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Re: Stability?

Hans Summers
 

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Ron, Raj...
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I have a simple DDS design too, which doesn't need microprocessors: ?. It would be possible to replace the DIP switches with up/down counters, driven perhaps by an optical shaft encoder. Not an optical encoder you buy very expensively! There are two in every computer mouse, available usually as free scrap. Just a little work required to convert it into a shaft encoder.
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Personally though I am still nervous about the noise and spurious outputs from DDS generators. I'm Ok with using it in a transmitter but I'd worry about using it in a receiver and degrading performance. Perhaps I'm just paranoid. Mine is currently driving my QRSS beacon ?which is currently QRV on 10,140,050 MHz with 250mW to an indoor attic dipole.
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73 Hans G0UPL

-----Original Message-----
From: Raj [mailto:ggrk@...]
Sent: 03 February 2005 15:04
To: BITX20@...
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Stability?

Ron,

????????Reminds me of the old days as a youngster building Valve VFO, enclosing it in a box etc.. For PSK: I suggest that you take this requirement to the another extreme and build a DDS VFO !!! Not Joking, its actually the best of both worlds.. Its tough to make a VFO with 10Hz stability.

????????Try replacing the 56pf next to Q5 with polystyrene.. it should give your major improvement.

????????No recent experience with digital. I used to run a bbs till some years ago..

73 Raj vu2zap

At 03/02/2005, you wrote:
I really appreciate your quick reply Raj,
No you did not confuse me.
This forum is alive !
Yes I used the ceramic ones for initial trails. I have some polysterene ones (old!! from Philips radios) in my junkbox and will do some trials coming days.
What is your feeling about making the 2 transistor vfo as shown in the original schematics working with a freq. drift of 10Hz or less (this is a tough requirement for digimodes like psk31).
Is there experience with the bitx working with digimodes (rtty, psk31...) as far as you know?
?
73 and again tnx fer advice!
Ron


Raj wrote:
Ron,

???????? This is probably because of ceramic capacitors being used the
oscillator stages. Components that determine frequency must be ultra-stabe.
Use NP0 caps, brown ceramics with a black top. You can also use
polystyrene, they are transparent plastic with a silver foil visible
inside. They were only available in the old days in small pF values less
than 5Kpf.

???????? I usually pour bees wax on top of oscillator components to keep
them thermally isolated and keep them from shaking.

???????? Avoid ceramic caps in audio stages, it causes microphonics. Tap
them and you will hear a thump in the speaker/transmission. Use
mylar/polyester.

???????? Do not use mylar/polyester type caps in RF stages for bypass,
instead use ceramic. Polyester work well in audio for coupling.

???????? Ceramic = brown round disks
???????? Polyester/Mylar = green like a chewing gum with leads.

???????? Hope I have not confused you..

73 Raj
vu2zap

>MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
>stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
>exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
>circuit for stabilizing purposes.
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Re: Stability?

Raj
 

Ron,

????????Reminds me of the old days as a youngster building Valve VFO, enclosing it in a box etc.. For PSK: I suggest that you take this requirement to the another extreme and build a DDS VFO !!! Not Joking, its actually the best of both worlds.. Its tough to make a VFO with 10Hz stability.

????????Try replacing the 56pf next to Q5 with polystyrene.. it should give your major improvement.

????????No recent experience with digital. I used to run a bbs till some years ago..

73 Raj vu2zap

At 03/02/2005, you wrote:

I really appreciate your quick reply Raj,
No you did not confuse me.
This forum is alive !
Yes I used the ceramic ones for initial trails. I have some polysterene ones (old!! from Philips radios) in my junkbox and will do some trials coming days.
What is your feeling about making the 2 transistor vfo as shown in the original schematics working with a freq. drift of 10Hz or less (this is a tough requirement for digimodes like psk31).
Is there experience with the bitx working with digimodes (rtty, psk31...) as far as you know?
?
73 and again tnx fer advice!
Ron


Raj wrote:
Ron,

???????? This is probably because of ceramic capacitors being used the
oscillator stages. Components that determine frequency must be ultra-stabe.
Use NP0 caps, brown ceramics with a black top. You can also use
polystyrene, they are transparent plastic with a silver foil visible
inside. They were only available in the old days in small pF values less
than 5Kpf.

