frequencies that change format automatically based on the SPAN

- Spectrum display right-click QSY was introduced in an earlier commit, however I¡¯d strongly encourage you to check it out if you haven¡¯t already :-)

- The mouse pointer, reverse scrolling, and tuning acceleration commands have changed slightly; check out \h2 (help page two) for details

- I¡¯ve started a settings command to see current settings (\s or \settings).? It¡¯s a work in progress.

73
Goody
K3NG




Re: #sbitx #sbitx-k3ng Spectrum Display Enhancement and More #sBitx #sbitx-k3ng

Anthony Good
 

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Indeed. ?I will work on that.

On Sep 5, 2022, at 23:09, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:

The \settings can just loop through all the controls.?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 8:26 AM Anthony Good <anthony.good@...> wrote:
In my latest commit here:


- The center frequency of the spectrum display can be dragged using the mouse (or your finger on the touch screen) in the frequency strip below the spectrum grid.? This took me quite awhile to figure out how to code lol.

- The pitch line is centered on zero for only USB and LSB, all other modes it reflects the PITCH control

- The \sfs (spectrum frequency style) command I created earlier has been replaced by spectrum display frequencies that change format automatically based on the SPAN

- Spectrum display right-click QSY was introduced in an earlier commit, however I¡¯d strongly encourage you to check it out if you haven¡¯t already :-)

- The mouse pointer, reverse scrolling, and tuning acceleration commands have changed slightly; check out \h2 (help page two) for details

- I¡¯ve started a settings command to see current settings (\s or \settings).? It¡¯s a work in progress.

73
Goody
K3NG




Re: #sbitx #sbitx-k3ng Spectrum Display Enhancement and More #sBitx #sbitx-k3ng

 

interesting? "\settings" - so in the future you could save those settings to a file and implement a settings load function to use them as saved profiles?

73
Lou KI5FTY



On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 10:09 PM Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
The \settings can just loop through all the controls.?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 8:26 AM Anthony Good <anthony.good@...> wrote:
In my latest commit here:


- The center frequency of the spectrum display can be dragged using the mouse (or your finger on the touch screen) in the frequency strip below the spectrum grid.? This took me quite awhile to figure out how to code lol.

- The pitch line is centered on zero for only USB and LSB, all other modes it reflects the PITCH control

- The \sfs (spectrum frequency style) command I created earlier has been replaced by spectrum display frequencies that change format automatically based on the SPAN

- Spectrum display right-click QSY was introduced in an earlier commit, however I¡¯d strongly encourage you to check it out if you haven¡¯t already :-)

- The mouse pointer, reverse scrolling, and tuning acceleration commands have changed slightly; check out \h2 (help page two) for details

- I¡¯ve started a settings command to see current settings (\s or \settings).? It¡¯s a work in progress.

73
Goody
K3NG


Re: #sbitx #sbitx-k3ng Spectrum Display Enhancement and More #sBitx #sbitx-k3ng

 

The \settings can just loop through all the controls.?


On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 8:26 AM Anthony Good <anthony.good@...> wrote:
In my latest commit here:


- The center frequency of the spectrum display can be dragged using the mouse (or your finger on the touch screen) in the frequency strip below the spectrum grid.? This took me quite awhile to figure out how to code lol.

- The pitch line is centered on zero for only USB and LSB, all other modes it reflects the PITCH control

- The \sfs (spectrum frequency style) command I created earlier has been replaced by spectrum display frequencies that change format automatically based on the SPAN

- Spectrum display right-click QSY was introduced in an earlier commit, however I¡¯d strongly encourage you to check it out if you haven¡¯t already :-)

- The mouse pointer, reverse scrolling, and tuning acceleration commands have changed slightly; check out \h2 (help page two) for details

- I¡¯ve started a settings command to see current settings (\s or \settings).? It¡¯s a work in progress.

73
Goody
K3NG


#sbitx #sbitx-k3ng Spectrum Display Enhancement and More #sBitx #sbitx-k3ng

Anthony Good
 

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In my latest commit here:


- The center frequency of the spectrum display can be dragged using the mouse (or your finger on the touch screen) in the frequency strip below the spectrum grid. ?This took me quite awhile to figure out how to code lol.

