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Re: uBitX Working but bad audio
Umm, yes.
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If you wire the phone jack such that the audio out is going to both tip and ring, then plug in a mono plug with just tip (and sleeve at ground), then the audio out gets shorted to ground, and you get no sound at all. I guess headphones with stereo plug would sound "better" than no sound at all. Depending on individual preferences. My significant other generally prefers the latter when it comes to ham gear. Jerry On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 09:40 am, <jrromes1@...> wrote: The message # for the problem with using a mono plug for the speaker is #42601 |
Re: The issues of the TDA2822
Farhan Possibly use an op-amp for the audio pre-amp and follow it with an NPN-PNP pair.? Feedback from the NPN-PNP cathodes to input of the op-amp (with resistive divider to set gain) and you have a composite replacement for integrated audio amplifiers. This could be an interesting small circuit board for use in many projects, or even as a stand-alone audio amp for the workbench. Arv _._ On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Ashhar Farhan <farhanbox@...> wrote:
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Re: Micro BitX No Audio TDA2822?
Ron N4RT Scroll to the bottom for the full schematic. Arv? K7HKL _._ On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 8:32 AM, Ron Thomas <n4rt@...> wrote:
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Re: uBitX Working but bad audio
What's this reference?
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My guess is that they are telling you that in the bridge configuration of the TDA2822M where both halves are used out of phase, you must use a stereo jack to external speaker. Take a look at the TDA2822M datasheet and all should be clear, neither wire to the speaker can be grounded when in bridge configuration. However, the uBitx uses only one channel of the part, so it's ok if one of the speaker wires is grounded. I can believe that switching to $200 Bose headphones improved the sound. They have some really nice headphones. Jerry, KE7ER On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 09:36 am, <jrromes1@...> wrote: Hi David, |
Re: TDA2822 experiments and mods
ST makes the 78L** parts in a SOT-89 package.
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Same package as U2, the 78L05 for the IRF510 gate bias. TI and Fairchild LM78L** parts only come in the SOIC-8 and TO-90 (also some dinky BGA that we don't want to talk about). Digikey and Mouser don't sell ST's SOT-89, so a bit harder to obtain. The SOIC-8 should do fine, solder the ground pins to the ground plane for heat transfer. The TO92 could work, though likely heat up faster cuz the heat has nowhere to go. Yes, I'd expect the max available current from a 78L09 to limit maximum audio level. Though apparently enough audio for Raj, and limiting that current does protect the 2822. If it gets to be too much current for the 78L09, it will shut down till it cools off. Just what we want, if it's enough audio power for your situation. If you want more power and less protection, use the 1 Amp TO220 LM7809 (or 08 or 06 or 05) face down, flat on the board. ST sells the 1 Amp L78** in the Dpak/TO252 package, about the same as the TO220. TI sells the 500ma? LM78M** in the Dpak/TO252 package, might be an ideal solution for moderate levels of current. Any of the above could be made to work, any regulator from 5 to 9 volts. Assuming you don't have one of the clones made from factory floor sweepings that smokes at 7v. I tried following the power traces around, I believe cutting the trace Raj shows in his picture only affects the TDA2822.? However, it's possible some other section of the uBitx is also getting voltage reduced, this should be checked for. Jerry, KE7ER On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 08:24 am, Tim Gorman wrote: I like this solution. |
Re: uBitX Working but bad audio
On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 04:52 pm, N8DAH wrote:
TDA2822Hi David, I have the TDA2822M in mine.? I found a reference where they indicated that you must use a stereo plug for an external speaker.? I was using a Kenwood SP23 thinking quality but found it had a mono plug on it which is advertised as a no no.? I switched to Bose headphones and my audio cleared considerably.? I'm thinking that was possibly a major cause of some of my problem.? Stay tuned!! 73, John WW3JR |
Re: TDA2822 Replacement
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Re: The issues of the TDA2822
Vince Vielhaber
How about the wiper of the volume pot?
