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Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?
I vote YES. It's difficult to suss thru different threads - so much so, I've stopped reading it (to a large degree). I have a 'first gen' (Ver 3 PCB?) - and an older BitX20.? |
Re: Raduino Fix
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYes, sorry, that is what I get for
working late.
On 8/28/2018 11:42 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Gordon Gibby
¿ªÔÆÌåÓý?Great!? ?Perhaps it will help some people who are concerned about the harmonics.? ?The total cost of the kit boiled down to
$2.50 or less for the board when purchased in quantity of 10 or so from China even with 1 week DHL shipping $11 or so for the three relays $2 or so for the inductors and capacitors Use IN4001-1N4007 for the diodes (I should have speified that!)??
So about $15 and some elbow grease to really knock down the harmonics.? ?I pay more than that for a 12V battery!
What a great ubitx transceiver Ashar F. developed for the world!
Cheers,
Gordon
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of iz oos <and2oosiz2@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2018 8:58 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx ?
Right Gordon, I will study the documents so I might replicate a hopefully reasonably good copy of it. Thanks very much! Il 29/ago/2018 14:38, "Gordon Gibby" <ggibby@...> ha scritto:
H? iz oos - |
Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Right Gordon, I will study the documents so I might replicate a hopefully reasonably good copy of it. Thanks very much! Il 29/ago/2018 14:38, "Gordon Gibby" <ggibby@...> ha scritto: H? iz oos - |
Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Gordon Gibby
H? iz oos -
I can't really provide "kit service" since I'm a physician by trade and this would take way more time than I am able to commit to the effort.? Perhaps some enterprising soul (or company) will take up the kitting of it.? ?In the meantime, I have now published everything needed to replicate the entire effort --- and I can assist anyone who wishes to become the "kitter" by helping them get boards, etc. Board Gerber Files ready to send to pcbway.com or any other pcb fabrication shop:?? Construction Document:? (how-to):? ? Original DesignDocument (background design information):?? That should be enough for anyone to build it if they understand a bit of schematic reading or can follow photographs!! Gordon |
Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Gordon,
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These spurs start from 0Hz and move up at the rate of 5x, 4x, 3x of the amount the display changes with center is at multiples of 2.5MHz. Example 15Mhz everything almost vanishes but at 14Mhz you will get spurs at 3Mhz, 4MHz and 5Mhz on either side of 15MHz. At some points of the HF I get strong spurs between 0 and 5Mhz.. :-( 2.5Mhz is a common denominator somehow. The max spur spread occurs at 1.25MHz on either side of these homing points. Raj At 29/08/2018, you wrote:
Is there some series resonance in the 80 meter LP filter at 24 MHZ, or why is that one harmonic so much stronger than others? Anyone have an answer? |
Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Hi Gordon,
That is interesting, relays that are polarity sensitive. Maybe that is how they make a "sensitive" relay, by adding a bias magnet inside. I downloaded the data sheet and see the +- on the coil. Glad to know about this before I lay something out without realizing there are now polarity sensitive relays, that are not of the latching variety.? It is interesting the the 7th harmonic (24Mhz) of 80M and the 3rd harmonic (21Mhz) of 40M are both the highest harmonics you have. Maybe it is something that will improve as you experiment with the wiring. Tom, wb6b |
Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Given the tools you have used and for the fact you applied the KISS principle, you made a condiderable work Gordon. Are you planning to provide a kit with detailed information on connections and cut and trace removal or will you provide a detailed information about what to do? Il 29/ago/2018 10:36, "Gordon Gibby" <ggibby@...> ha scritto:
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Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Gordon Gibby
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI ¡®d like to point out that if the relays are placed on the (normal) TOP of the board, they would work fine as wired & not require the rewriting I had to do.?Board was laid out correctly with respect to their polarity when installed on top?
Is there some series resonance in the 80 meter LP filter at 24 MHZ, or why is that one harmonic so much stronger than others? ?Anyone have an answer?
Thanks,
Gordon
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Re: uBitx Unfiltered
Ok, it will never be a Ford Cosworth, but at least LPF will polish the tricycle... Il 28/ago/2018 19:53, "Warren Allgyer" <allgyer@...> ha scritto: Alison |
Re: Odd Raduino, How do I Connect it?
#bitx40
Thanks for the clarification Vic, it?s a bitx40. They have the same hardware now for the kits. I also have an older version of bitx40 with the original Raduino version. I?m on track now. And soon enough in the air mainly on digital.
Arne |
Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?
Subgroups is a good feature. QSO parties and raduino can definitely be in subgroups.
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QSO issues in USA wont interest many.. some may not want to follow the raduino discussions. Anyone interested can subscribe to all subgroups! Others can avoid.. Raj At 28/08/2018, you wrote:
There is already a homebrew group and an antennas group. Splitting the radios up would just make a mess of things. |
Re: Raduino Fix
Jack Purdum
I think you mean Arduino Nano, Right? Jack, W8TEE
On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 11:38:30 PM EDT, Howard Fidel <sonic1@...> wrote:
As some of you know, my Raduino died a few weeks ago. The Arduino Uno board failed, so I changed it. The new Arduino worked, but the SI5351 clock chip didn't. I found that the damaged SI5351 damaged the new Ardunio SCL and SDA outputs. I removed the SI5351 and again replaced the Arduino Uno (it is a good thing I bought 3). I then ordered the Adafruit SI5351 breakout board. I the board arrived last Monday, just when I left for a few days in New Mexico and Arizona. I got back last night, and today installed the Adafruit board. Now the Raduino is up and running. I have attached a marked up schematic just in case someone needs to to the same some day, as well as a picture. Although not indicated on the schematic, I also removed R13 and R14 from the Raduino. The Adafruit board it JP1 on the schematic. I also started to work on the filter modifications. I did not get the expected result on 80 meters, and over the next few days, I will try to find out why.? Howard |
Raduino Fix
As some of you know, my Raduino died a few weeks ago. The Arduino Uno board failed, so I changed it. The new Arduino worked, but the SI5351 clock chip didn't. I found that the damaged SI5351 damaged the new Ardunio SCL and SDA outputs. I removed the SI5351 and again replaced the Arduino Uno (it is a good thing I bought 3). I then ordered the Adafruit SI5351 breakout board. I the board arrived last Monday, just when I left for a few days in New Mexico and Arizona. I got back last night, and today installed the Adafruit board. Now the Raduino is up and running. I have attached a marked up schematic just in case someone needs to to the same some day, as well as a picture. Although not indicated on the schematic, I also removed R13 and R14 from the Raduino. The Adafruit board it JP1 on the schematic.
I also started to work on the filter modifications. I did not get the expected result on 80 meters, and over the next few days, I will try to find out why.? Howard |
Re: Right-sided relay harmonic attempted fix for v3/4 ubitx
Gordon Gibby
Glenn --- you should get even BETTER results than I found, since your wires will be shorter!? ? More power to you!!
I think it is now obvious that the "right sided relays" are a huge improvement --- even with unshielded wires flying everywhere!~? ? |