- The pitch line is centered on zero for only USB and LSB, all other modes it reflects the PITCH control

- The \sfs (spectrum frequency style) command I created earlier has been replaced by spectrum display frequencies that change format automatically based on the SPAN

- Spectrum display right-click QSY was introduced in an earlier commit, however I¡¯d strongly encourage you to check it out if you haven¡¯t already :-)

- The mouse pointer, reverse scrolling, and tuning acceleration commands have changed slightly; check out \h2 (help page two) for details

- I¡¯ve started a settings command to see current settings (\s or \settings). ?It¡¯s a work in progress.

73
Goody
K3NG


Re: #sbitx A cool (kludgy) way to remotely use the sbitx #sBitx

 

John,

I do not know the rationale behind needing a full Linux on a Windows PC to run an X-Windows server.? Before finding the VNC option on Raspian (one of the official Raspberry Pi OSes), I used Xming with SSH.? Here is the webpage for Xming:


I do not have it on my PC anymore, as VNC handles all of what I have wanted.? I remember I used Putty to start an SSH and then started Xming from it.

Unless there are reasons for having an actual X-Windows environment, VNC meets most needs.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: sBitx regulator upgrade info/help with problem #sBitx

 

I see you sensibly did a bulk shipment to the USA and then had them posted to individual addresses from there. Did they also get posted to non-US purchasers?
Bill VK7MX


Re: Sbitx manual

 

Here's a quick search on Mouser for an enhancement mode PFET with an Rds of 5 mOhms or less and a continuous drain current of 50 Amps, must be in stock:


A couple TO-220 parts, either would work:



A bunch of surface mount parts with a big heat dissipation pad on the bottom.
Those are usable for the hobbyist with a heat gun and some solder paste.
Or could dead bug them, run a strip of copper over the top for heat dissipation.

Jerry, KE7ER



On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 05:31 PM, Gordon Gibby wrote:

Irf4905 @ .020 ohms ¡ª. Put two of those in parallel and you¡¯ll get .010 ohms which means you can run 10 A through it and have a dissipation of only one watt. ?
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Hopefully once people start returning our economies to normal, better and better MOSFETs will become once again available. ??
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Right now it¡¯s a bit difficult. ?I¡¯m sure Ashhar had to deal with a lot of these problems!!
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Re: Sbitx manual

 

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Irf4905 @ .020 ohms ¡ª. Put two of those in parallel and you¡¯ll get .010 ohms which means you can run 10 A through it and have a dissipation of only one watt. ?

Hopefully once people start returning our economies to normal, better and better MOSFETs will become once again available. ??

Right now it¡¯s a bit difficult. ?I¡¯m sure Ashhar had to deal with a lot of these problems!!




On Sep 5, 2022, at 19:22, JerryP <jponko@...> wrote:

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You could also try the IRF4905 MOSFET P-Channel 55V 74A @$1.50 each which is 0.020 Ohms. The same one used to power the SBITX RF power amp.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 5:27 PM Shirley Dulcey KE1L <mark@...> wrote:
Although those Nanos are no-name clones, the key component on them is normally a real Atmel microcontroller. I gather that some clones of the Atmel chip have started to appear; those should be avoided. Every?Nano clone I have bought has an actual Atmel chip. The Arduino designs are open source hardware, and the bootloader is open source software, so clones are completely legal.

The Nano clones use an inexpensive USB to serial chip from China (originally a CH340G; they have now shifted to a CH340C, which is even cheaper because it has a stable onboard frequency reference and does not require a crystal) rather than the FTDI chip used on a real Nano, but that does not affect their operation in ham applications. (You may have to do the extra step of installing a driver on Windows systems the?first time you connect one.) The FTDI chips are stupidly expensive; the Arduino Uno uses a second Atmel microcontroller just for USB-serial conversion because it's cheaper than the dedicated FTDI chip!

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:26 PM Jerry Gaffke via <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
Tayda looks like a good steer for a cheap PFET.
But be aware that the on resistance of an IRF5305 is 60 milli-Ohms, which is 20 times more than the part Gordon was working with.
So if your rig draws 10 Amps there will be a 10*0.060=0.6 volt drop across this PFET, and you may as well just use a big Schottky diode in series.

Also, IR/Infineon consider this part to be obsolete, so now only made by no-name second tier clone manufacturers.
For example, these guys list the manufacturer as "various".

Not necessarily a bad thing, there are thousands of uBitx's out there with a clone no-name Nano,
and the Nano is far more complicated than a PFET.

