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Re: AGC Boards

Jack Purdum
 

Put two postcard-sized pieces of thin cardboard on either side, tape it, and then try to send it first class. Most of the time, it works.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Vince Vielhaber <vev@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] AGC Boards

Maybe it was just the person at the post office.? I've sent CD inside of
Christmas Cards to Brazil for less than that - 80 cents as I recall.

Vince.



On 07/19/2017 12:42 PM, N8DAH wrote:
> I thought so too, I guess due to the fact it can not bend they made me
> do parcel. I wasn't happy about it, I am going to see if I can find a
> cheaper option since I am not doing this for profit.
>

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? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
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Re: 0-40MHz AD9850 DDS Signal Generator

 

Where do you get the pinout and spacing on the DDS board?
The cheaper one with single connectors.
I bought some but would like the pinout and pin spacing? Schematic?
I want to do a pcb layout so need info.

Thanks & 73s
Mike,WA6ISP


Re: AGC Boards

Vince Vielhaber
 

Maybe it was just the person at the post office. I've sent CD inside of Christmas Cards to Brazil for less than that - 80 cents as I recall.

Vince.

On 07/19/2017 12:42 PM, N8DAH wrote:
I thought so too, I guess due to the fact it can not bend they made me
do parcel. I wasn't happy about it, I am going to see if I can find a
cheaper option since I am not doing this for profit.
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: BitX PS?

Vince Vielhaber
 

All Electronics is also someone I've dealt with for years, but the last time I bought from them was 10 bi-color leds and with shipping it cost me 15.50.

mpja.com also has good deals on wall warts and other things. Shipping is more reasonable too.

Vince.

On 07/19/2017 10:40 AM, Michael Hagen wrote:
I like All Electronics, have been a big customer since the 80s.

Usually $7 shipping or free for $75 order. Sometimes a week shipping
time, sometimes faster?

I have a huge box of wall warts from Thrift Stores. Usually $1?

I have cut off or changed all my wall warts to 2.1 mm Pin +.

Here is a nice PS for $6.95, but don't know about regulation. Some small
one go way up in voltage when

lightly loaded. This look like it might be a real regulated one, given
its size?





Mike, WA6ISP



--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: Starting Over

Vince Vielhaber
 

Take note, the battery losing connection from the electrical system when under full charge - very dirty or loose connection or an intentional disconnect - can dump over 100VDC to your electrical system. At work we call it a Load Dump. In a vehicle certain items have protections against this, others don't. Those that don't only benefit slightly from the protection the others have. NOTE: I work in the EMC dept at FCA. Also I've had an idiot mechanic replace the alternator in my Durango and afterward, while running, he disconnected the battery for some reason. Result: radio fuse blown, satellite tuner fuse blown, instrument cluster blown - dealer had to replace that at their own cost.

Vince.

On 07/19/2017 09:47 AM, Raj vu2zap wrote:
During my service time and experience I considered that all portable /
Automobile rigs like
FT757/747 & all 12V rigs designed to be used in an automobile can handle
up to 15V.
All caps very rated 16v/25v. Occasionall I saw a fried tantalum cap.
An old battery with an over zealous charger circuit can be pushed to 14+
volts.

When first testing BITX40 stay away from a lead acid battery because it
can source a
huge current and any goof will result in massive smoke.

My old analog BITX40 can handle 14+ volts, I am now using 13.8V.

Raj

At 19-07-2017, you wrote:
Imagine the full charged lead acid battery? voltage reaches? to 13.5
or 13.8V.
I suppose that 13.xx is called for from that aspect.

sarma
? vu3zmv

On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 5:27 PM, Michael Babineau
<mbabineau.ve3wmb@... <mailto:mbabineau.ve3wmb@...>> wrote:

Curt :

Glad to hear that you are up and running with the new Bitx40.
My suspicion is that 13.8 v may have been too much for the previous
One. I have seen a few people suggest 13 v max, though I am not
sure where that number comes from. It seems like maybe the display
is fried on the old Raduino. Now that you have a working rig you
might be able to use that to help diagnose the old one (ie you
could try putting the old display on the new raduino).?

Best of luck and above all ... have fun!

Cheers?

Michael VE3WMB
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: AGC Boards

 

I thought so too, I guess due to the fact it can not bend they made me do parcel. I wasn't happy about it, I am going to see if I can find a cheaper option since I am not doing this for profit.