???????? I usually pour bees wax on top of oscillator components to keep
them thermally isolated and keep them from shaking.

???????? Avoid ceramic caps in audio stages, it causes microphonics. Tap
them and you will hear a thump in the speaker/transmission. Use
mylar/polyester.

???????? Do not use mylar/polyester type caps in RF stages for bypass,
instead use ceramic. Polyester work well in audio for coupling.

???????? Ceramic = brown round disks
???????? Polyester/Mylar = green like a chewing gum with leads.

???????? Hope I have not confused you..

73 Raj
vu2zap

>MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
>stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
>exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
>circuit for stabilizing purposes.


Re: Stability?

Hans Summers
 

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Hello Ron
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The crystal is 32KHz not MHz! Well, 32.768KHz to be precise, which is an ordinary watch crystal. The 1-chip stabiliser is a little sensitive to adjustment. The resistor ratios in the VFO gating (mine show 56K and 10K) and the differentiator time constant (22pF with 10K) need to be chosen (i.e. adjusted) quite carefully to get it to work. Nevertheless, it does work. Arv K7HKL and I have both succesfully built the 1-chip stabiliser. The 2-chip stabiliser?is neat because the spare half of the 74HC74 behaves as VFO. The 2-chip design is easy to get working, it is not sensitive to ultra-precise choice of component values.
?
Thanks for the panoramic adapter link, I will forward it to my correspondent who is interested in building such a device.
?
73 and good luck
?
Hans G0UPL

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Brink [mailto:pa2rf@...]
Sent: 03 February 2005 14:23
To: BITX20@...
Subject: RE: [BITX20] Re: Stability?

Thanks for advice dear Hans,
Sure the instability of the vfo will increase the the frequency increase.
I was amazed by the one-chip huff&puff circuit on your site with the 32MHz xtal.
Effective and very simple! I knew that zenerdiodes could be used as varicaps, but led's that's new for me.
Try this one if you are interested in homebrew Panoramareceivers:
Have fun,
Ron


Hans Summers wrote:

Hi Ron

Thanks for the nice complements about my website :-)? I had a look around
your website this morning, you have some very interesting projects there. I
sent an email to a fellow who I know is interested in panoramic adapters and
has been corresponding with me about my spectrum analyser (

)

If you are going to build one of the earlier designs, I have most of the
Huff Puff articles in my reference library for download, see
. In performance
terms, I think my 2-chip simplification should perform as well as the
original Huff Puff designs. For the ultimate performance, G7IXH's "fast"
stabiliser is slightly more complex but performs best.

I do know that people have used BITX20's for PSK31 very successfully. But
don't forget that your VFO for 17m is twice the BITX20 VFO's frequency,
therefore it is bound to be less stable (all other things being equal).

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Re: Stability?

Ron Brink
 

Thanks for advice dear Hans,
Sure the instability of the vfo will increase the the frequency increase.
I was amazed by the one-chip huff&puff circuit on your site with the 32MHz xtal.
Effective and very simple! I knew that zenerdiodes could be used as varicaps, but led's that's new for me.
Try this one if you are interested in homebrew Panoramareceivers:
Have fun,
Ron


Hans Summers wrote:

Hi Ron

Thanks for the nice complements about my website :-)? I had a look around
your website this morning, you have some very interesting projects there. I
sent an email to a fellow who I know is interested in panoramic adapters and
has been corresponding with me about my spectrum analyser (

)

If you are going to build one of the earlier designs, I have most of the
Huff Puff articles in my reference library for download, see
. In performance
terms, I think my 2-chip simplification should perform as well as the
original Huff Puff designs. For the ultimate performance, G7IXH's "fast"
stabiliser is slightly more complex but performs best.

