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Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, July 30, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

Lots of QSB and QRM, but worked Tom VE3THR and Paul KC8WBK. Heard N2CQR, KC1FSZ and KI4PSR plus a couple of others.
Conditions didn't start to improve until about 7:30 or 8pm.
AL - VE3RRD


UK Import Duty

 

Hi All (in the UK)

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I recently received my BitX40 but was a bit surprised to be charged VAT+DHL fee (of a similar amount) for handling the VAT. These added 40% to the total cost (including the extra shipping charge). I just wanted to check that others had the same charges applied?

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73, Graham M6LSO


Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, July 30, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

Worked W4OBY (he was not on a BITX, but he HAS one in the works). ? Also worked KN4EAR and? KC8WBK. ?? Also talked to KI4PSR but he was not on his BITX (but he has 4!). ? 73? Bill N2CQR ?


On Sunday, July 30, 2017 8:06 PM, KC8WBK via Groups.Io <cruisenewsnet@...> wrote:


Conditions are tough, they may improve later in the evening.



Re: W8TEE Software Release 1.05

John P
 

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 07:37 pm, Jack Purdum wrote:

Please let me know if you find any bugs.
Didn't find any bugs! As a matter of fact, I'm not sure where to find the?software!
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Re: Lovely LM386?

 

For audio less than 1uF use mylar caps. They're good for bypassing DC for audio stages too, but I'd use ceramics for bypassing RF stages where microphonics and such things as self-inductance are inconsequential.


Re: Lovely LM386?

 

Ceramic capacitors turn out microphonic. Maybe the input or in the preamp stage coupling stage.
As you say with volume turned up fully means that it is coming from preamp stage or earlier.

Raj

At 30-07-2017, you wrote:
I know it is not perfect. But the LM386 seems noisy and micro phonic.
It might even be oscillating some at full volume.

I can turn it all the way up and smack the LM386 with the handle of a small screwdriver and hear the smack in the speaker.

I may have something going on ahead of the audio to cause this? I still have the gain capacitor across the LM386 (stock bitx config).

Mike, WA6ISP


Re: I7SWX PTT Pop Mute

 

Lots of hits on the web for "LM386 pin 7 mute". ?Most pull pin 7 low, though pulling high works too. ?Allard's now routing PTT through the Raduino and driving a transistor to turn on the relays. ?So we could have a second 2n3904 with base and emitter in parallel with Allards 2n3904 transistor, ?the collector of this new 2n3904 pulls down on LM386 pin 7. ?Add a cap from pin 7 to ground, discharges almost instantly but would take a few miliseconds to charge back up through the LM386's internal 15k resistor?when PTT is released, long enough to?keep the LM386 quiet till after this exit noise is gone. ?So a 2n3904 plus a cap replaces Gian's 2n3906+resistors+diode plus Joe's relay, assuming you are going to implement Allard's "TX-RX Line Wiring" mod anyway. ?Beware, I have not tried this.

Pin 7 is meant to be bypassed to ground through an optional 10uF cap, preventing power supply noise from disturbing the diff-amp input.. ?But the Bitx40 has some serious external 12v filtering going into the LM386, so no large cap on pin 7 is probably fine.

Not being an analog kind of guy, fully figuring out the LM386 from the datasheet's internal schematic is quite the puzzle. ?I think one key is to assume the IN- pin is grounded (as it is in the Bitx40), so the collector of the NPN at the top of that side of the diff-amp is always two Vbe above ground, or about 1.2v. ?The current mirror below the diff amp draws an equal amount of current from the two sides of the diff amp, any excess current on the right side goes off to drive the output stage. ? This guy: ?? says the gain of the LM386 is equal to ?2*Z(1-5)/(150+Z(1-8)), ?where Z(1-5) is the impedance between pin 1 and pin 5 (typically just the 15k internal resistor) and Z(1-8) is the impedance between 1 and 8 (typically just the 1.35k internal resistor, unless you have an external cap across those pins to increase the gain as the Bitx40 does). ? The 150 comes from the internal resistor between pin 8 and the top of the left side of the diff-amp, the factor of two comes in because of the diff-amp. ?That all sort of makes sense, though I'm not convinced my understanding is complete. ?When muting, I assume bringing pin 7 to gnd or vcc upsets the diff-amp to where it's no longer functioning as a diff amp. ?Could be that going in and out of mute like this creates its own pops, I'll have to try driving pin 7 both high and low, see if either works better.

This guy does a dc analysis without just too much hand waving. ?
He's trying to get the LM386 behave like an op-amp, no internal feedback, so he can add an output stage to the LM386 and have the feedback loop go around everything. ? He says that at 125mw driving headphones, the LM386 is clean enough. ?Ask for more power from it to drive a speaker, and it distorts badly. ?The uBitx has moved to a better amp.

Here's an interesting webpage on cheap and simple and easy to understand alternatives to the LM386. ?He gives up on the LM386, drives an output stage with an op-amp with good results, written long before the above article: ? ?

