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Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

For several hours now I have composed and edited this message, now
before anybody adds any other comments to this thread I should probably
send this and piss everybody off.

It sounds to me that some people think the group is too big and needs to
be broken up. Now the one thing that attracted me to this group was the
community, people helping other people with various radio problems.
Personal opinion here, break up the group you may kill the community.

How to handle the flow.

Digests have been mentioned. My personal experience with digests in
another group in the past was that the digest pretty much trashed all
threading and made everything hard to follow. My eventual solution was
to take the entire email flow and have my email client do the threading.
It was much easier to follow that which was interesting to me.

Here are the top tags that have been used, you can try searching on some
of those.

#ubitx 418 threads
#ubitx-help 84 threads
#bitx40 75 threads
#bitx40help 57 threads
#parts 30 threads
#radiuno 22 threads
#bitx20help 18 threads
#w8tee 18 threads
#firmware 13 threads
#bitx20 13 threads

I read this group via email, my email client has no problem threading
messages, it also has search and filtering capabilities on a couple of
levels. I have filters, pretty much inactive now, that put certain
addresses and subjects right straight in the bit bucket. If your email
client does not have those capabilities then use the web page, you can
do searches from there.

There are related groups on groups.io as well. This is not a complete
list, just some of those that I find interesting so far.

SoftwareControlledHamRadio 1107 members 44 messages this month
HBTE (Home Brew Test Equipment) 156 members 124 messages this month
antennas 168 members 130 messages this month

And of course.

BITX20 6469 members 2524 messages this month

So this BITX20 group has lots of members and lots of messages every
month. Could some of the traffic here be spread out over some of these
other groups? Yes, and I believe that will happen over time as a couple
of those groups are less than a month old, but this will still be a busy
group and each of us will have to find strategies to deal with that.

There is no single strategy that will work for everybody. I personally
read every single message, I also follow 6 other Ham Radio related lists
and read 200 - 1000 pages of other material most days as well. But I
like to read.

Getting 6469 people to all do things a certain way is kind of like
herding cats. I think I heard that around here recently, not quite in
that context but pretty close I think.

Art N4EZZ <n4ezz@...>
GnuPG key ID 0x6712DD0E
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I need a little tingle once and awhile.
WA0JYD

On 08/28/2018 08:08 AM, ab2ts wrote:
How about it? ? It is getting very hard to search and find posts just for the radio I have.


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

Considering the mods can't get people to stay on topic in a thread, why should it be assumed the same won't happen with subgroups? Who is going to spend the time moving topics around? Like Arv pointed out, you can mute threads.

To the guy pointing out the name of the group is bitx20, Read the group description.?


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

Subgroups may not be the solution that some would like.? Here is what the
help page says about subgroups.

Subgroups

Groups.io supports subgroups. A subgroup is a group within another group.
When viewing your group on the website, you can create a subgroup by clicking
the 'Subgroup' tab on the left side. The email address of a subgroup is of the form [email protected].
Subgroups have all the functionality of normal
groups, with the exceptions that to be a member of a subgroup, you must be a
member of the parent group, and you cannot invite people to join subgroups.
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Once a person is a member of the parent group, they can subscribe directly to the
subgroup if it's permitted, they can be added directly to the subgroup, or they can
ask to join the subgroup if it is restricted.


does support several methods of controlling how much email you receive, and when
that occurs.? Problem is that they do not support this being done by proxy.? Most of it only works
when you are directly logged into <>.? This means that if you are using an email
handler (gmail, hotmail, etc.) to view your email you may not have access to those tools that are
uniquely supported by .? You might want to log directly into the BITX20 group and then
configure how messages are handled with respect to your ID.? Once configured the handling
should control how messages are delivered to your email handler.? It works with gmail, but I
have not tested it with any other 3rd party email tools.

Arv
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 12:47 PM Bill Bates <billy.bates@...> wrote:
Amen too ?

From: Roy Appleton
Sent: ?28/?08/?2018 07:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

Amen!