I do know that people have used BITX20's for PSK31 very successfully. But
don't forget that your VFO for 17m is twice the BITX20 VFO's frequency,
therefore it is bound to be less stable (all other things being equal).

73 Hans G0UPL








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Re: Stability?

Hans Summers
 

Hi Ron

Thanks for the nice complements about my website :-) I had a look around
your website this morning, you have some very interesting projects there. I
sent an email to a fellow who I know is interested in panoramic adapters and
has been corresponding with me about my spectrum analyser (

)

If you are going to build one of the earlier designs, I have most of the
Huff Puff articles in my reference library for download, see
. In performance
terms, I think my 2-chip simplification should perform as well as the
original Huff Puff designs. For the ultimate performance, G7IXH's "fast"
stabiliser is slightly more complex but performs best.

I do know that people have used BITX20's for PSK31 very successfully. But
don't forget that your VFO for 17m is twice the BITX20 VFO's frequency,
therefore it is bound to be less stable (all other things being equal).

73 Hans G0UPL

-----Original Message-----
From: pa2rf [mailto:pa2rf@...]
Sent: 03 February 2005 12:11
To: BITX20@...
Subject: [BITX20] Re: Stability?




Dear Hans,
Nice website with great designs Hans.
I intend to build a huff-and-puff circuit (design by om Spaargaren
PA0KSB) when i do not get sufficient stability from the circuit as
shown in the original bitx circuitry.
Do you know if succesful qso's have been made with digimodes (psk31,
rtty) using the bitx (without huff & puff circuit).
Regards es 73 de Ron
pa2rf


--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote:

Ron

In case you are not aware of my very simple Huff & Puff VFO
stabiliser
designs, you can read about them here:

<> .
The
2-chip design uses common and cheap IC's 74HC4060 and 74HC74, an
ordinary
32.768KHz watch crystal, and a 5mm red LED for tuning. This design
works
well and has been successfully replicated by at least 5 different
constructors.

73 Hans G0UPL
] Stability?






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Re: Stability?

pa2rf
 

Dear Hans,
Nice website with great designs Hans.
I intend to build a huff-and-puff circuit (design by om Spaargaren
PA0KSB) when i do not get sufficient stability from the circuit as
shown in the original bitx circuitry.
Do you know if succesful qso's have been made with digimodes (psk31,
rtty) using the bitx (without huff & puff circuit).
Regards es 73 de Ron
pa2rf


--- In BITX20@..., Hans Summers <Hans.Summers@t...> wrote:

Ron

In case you are not aware of my very simple Huff & Puff VFO
stabiliser
designs, you can read about them here:

<> .
The
2-chip design uses common and cheap IC's 74HC4060 and 74HC74, an
ordinary
32.768KHz watch crystal, and a 5mm red LED for tuning. This design
works
well and has been successfully replicated by at least 5 different
constructors.

73 Hans G0UPL
] Stability?


Re: BITX17

Ron Brink
 

Dear Ashhar,
It is an honour to me? to chat to the designer of the bitx ! Compliments for the extensive info on the internet. I like the KISS (keep it simple stupid) principle a lot. I appreciate all your good advice. I have made some notes behind each of your hint&tip:
. make all the components connect to each other with short leads and without any 'jiggly' wires.
--That's what i did
2. put an epoxy glue over the coil and stick the coil to the board with a drop of expoy.
-- here i can made an improvement ! Now the fixed value coil floats above the pcb
3. put a sheild around the vfo (i know it is too much work).
--message understood. Yes shielding?improve the situation?
4. Are u connecting to the tuning capacitor with flexible wire? use a short stiff copper wire or a resistor tail end.The ground end should be directly in contact with the chassis.
--yes i used a short thick copper wire to the capacitor's hot end. The ground end is directly soldered onto the pcb
5. Make sure that your regulator is actually regulating. Check the diode (i have often mistakend 1N4148s for other zeners).
--yes it is a stable voltage is measured after the zener.
?
I have used ceramic capacitors and will replace them the the polysterne ones for better performance.

