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Re: someone just deleted the entire BITX operators map - almost fixed

 

Yes, the address search bar comes up now. TKS


Re: Standoffs for mounting the board

 

I recommend you to assemble the standoffs with loctite 242.

I think the best option is to use the bolts instead of tapping the ?enclosure?

72!!

El 13 jun. 2017 3:55 PM, <davidzdeb@...> escribi¨®:
Excellent! They have a M3 0.5 tap!

Is 0.5 a standard thread spacing?? I see a lot of M3 standoff kits on amazon, and none seem to specify thread spacing.

Also, ?would taping the enclosure be preferable to simply drilling a whole and using a standoff secured with a screw or nut?? I would like something that I can toss in a back pack over and over again without worrying about the standoffs coming loose.


Re: W8TEE VFO Board

Jack Purdum
 

Hi Ken:

Yes, it would be under the OS License Agreements. As I said before, my goal is to get as many of you messing around with microcontrollers and the associated code as I can, and this board brings out a bunch of I/O pins that you can easily play with. With 54 I/O pins and 256K of memory, some of you are going to come up with some really neat stuff that we hope you'll share with us.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

Greetings Dr. Purdum,

Don't just release your idea and trust that everyone will adhere
to the Open Source model. Release it under an Open Source license.
A license gives you and others specific rights.

You may be interested in this Open Source Hardware FAQ:



Personally, I am not a big fan of a light gray font on a white background.
It is very difficult for me to read.
I had to copy paste the content of the wed page into a text editor to read it.

In any case, no matter what kind of license you put on the design,
you will have to defend the license in a court of law to make it valid.
Very few individuals have the resources to defend every infraction of a license.

A few electronics designers/distributors release their designs as
Open Source Hardware and Software; Adafruit and SparkFun are a couple.
Both of them seem to be thriving?

The worst-case scenario is that the Chinese will produce the board
for less than what you are asking for it, and offer free shipping to boot.

I think you have a great idea, and I wish you All The Best.
Ken, KM4NFQ



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I had the same thought. I am in the process of redoing the board because K2ZIA did the initial layout of the board, but he's so busy right now he doesn't have time to mess with it. When the new board is done, I'll post the Gerber files on the group site. I do hope anyone who uses those files does so in the spirit of Open Source.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ




Virus-free.




Re: someone just deleted the entire BITX operators map - almost fixed

 

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 01:37 pm, Al Duncan VE3RRD wrote:
Has the map now been locked? Looks like no one can add their location at this time.

?Try it again.? I was right in the middle of trying something.? It should work fine now.


Re: someone just deleted the entire BITX operators map - almost fixed

 

Has the map now been locked? Looks like no one can add their location at this time.


Re: WANTED VK3YE LED LDR AGC diagram

philip yates
 

Try this, may help. tracks run left to right, breaks are where the blue dashed lines are.
Did try photographing the tracks, but it does not help.

Pot for S meter, depends on the meter.

Phil - G7BZD

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 8:22 PM, philip yates <phil@...> wrote:
Have a photo, it is laid out left to right as per the diagram, other side of the vero board is a mess, as its being used for the umpteenth time, but can describe whats there.
Wire connections Green, Orange(wiper) Blue 10K pot for AGC, red above is +12v, black below is +12v, top red is audio in, thats the wire connected to the resistor. preset with red and black is the feed across the LED to the S meter, and yellow/red is audio out.
Breaks on rear of pcb are under all electrolytics, resistors flat on pcb and the diode. and between the transistor stages.
I have tried to photograph the rear but is a mess, I strip build following the circuit left to right, hoping to get some pads shortly and do a manhatten style build.

Hope it helps.

Phil - G7BZD

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:52 PM, M0LHT <m0lht.huw@...> wrote:
so my son took a screen shot of the video for me so i can print off and read
now to find these parts on the board. and work out how to attach them to the new board.?
i like the idea of an adjustable pot for the agc. can you show me a picture of your board Phill so i can see what both sides of the board look like.