Roy
WA0YMH

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 12:59 PM DuWayne Schmidlkofer <duwayne@...> wrote:

-- If there were only a couple messages a day it might make sense to keep everything together.? But I have received over 3000 digests, and it has become nearly impossible to determine which flavor BITX the messages are for.? I have a Bitx20, Bitx40 and a uBitx , it would be nice to not have to wade through all the messages and ignore the 300+ messages about End Fed antennas to find information related to my Bitx40.? ? I belong to other Groups that have sub-groups and they work well for keeping things a little more organized.
DuWayne? KV4QB


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

I vote for subgroups - PLEASE!


Re: Is this IMD?

Warren Allgyer
 

Allison

If the IMD were "perfect" you would see two tones, period. :-)

WA8TOD


Re: Nextion 3.2 for CEC 1.097 #ubitx

John Lauber
 

Nikos,? I do have the 3.5" Nextion display (¡­.T035-011) and would love to have the files (you can send them to jlauber@...).? As for changing the x,y, h and w values, in the Nextion editor, click on any element of the display, and the Attribute page for that element pops up...scroll down to the bottom of the list and you'll find x, y, h and w and you can simply edit them.? But getting the right values to put in those is the devil in these details!

73
John


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

Actually all the uBITX message are NOT BITX20 related!


On August 28, 2018 at 2:45 PM Bill Bates <billy.bates@...> wrote:

Amen too ?

From: Roy Appleton
Sent: ?28/?08/?2018 07:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

Amen!

Roy
WA0YMH

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 12:59 PM DuWayne Schmidlkofer < duwayne@...> wrote:

-- If there were only a couple messages a day it might make sense to keep everything together.? But I have received over 3000 digests, and it has become nearly impossible to determine which flavor BITX the messages are for.? I have a Bitx20, Bitx40 and a uBitx , it would be nice to not have to wade through all the messages and ignore the 300+ messages about End Fed antennas to find information related to my Bitx40.? ? I belong to other Groups that have sub-groups and they work well for keeping things a little more organized.
DuWayne? KV4QB

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Re: uBitx Unfiltered

 

Warren,

To that we are both in the same pew.? Bandaids are turning to cardiac surgery.
Unfortunate that that is the case.

I've gone back to modernizing a old atlas that was a parts dog for fun.
A display, Arduino, and 5351 can do a lot for that one.?

Allison


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

Bill Bates
 

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Amen too ?


From: Roy Appleton
Sent: ?28/?08/?2018 07:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

Amen!

Roy
WA0YMH

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 12:59 PM DuWayne Schmidlkofer <duwayne@...> wrote:

-- If there were only a couple messages a day it might make sense to keep everything together.? But I have received over 3000 digests, and it has become nearly impossible to determine which flavor BITX the messages are for.? I have a Bitx20, Bitx40 and a uBitx , it would be nice to not have to wade through all the messages and ignore the 300+ messages about End Fed antennas to find information related to my Bitx40.? ? I belong to other Groups that have sub-groups and they work well for keeping things a little more organized.
DuWayne? KV4QB


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

That assumes that the end users would use them properly. Its already impossible to get a thread to stay on topic. You can always set a thread to be muted if you don't want 300 messages regarding efhw antennas. Besides, who is going to do the labour required, you?

A great example is the same thread coming back even though a group was created for antennas. Nice idea, hard to implement.?


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

Amen!

Roy
WA0YMH

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018, 12:59 PM DuWayne Schmidlkofer <duwayne@...> wrote:

-- If there were only a couple messages a day it might make sense to keep everything together.? But I have received over 3000 digests, and it has become nearly impossible to determine which flavor BITX the messages are for.? I have a Bitx20, Bitx40 and a uBitx , it would be nice to not have to wade through all the messages and ignore the 300+ messages about End Fed antennas to find information related to my Bitx40.? ? I belong to other Groups that have sub-groups and they work well for keeping things a little more organized.
DuWayne? KV4QB


Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 


-- If there were only a couple messages a day it might make sense to keep everything together.? But I have received over 3000 digests, and it has become nearly impossible to determine which flavor BITX the messages are for.? I have a Bitx20, Bitx40 and a uBitx , it would be nice to not have to wade through all the messages and ignore the 300+ messages about End Fed antennas to find information related to my Bitx40.? ? I belong to other Groups that have sub-groups and they work well for keeping things a little more organized.
DuWayne? KV4QB


Re: uBitx Unfiltered

Warren Allgyer
 

Alison

i have put my uBitx on the shelf and plan no further work on it. Just too many issues trying to make a Ford out of a tricycle. I put these up as an assist for those still trying.?