I've bought a bunch of stuff from Tayda at their alarmingly low prices, it all seems to work just fine.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 11:41 AM, JerryP wrote:
If you're looking for a P-Channel MOSFET for a power switch then this may be able to use a IRF5305 - TO-220, 55V, 31A, 0.06Ohm RDS On @$0.78 each:
Tayda has a $5.00 minimum order and their USPS shipment is 8-16 days and low cost.? While they may not have everything, it's very low priced and good quality.
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Re: sBitx regulator upgrade info/help with problem #sBitx

Anthony Good
 

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USPS delivery varies greatly these days. ?I haven¡¯t seen mine yet, but today was a holiday in the US. ?I expect we¡¯ll start seeing them this week.

73
Goody
K3NG

On Sep 5, 2022, at 19:53, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:

Art,
They were posted a week ago by usps. Do you know how long it takes them? Has anybody received them at all?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 4:07 AM Art N2AJO <olson339@...> wrote:

Farhan

I haven¡¯t gotten the upgrade parts yet.?


art N2AJO?





Re: sBitx regulator upgrade info/help with problem #sBitx

 

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Farhan

Can¡¯t say. Maybe this week. Will advise when received

Art


On Sep 5, 2022, at 19:53, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:

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Art,
They were posted a week ago by usps. Do you know how long it takes them? Has anybody received them at all?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 4:07 AM Art N2AJO <olson339@...> wrote:

Farhan

I haven¡¯t gotten the upgrade parts yet.?


art N2AJO?


Re: sBitx regulator upgrade info/help with problem #sBitx

 

Art,
They were posted a week ago by usps. Do you know how long it takes them? Has anybody received them at all?

On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 4:07 AM Art N2AJO <olson339@...> wrote:

Farhan

I haven¡¯t gotten the upgrade parts yet.?


art N2AJO?


Re: Sbitx manual

 

You could also try the IRF4905 MOSFET P-Channel 55V 74A @$1.50 each which is 0.020 Ohms. The same one used to power the SBITX RF power amp.


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 5:27 PM Shirley Dulcey KE1L <mark@...> wrote:
Although those Nanos are no-name clones, the key component on them is normally a real Atmel microcontroller. I gather that some clones of the Atmel chip have started to appear; those should be avoided. Every?Nano clone I have bought has an actual Atmel chip. The Arduino designs are open source hardware, and the bootloader is open source software, so clones are completely legal.

The Nano clones use an inexpensive USB to serial chip from China (originally a CH340G; they have now shifted to a CH340C, which is even cheaper because it has a stable onboard frequency reference and does not require a crystal) rather than the FTDI chip used on a real Nano, but that does not affect their operation in ham applications. (You may have to do the extra step of installing a driver on Windows systems the?first time you connect one.) The FTDI chips are stupidly expensive; the Arduino Uno uses a second Atmel microcontroller just for USB-serial conversion because it's cheaper than the dedicated FTDI chip!

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:26 PM Jerry Gaffke via <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
Tayda looks like a good steer for a cheap PFET.
But be aware that the on resistance of an IRF5305 is 60 milli-Ohms, which is 20 times more than the part Gordon was working with.
So if your rig draws 10 Amps there will be a 10*0.060=0.6 volt drop across this PFET, and you may as well just use a big Schottky diode in series.

Also, IR/Infineon consider this part to be obsolete, so now only made by no-name second tier clone manufacturers.
For example, these guys list the manufacturer as "various".

Not necessarily a bad thing, there are thousands of uBitx's out there with a clone no-name Nano,
and the Nano is far more complicated than a PFET.

I've bought a bunch of stuff from Tayda at their alarmingly low prices, it all seems to work just fine.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 11:41 AM, JerryP wrote:
If you're looking for a P-Channel MOSFET for a power switch then this may be able to use a IRF5305 - TO-220, 55V, 31A, 0.06Ohm RDS On @$0.78 each:
Tayda has a $5.00 minimum order and their USPS shipment is 8-16 days and low cost.? While they may not have everything, it's very low priced and good quality.
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Re: #sbitx A cool (kludgy) way to remotely use the sbitx #sBitx

 

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Oops, yes, if you are running an X11 program on the sBITX, you would need to also install a FULL Linux distribution on your Windows machine, which is another step which I can't remember how to do.