?
Huw




Re: W8TEE VFO Board

Ken KM4NFQ
 

Greetings Dr. Purdum,

Don't just release your idea and trust that everyone will adhere
to the Open Source model. Release it under an Open Source license.
A license gives you and others specific rights.

You may be interested in this Open Source Hardware FAQ:



Personally, I am not a big fan of a light gray font on a white background.
It is very difficult for me to read.
I had to copy paste the content of the wed page into a text editor to read it.

In any case, no matter what kind of license you put on the design,
you will have to defend the license in a court of law to make it valid.
Very few individuals have the resources to defend every infraction of a license.

A few electronics designers/distributors release their designs as
Open Source Hardware and Software; Adafruit and SparkFun are a couple.
Both of them seem to be thriving?

The worst-case scenario is that the Chinese will produce the board
for less than what you are asking for it, and offer free shipping to boot.

I think you have a great idea, and I wish you All The Best.
Ken, KM4NFQ



On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:59 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I had the same thought. I am in the process of redoing the board because K2ZIA did the initial layout of the board, but he's so busy right now he doesn't have time to mess with it. When the new board is done, I'll post the Gerber files on the group site. I do hope anyone who uses those files does so in the spirit of Open Source.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ




Virus-free.



Re: Standoffs for mounting the board

philip yates
 

M3 x 0.5, M3 being the thread and 0.5 being the pitch of the thread.

Phil - G7BZD

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 7:55 PM, <davidzdeb@...> wrote:
Excellent! They have a M3 0.5 tap!

Is 0.5 a standard thread spacing?? I see a lot of M3 standoff kits on amazon, and none seem to specify thread spacing.

Also, ?would taping the enclosure be preferable to simply drilling a whole and using a standoff secured with a screw or nut?? I would like something that I can toss in a back pack over and over again without worrying about the standoffs coming loose.



Re: WANTED VK3YE LED LDR AGC diagram

philip yates
 

Have a photo, it is laid out left to right as per the diagram, other side of the vero board is a mess, as its being used for the umpteenth time, but can describe whats there.
Wire connections Green, Orange(wiper) Blue 10K pot for AGC, red above is +12v, black below is +12v, top red is audio in, thats the wire connected to the resistor. preset with red and black is the feed across the LED to the S meter, and yellow/red is audio out.
Breaks on rear of pcb are under all electrolytics, resistors flat on pcb and the diode. and between the transistor stages.
I have tried to photograph the rear but is a mess, I strip build following the circuit left to right, hoping to get some pads shortly and do a manhatten style build.

Hope it helps.

Phil - G7BZD

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:52 PM, M0LHT <m0lht.huw@...> wrote:
so my son took a screen shot of the video for me so i can print off and read
now to find these parts on the board. and work out how to attach them to the new board.?
i like the idea of an adjustable pot for the agc. can you show me a picture of your board Phill so i can see what both sides of the board look like.

?
Huw



Re: Standoffs for mounting the board

 

Excellent! They have a M3 0.5 tap!

Is 0.5 a standard thread spacing? ?I see a lot of M3 standoff kits on amazon, and none seem to specify thread spacing.

Also, ?would taping the enclosure be preferable to simply drilling a whole and using a standoff secured with a screw or nut? ?I would like something that I can toss in a back pack over and over again without worrying about the standoffs coming loose.


Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

 

Jack

Just using the full size atmega wired to display for testing until i get the last of my parts --i have a pro mini

I entered the new code and recompiled and uploaded - no change - displays looks like the pic i sent before



g_identifier = tft.readID(); //
? Serial.print("ID = 0x");
? Serial.println(g_identifier, HEX);
? if (g_identifier == 0x00D3 || g_identifier == 0xD3D3) g_identifier = 0x9481; // write-only shield
? if (g_identifier == 0xFFFF) g_identifier = 0x9341; // serial
? // ? ?g_identifier = 0x9329; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? // force ID
? tft.begin(g_identifier);


Joe


On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 3:32 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
As I mentioned, I'm not sure the full-sized MEGA 2565 will work with my PCB, which is the smaller Pro Mini. I think the SPI pins are going to be located at different places on the two boards.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Joe <joeman2116@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

Jack, John, Vince......THANKS!!!!! ? ? ?It works!