I like how those two articles show the process of figuring these things out. ?Both seem quite competent, and they're not afraid to describe stuff they try that didn't quite work. ?Even the simplest circuits can keep a good engineer scratching his head for days.

Kind of amazing the LM386 is still such a popular chip at a hoary 34 years of age. ?Hobbyist interest on the web seems equally divided between qrp rigs and guitar amps. ?In 20 years the kids will be messing with their DSP algorithms to get a guitar amp that sounds grungy like those badly overloaded LM386's, having no clue how an overloaded vacuum tube amp would sound.?

Jerry, KE7ER?


On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 05:45 pm, Joe wrote:
I also installed the LM386 PIN 7 mod and found it works very well, ?the best noise ?reduction so far.
I still found the TX exit noise a bit louder ,so I added a relay to open the speaker, this further reduced the noise when exiting Tx.
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W8TEE Software Release 1.05

Jack Purdum
 

All:

This release fixes a bunch of bugs, presents a smoother frequency tuning, and more even scrolling through the menu options. The code requires an mcufriend TFT display (2.4" to 3.95" should work) and a Mega 25760 Arduino board as it uses external interrupts not available on the Nano or Uno. (If you're not using any other interrupts, you could move my interrupts to INT0 and INT1.)

Please let me know if you find any bugs.

Jack, W8TEE


Re: I7SWX PTT Pop Mute

 

I used a 5v arduino relay module. with 1 normal open ?and ?1 normal closed contact.
I used the normally closed contacts so there is audio in rx mode.
When tx occurs the contacts open.
My power source for the relay activation comes from a tx led mod.


The best is a reed relay?

Joe
VE1BWV?

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:05 PM, KC8WBK via Groups.Io <cruisenewsnet@...> wrote:
What type of relay works best for this?



Re: I7SWX PTT Pop Mute

 

What type of relay works best for this?


Re: On the Air! Finally!

Alan Jones
 

Eric,
Congrats on building up your BITX40 !
I really like the creative way you used pcb's from other circuits as your enclosure.
The front of your rig really looks cool!

73,
Al, N8WQ
n8wq.com

On Sun, 30 Jul 2017 12:40:08 -0400, Eric Torraca <eric.torraca@...> wrote:

Good afternoon all.

I've finally got a Bitx40 on the air! Another local ham had acquired a Raduino version and decided he had too many projects to get it going so he sold it to me for just under cost. I swapped it out with the original version Bitx40 in the case that I'd already made and hooked it up as directed. It appears to be working exactly as designed. Phew! It's been a long time getting something on the air! Attached are a couple of photos of the completed unit. The only thing I'm not keen on is the travel of the pot before it switches to 100 kHz steps. Has anyone had any success with mods that folks have done to give more travel? I tried a 1meg pot but it didn't seem to make much difference. Aside from that, I'm thrilled to have it on the air.

I'll keep working on the original non-radiuno version, but at least it's not keeping me from getting contacts. I made a couple yesterday immediately after finishing the build.?

All the best!

73 de KB1VNA
Eric


Re: Help with rotary encoder code, please, anyone?

Jack Purdum
 

That code is fairly common and I used it in my first encoder article in QRP Quarterly, which I have attached for those who might be interested:


PCICR |= (1 << PCIE2); // Pin Change Interrupt Enable 2 to set
// Pin Change Interrupt Control Register
PCMSK2 |= (1 << PCINT18) | (1 << PCINT19); // Use pins 2 and 3 for
// the control mask
sei(); // Set interrupts flag

Direct port manipulation is slightly more efficient than using AttachInterrupt(), but the function is merely a wrapper function that hides the bit masking the code above does. The other advantage of the function over bit masking is that you don't have to worry about setting the mask registers yourself. All you have to do is get the pin number correct. The wrapper code figures out the proper interrupt vector.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Michael Hagen <motdog@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help with rotary encoder code, please, anyone?

It came from an example.? It worked immediately so I left it?
It deals with the registers directly.
So, sorry I can't answer your question, and it is a good one!
I guess we could find the code in AttachInterrupt in the library to see what it does?
I added #defines and made version 1.09 into a conditional assembly file.?? That was what I was trying to explain, not
to have a fully working version.
I think any version could be now done easily.? I have 4 line LCDs, but not in my nice radio case.
I think that would be the answer so all the new features that use line 2 would not get written over by the Step display.
Or, I will have to share line 2 with the step display.? It would be easier by just adding lines.
Mike
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On 7/30/2017 3:51 PM, Norberto Modanesi wrote:
Hi Don:
Why do you use PCICR |= (1 << PCIE2);//Interrupt setup ?to enable interrupt insted of AttachInterrupt?
73 - LU5DNM
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Norberto Modanesi
San Nicolás

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Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, July 30, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

John P
 

Called CQ from 7 EDT until 7:15. Nothing heard!
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John - WA2FZW


Re: I7SWX PTT Pop Mute

 

I have spent some time txing with the mod.? I get a buzz or rumble in my headphones that is from my voice.??