But to do it more easily, I'd second the suggestion to use VNC - a server on the sBITX, a client on the Windows or Mac machine.

On 9/5/2022 5:51 PM, John Seboldt K0JD wrote:

Windows 10 and onward includes an SSH client. Just open a cmd window. Can't remember if it needs to be installed. It may be added when you install the Windows Subsystem for Linux. Remember, M$ and Linux are in bed together now ;-)

John K0JD

On 9/4/2022 11:36 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
First, enable ssh on the sbitx.
1. From the main menu, Choose Preferences > Raspberry Pi Configuration
2. Click on the Interfaces tab
3. On the tab and enable SSH if not enabled, Click OK
4. From a terminal on the sbitx, type ifconfig and note the IP address of the sbitx. In my case it was 192.168.1.142

Second, from your linux laptop (yeah, it wont work with windoze, it might work on a mac, let us know)
1. Open a terminal window
2. Enable remote x clients to connect with the command "xhost?+" (without quotes)
3. Next, ssh to your sbitx with a special option like this :
 ssh [email protected] -X
Enter your password (by default it is hf12345).
4. Now you are connected to the sbitx. Go into the sbitx directory 
and execute the program like this:
cd sbitx
./sbitx


Re: #sbitx A cool (kludgy) way to remotely use the sbitx #sBitx

ecc
 

It's not the "ssh" part that's tricky, it's the "ssh -X" (enable X11 forwarding). No X11 on Windows without heroic measures.

As someone else said, an alternative approach that might work on more client platforms would be running a VNC server on the RPi.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 6:52 PM John Seboldt K0JD <k0jd-l@...> wrote:

Windows 10 and onward includes an SSH client. Just open a cmd window. Can't remember if it needs to be installed. It may be added when you install the Windows Subsystem for Linux. Remember, M$ and Linux are in bed together now ;-)

John K0JD

On 9/4/2022 11:36 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
First, enable ssh on the sbitx.
1. From the main menu, Choose Preferences > Raspberry Pi Configuration
2. Click on the Interfaces tab
3. On the tab and enable SSH if not enabled, Click OK
4. From a terminal on the sbitx, type ifconfig and note the IP address of the sbitx. In my case it was 192.168.1.142

Second, from your linux laptop (yeah, it wont work with windoze, it might work on a mac, let us know)
1. Open a terminal window
2. Enable remote x clients to connect with the command "xhost?+" (without quotes)
3. Next, ssh to your sbitx with a special option like this :
 ssh [email protected] -X
Enter your password (by default it is hf12345).
4. Now you are connected to the sbitx. Go into the sbitx directory 
and execute the program like this:
cd sbitx
./sbitx


Re: #sbitx A cool (kludgy) way to remotely use the sbitx #sBitx

 

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Windows 10 and onward includes an SSH client. Just open a cmd window. Can't remember if it needs to be installed. It may be added when you install the Windows Subsystem for Linux. Remember, M$ and Linux are in bed together now ;-)

John K0JD

On 9/4/2022 11:36 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

First, enable ssh on the sbitx.
1. From the main menu, Choose Preferences > Raspberry Pi Configuration
2. Click on the Interfaces tab
3. On the tab and enable SSH if not enabled, Click OK
4. From a terminal on the sbitx, type ifconfig and note the IP address of the sbitx. In my case it was 192.168.1.142

Second, from your linux laptop (yeah, it wont work with windoze, it might work on a mac, let us know)
1. Open a terminal window
2. Enable remote x clients to connect with the command "xhost?+" (without quotes)
3. Next, ssh to your sbitx with a special option like this :
 ssh [email protected] -X
Enter your password (by default it is hf12345).
4. Now you are connected to the sbitx. Go into the sbitx directory 
and execute the program like this:
cd sbitx
./sbitx


Re: sBitx regulator upgrade info/help with problem #sBitx

 

Farhan

I haven¡¯t gotten the upgrade parts yet.?


art N2AJO?


Re: Sbitx manual

 

Although those Nanos are no-name clones, the key component on them is normally a real Atmel microcontroller. I gather that some clones of the Atmel chip have started to appear; those should be avoided. Every?Nano clone I have bought has an actual Atmel chip. The Arduino designs are open source hardware, and the bootloader is open source software, so clones are completely legal.