1. ?modify mcufriend kbv.cpp?
In the mcufriend_kbv library, see the file MCUFRIEND_kbv.cpp.
There is a line near the top that is commented out:

"//define support_1289? // costs about 408 bytes" ? ? ?----- ( I uncommented?it)


2. and?

line 1332 0n my code ?I added ? ? ?g_identifier = 0x1289;

just before this code. ?switch (g_identifier) {

Recompile and now can see display - freq, s meter, etc.

As a further test

I un commented and commented each line below to see if the display would change?

Display appeared but not correct ?placement?


line 1344 ? ?g_identifier = tft.readID(); ? ?// Get TFT ID ?3.95" = 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488 ?2.8 = 0x1289 ? ? - when using this the pictures is as appears below
?

line1346 ? ? // g_identifier = 0x1289; ? ? ? I also tried this - same results as picture below



It looks like text size on some lines are ?to large or incorrect display line?

?see photo

running on an regular atmega 2560 for testing





On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:

ok, before the line tft.begin(g_identifier) put
g_identifier = 0x8989;

and see if it runs.? You may need to check on the arduino forum for other possible values.? I didn't see a chip number in the pic you posted.

Vince.

On 06/12/2017 09:46 PM, Joe wrote:
I ran it? before.
It suggests trying? the defined option

One resulted in? id =0 and
when I tried the other option the id said? id =8989
tft =240 x320


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...
<mailto:vev@...>> wrote:

? ? Go to the examples for the library and run the LCD_ID example.? Have
? ? a serial monitor window open and see what they ID it as, if they do.

? ? Vince.

? ? On 06/12/2017 09:29 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? I have the? MCUFRIEND_kbv library loaded and it compiles with
? ? ? ? some ino
? ? ? ? examples but only white screen.

? ? ? ? Joe

? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>
? ? ? ? <mailto:vev@... <mailto:vev@...>>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? Go to <>
? ? ? ? <> and do a search for
? ? ? ? ? ? MCUFRIEND_kbv.? That driver should work.

? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.



? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:16 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jack,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have been experimenting while waiting for my remaining few
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? parts to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? arrive.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I purchase a 2.8 inch tft display ( it says
? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <> on it)

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It has appears to have the correct pins / jacks etc.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The problem is I thought I would try to find an example
? ? ? ? to test
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if the
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? TFT works.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Well, I tried several but only get a white screen.? I
? ? ? ? used a uno and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? attached the tft to - as pins match ...tried other
? ? ? ? sketches -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? still only
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a white screen
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I tried other arduino, atmega 2560 and adjusted the pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? accordingly ,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? same results, they compile and upload but nothing but a
? ? ? ? white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1. Do you have an exact source where you purchased your
? ? ? ? display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2. Any guidance to further test my current display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3. The photo below is my current display..


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Any help would be appreciated

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VE1BWV



? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






? ? --
? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?








Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

Jack Purdum
 

As I mentioned, I'm not sure the full-sized MEGA 2565 will work with my PCB, which is the smaller Pro Mini. I think the SPI pins are going to be located at different places on the two boards.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Joe <joeman2116@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:57 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

Jack, John, Vince......THANKS!!!!! ? ? ?It works!


1. ?modify mcufriend kbv.cpp?
In the mcufriend_kbv library, see the file MCUFRIEND_kbv.cpp.
There is a line near the top that is commented out:

"//define support_1289? // costs about 408 bytes" ? ? ?----- ( I uncommented?it)


2. and?

line 1332 0n my code ?I added ? ? ?g_identifier = 0x1289;

just before this code. ?switch (g_identifier) {

Recompile and now can see display - freq, s meter, etc.

As a further test

I un commented and commented each line below to see if the display would change?

Display appeared but not correct ?placement?


line 1344 ? ?g_identifier = tft.readID(); ? ?// Get TFT ID ?3.95" = 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488 ?2.8 = 0x1289 ? ? - when using this the pictures is as appears below
?

line1346 ? ? // g_identifier = 0x1289; ? ? ? I also tried this - same results as picture below



It looks like text size on some lines are ?to large or incorrect display line?

