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Re: Ubitx audio debug question

 

I was very cautious and finally got the uBITX?wiring correct after looking at all the posts.? It was receiving great until I unplugged my headphones and
plugged in a speaker.? I fried U1!? My speaker plug was not stereo it was mono plug!? So that's why U1 audio amp fried.? So I just ordered 2 TDA2822M's
from Amazon.com.? I am unable to use the uBITX until I replace U1.
I am very upset about this audio circuit design!? This circuit seems to be the Achilles heal of this radio, including a?very loud popping between?receive/
transmit.? I would?like to use a speaker in the future.? I will?be sure to be very careful of the wiring of any?speaker.? I hope to have my first contact soon!

A very unhappy
Rod, WA9GQT


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

 

Sure, I bought it from this eBay seller,

Joel
N6ALT


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

K4OSS
 

Looks fabulous, Joel! Could you share the source of your enclosure? Thanks!


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

Daniel Conklin
 

Beautiful!? I love the Heathkit-like colors too.
Dan, W2DLC


Re: Complaint Department

 

Here's where that addenda needs to be curated,
and not the cacophony of firmly held differing opinions we would get with a wiki.
My firmly held (for the moment) differing opinions are:

Operating from 12v, any TDA2822 can blow, even while driving 8 ohms, if you have the volume too high (chip gets too hot).?

If you don't have the volume turned up, shorting the headphones to ground shouldn't blow the TDA2822

Best to limit voltage into the TDA2822 to 5 or 6v, avoids clone Vcc-max trouble and limits power dissipation.
Get the same dB of gain, just distorts sooner when you turn the volume way up.

For a headphone jack, an 8 ohm series resistor avoids any trouble from a short if that's what worries you.
Headphones don't need much power.?

If you also want to drive an external speaker, have a separate mono jack without the series resistor
if you want to avoid shorts to ground.
?
I could go on ....
and probably will.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 08:27 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote:
And the speaker jack is STILL wired up to both the tip and ring. As has been pointed out, a mono plug plugged into it shorts the audio to ground.


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

 

I made the mic from a old ink pen.

Joel
N6ALT


Re: Raduino oscilators. 33mhz and 57mhz. Documentation says one thinng, but this is what I measured.

 

Thankyou Jerry for trying and fairly successfully explaining what Ashhar is doing by using the ACTUAL frequencies used in the uBITX. This is VERY important to this discussion. Any other explanation using completely different frequencies is re-inventing a completely different wheel in my opinion, very confusing. Hopefully discussions about this will continue to use Ashhars frequency plan, thus eliminating much of the confusion.? Thanks again for not being confusing.

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:57 PM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote:
I hate sitting through videos.?
The math involved is addition and subtraction,? no need to solve any differential equations.

The 12mhz crystal filter has a 3dB passband of around 11.996 to 11.998 mhz, something like that.
The BFO on clk0 should be roughly 500hz away from the passband, so either 11.9955 or 11.9985 mhz.
Will vary from rig to rig, crystals get sorted by frequency so each rig has a matched set of crystals for the filter.

Original plan had been to switch the BFO between high and low side when selecting USB vs LSB.
But the 11.9985 mhz BFO had harmonics that beat with the 16mhz harmonics from the Nano processor,
so Farhan elected to freeze the BFO at 11.9955 mhz.? Instead moves the second oscillator
between 33 and 57 mhz when selecting between USB and LSB.
The VFO is always 45mhz higher than the operating frequency.

Here's an old discussion of how it worked on the Bitx40, using very round numbers to make it easy to follow:
? ??/g/BITX20/message/24724

Jerry, KE7ER
?

On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 12:24 pm, Michael Shreeve wrote:
And first of all, this uBITX works perfectly. It sounds great. Its very sensitive and has good tone quality. Literature says this :?"To invert the sideband between USB and LSB, the second oscillator is switched between 33 MHz and 57 MHz. " . If usb matches with 33 and lsb matches with 57 which it does at the site here : (clearly on the diagram where it clearly says 33 usb, 57 lsb, then its time to do the math ? So I checked very clearly the radio in the next video. Block diagram is here. Ashhar says we should do the math. Now, if I can figure out how to do that math, its another video lol.




--
Michael Shreeve N6GRG


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

Jeffrey Peters
 

Greetings Joel,

Excellent job! Very Well Done.? I also would like to know more about how you made your microphone.

73, Jeff K9JP

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 11:57 AM, Joel Caulkins <caulktel@...> wrote:
Just finished my uBITX this morning, works great and will live it's life beside my bed on the night stand.

Joel
N6ALT




--
Not all of me will die - - - The good I do will live forever.? <><


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

ae1ct1998
 

Where did you get the mic from


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018, 11:58 Joel Caulkins <caulktel@...> wrote:
Just finished my uBITX this morning, works great and will live it's life beside my bed on the night stand.