Re: Starting Over

Vince Vielhaber
 

When assembling mine I had a regulator short and deliver closer to 20v to the bitx. No damage done, I've gone thru it with a scope, spectrum analyzer and service monitor. I imagine I coulda just gotten lucky.

Vince.

On 07/19/2017 07:57 AM, Michael Babineau wrote:
Curt :

Glad to hear that you are up and running with the new Bitx40.
My suspicion is that 13.8 v may have been too much for the previous
One. I have seen a few people suggest 13 v max, though I am not sure
where that number comes from. It seems like maybe the display is fried
on the old Raduino. Now that you have a working rig you might be able to
use that to help diagnose the old one (ie you could try putting the old
display on the new raduino).

Best of luck and above all ... have fun!

Cheers

Michael VE3WMB




Sent from my Galaxy Tab A (2016)
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: AGC Boards

Vince Vielhaber
 

How did that little board cost 2.67 to ship? The way you packaged it you shoulda been able to send it for one Forever stamp.

Vince.

On 07/19/2017 02:04 AM, N8DAH wrote:
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 07:30 pm, KC8WBK wrote:

VU2ESE

Yes this is Farhan's setup with board layout from Duwayne. All info is
in the post linked at the top.



I will have more boards in about 1 1/2 weeks or so and I will have to
adjust the price as I shot myself in the foot on the last batch. 1.3$
board cost and 2.67$ shipping. Multiples will only cost 2.67 shipping.

--
Michigan VHF Corp.


A question to Farhan

 

Hello Ashar, I want to know where can I found a fully functional sketch for the HFDUINO, and the library used to manage the SI5351. I wanna use it on my Bitx40 to add all HF bands.?


Re: New to programming

Vince Vielhaber
 

Download the zipped up library from somewhere like GitHub. Then go to :

Sketch | Include Library | Add .ZIP Library

Select the library in the file dialog and click OK.

Your new library is now installed and ready to use.

Vince.

On 07/18/2017 11:20 PM, Dexter N Muir wrote:
That would be nice if there was "Include Library" there. There isn't.
What there *is* is "Add Library" which then browses for a file. :( Where
next?
Still hopeful ...
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Payment method #bitx20help

 

Hello,
I would like to order bitx40, but PayPal is not available in Turkey. I would like to pay directly from my credit card not through PayPal.
Waiting for your response.
sincerely


Re: AGC Boards

 

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Should be the same as far as I know.


Re: New to programming

 

  • Dexter

Good that you are starting with version 1.8.2 of the Arduino IDE.? It incorporates much
improved library manager tools over what came before.? There is still the issue of library
descriptions not telling us the actual library name (xxx.h, etc.) but the code maintainers
are working on that (they have to edit a lot of library description files).?

C-code for an Arduino can be as simple or as complex as you want it to be.? It can even
be made to look a lot like the Basic that you began with by defining C keywords to be the
same as Basic keywords...but I would not recommend doing that.? 8-)
Just start slowly, make full use of the "examples" in the IDE and the on-line tutorials at:

?

?

?

If you use some other person's code which calls for a library that is not in the IDE library
files you can usually find it by doing a simple Google search on the library name.?
Problem with libraries is that there are so many, some with the same name but different
contents.? Not all are well written, and not all should have been written as libraries instead
of as in-line code.? Experience will soon tell you which libraries are useful, correct, needed,
and well written.

There are a number of BITX related possibilities that use an Arduino:
  • The ubiquitous "Raduino" originally coded by Farhan and modified by many.

  • Huff-and-Puff VFO stabilizers for the original analog tuned BITX-40 VFO.

  • DVM (Digital Volt Meter) functions for displaying S-Units, SWR, RF Power, etc.

  • Digital AGC, ALC, and SWR protection schemes.

  • CW adapters for both sending and receiving.

  • Frequency Memory and Dual-VFO systems.

  • Band Switching (including filter selection)? and Antenna Switching.

  • A-ATU (Automatic Antenna Tuning Unit) systems.
There are many more Arduino related tools that can be done at least partially in software
with an Arduino, as well as PC-side software for rig control and various digital modes.