?see photo

running on an regular atmega 2560 for testing





On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:

ok, before the line tft.begin(g_identifier) put
g_identifier = 0x8989;

and see if it runs.? You may need to check on the arduino forum for other possible values.? I didn't see a chip number in the pic you posted.

Vince.

On 06/12/2017 09:46 PM, Joe wrote:
I ran it? before.
It suggests trying? the defined option

One resulted in? id =0 and
when I tried the other option the id said? id =8989
tft =240 x320


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...
<mailto:vev@...>> wrote:

? ? Go to the examples for the library and run the LCD_ID example.? Have
? ? a serial monitor window open and see what they ID it as, if they do.

? ? Vince.

? ? On 06/12/2017 09:29 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? I have the? MCUFRIEND_kbv library loaded and it compiles with
? ? ? ? some ino
? ? ? ? examples but only white screen.

? ? ? ? Joe

? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>
? ? ? ? <mailto:vev@... <mailto:vev@...>>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? Go to <>
? ? ? ? <> and do a search for
? ? ? ? ? ? MCUFRIEND_kbv.? That driver should work.

? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.



? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:16 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jack,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have been experimenting while waiting for my remaining few
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? parts to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? arrive.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I purchase a 2.8 inch tft display ( it says
? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <> on it)

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It has appears to have the correct pins / jacks etc.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The problem is I thought I would try to find an example
? ? ? ? to test
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if the
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? TFT works.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Well, I tried several but only get a white screen.? I
? ? ? ? used a uno and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? attached the tft to - as pins match ...tried other
? ? ? ? sketches -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? still only
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a white screen
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I tried other arduino, atmega 2560 and adjusted the pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? accordingly ,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? same results, they compile and upload but nothing but a
? ? ? ? white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1. Do you have an exact source where you purchased your
? ? ? ? display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2. Any guidance to further test my current display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3. The photo below is my current display..


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Any help would be appreciated

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VE1BWV



? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






? ? --
? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?







Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

Jack Purdum
 

Joe:

What happens if you put this code in my program:

? g_identifier = tft.readID(); //
? Serial.print("ID = 0x");
? Serial.println(g_identifier, HEX);
? if (g_identifier == 0x00D3 || g_identifier == 0xD3D3) g_identifier = 0x9481; // write-only shield
? if (g_identifier == 0xFFFF) g_identifier = 0x9341; // serial
? // ? ?g_identifier = 0x9329; ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? // force ID
? tft.begin(g_identifier);

starting around line 1335? The key is setting the identifier.

Jack, W8TEE


From: Joe <joeman2116@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

As a further test I ?tried some other code from "PD8W


?"
see below
Display working with various codes but it seems to fit on this one (PD8W'S CODE)




Joe
VE1BWV

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Joe <joeman2116@...> wrote:
Jack, John, Vince......THANKS!!!!! ? ? ?It works!


1. ?modify mcufriend kbv.cpp?
In the mcufriend_kbv library, see the file MCUFRIEND_kbv.cpp.
There is a line near the top that is commented out:

"//define support_1289? // costs about 408 bytes" ? ? ?----- ( I uncommented?it)


2. and?

line 1332 0n my code ?I added ? ? ?g_identifier = 0x1289;

just before this code. ?switch (g_identifier) {

Recompile and now can see display - freq, s meter, etc.

As a further test

I un commented and commented each line below to see if the display would change?

Display appeared but not correct ?placement?


line 1344 ? ?g_identifier = tft.readID(); ? ?// Get TFT ID ?3.95" = 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488 ?2.8 = 0x1289 ? ? - when using this the pictures is as appears below
?

line1346 ? ? // g_identifier = 0x1289; ? ? ? I also tried this - same results as picture below



It looks like text size on some lines are ?to large or incorrect display line?

?see photo

running on an regular atmega 2560 for testing





On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:

ok, before the line tft.begin(g_identifier) put
g_identifier = 0x8989;

and see if it runs.? You may need to check on the arduino forum for other possible values.? I didn't see a chip number in the pic you posted.