What is your opinion about working with digimodes (like rtty and psk31) with the bitx, Ashhar? Is there any experience in this field ? A 10 Hz stability requirement for psk31 is very though!! (altough i managed to get an old kenwood ts515 with tubes working on psk31..)

Ron
pa2rf
http://home.versatel.nl/laar60


Ashhar Farhan wrote:

the 1 Khz drift is more of a construction problem that a design problem.
I would suggest that you try the following:
1. make all the components connect to each other with short leads and
without any 'jiggly' wires.
2. put an epoxy glue over the coil and stick the coil to the board with a
drop of expoy.
3. put a sheild around the vfo (i know it is too much work).
4. Are u connecting to the tuning capacitor with flexible wire? use a
short stiff copper wire or a resistor tail end.The ground end should be
directly in contact with the chassis.
5. Make sure that your regulator is actually regulating. Check the diode
(i have often mistakend 1N4148s for other zeners).

Unfortunately, an open VFO on a work-bench is rarely stable. Especially,
if your coil has an low permeability like the tap washers.

- farhan

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, pa2rf wrote:

>
>
> Thanks for advice dear Chris,
> Saw on the forum that the BITX17 already? seems to exist!
> OK, past couple of days I started to setup the power supply unit
> capable of delivering the required voltages.
> Also did some trials with a VFO working from 8.060 - 8.180 MHz. (+ 10
> MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
> stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
> exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
> circuit for stabilizing purposes.
> Or maybe a FET Hartley oscillator. We'll see.
> Bye for now and till next time.
> Dank voor je reactie Chris. Leuk om te zien dat andere om druk met de
> bitx in de weer zijn.
> 73 de Ron
> pa2rf
>
>
> --- In BITX20@..., "vdberghak" wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ron,
>> splended idea to make it for 17 mtrs.
>> In your message you asked for suggestions, you want to have more
>> suggestions then all the postings in this newsgroup, including
>> Photos, Files etc?
>> Can you be more precisely what else you need?
>> By the way, you can show your progress in this newsgroup, you do
> not
>> need an other website for it.
>> Best regards,
>> Chris.
>>
>>> Dear bitx20 homebrewers,
>>> I intend to build the BITX for the 17m WARC band (18.068-18.168
>> MHz). My ultimate goal will be to work psk31 with this splendid
> rig.
>> Has anyone suggestions to convert bitx20 to bitx17. VFO must be
>> changed of course and RF filters... I intend to keep my progress
>> updated on my website (see below).
>>> 73 de Ron
>>> PA2RF
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Re: Stability?

Hans Summers
 

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Ron
?
In case you are not aware of my very simple Huff & Puff VFO stabiliser designs, you can read about them here: ?. The 2-chip design uses common and cheap IC's 74HC4060 and 74HC74, an ordinary 32.768KHz watch crystal, and a 5mm red LED for tuning. This design works well and has been successfully replicated by at least 5 different constructors.
?
73 Hans G0UPL
http://www.HansSummers.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Brink [mailto:pa2rf@...]
Sent: 03 February 2005 10:33
To: BITX20@...
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Stability?

I really appreciate your quick reply Raj,
No you did not confuse me.
This forum is alive !
Yes I used the ceramic ones for initial trails. I have some polysterene ones (old!! from Philips radios) in my junkbox and will do some trials coming days.
What is your feeling about making the 2 transistor vfo as shown in the original schematics working with a freq. drift of 10Hz or less (this is a tough requirement for digimodes like psk31).
Is there experience with the bitx working with digimodes (rtty, psk31...) as far as you know?
?
73 and again tnx fer advice!
Ron


Raj wrote:
Ron,

???????? This is probably because of ceramic capacitors being used the
oscillator stages. Components that determine frequency must be ultra-stabe.
Use NP0 caps, brown ceramics with a black top. You can also use
polystyrene, they are transparent plastic with a silver foil visible
inside. They were only available in the old days in small pF values less
than 5Kpf.

