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Re: U1 fried
NJM2073D seems to be a replacement for TDA2822, price is about one dollar:
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73 Allard PE1NWL On Thu, March 1, 2018 01:45, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io wrote:
Ah, the TDA82822D part in the SOIC8 package is a good find. |
Re: Results of MAX9814 in uBitx
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John
Thanks Tim.
One additional benefit of the MAX9814 solution is the reduction in TX pops both when switching in and out of Tx mode. How much reduction is dependant on the sensitivity. At 30% input volume it's total, at 7-10% it's partial but enough in my opinion. All the best, 73, John |
Re: U1 fried
Ah, the TDA82822D part in the SOIC8 package is a good find.
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Feeling much better now! Digikey has it for a bit over a dollar (Mouser says a minimum buy of 2000). Maybe hfsignals will move to the more easily gotten SMD part if they ever roll the board. Though I'm pretty sure I could solder the SMD into place with just some short wires, not bothering with the adapter board. > The chip is rated to work with a 4¦¸ load so a 4¦¸ resistor should do. I doubt the chip would blow so fast that FB fuse wouldn¡¯t protect it. Yes, I think a 4 ohm resistor would probably do, I was getting rather cautious when I saw how hard the M part was to obtain. I'm suspicious that with a 12v supply it is close to the edge, they seem to blow with little provocation. Most of the datasheet seems to assume a max of 9v. The fact that it works down to 1.8v reinforces this notion. The fuse might protect it, depends on the failure mode. The fuse costs about as much as the TDA2822D. Jerry On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 04:02 pm, Clark Martin wrote:
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Re: UBitx no audio! Could use some advise
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOk! So I tried what was suggested and here is what I found.?R253 was bad and ?I was able to replace but that did not fix.? I suspect a blown TDA2822M. I have one on order, so now I wait until it arrives and I swap it out. ?If there are still issues I will continue to work the problem and post if I get stuck again. Thanks Jerry! -Brett Deschene KN4AQC? On Feb 28, 2018, at 10:59 AM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote:
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Re: U1 fried
The chip is rated to work with a 4¦¸ load so a 4¦¸ resistor should do. I doubt the chip would blow so fast that FB fuse wouldn¡¯t protect it.
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Clark Martin KK6ISP On Feb 28, 2018, at 4:00 PM, Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...> wrote: |
Re: U1 fried
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe TDA2822D in effect replaces the ¡°M¡± version. ?It appears the same except it¡¯s an SMD part. ?You can get SMD to through hole adapter boards that would let you use one with the ?BitX. ?It would likely be cheaper than buying the ¡°M¡± version. An example of the adapter board: And plug headers to plug them into an IC socket (or solder in). Clark Martin KK6ISP
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Re: U1 fried
Better be a pretty darn fast fuse.
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I'll go with an 8 ohm 1/2 watt series resistor to limit current. At least till I find a good source for TDA2822M chips. I'm fairly certain that resistor will offer sufficient protection. Jerry On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 03:51 pm, Clark Martin wrote:
The TDA2822M data sheet lists an absolute maximum one amp output output current. ?Since this chip is apparently prone to blowing out on short circuit?I would add a .5A fast blow fuse in the speaker line, between the PCB and the headphone jack. ?It doesn¡¯t need a fuse holder, it could be soldered in (using a fuse with pigtail leads). ?It would still be easier and cheaper to replace than the amp IC. |
Re: U1 fried
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýThe TDA2822M data sheet lists an absolute maximum one amp output output current. ?Since this chip is apparently prone to blowing out on short circuit?I would add a .5A fast blow fuse in the speaker line, between the PCB and the headphone jack. ?It doesn¡¯t need a fuse holder, it could be soldered in (using a fuse with pigtail leads). ?It would still be easier and cheaper to replace than the amp IC.I¡¯ll likely add this mod to my ?Bitx. ?I don¡¯t intend to short it out but then almost no one does. Clark Martin KK6ISP
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Re: ubitx pcb size
On Thu, 1 Mar 2018 at 11:55 AM, Joe Parisella <joe.parisella@...> wrote:
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Re: troubleshooting no TX SSB
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Don't know when I get to it.. but I will follow your lead.