Vince.

On 06/12/2017 09:46 PM, Joe wrote:
I ran it? before.
It suggests trying? the defined option

One resulted in? id =0 and
when I tried the other option the id said? id =8989
tft =240 x320


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...
<mailto:vev@...>> wrote:

? ? Go to the examples for the library and run the LCD_ID example.? Have
? ? a serial monitor window open and see what they ID it as, if they do.

? ? Vince.

? ? On 06/12/2017 09:29 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? I have the? MCUFRIEND_kbv library loaded and it compiles with
? ? ? ? some ino
? ? ? ? examples but only white screen.

? ? ? ? Joe

? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>
? ? ? ? <mailto:vev@... <mailto:vev@...>>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? Go to <>
? ? ? ? <> and do a search for
? ? ? ? ? ? MCUFRIEND_kbv.? That driver should work.

? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.



? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:16 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jack,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have been experimenting while waiting for my remaining few
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? parts to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? arrive.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I purchase a 2.8 inch tft display ( it says
? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <> on it)

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It has appears to have the correct pins / jacks etc.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The problem is I thought I would try to find an example
? ? ? ? to test
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if the
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? TFT works.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Well, I tried several but only get a white screen.? I
? ? ? ? used a uno and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? attached the tft to - as pins match ...tried other
? ? ? ? sketches -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? still only
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a white screen
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I tried other arduino, atmega 2560 and adjusted the pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? accordingly ,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? same results, they compile and upload but nothing but a
? ? ? ? white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1. Do you have an exact source where you purchased your
? ? ? ? display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2. Any guidance to further test my current display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3. The photo below is my current display..


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Any help would be appreciated

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VE1BWV



? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






? ? --
? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?








Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

Vince Vielhaber
 

Jack, John, Vince......THANKS!!!!! It works!
YAY!!!!!

Vince.
--
Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

 

As a further test I ?tried some other code from "PD8W


?"
see below
Display working with various codes but it seems to fit on this one (PD8W'S CODE)




Joe
VE1BWV

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Joe <joeman2116@...> wrote:
Jack, John, Vince......THANKS!!!!! ? ? ?It works!


1. ?modify mcufriend kbv.cpp?
In the mcufriend_kbv library, see the file MCUFRIEND_kbv.cpp.
There is a line near the top that is commented out:

"//define support_1289? // costs about 408 bytes" ? ? ?----- ( I uncommented?it)


2. and?

line 1332 0n my code ?I added ? ? ?g_identifier = 0x1289;

just before this code. ?switch (g_identifier) {

Recompile and now can see display - freq, s meter, etc.

As a further test

I un commented and commented each line below to see if the display would change?

Display appeared but not correct ?placement?


line 1344 ? ?g_identifier = tft.readID(); ? ?// Get TFT ID ?3.95" = 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488 ?2.8 = 0x1289 ? ? - when using this the pictures is as appears below
?

line1346 ? ? // g_identifier = 0x1289; ? ? ? I also tried this - same results as picture below



It looks like text size on some lines are ?to large or incorrect display line?

?see photo

running on an regular atmega 2560 for testing





On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:

ok, before the line tft.begin(g_identifier) put
g_identifier = 0x8989;

and see if it runs.? You may need to check on the arduino forum for other possible values.? I didn't see a chip number in the pic you posted.

Vince.

On 06/12/2017 09:46 PM, Joe wrote:
I ran it? before.
It suggests trying? the defined option

One resulted in? id =0 and
when I tried the other option the id said? id =8989
tft =240 x320


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...
<mailto:vev@...>> wrote:

? ? Go to the examples for the library and run the LCD_ID example.? Have
? ? a serial monitor window open and see what they ID it as, if they do.

? ? Vince.

? ? On 06/12/2017 09:29 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? I have the? MCUFRIEND_kbv library loaded and it compiles with
? ? ? ? some ino
? ? ? ? examples but only white screen.