WA8TOD


Re: uBitx Unfiltered

 

Warren,

That is indeed a mess.

One place to look is pull power to the amp.? Look at the output of the 9 element 30mhz filter
peak level should be under -10dbm.? ?The stuff you will see there is not good and varies
with CW and SSB.? ?Then look before the filter (with it disconnected).? IF you look at both
those spots with and with out the power amp operating you also get a different mix of
spurs with different amplitudes.? ?It is especially bad above 17M.? You get at the output
of the 34mhz low pass a mix of signals that changes if the power amp is working into
a dummy load or turned off.

It suggests unwanted coupling and board level current loops.? It appears to be some of it
is signals introduced into the 45mhz wide band amp after the crystal filter.??

The 30mhz low pass was stated as not being adequate from testing then and
would found to be so again.

7/28/2016 part of the email stream at the beginning on freelists.
For myself I'd grab a bag of latching relays and build band specific filters.? That we know
can work but while its repetitive circuits is not always simple to do well (or tune up).

Back then I was told I didn't know shit and so I stopped saying it as was not to beb said
I had all the work and testing on a bench proto to the contrary.? Back then it was
failed TRX Minima as it has all sorts of unwanted outputs using a 20mhz IF and
minimal filtering while trying to cover 3-30mhz.? ?That begat HF1 Dual conversion
with crystal oscillators for CIO and 2nd conversion from a two pole 45mhz LC filter
and morphed into beginning of uBitx by early 2017.? ?The first version only had
2 than a bit later three low pass filters for 3-30mhz.? The goal then was as is
now 3-30 and very few filters.? Parts availability were big divers as in variable
caps and coils.

Allison


Re: Is this IMD?

 

Distortion is the likely animal.?

If its more than 40db down that is not bad and not to worry about it.

To see IMD you need two equal tones inside the filter pass band with non harmonic relationship.
I use a 750hz and 1750hz as thse are in the typical voice bandwidth.

IF the IMD were perfect you see two tones in the sideband and much weaker ones
(more than 40-50db down) in the apposing sideband.? IF the IMD were poor you see
a flock of new tones (750+1750 and 750-1750 and harmonics of those) with varying
amplitude inside the filter pass band and outside of it.

Allison


Re: ubitx consensus for 2n3904 smt replacement

 

There are other versions of 2n2222 in SMT, DXT2222.

The MMBTh10 is better than the 3904 as is the SMT 2n2369 (mmbt2369) and BFR106.

As to voltage that spot (Q90)should not see more than maybe 16V ever.

Allison


Re: Wow... 15 volts in and a bunch out..

 

Mag loops...? Mis named.? ?Resonant small loop.

They run about -12db on 40M for a soso one and maybe -10db for a good one
compared to a dipole at 40ft or more.? This is for a 1M diameter loop at 40M? ?
The problem is radiation resistance is so low and other resistance in the
build can be significant.? Go up in frequency? Efficiency goes up but 80% is peak
as then you get to effects of uneven current distorting the pattern.

However the better the loop is the more tuning required as the bandwidth is narrow.
good for spurs and all and compact but like all small antennas (less than 1/10th
wavelength) they are inefficient.?

Its advantage self completing antenna, small,? has good null that can
help with noise reduction.

Oh we had a CME hit Saturday turning the bands upside down.

Allison


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

 

On Tue, Aug 28, 2018 at 08:48 AM, Ajay Kashikar wrote:
Can some one (who has used Myantenna or 49:1 home brewed EFHW antenna) share the experience if it was not working or any remidial action taken (added tuner) and which made it functional.
Ajay,
The map below shows most of my QSO's with a Myantennas EFHW-8010P fed with 50' RG8X direct from my ?BITX.

?
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Re: Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

IF we don't take advantage of groups.Io for other topic centric groups we end up with mush.

Why do that?? Because people interested in antennas and not bitx interest will likely not look here.

Might as well start talking about old computers here rather than vintage computers forum.
After all the uBitx has a MPu and many of us worked with computers.

Allison


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

Warren Allgyer
 

Ajay,

Just one clarification: You may use a 49:1 transformer or you may use a tuner. You do not need both.

Have fun!

WA8TOD