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Vince. On 03/07/2018 12:07 PM, Paul Smith wrote:
For my part I'd be happy with the provision of an audio take-off --
Michigan VHF Corp. |
Re: The issues of the TDA2822
Maybe Claude is your Santa: On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 05:12 am, Raj vu2zap wrote:
What I have been asking Santa aka Farhan is for a similar circuit that just plugs in to the existing 8 pins. |
Re: Modifying Bitx40 BPF band pass filter
Thanks Satish, John and Arv. I did not have the BPF connected at the time of experimenting. But it would probably lower the signal even more. So it's best to get a strong signal before I attempt modifying the BPF. Satish makes a very good point, there is a 0.2 V loss in the 1N4841 diodes of course. Why did I not think of that myself? I did pass the exam but it's been a while. ;) I will try John's suggestion and crank up the signal a bit to around 0.6Vp-p. Will post here how it turned out. Arv, I use small pieces of (leftover) copper clad board, about 2.5 x 4 cm in size, around 1 by 2 inch per module and simply solder the components on dead bug style. I cut some small squares and glue them on as solder-islands where needed. The modular approach is great because you can test them individually. When I get to the final I will need a slightly bigger board and when everything is finished I will put all small prints on a larger board. Maybe put some 12V, TX and RX rails on it and I will call it the motherboard as well. |
Re: Not receiving
#ubitx
Ok my fault.? I assumed that since band select stopped at 2000 khz it didn't go lower.? Tuned in 1530 and it comes in with static but intelligible.
-- Jason Schlager KM6AUS |
Re: ubitx order
Graham,
A current limiter on the PA is not a good idea. That would be the same as overdriving the PA and causing "flat-topping". That causes all kinds of spurious responses in your transmitted signal. You would be much better off just fusing it so an over-current condition is stopped and will notify you when it happens. My opinion, YMMV. tim ab0wr On Tue, 06 Mar 2018 15:21:36 -0800 "Graham W" <gram.warrington@...> wrote: Well... my UbitX came Mar 5/18.. Was ordered Dec 20/17.. Serial # is |
Re: Micro BitX No Audio TDA2822?
Does the 2073D work as well or better than the TDA2822? thanks, Paul K0ZYV From: N8DAH <Dherron@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, March 7, 2018 9:45 AM Subject: Re: [BITX20] Micro BitX No Audio TDA2822? The Ubitxv3.pdf has it
If you have no sound of any kind and the U1 chip has TDA2822 WX on it then its a safe bet the chip is blown. You have a few options for drops ins such as 2073D which is what I used to replace my blown TDA2822
-- David ?N8DAH
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Re: TDA2822 experiments and mods
I like this solution.
I can't quite see what is printed on your unit but it seems to be an SOT-89 type package. I can't find any 7809 units in that configuration. I can find them in the D2pak or the to252-3 style. I assume either of those would work as well? You say you used a 70L09 but aren't those only rated to about 100ma? That wouldn't seem to be high enough to handle heavy loads from the 2822. tim ab0wr On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 18:01:05 +0530 "Raj vu2zap" <rajendrakumargg@...> wrote: Solution 3: 78L09. the center lead looks soldered but it is floating |
Re: TDA2822 experiments and mods
There's more than one failure mode.
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The bad clones like the DX can't tolerate 12v. A good part might eventually go if you exceed the power dissipation rating by running it at high volume with a 12v supply into a low impedance load. But yes, voltage spikes are worth checking for, and fixing if they exist. Would be a problem with the power supply, not the uBitx. A 12v low dropout regulator for the supply into the main uBitx board (but not the PA-PWR for the finals) would fix this. Jerry, KE7ER On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 07:11 am, Vince Vielhaber wrote: I don't think we're going to find a heat issue. It's happened to people just turning the rig on which leads me to believe there's a spike. The chip is already running on the edge, a small spike could certainly send it over the cliff. |
Re: Shipping Day uBit "Better Raduino"
开云体育Well it is time to get off the Pot and ship the first of the new Ubit RaduinoUMax. Working like a beaver here since the PCBs arrived Friday! The MAX is for the 16 Added I/O pins on the end of the PCB.?? It makes the PCB a little longer, but still fits into uBit Radio PCB. I2C control gives you 16 more 5V digital In or Outs. Uses Adafruits Library for simple control of them.? 3 I2C address jumpers to make sure you can use other I2C items. 73's Mike, WA6ISP ? -- Mike Hagen, WA6ISP 10917 Bryant Street Yucaipa, Ca. 92399 (909) 918-0058 PayPal ID "MotDog@..." Mike@... |
Re: Micro BitX No Audio TDA2822?
Ron,
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The audio is available from the yellow and green ground. You could connect that to an ampli speaker and confirm. If that is working then replace the amp U1. Raj At 07-03-18, you wrote:
Ok, I am new to this group and have just assembled my micro bitx. I sent an earlier message to the group explaining that I have no audio. |