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20 meter two-tone

 

pix or it didn't happen

Also, too meant to put this up earlier .
for some guidance as to how the "big boys" do it, google "arrl lab test procedures manual"

Maybe some insight ..Jim


Re: A modern AD or SI5351/570 for an old dial !

 

Should be possible to use the old HW7 mechanical dial to program an Si5351..
I assume the rig has the usual variable cap in the VFO for tuning, 180 degrees of rotation.
One possibility would be to replace the variable cap with a high quality linear potentiometer,
watch the voltage from the pot with an ADC? ?Use that measured voltage to program an Si5351.
After mechanically installing the pot, use the ADC to measure the voltage at the bottom of the dial?
and at the top for each band, and associate those ADC values with the dial frequency
at those positions? All points in between are linear on both the dial and on the pot,
and so should map well enough.? A 10 bit ADC is just barely sufficient, 12 bits would be better.
If the dial is not quite linear, the software could perform piecewise linear interpolation.


The Bitx40 used a pot for tuning, read from an ADC, programming an Si5351..
So the code is pretty much already written.
I suggest you start with Allards codebase, he takes a number of measures to avoid?
noise from the pot which would otherwise cause small jumps in frequency.
? ??

Alternately, use an ADC and digital IO pins to measure the existing variable capacitor:
? ??/g/BITX20/message/52471

Jerry, KE7ER



On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 02:05 PM, ajparent1/KB1GMX wrote:
This has appeared in may places...

it would be a royal pain to get a mechanical dial to encode to feed a DDS or 5351/570.

As other suggested a tiny oled display is a good way to go.

One I've seen was pretty slick but much more effort was to place a larger matrix
LCD (or oled) behind the existing slot and make a software moving dial display.
Takes a bit of programming to paint the dial (curved with dots and numbers)
and update it with a standard encoder.

To do that in the HW7 would be a lot of work.

Allison


Re: Modular uBitx - "Ex: Harmonics"

 

Allison

Oh well, it was worth asking.

Randy, K7AGE

On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 10:38 AM, ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...> wrote:
Randy,

Its not a drop in as you need about 13dbm (20mw) of drive.? Many of
the ills noted are before that.? Using Q90 and predriver stages would
give you that but,? by then its already not gain flat by any means.

It would not solve many of the issues by a long shot because of that.
A driver and predriver would be needed, better output filters are still
a must.? In a modular component system the modules still have to?
perform well.??

Allison



New Group Specifically for "Homebrew Test Equipment"

 

Hello

A few days ago I mentioned an idea for starting a separate discussion group for
home-brew ham radio test equipment.? The idea still seems interesting but I seem
to be struggling with what to call the group.? It needs to be short enough to type in
easily, and still definitive enough to not be confused with equipment for testing
pigs or homemade beer,? Some possible options that come to mind:
  • ??? (probably too long)
  • ? (Home Brew Test Equipment)
  • or....?
There are probably a myriad of better names.? Any ideas?

My Linux NFS File Server has a Test Equipment directory that already has
several ideas which could be used as a start for this new discussion group.
I am sure that others have similar card files or computer files which would be
interesting to the rest of us who like building our own test equipment.? This
does raise questions about how to differentiate hardware test equipment
projects from combination hardware and software based test equipment?

On a slightly different direction........
In the past there have been a few complaints about the amount of software
discussion here on the BITX20 forum.? That raises the question of possibly
starting a separate discussion group specifically for software that is relative
to BITX based equipment.? Again, if such a forum were established, what
should it be called?
  • groups/g/BSoft
  • or...?
In the case of Homebrew Test Equipment and a possible new BITX-Software
group we would need a couple of volunteer moderators for each group.

We already have spawned an Antenna discussion group at
which is working quite well.? The moderators are doing a good job and some
interesting discussion has started.

I can start new discussion groups, but it is possible that someone else could do
the same.? The process involves logging into the "create a group" page and
filling out the form.? The process is quite easy and straightforward.

It will not hurt my feelings if you want to start one of the above groups, or another
group.? If you have ever envisioned yourself as being the Lord and King of a
discussion group...Go For It !

Arv? K7HKL
_._


Re: uBitX CW bandwith

 

Howard,

As a learning test bed and experimental platform its great.? I've had a lot of fun with
it and it has lead to other projects.? I'm sill playing with the Raduino as I write.

As a result a beat Atlas210X will get the ideas born with Raduino but in a old
school 5 band (80/40/10/15/10) radio but with modern ideas like split dual VFO,
and other tricks the Arduino/5351 combo can deliver.? That and a really nice
power amp for QRP.? ReAtlas210 maybe.? It was a good radio that worked
but that sample had a VFO that was really bad and someone hacked up
the power amp.? As many might now its also modular inside with the three
plug in boards.

Allison



Re: Two-tone test

 

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That¡¯s better. ??

Regards?
Adrian?


On 20 Aug 2018, at 6:49 am, jim via Groups.Io <ab7vf@...> wrote:



On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 12:24:04 PM PDT, Kevin Rea <reakevinscott@...> wrote:


Hi Jim, how do you connect the ubittek to the oscilloscope?


Re: Two-tone test

jim
 



On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 12:24:04 PM PDT, Kevin Rea <reakevinscott@...> wrote:


Hi Jim, how do you connect the ubittek to the oscilloscope?
_._,_._,_

For two-tone test?? "ubitx">>>>dummy load>>>>Tektronix P6100 10:1 probe to hot end of dummy load

QRP levels will not exceed scope limits (5 w ~ 40 V (p-p)

Jim


Re: Two-tone test

jim
 



On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 10:41:59 AM PDT, ajparent1/KB1GMX <kb1gmx@...> wrote:


Lets see if that is near the same on 20M.