? ? ? ? Joe

? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>
? ? ? ? <mailto:vev@... <mailto:vev@...>>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? Go to <>
? ? ? ? <> and do a search for
? ? ? ? ? ? MCUFRIEND_kbv.? That driver should work.

? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.



? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:16 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jack,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have been experimenting while waiting for my remaining few
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? parts to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? arrive.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I purchase a 2.8 inch tft display ( it says
? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <> on it)

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It has appears to have the correct pins / jacks etc.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The problem is I thought I would try to find an example
? ? ? ? to test
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if the
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? TFT works.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Well, I tried several but only get a white screen.? I
? ? ? ? used a uno and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? attached the tft to - as pins match ...tried other
? ? ? ? sketches -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? still only
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a white screen
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I tried other arduino, atmega 2560 and adjusted the pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? accordingly ,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? same results, they compile and upload but nothing but a
? ? ? ? white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1. Do you have an exact source where you purchased your
? ? ? ? display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2. Any guidance to further test my current display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3. The photo below is my current display..


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Any help would be appreciated

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VE1BWV



? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






? ? --
? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

 

Jack, John, Vince......THANKS!!!!! ? ? ?It works!


1. ?modify mcufriend kbv.cpp?
In the mcufriend_kbv library, see the file MCUFRIEND_kbv.cpp.
There is a line near the top that is commented out:

"//define support_1289? // costs about 408 bytes" ? ? ?----- ( I uncommented?it)


2. and?

line 1332 0n my code ?I added ? ? ?g_identifier = 0x1289;

just before this code. ?switch (g_identifier) {

Recompile and now can see display - freq, s meter, etc.

As a further test

I un commented and commented each line below to see if the display would change?

Display appeared but not correct ?placement?


line 1344 ? ?g_identifier = tft.readID(); ? ?// Get TFT ID ?3.95" = 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488 ?2.8 = 0x1289 ? ? - when using this the pictures is as appears below
?

line1346 ? ? // g_identifier = 0x1289; ? ? ? I also tried this - same results as picture below



It looks like text size on some lines are ?to large or incorrect display line?

?see photo

running on an regular atmega 2560 for testing





On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:56 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:

ok, before the line tft.begin(g_identifier) put
g_identifier = 0x8989;

and see if it runs.? You may need to check on the arduino forum for other possible values.? I didn't see a chip number in the pic you posted.

Vince.

On 06/12/2017 09:46 PM, Joe wrote:
I ran it? before.
It suggests trying? the defined option

One resulted in? id =0 and
when I tried the other option the id said? id =8989
tft =240 x320


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...
<mailto:vev@...>> wrote:

? ? Go to the examples for the library and run the LCD_ID example.? Have
? ? a serial monitor window open and see what they ID it as, if they do.

? ? Vince.

? ? On 06/12/2017 09:29 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? I have the? MCUFRIEND_kbv library loaded and it compiles with
? ? ? ? some ino
? ? ? ? examples but only white screen.

? ? ? ? Joe

? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>
? ? ? ? <mailto:vev@... <mailto:vev@...>>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? Go to <>
? ? ? ? <> and do a search for
? ? ? ? ? ? MCUFRIEND_kbv.? That driver should work.

? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.



? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:16 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jack,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have been experimenting while waiting for my remaining few
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? parts to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? arrive.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I purchase a 2.8 inch tft display ( it says
? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <> on it)

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It has appears to have the correct pins / jacks etc.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The problem is I thought I would try to find an example
? ? ? ? to test
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if the
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? TFT works.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Well, I tried several but only get a white screen.? I
? ? ? ? used a uno and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? attached the tft to - as pins match ...tried other
? ? ? ? sketches -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? still only
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a white screen
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I tried other arduino, atmega 2560 and adjusted the pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? accordingly ,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? same results, they compile and upload but nothing but a
? ? ? ? white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1. Do you have an exact source where you purchased your
? ? ? ? display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2. Any guidance to further test my current display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3. The photo below is my current display..


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Any help would be appreciated

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VE1BWV



? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






? ? --
? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?






--
? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?