I too started with hollow-state, upgraded to solid-state, and am trying to keep up with the
digital world.? It is not easy for some of us old timers, but working on it may help keep us
active and alert well into our latter years.

Hang in there OM,

Arv?
_._



On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:38 PM, Dexter N Muir <dexy@...> wrote:
I'm reasonably familiar with hardware here - grew up with 'toobs' and kept pace through to Pentium level - but never got much beyond BASIC (and variants), so this Arduino stuff is spinning my head. I've managed to install the IDE on my Raspberry Pi, from the repository, but seem to have 'queered the pitch' on this my 'workhorse' Kubuntu machine by attempting installation by the tar.xz fiole. Oh, well, onward ... to open 1.8.2 sketch. Error: no rotary.h. OK, where from, and where to put it? Real noob stuff here ...



Re: New to programming

 

The only difference between v2.0.5 and v2.0.6 is a bug fix related to the
way the correction is applied.
However the correction feature is not used in the raduino sketch, so you
won't notice any functional difference.

BTW: I'm now working on raduino v1.20 which no longer uses the SI5351
library at all. Instead Jerry's SI5351 routines will be embedded in the
sketch. This has following advantages:

- minimal routines dedicated for BITX use
- no overhead, no unused features
- great reduction of program space (from 91% down to 63% usage)
- freed program space can be used for additional features in the future
- no longer depending on external library

To be released very soon!

73 Allard PE1NWL

On Wed, July 19, 2017 15:18, Michael Davis wrote:
After much success in uploading the latest few sketches on 3 radios,
(thanks to all that helped) and not wanting to mess with success, I was
wondering if version 2.0.5 is better or worse than version 2.0.6. or any
other? What is the major difference between the versions available?
Clicking? Something else? Awaiting a 90 degree mini usb plug before I do
sketch v1.19. Thanks

Sent from Mike's iPad WA1MAD








Re: BitX PS?

 

I like All Electronics, have been a big customer since the 80s.

Usually $7 shipping or free for $75 order. Sometimes a week shipping time, sometimes faster?

I have a huge box of wall warts from Thrift Stores. Usually $1?

I have cut off or changed all my wall warts to 2.1 mm Pin +.

Here is a nice PS for $6.95, but don't know about regulation. Some small one go way up in voltage when

lightly loaded. This look like it might be a real regulated one, given its size?




Mike, WA6ISP


Re: Tuning clicks

 

Hi Sarma,

I had at hand FT240-43 (a bit bigger than FT37-43 but the same material). With 15 wounds of CuL 0.25mm on that core, replacing resistor with the choke, clicks were ALMOST gone, but not completely while with 3x10 Ohm (cca 3.3 Ohm) clicks are removed completely.

Now, based on that specific choke should have had some 240uH which on 7MHz represents 10K reactance, far more than my 3 Ohms and yet it is still not removing clicks completely, indicating that clicks are not HF in nature. Choke having 240uH would have reactance in the range of few ohms only in the Audio frequency range. This does not necessarily mean that clicks don't have any HF component, but even if they do there seems to be an AF "signal" imposed on top of possible HF (if any) which is finding its way in to the AF amplifier through the power line.

So, following the "low cost yet functional" approach, I'd still opt for a simple resistor.

Jerry,
I wouldn't go as far as 47 Ohm b/c voltage drop I've measured was taken in "steady" state. When Arduino Nano CPU kicks in as we move the tuning pot, driving the Si chip to shift the frequency and also updating LCD, current could increase significantly above the calculated 75mA in a short burst (which is probably generating clicks in the first place). Significant capacitance (eg. 1000uF) after the choke/resistor shall provide for that increased need for a short while, but increasing resistance (unless inductive choke is used) might also lead to instability of Raduino board and we certainly don't want that, it's already working as is (and I haven't noticed overheating of 7805) even if with clicks.

Darren,
People are different, those clicks were pissing me off quite! :) So if you do decide to try it out (as it takes just a single resistor and capacitor you might have at hand), and I'm inclined to believe that capacitor does not even necessarily have to be located on P3, perhaps it could be moved closer to the resistor down the power line and still do the trick, and/or probably be smaller than 1000uF - please do let us know of the result.

73!
Nik, YT5AAA


Re: Starting Over

chris gress
 

I run my bitx on a 40ahc lithium po4 battery it reads 13.8v nothing has gone bang or gets very hot I used to run it on the home PSU at 13.8v I never give it a thought the force is strong in my bitx?