The Nano clones use an inexpensive USB to serial chip from China (originally a CH340G; they have now shifted to a CH340C, which is even cheaper because it has a stable onboard frequency reference and does not require a crystal) rather than the FTDI chip used on a real Nano, but that does not affect their operation in ham applications. (You may have to do the extra step of installing a driver on Windows systems the?first time you connect one.) The FTDI chips are stupidly expensive; the Arduino Uno uses a second Atmel microcontroller just for USB-serial conversion because it's cheaper than the dedicated FTDI chip!

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:26 PM Jerry Gaffke via <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
Tayda looks like a good steer for a cheap PFET.
But be aware that the on resistance of an IRF5305 is 60 milli-Ohms, which is 20 times more than the part Gordon was working with.
So if your rig draws 10 Amps there will be a 10*0.060=0.6 volt drop across this PFET, and you may as well just use a big Schottky diode in series.

Also, IR/Infineon consider this part to be obsolete, so now only made by no-name second tier clone manufacturers.
For example, these guys list the manufacturer as "various".

Not necessarily a bad thing, there are thousands of uBitx's out there with a clone no-name Nano,
and the Nano is far more complicated than a PFET.

I've bought a bunch of stuff from Tayda at their alarmingly low prices, it all seems to work just fine.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 11:41 AM, JerryP wrote:
If you're looking for a P-Channel MOSFET for a power switch then this may be able to use a IRF5305 - TO-220, 55V, 31A, 0.06Ohm RDS On @$0.78 each:
Tayda has a $5.00 minimum order and their USPS shipment is 8-16 days and low cost.? While they may not have everything, it's very low priced and good quality.
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Re: Sbitx manual

 

The parts that I suggested?have much much lower Rdson which is why I picked them.......

Gordon


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 4:26 PM Jerry Gaffke via <jgaffke=[email protected]> wrote:
Tayda looks like a good steer for a cheap PFET.
But be aware that the on resistance of an IRF5305 is 60 milli-Ohms, which is 20 times more than the part Gordon was working with.
So if your rig draws 10 Amps there will be a 10*0.060=0.6 volt drop across this PFET, and you may as well just use a big Schottky diode in series.

Also, IR/Infineon consider this part to be obsolete, so now only made by no-name second tier clone manufacturers.
For example, these guys list the manufacturer as "various".

Not necessarily a bad thing, there are thousands of uBitx's out there with a clone no-name Nano,
and the Nano is far more complicated than a PFET.

I've bought a bunch of stuff from Tayda at their alarmingly low prices, it all seems to work just fine.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 11:41 AM, JerryP wrote:
If you're looking for a P-Channel MOSFET for a power switch then this may be able to use a IRF5305 - TO-220, 55V, 31A, 0.06Ohm RDS On @$0.78 each:
Tayda has a $5.00 minimum order and their USPS shipment is 8-16 days and low cost.? While they may not have everything, it's very low priced and good quality.
?
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Re: #sbitx A cool (kludgy) way to remotely use the sbitx #sBitx

 

That's not entirely accurate. VNC does not use the X Windows protocol, It uses its own Remote Frame Buffer protocol, which is a simple one that just sends the bitmap of the screen (compressed to keep the bandwidth requirement reasonable), along with handling keyboard and mouse information. VNC clients are available for just about any modern computing device, including Linux, Windows, Mac, iOS, and Android devices.

VNC DOES do the same job from the end user's point of view, which is to allow you to remotely operate a computer. That's the important takeaway here.

The X Windows protocol is complex and sends both text and graphics that?get?rendered on the user's system, requiring an X server to run on the destination computer to interpret. (The terminology of X server and client feels backwards to me: the end user sits in front of an X SERVER and the remote system being operated is a CLIENT.) X servers (remember the backwards designations) are also available for many OSes, but installing one on a system where X is not the native display method (like Windows) is more complex than installing a VNC client. One of the reasons it is designed that way is that it was meant to work back in the days of low bandwidth connections; just sending the descriptions of what will appear on the screen and letting the user's system render them often requires fewer bits to be sent.

On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 9:55 AM Evan Hand <elhandjr@...> wrote:
Farhan,

The Raspberry Pi OS has VNC built in.? That will open an X-window environment on any operating system.? Here is a link on how to set up to use VNC on a Raspberry Pi:


73
Evan
AC9TU