I already ordered some germanium diodes to build a RF probe. To be continued.. John |
Re: troubleshooting no TX SSB
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Yes, if you can transmit CW then it has to be somewhere between Q6 and Q22,
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since CW is transmittted by unbalancing the modulator immediately following Q22. If the receiver works, then the three mixers and local oscillator are ok. So if you still have trouble transmitting SSB, then it's Q6 or one of the bidi amps on the TX side, and the bidi amps seldom give us trouble. You could try unbalancing the modulator by injecting 5vdc through a series 4.7k resistor at T7 pin 3 (and pin 5).? This is how we generated CW on the Bitx40:?? ? ?? If that does transmit CW, then it has to be around Q6. Your 10mhz scope may just barely see something in the 12mhz IF section through Q42,? and probably nothing at all in the 45mhz IF section at Q20,21,22. If you wind up debugging those sections, you may need to build a diode RF probe or something similar. Jerry On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 02:50 pm, John wrote: But as CW seemed to work the first day I thought I had to look somewhere in the modulating circuitry. Have the schematics |
Re: troubleshooting no TX SSB
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I did have power on CW, at least the first day before so smoked U1 with a stereo Sony noise canceling headset.
I didn't have my straight key yet bit i just shorted a cord that i had plugged in the key jack. Had some trouble getting the scope to sync but the signal on the collector of Q6 was much stronger than the Mic input. Scope has 10MHz bandwidth so it should work on the lower bands. Most likely the TDA will arrive saturday than i can start from scratch again. Will measure the voltages as you mentioned. But as CW seemed to work the first day I thought I had to look somewhere in the modulating circuitry. Have the schematics printed but in my professional career I worked more with higher voltages. Am not afraid to try but just need some guidance as I am fairly new to radio electronics. John |
Re: U1 fried
So where did you get your spare TDA2822M's?
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The TDA2822M is $7 for two on ebay, quite expensive for what it is. Mainline distributors like Mouser and Digikey say it's discontinued. ST no longer makes it, sources may be drying up. My uBitx has a part on it marked "TDA2822M" but no ST logo, not sure who makes it. Banggood has this amp, photos show it to be stuffed with a UTC2822H clone, but I'm having no luck finding a source for that chip either. ?? Someday we might need to find a replacement. Maybe a little PC board with 8 header pins. Stuff it with a bunch of mmbt3904's if nothing else. Curious that the stereo headset fried the TDA2822M. Perhaps it presented too low an impedance when first plugged in for some reason?? Not at all clear from the datasheet that the TDA2822M will survive a 4 ohm speaker when powered from a 12v+ supply. Jerry, KE7ER On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 02:22 pm, John wrote:
I fried mine when I plugged in a stereo sony noise canceling headset. |
Re: Another shipping Notification Update
ordered my Ubitx Dec. 27, 2017 Rcv'd yesterday Feb.27, 2018. had to be here and sign for it re DHL 73 WA9DOH On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 7:13 AM, Daniel Conklin <danconklin2@...> wrote: I ordered mine on the 29th of December 2017, and I haven't gotten notice of shipping yet. |
Re: U1 fried
I fried mine when I plugged in a stereo sony noise canceling headset.
So it does not only happen with mono plugs. Hopefully the spare TDAs with sockets will arrive soon so Incan start troubleshooting my no power problem. To be on the safe side and avoid another wait I also ordered some IRFs ;) John |
Re: ubitx standoffs
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On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 01:38 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:
ACE Hardware store has an amazingI was just there last Saturday to get some M3 screws.? I didn't even think to look for knobs!? I'll pay more attention next time, and maybe have some coffee before I go. |
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