Joel
N6ALT


Re: Officially done with my uBITX!

 

Wow, looks great. Well done ??


Officially done with my uBITX!

 

Just finished my uBITX this morning, works great and will live it's life beside my bed on the night stand.

Joel
N6ALT


Re: Complaint Department

Vince Vielhaber
 

And the speaker jack is STILL wired up to both the tip and ring. As has been pointed out, a mono plug plugged into it shorts the audio to ground.

Vince.

On 03/14/2018 11:15 AM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote:
As you see fit.
Your project.
However,

Would be nice to somehow address errors in the "official" instructions
in a timely way.
Otherwise it's up to the forum here to sort that stuff out.
Again and again and again.

For example, the wireup page still has this:
The 1N4007 has to be installed with reverse polarity. Its purpose is
to conduct
if you have supplied reverse voltage to the radio and burn itself out
instead of the radio.

As has been pointed out here several times, that section of the wireup
is incorrect.
When the diode blows, the next thing to go is the radio.
It might work if you have a big schottky diode and a fuse at the supply
so the fuse can blow first, but no mention is made of a fuse.
A faulty reverse protection scheme is worse than none at all, as some
people will assume it works.

And where does something like the WX TDA2822 get sorted out?
That should probably be in the wireup page, new information being put up
as it becomes available.

I'd prefer to see a link to a specific curated webpage of errata at the
top of the hfsignals wireup page,
not just a website homepage, with appropriate disclaimers.
Either that, or somebody at hfsignals has to be monitoring the forum
closely and editing the information
in a timely manner.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:52 pm, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

On thr hfsigs site, or anything else that I endorse or recommend, I
never do that without having tried it myself. That is the
unfortunate part of pursuing experimental methods. It is also good
in that whatever mods are on hf, if any, they are robust.
There is the bitxhacks blog, the ubitx.net <> for
the rest.
I am going to put those links with the caveats on the ubitx page. Is
that a good option?
This reminds me of a software piece that knith once wrote about : be
careful with the abive code, i have only proved it to be correct, i
havent tried it.
- f

--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Digital BFO Mod: Terrible Audio! #bitx40help

 

Allard's v2 firmware is a good choice, this has all been done.
Though the understanding you get from trying to do it yourself is worth the time.?

The series resonant frequency of the crystals is a few khz lower than parallel resonance:
? ??/g/BITX20/message/25360

You don't describe how the audio is terrible.?
If when tuned for natural sounding speech, you get audio that has lots of bass or lots of treble,?
then it's likely you don't have the BFO frequency set correctly.
It is the distance of the BFO from the crystal filter passband that determines what audio frequencies are present.


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 01:54 am, Ryan Flowers wrote:
The 12mhz crystals not 12mhz but rather 11,984,800 and currently I have my sidebands at 11994420 for USB and 11996450 for LSB.


Re: Complaint Department

 

As you see fit.??
Your project.
However,

Would be nice to somehow address errors in the "official" instructions in a timely way.
Otherwise it's up to the forum here to sort that stuff out.
Again and again and again.?

For example, the wireup page still has this:
? The 1N4007 has to be installed with reverse polarity. Its purpose is to conduct
? if you have supplied reverse voltage to the radio and burn itself out instead of the radio.

As has been pointed out here several times, that section of the wireup is incorrect.
When the diode blows, the next thing to go is the radio.
It might work if you have a big schottky diode and a fuse at the supply so the fuse can blow first, but no mention is made of a fuse.
A faulty reverse protection scheme is worse than none at all, as some people will assume it works.

And where does something like the WX TDA2822 get sorted out?
That should probably be in the wireup page, new information being put up
as it becomes available.

I'd prefer to see a link to a specific curated webpage of errata at the top of the hfsignals wireup page,
not just a website homepage, with appropriate disclaimers.?
Either that, or somebody at hfsignals has to be monitoring the forum closely and editing the information
in a timely manner.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 10:52 pm, Ashhar Farhan wrote:
On thr hfsigs site, or anything else that I endorse or recommend, I never do that without having tried it myself. That is the unfortunate part of pursuing experimental methods. It is also good in that whatever mods are on hf, if any, they are robust.
There is the bitxhacks blog, the for the rest.?
I am going to put those links with the caveats on the ubitx page. Is that a good option?
This reminds me of a software piece that knith once wrote about : be careful with the abive code, i have only proved it to be correct, i havent tried it.
- f


Re: Carl's case

 

Thank you Tom


Re: #uBITX Firmware CEC Version Added WSPR function, I am looking for a beta tester. #ubitx

 

Gerald

Thank you for testing wspr.
I checked your WSPR signal and checked that the frequency was relatively stable.

I will do a little more verification and release version 1.06 with WSPR functionality.
You do not have to update to version 1.06 if you do not have a lot of trouble using the firmware.

Thanks again for testing WSPR.
It was a great help to me.