Re: W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

 

HaHA - made me look twice.....


joe

ve1bwv

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 12:14 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
I have the same display. It doesn't work. Just kidding! It should work fine.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Joe <joeman2116@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, June 12, 2017 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

just ordered this one:
3.5 inch TFT LCD Display Touch Screen UNO R3 Board Plug and Play Module Arduino



On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:54 PM, Vince Vielhaber <vev@...> wrote:
Go on the arduino forum and find the thread for the MCUFRIEND_kbv library.? The guy that keeps it up to date is on that thread and can tell you how to set it up.? Also make sure you have the latest version of the library.

Vince.



On 06/12/2017 10:48 PM, Joe wrote:
Ok thanks... TFt can be a pain... always a driver issue..

Will order another and wait to see if that works..


On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:40 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
<econjack=[email protected] <mailto:econjack=yahoo.com@gro ups.io>> wrote:

? ? Well, that's about all the tricks I can control. See if you can find
? ? a driver for that board somewhere. If the vendor has demo code that
? ? runs, ask for that to see how they got it to run.

? ? Jack, W8TEE


? ? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------
? ? *From:* Joe <joeman2116@... <mailto:joeman2116@...>>
? ? *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
? ? *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 10:37 PM

? ? *Subject:* Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

? ? ?//g_identifier = tft.readID();? ? // Get TFT ID? 3.95" = 0x9486,
? ? 3.6" = 0x9488
? ? ? g_identifier = 0x1581;
? ? ? switch (g_identifier) {

? ? no change? still white screen...


? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 11:29 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
? ? <econjack=[email protected] <mailto:econjack=yahoo.com@gro ups.io>>
? ? wrote:

? ? ? ? Comment out line 1334 and change it:

? ? ? ? 1334? ?/ // g_identifier = tft.readID();? ? // Get TFT ID? 3.95"
? ? ? ? = 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488/
? ? ? ? /1334? ? ?g_identifier = 0x1581;/
? ? ? ? /
? ? ? ? /
? ? ? ? /
? ? ? ? /
? ? ? ? and see what happens. This forces it to assume the non-default
? ? ? ? parameters.

? ? ? ? Jack, W8TEE
? ? ? ? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------
? ? ? ? *From:* Joe <joeman2116@... <mailto:joeman2116@...>>
? ? ? ? *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
? ? ? ? *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 10:24 PM

? ? ? ? *Subject:* Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

? ? ? ? I wired the display up to a atmega 2560
? ? ? ? ran your pgm and the serial said:

? ? ? ? Serial took 0ms to start
? ? ? ? ID = 0x1289
? ? ? ? 100 Hz


? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:59 PM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io
? ? ? ? <econjack=[email protected]
? ? ? ? <mailto:econjack=yahoo.com@gro ups.io>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? Do you have the latest Adafruit graphics library installed?
? ? ? ? ? ? Around line 1334 is the line:

? ? ? ? ? ? /? g_identifier = tft.readID();? ? // Get TFT ID? 3.95" =
? ? ? ? ? ? 0x9486, 3.6" = 0x9488/

? ? ? ? ? ? put these lines after it:
? ? ? ? ? ? /
? ? ? ? ? ? /
? ? ? ? ? ? /? Serial.print("g-ID = ");/
? ? ? ? ? ? /? Serial.println(g_identifier, HEX);/

? ? ? ? ? ? and see if the ID is in the program. If your number does not
? ? ? ? ? ? appear in the switch/case block (lines 1336-1460), the code
? ? ? ? ? ? by default assumes the display is a 0x154 or 0x9341. If it
? ? ? ? ? ? is not one of those, try changing /g_identifier/ to 0X9488
? ? ? ? ? ? and see if that works.

? ? ? ? ? ? Jack, W8TEE


? ? ? ? ? ? ------------------------------ ------------------------------ ------------
? ? ? ? ? ? *From:* Joe <joeman2116@... <mailto:joeman2116@...>>
? ? ? ? ? ? *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
? ? ? ? ? ? *Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 9:46 PM
? ? ? ? ? ? *Subject:* Re: [BITX20] W8TEE TFT /VFO BOARD - WHICH DISPLAY?