???????? I usually pour bees wax on top of oscillator components to keep
them thermally isolated and keep them from shaking.

???????? Avoid ceramic caps in audio stages, it causes microphonics. Tap
them and you will hear a thump in the speaker/transmission. Use
mylar/polyester.

???????? Do not ! use mylar/polyester type caps in RF stages for bypass,
instead use ceramic. Polyester work well in audio for coupling.

???????? Ceramic = brown round disks
???????? Polyester/Mylar = green like a chewing gum with leads.

???????? Hope I have not confused you..

73 Raj
vu2zap

>MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
>stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
>exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
>circuit for stabilizing purposes.


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Re: Stability?

Ron Brink
 

I really appreciate your quick reply Raj,
No you did not confuse me.
This forum is alive !
Yes I used the ceramic ones for initial trails. I have some polysterene ones (old!! from Philips radios) in my junkbox and will do some trials coming days.
What is your feeling about making the 2 transistor vfo as shown in the original schematics working with a freq. drift of 10Hz or less (this is a tough requirement for digimodes like psk31).
Is there experience with the bitx working with digimodes (rtty, psk31...) as far as you know?
?
73 and again tnx fer advice!
Ron


Raj wrote:
Ron,

???????? This is probably because of ceramic capacitors being used the
oscillator stages. Components that determine frequency must be ultra-stabe.
Use NP0 caps, brown ceramics with a black top. You can also use
polystyrene, they are transparent plastic with a silver foil visible
inside. They were only available in the old days in small pF values less
than 5Kpf.

???????? I usually pour bees wax on top of oscillator components to keep
them thermally isolated and keep them from shaking.

???????? Avoid ceramic caps in audio stages, it causes microphonics. Tap
them and you will hear a thump in the speaker/transmission. Use
mylar/polyester.

???????? Do not use mylar/polyester type caps in RF stages for bypass,
instead use ceramic. Polyester work well in audio for coupling.

???????? Ceramic = brown round disks
???????? Polyester/Mylar = green like a chewing gum with leads.

???????? Hope I have not confused you..

73 Raj
vu2zap

>MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
>stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
>exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
>circuit for stabilizing purposes.


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Stability?

Raj
 

Ron,

This is probably because of ceramic capacitors being used the oscillator stages. Components that determine frequency must be ultra-stabe. Use NP0 caps, brown ceramics with a black top. You can also use polystyrene, they are transparent plastic with a silver foil visible inside. They were only available in the old days in small pF values less than 5Kpf.

I usually pour bees wax on top of oscillator components to keep them thermally isolated and keep them from shaking.

Avoid ceramic caps in audio stages, it causes microphonics. Tap them and you will hear a thump in the speaker/transmission. Use mylar/polyester.

Do not use mylar/polyester type caps in RF stages for bypass, instead use ceramic. Polyester work well in audio for coupling.

Ceramic = brown round disks
Polyester/Mylar = green like a chewing gum with leads.

Hope I have not confused you..

73 Raj
vu2zap

MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
circuit for stabilizing purposes.


From the mouths of babes...

Ashhar Farhan
 

i was fooling around with a direct conversion receiver in my shack today when my four year old daughter came in with her friends to play 'wheelie train' (a noisy sport where each participant sits in an office chair holding onto the next one's chair and the front engine pulls everyone around the room).

i was just about to ask them to go out to play, to let me play my thing, when i was offered ... a polo. the mint with a hole.

it immediately went into the direct conversion receiver as a VFO coil. quite stable.

now, a single roll will be enough to build the entire BITX, although I am not sure of the losses. You will have to cover it with some epoxy paint/glue to make sure that ants dont eat up your rig.

i will report back from the toroid sucking convention soon.