Ian KD8CEC

2018-03-14 17:33 GMT+09:00 ge_clipboard <clipboard@...>:


Hello Ian

Made some test transmissions with the new version and, as you can see on , the signals are heard all around from the uBitx on a 42m vertical delta loop. All settings left as per factory, no corrections anywhere.

Is it not possible to adjust the soundlevel by the software to control the output?

Many thanks and 73, Gerald - HB9CEY





--
Best 73
KD8CEC / Ph.D ian lee
kd8cec@...
(my blog)


Re: uBITX Software error messages #ubitx-help

 

Now it works !

Thanks for all help.

SM6ERS/Ingvar


Re: Digital BFO Mod: Terrible Audio! #bitx40help

 

Hi Ryan,

"Switch sidebands without inverting the VFO to 19mhz"
Raduino v2 for BitX40 already has exactly this functionality, perhaps you
could use this:



73 Allard PE1NWL

On Wed, March 14, 2018 09:54, Ryan Flowers wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I've been working on my own digital VFO/BFO for my BITX40. The goal:
Switch sidebands without inverting the VFO to 19mhz for 40M and 26mhz for
20M. I've got it working, mostly, but I'm having one heck of a time with
audio quality. The 12mhz crystals not 12mhz but rather 11,984,800 and
currently I have my sidebands at 11994420 for USB and 11996450 for LSB.
These are 2030 and 4060hz away from the crystal frequency, and I am having
a hard time visualizing how that works. But at any rate, these are the
what I came up with mostly through trial and error.??

I'm currently using a modified version of the uBITX sketch. I've added the
offset frequency (11984800, named vfoOffset) and lsbCarrier and am using
the following to do my tuning:

if (isUSB){ si5351bx_setfreq(0, vfoOffset + frequency);
si5351bx_setfreq(1, usbCarrier); } else{ si5351bx_setfreq(0, vfoOffset +
frequency); si5351bx_setfreq(1, lsbCarrier); } I've also added menu items
for adjusting the USB/LSB and Offset easily, and using these I adjusted
for best inbound audio and ended up with the aforementioned values. When I
tune the radio to 7074mhz and select USB, I'm not getting *any* decodes on
FT8- but it works on LSB... What on earth? The other thing is that audio
output (as tested by transmitting into a dummy load and listening on my
Kenwood) is just terribly choppy and unintelligible. I've tried varying
the signal output strength of the si5351 clocks from 2ma to 8ma, no
difference. It sounds terribly over-modulated.

I have gotten in over my head, but I'm determined. Can somebody help me
understand this so I can not just complete this project but get a better
understanding???Thanks so much.

--??
Ryan Flowers - W7RLF
MiscDotGeek.com ( )
Multi Band BITX40 ( )
The BITX40 FAQ ( )


Digital BFO Mod: Terrible Audio! #bitx40help

 

Hello Everyone,

I've been working on my own digital VFO/BFO for my BITX40. The goal: Switch sidebands without inverting the VFO to 19mhz for 40M and 26mhz for 20M. I've got it working, mostly, but I'm having one heck of a time with audio quality. The 12mhz crystals not 12mhz but rather 11,984,800 and currently I have my sidebands at 11994420 for USB and 11996450 for LSB. These are 2030 and 4060hz away from the crystal frequency, and I am having a hard time visualizing how that works. But at any rate, these are the what I came up with mostly through trial and error.?

I'm currently using a modified version of the uBITX sketch. I've added the offset frequency (11984800, named vfoOffset) and lsbCarrier and am using the following to do my tuning:

  if (isUSB){
    si5351bx_setfreq(0, vfoOffset + frequency);
    si5351bx_setfreq(1, usbCarrier);
  }
  else{
    si5351bx_setfreq(0, vfoOffset + frequency);
    si5351bx_setfreq(1, lsbCarrier);

  }
I've also added menu items for adjusting the USB/LSB and Offset easily, and using these I adjusted for best inbound audio and ended up with the aforementioned values. When I tune the radio to 7074mhz and select USB, I'm not getting *any* decodes on FT8- but it works on LSB... What on earth? The other thing is that audio output (as tested by transmitting into a dummy load and listening on my Kenwood) is just terribly choppy and unintelligible. I've tried varying the signal output strength of the si5351 clocks from 2ma to 8ma, no difference. It sounds terribly over-modulated.

I have gotten in over my head, but I'm determined. Can somebody help me understand this so I can not just complete this project but get a better understanding??Thanks so much.

--?
Ryan Flowers - W7RLF



#ubitx Firmware KD8CEC - IF-Shift etc. #ubitx

 

Hello All

Many thanks for all the interesting answers to my questions at the beginning of this topic! Having thought of starting such a lengthy conversation. One can learn a lot, but I must admit, some are also irritating to me what I should/can do, to set the settings correct ;-). So for today, I‘m leaving the settings as per factory and take my time to sort all the answers.

73, Gerald - HB9CEY