Allison
_._,_._,_

I expect to do another series at the dummy load soonest

Jim


Re: A modern AD or SI5351/570 for an old dial !

 

This has appeared in may places...

it would be a royal pain to get a mechanical dial to encode to feed a DDS or 5351/570.

As other suggested a tiny oled display is a good way to go.

One I've seen was pretty slick but much more effort was to place a larger matrix
LCD (or oled) behind the existing slot and make a software moving dial display.
Takes a bit of programming to paint the dial (curved with dots and numbers)
and update it with a standard encoder.

To do that in the HW7 would be a lot of work.

Allison


Comport issues

 

Finally after many attempts I was able to load the ch341 driver. It shows up in device manager as Lpt and com 3. When I install my as card it shows up as D: when I try to upload from Nextion editor it tells me connection failed. Nextion is using com 3. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I have been struggling. KN4LPH thanks


Re: uBITX new build, quiet audio #ubitx

Jack Purdum
 

Check your ground connections and you might try throwing on a couple of caps on the power leads to see if the hum is reduced. If you have a 12V battery, try running it on that. If the hum is still there, that pretty much tells you the hum is coming from somewhere else.

Jack, W8TEE


On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 12:53:31 PM EDT, Benjamin Von Handorf <von.handorf@...> wrote:


Apologies, I suspect this is a common question but my poor google-fu hasn't turned up anything other than a blown TDA2822, which I don't think is my issue.

I just finished my ?BITX build (v3 board... arrived the week before v4 came out :) ) and my receive audio is very quiet, both through headphones and through an 8 ohm speaker.? Even with the volume turned up to 100% even reasonably strong clear signals are almost swamped by hum (which I believe is power supply related, I don't think that's anything to do with the ?BITX).

I do get audio, so I believe the fundamental wiring is correct and the volume does modulate with the volume pot.? I'm running off a 12V wall wart (reads at 12.2), so the power is a little below 14.1 but I'm not looking at the TX side yet.? The front panel of my case is metal, with the volume pot, rotary encoder and all the 3.5mm jacks mounted in it but I've tried removing them from the metal plate and it didn't seem to change the behavior at all.

This is my first real radio build, so while I get the high level concepts I don't know where to look for mistakes when things don't work right.? Can anyone provide any guidance on where to find my screw-ups?

Thanks,

-Ben


Re: A modern AD or SI5351/570 for an old dial !

Jack Purdum
 

Robert:

Why would it be "much easier" with an OLED? Many color TFT displays work with I2C? and are actually cheaper. The coding is about the same.

Jack, W8TEE


On Sunday, August 19, 2018, 3:54:05 PM EDT, Robert McClements <gm4cid@...> wrote:


Hi,

An interesting concept, difficult part will be keeping the original dial if your intention is to maintain the original dial markings.
It would be much easier if you were to consider using a small 0.91 inch OLED for your display,? google 0.91 inch OLED Display.

There was a post earlier on her detailing how to derive quadrature outputs from the si5351 using an arduino.


Re: A modern AD or SI5351/570 for an old dial !

Robert McClements
 

Hi,

An interesting concept, difficult part will be keeping the original dial if your intention is to maintain the original dial markings.
It would be much easier if you were to consider using a small 0.91 inch OLED for your display,? google 0.91 inch OLED Display.

There was a post earlier on her detailing how to derive quadrature outputs from the si5351 using an arduino.


Re: Two-tone test

Kevin Rea
 

Hi Jim, how do you connect the ubittek to the oscilloscope?


Re: uBITX new build, quiet audio #ubitx

Kevin Rea
 

Hi Ben, I got around this problem by connecting a pair of computer speakers with built-in amplifier. Now it work just fine.
Kevin Rea
K6REA


Re: uBitX CW bandwith - sidetone

 

Hi,

I successfully transplanted a 50k pot harvested from an old transistor radio. With 50k turned all the way "down" the sidetone is comparable to incoming signals:) No more shattered eardrums.

And now - on to the CEC software.

73,

Bill KU8H

On 08/19/2018 01:39 PM, RCBoatGuy via Groups.Io wrote:
I think a lot of the problem stems from the uBitx being perceived as a
cheap multi-band SSB/CW radio that is mostly ready to install and use
out of the box. In essence, most people don't perceive it as an
experimental kit radio, despite strong evidence to the contrary, but
rather see it (wrongly) as a much more finished product than it is.

I also know that many purchases in today's world are impulse buys, and
people that buy on impulse rarely research things before hand, much less
pay attention to specs.

Perception and impulse buying are hard things to deal with in a
practical way, especially when nearly all of today's advertising tries
to get you to buy on impulse. :(

73,

Carl, K0MWC
--
bark less - wag more


Re: BITX QSO Afternoon/Evening, Sunday, August 19, 3PM & 7PM Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere.

John P
 

Tried FT8. If I can't work anyone there (and I don't seem to be able to), QRP SSB isn't going to work! Try again tonight! Back to the Yankees game!
--
John - WA2FZW


Re: uBITX new build, quiet audio #ubitx

 

Arv,

I have this hooked up to a 20/40m trap dipole that has been performing OK on WSPR, so I believe the antenna is at least acceptable.? I did my RX checks on 20 and 40.??

I'll take a look at the antenna connection.? I used the keyed connection provided with the radio but I may have reversed it on the BNC connector side.

Thanks for the pointers!

-Ben KN4COI


Re: BITX QSO Afternoon/Evening, Sunday, August 19, 3PM & 7PM Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere.

John P
 

I'm on 7.277. Anyone else?

--
John - WA2FZW


Re: Orange pi H3 plus

 

Like the Asus Tinker board its goal is improved RPi.

The problem you may encounter is incompatible devices with some
applications for PI.

However with that pointed out yes more performance than RPi3B
not that is a weakling.

Allison