- farhan


Re: BITX17

Ashhar Farhan
 

the 1 Khz drift is more of a construction problem that a design problem.
I would suggest that you try the following:
1. make all the components connect to each other with short leads and without any 'jiggly' wires.
2. put an epoxy glue over the coil and stick the coil to the board with a drop of expoy.
3. put a sheild around the vfo (i know it is too much work).
4. Are u connecting to the tuning capacitor with flexible wire? use a short stiff copper wire or a resistor tail end.The ground end should be directly in contact with the chassis.
5. Make sure that your regulator is actually regulating. Check the diode (i have often mistakend 1N4148s for other zeners).

Unfortunately, an open VFO on a work-bench is rarely stable. Especially, if your coil has an low permeability like the tap washers.

- farhan

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005, pa2rf wrote:



Thanks for advice dear Chris,
Saw on the forum that the BITX17 already seems to exist!
OK, past couple of days I started to setup the power supply unit
capable of delivering the required voltages.
Also did some trials with a VFO working from 8.060 - 8.180 MHz. (+ 10
MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
circuit for stabilizing purposes.
Or maybe a FET Hartley oscillator. We'll see.
Bye for now and till next time.
Dank voor je reactie Chris. Leuk om te zien dat andere om druk met de
bitx in de weer zijn.
73 de Ron
pa2rf


--- In BITX20@..., "vdberghak" <vdberghak@z...> wrote:

Dear Ron,
splended idea to make it for 17 mtrs.
In your message you asked for suggestions, you want to have more
suggestions then all the postings in this newsgroup, including
Photos, Files etc?
Can you be more precisely what else you need?
By the way, you can show your progress in this newsgroup, you do
not
need an other website for it.
Best regards,
Chris.

Dear bitx20 homebrewers,
I intend to build the BITX for the 17m WARC band (18.068-18.168
MHz). My ultimate goal will be to work psk31 with this splendid
rig.
Has anyone suggestions to convert bitx20 to bitx17. VFO must be
changed of course and RF filters... I intend to keep my progress
updated on my website (see below).
73 de Ron
PA2RF
pa2rf@y...





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Re: BITX17

pa2rf
 

Thanks for advice dear Chris,
Saw on the forum that the BITX17 already seems to exist!
OK, past couple of days I started to setup the power supply unit
capable of delivering the required voltages.
Also did some trials with a VFO working from 8.060 - 8.180 MHz. (+ 10
MHz IF will give the proper range) Frequency range seems to be ok but
stability is bad. After 20 minutes waiting freq shift of 1 KHz still
exists. I think I will order some components for a HuffAndPuff
circuit for stabilizing purposes.
Or maybe a FET Hartley oscillator. We'll see.
Bye for now and till next time.
Dank voor je reactie Chris. Leuk om te zien dat andere om druk met de
bitx in de weer zijn.
73 de Ron
pa2rf


--- In BITX20@..., "vdberghak" <vdberghak@z...> wrote:

Dear Ron,
splended idea to make it for 17 mtrs.
In your message you asked for suggestions, you want to have more
suggestions then all the postings in this newsgroup, including
Photos, Files etc?
Can you be more precisely what else you need?
By the way, you can show your progress in this newsgroup, you do
not
need an other website for it.
Best regards,
Chris.

Dear bitx20 homebrewers,
I intend to build the BITX for the 17m WARC band (18.068-18.168
MHz). My ultimate goal will be to work psk31 with this splendid
rig.
Has anyone suggestions to convert bitx20 to bitx17. VFO must be
changed of course and RF filters... I intend to keep my progress
updated on my website (see below).
73 de Ron
PA2RF
pa2rf@y...