On 19 Jul 2017 15:27, "Curt M." <Kc3hjp@...> wrote:
I'm going to make up or buy an already made voltage convertor that I can connect between on of my Bioenno batteries and get a solid 12V out.? I think the Bioenno batteries are around 13.4v out even t hough the label reads 12V.? That should keep the Bitx happy.? I was really hoping to use the Bitx directly with a Bioenno battery direct but I'm really leery about running much over 12V after the radrino seems to get whacked.? A friend of mine is using a small Bioenno battery with his and although he hasn't used it very much, it hasn't cased a problem yet.? At this time I'm just going to power the main board and the PA with one power supply. ?

So at this point my Bitx is drawing very slightly over 800mA from the wall wort power supply when I give a long and loud "haaaaallooo".? That was measured at the power input connector.? So it sounds like I need to switch to monitoring at the PA power input and follow the alignment procedure?? I'm ?questioning this after getting two replies above that sort of contradict the Wire Up alignment procedure.? KC8WBK says the 1 amp should be total power which in my mind would be different than measuring 1 amp at the power at the PA.? If I get the PA to read 1amp then the total power to the radio would probably be just over 1 amp being that the radrino and the main board's power consumption would be added to the to what the PA is drawing.? VU2ZAP is saying to only adjust the R136.? That kind of contradicts the Wire UP saying to adjust PA bias first and then the pa drive.? Has something changed since the Wire Up area was written?


Re: Starting Over

 

I'm going to make up or buy an already made voltage convertor that I can connect between on of my Bioenno batteries and get a solid 12V out. ?I think the Bioenno batteries are around 13.4v out even t hough the label reads 12V. ?That should keep the Bitx happy. ?I was really hoping to use the Bitx directly with a Bioenno battery direct but I'm really leery about running much over 12V after the radrino seems to get whacked. ?A friend of mine is using a small Bioenno battery with his and although he hasn't used it very much, it hasn't cased a problem yet. ?At this time I'm just going to power the main board and the PA with one power supply. ?

So at this point my Bitx is drawing very slightly over 800mA from the wall wort power supply when I give a long and loud "haaaaallooo". ?That was measured at the power input connector. ?So it sounds like I need to switch to monitoring at the PA power input and follow the alignment procedure? ?I'm ?questioning this after getting two replies above that sort of contradict the Wire Up alignment procedure. ?KC8WBK says the 1 amp should be total power which in my mind would be different than measuring 1 amp at the power at the PA. ?If I get the PA to read 1amp then the total power to the radio would probably be just over 1 amp being that the radrino and the main board's power consumption would be added to the to what the PA is drawing. ?VU2ZAP is saying to only adjust the R136. ?That kind of contradicts the Wire UP saying to adjust PA bias first and then the pa drive. ?Has something changed since the Wire Up area was written?


Re: Starting Over

 

Good point, even a motorcycle battery could probably give 100A.
A fuse or a LM2940-12 or a LM7812 or a 1n400x diode or a 2A polyswitch would offer protection from such currents.


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 06:47 am, Raj vu2zap wrote:
When first testing BITX40 stay away from a lead acid battery because it can source a
huge current and any goof will result in massive smoke.


Re: Starting Over

 

The radio is designed for 12.0 volts.
Even then, Q13 and R141 are exceeding their power dissipation spec, it only gets worse at 13v and beyond.
Not clear to me why Curt's Nano went belly up though, the LM7805 5v regulator sticking out off the side
is rated for up to 35v going in, and if it gets too hot it should just shut down temporarily.

My fully charged lead acid batteries are typically around 12.5v, certainly not 13.0v and beyond.
Though that voltage level will depend on the charger used and how long of a rest the battery has had after charging.
Perhaps add a 1n4000 type diode (or two) ?in series with the battery positive lead if the voltage looks a bit high
and you don't have a proper 12.0 volt regulator handy such as the LM7812 or LM2940.
But the PA-PWR1 to the IRF510 should come straight from the 12v battery without any voltage drop across the diode or regulator.

Jerry


On Wed, Jul 19, 2017 at 04:57 am, Michael Babineau wrote:
I have seen a few people suggest 13 v max, though I am not sure where that number comes from.