Audio reports are good.

Sometimes? frequency bumps down a tenth of a kHz or two when I key down, and bumps up when I key up.

I will try to reroute wires to limit rf into the audio amp.


Re: On the Air! Finally!

 

John, I love your mic. Too bad you're not "Adam" or you could call it your "Invisible Hand Mic."?

Dave, The mic is built around a piece of single sided copper clad pc board cut to fit in the pvc pipe. I scraped away strips to make the traces and soldered in the cap and the element that comes with the kit. I had a larger momentary switch that I liked better than the one from the kit so I used that. I feels good in the hand but I haven't had enough feedback on air yet to know how it really sounds. It seems to get the job done though. I haven't put in any kind of screen yet, but I plan to. It's very close to Jack's design but I had originally made it a couple years back for a Hendricks Bitx 20a that's towards the back of the project backlog.?

Keith, you're right, it's 10kHz, and thanks for the keyword, I didn't know it was referred to as galloping.?

Jerry, thanks for the tip!

Vince, I don't remember what it came out of. I wanted the case to be as "up-cycled" as possible so I used a bunch of random circuit boards I had laying around from various parts scavenging forays. It was probably from something non-functional that someone gave me at some point. Maybe a Sony TV? I found some boards that were roughly the right size and shape and depopulated them with a heat gun. Then I cut them down to the right size and used them for the top, front, and rear panels. The other sides are bent sheet metal from a big-box hardware store. I'm pretty pleased with the way the case came out!

73 de KB1VNA
Eric


Re: I7SWX PTT Pop Mute

 

I also installed the LM386 PIN 7 mod and found it works very well, ?the best noise ?reduction so far.
I still found the TX exit noise a bit louder ,so I added a relay to open the speaker, this further reduced the noise when exiting Tx.


Joe
VE1BWV

On Sun, Jul 30, 2017 at 11:22 AM, KC8WBK via Groups.Io <cruisenewsnet@...> wrote:
I checked my work and found a wrong connection on my part.? I fixed the connection and the circuit now works as described, reducing the PTT pop and noise on initial transmit. ? I did not experience an issue with transmit, it seems to be working normally.? There is a slight click when entering TX and a slightly louder pop when exiting TX, but neither are as loud as the PTT pop before adding this modification. The audio is silent during transmission.

Sorry about the false alarm in #30619. This modification is a worthwhile addition to any BITX40.

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Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, July 30, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

I heard the first part of the KO8? call, but just couldn't get the suffix letter.? We can try again next week.? Thanks for the call.? 73? Bill?


On Sunday, July 30, 2017 7:58 PM, ktschwab via Groups.Io <ktschwab@...> wrote:


I called CQ, no response.? I listened and heard a W4.??Then I heard?N2CQR (VA) in QSO, later he called CQ, I answered and heard him return my call, then nothing.? After about 1/2 hour, I went QRT.? CU next week, 73, de Karl, KO8S



Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, July 30, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

Conditions are tough, they may improve later in the evening.


Re: BITX QSO Night, Sunday, July 30, 7pm Local Time, 7277 kHz in North America, 7177 kHz elsewhere

 

I called CQ, no response.? I listened and heard a W4.??Then I heard?N2CQR (VA) in QSO, later he called CQ, I answered and heard him return my call, then nothing.? After about 1/2 hour, I went QRT.? CU next week, 73, de Karl, KO8S


Re: Help with rotary encoder code, please, anyone?

 

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It came from an example.? It worked immediately so I left it?

It deals with the registers directly.

So, sorry I can't answer your question, and it is a good one!

I guess we could find the code in AttachInterrupt in the library to see what it does?

I added #defines and made version 1.09 into a conditional assembly file.?? That was what I was trying to explain, not

to have a fully working version.

I think any version could be now done easily.? I have 4 line LCDs, but not in my nice radio case.

I think that would be the answer so all the new features that use line 2 would not get written over by the Step display.

Or, I will have to share line 2 with the step display.? It would be easier by just adding lines.

Mike

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On 7/30/2017 3:51 PM, Norberto Modanesi wrote:
Hi Don:
Why do you use PCICR |= (1 << PCIE2);//Interrupt setup ?to enable interrupt insted of AttachInterrupt?
73 - LU5DNM
?
Norberto Modanesi
San Nicolás
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2017 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Help with rotary encoder code, please, anyone?

John,

Rotary encoders by using polling has some difficulties, as you now realize. Interrupts work for me. Attached is a simple example (REserial.ino) that just reads direction to your serial monitor as you were doing. Also attached is a BITX Raduino application that demonstrates a practical sketch (EZ_RE_S_P.ino). Does this help? If you have any questions my email is ND6T@... and I would be glad to try to assist.
73,
Don,ND6T

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