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Re: BITX17

 

Dear Ron,
splended idea to make it for 17 mtrs.
In your message you asked for suggestions, you want to have more
suggestions then all the postings in this newsgroup, including
Photos, Files etc?
Can you be more precisely what else you need?
By the way, you can show your progress in this newsgroup, you do not
need an other website for it.
Best regards,
Chris.

Dear bitx20 homebrewers,
I intend to build the BITX for the 17m WARC band (18.068-18.168
MHz). My ultimate goal will be to work psk31 with this splendid rig.
Has anyone suggestions to convert bitx20 to bitx17. VFO must be
changed of course and RF filters... I intend to keep my progress
updated on my website (see below).
73 de Ron
PA2RF
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Ron Brink
 

Dear bitx20 homebrewers,
I intend to build the BITX for the 17m WARC band (18.068-18.168 MHz). My ultimate goal will be to work psk31 with this splendid rig. Has anyone suggestions to convert bitx20 to bitx17. VFO must be changed of course and RF filters... I intend to keep my progress updated on my website (see below).
73 de Ron
PA2RF
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Re: Full QSK?

Rahul Srivastava
 

HI!? Farhan and friends,
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With BITX having become so popular CW operations I assume was simply matter of time. Over years many kits have evolved the same route.
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Among the commercial products Travel radio by MFJ is one such popular kit here are the ckts for the CW section including CW keying. Surprisingly the design is in keeping with the the discreet simplicity of BITX.
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Hope the attachment comes thru else I load under files section .
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73
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Rahul VU3WJM

Ashhar Farhan wrote:

How does one go about with full QSK on BITX20?
There is very little switching around.

the most crucial point to me is that the receiver input needs to switch
from the linear amp's output to input. that makes for possible feedbacks
if not isolated properly.

on TX, the bitx's output has to be routed to the linear's input and the
linear's output to the antenna. we should assume that this is how it is
permanently wired. during tx, the linear amp's output should not get back
into input via the electronic switching that will connect the bitx
directly to the antenna.

any ideas?

- farhan


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Full QSK?

Ashhar Farhan
 

How does one go about with full QSK on BITX20?
There is very little switching around.

the most crucial point to me is that the receiver input needs to switch from the linear amp's output to input. that makes for possible feedbacks if not isolated properly.

on TX, the bitx's output has to be routed to the linear's input and the linear's output to the antenna. we should assume that this is how it is permanently wired. during tx, the linear amp's output should not get back into input via the electronic switching that will connect the bitx directly to the antenna.

any ideas?

- farhan


Re: BITX 20 Ver 2 PCB tested

Alex
 

--- In BITX20@..., "vu3wjm" <vu3wjm@y...> wrote:


Hi Rahul

Here we have completed 2 BITX 20s. We used the ver. 2 layout for
PCB. PCB is thankfully without any mistakes however Pin 2 of LM386
also needs to be grounded to ground plain nearby to avoid ground
loop. (Will correct and upload corrected PCB shortly)
Look's really nice, can't wait to make one.!!

73 de OZ2AFY


Re: Assembling Far bitx boards

Ashhar Farhan
 

paul,

the PCBs have been printed component side! to mark the correct side, i had put the letters BITX in the middle of the PCB as a reminder so that it reads properly.

I guess the fault is partly mine, I am used to imagining the circuit from topside, so i designed it from component side. This is my first PCB and i designed it using the Microsoft Paint program. I should have flipped the entire image over before uploading it. I felt that the builder would figure out the correct side looking at the "BITX" text.

Now, there are two resolutions:
1) for the existing boards, put the LM386 on the foil side.
2) bend all the IC legs by 180 degress so that they are all pointing up rather than down, then flip the IC over and solder it in place on the component side.

The new boards will have take care to flip the circuit around.
It might be a good idea for those buying from FAR to be refered to the BITX20@... for updates and help with assembling the board.

- farhan