? ? ? ? ? ? I ran it? before.
? ? ? ? ? ? It suggests trying? the defined option

? ? ? ? ? ? One resulted in? id =0 and
? ? ? ? ? ? when I tried the other option the id said? id =8989
? ? ? ? ? ? tft =240 x320


? ? ? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>> wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Go to the examples for the library and run the LCD_ID
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? example.? Have a serial monitor window open and see what
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? they ID it as, if they do.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:29 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have the? MCUFRIEND_kbv library loaded and it
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? compiles with some ino
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? examples but only white screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:27 PM, Vince Vielhaber
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <vev@... <mailto:vev@...>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <mailto:vev@... <mailto:vev@...>>>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Go to <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? < <>> and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? do a search for
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? MCUFRIEND_kbv.? That driver should work.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Vince.



? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? On 06/12/2017 09:16 PM, Joe wrote:

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Jack,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I have been experimenting while waiting for
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? my remaining few
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? parts to
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? arrive.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I purchase a 2.8 inch tft display ( it says
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <>> on it)


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? It has appears to have the correct pins /
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? jacks etc.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The problem is I thought I would try to find
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? an example to test
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? if the
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? TFT works.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Well, I tried several but only get a white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.? I used a uno and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? attached the tft to - as pins match ...tried
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? other sketches -
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? still only
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? a white screen
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? I tried other arduino, atmega 2560 and
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? adjusted the pins
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? accordingly ,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? same results, they compile and upload but
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? nothing but a white
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? screen.

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1. Do you have an exact source where you
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? purchased your display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 2. Any guidance to further test my current
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? display?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 3. The photo below is my current display..


? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Any help would be appreciated

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Joe
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? VE1BWV



? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <>

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <>






? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? --
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Michigan VHF Corp.? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? <>








? ? ? ? ? ? <>
? ? ? ? ? ? Virus-free.
? ? ? ? ? ? <>


? ? ? ? ? ? <>










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Re: W8TEE VFO Board

Jack Purdum
 

I had the same thought. I am in the process of redoing the board because K2ZIA did the initial layout of the board, but he's so busy right now he doesn't have time to mess with it. When the new board is done, I'll post the Gerber files on the group site. I do hope anyone who uses those files does so in the spirit of Open Source.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] W8TEE VFO Board

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ




Virus-free.


Re: W8TEE VFO Board

 

Hi Jack
It is simple, you can never try to think for other, it is impossible and more complicate you can imagine.
Share all the information included the PCB file and let them use the best way to do it.
The profit never will pay your knowledge and altruism, if someone wants to get your board OK, it is a one way to get it, but if they have other way to do it, "maybe the only possible", to do it, good for them too.
Qrv's
73's Jc


¡°If you have a penny and I have a penny and we exchange pennies, you still have one cent and I still have one cent.? But if you have an idea and I have an idea and we exchange ideas, you now have two ideas and I now have two ideas.¡±?

Mr. Juan Carlos Berberena Gonzalez, BSc.
WJ6C exCO6BG?


? -----------please check it out-----------






2017-06-13 11:28 GMT-04:00 Ken KM4NFQ <km4nfq@...>:

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ



Re: W8TEE VFO Board

Ken KM4NFQ
 

On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
So...how do I make it less expensive to reach all of you hackers who live in other countries to the benefit of all of us? Ideas?

Jack, W8TEE

Greetings Dr. Purdum,
Is your VFO Board released as Open Source Hardware? If so, then the more technically adept can etch their own boards, and those that prefer not to etch their own boards can have them fabricated by their favorite (local?) circuit board fabricator. This would also allow people to modify the design, and share their modifications with others. Or, groups of like-minded individuals in other countries can get a fab-shop order together, to reduce fab costs, as well as shipping costs. Of course, not everyone feels the same way about Open Source Hardware and Software. It is your board. I just feel that Open Source is the way to go. Yet, people who would prefer to order directly from you can still do so, if they don't mind paying the extra shipping and handling.
Regards
Ken, KM4NFQ