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Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

I couldnt use the Elsie as Linux wine emulator crashes when i run it. I used the good ol LTSpice starting with a standard low pass filter and modifying it with the capacitor to create the notch. The trick is to keep the parallel inductor and the caps reactance same as the original inductor at the cut of frequency.
One coukd spend days playing simulations. Gradually, a pattern of images emerge that we call spherical, cheychev, Butterworth, etc. They are all about various ratios that do things to the passband.
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On 6 Mar 2017 4:59 p.m., "dvhammer_99" <DaleHammer@...> wrote:

Jerry,

I am pretty sure the component values used by Ashhar for the transmit filters agree with this article as I used to ELSIE program to display the frequency response using the values listed on the Microbitx schematic.? The resulting plot agreed exactly with the desired low pass response of 7 Mhz with a notch at 10.5Mhz and the other filter of a low pass response of 28 Mhz with a notch at 42 Mhz. ??I believe Ashhar picked the values as a compromise to allow a filter to be used for multiple bands, versus the values used in the article which were picked for single band harmonic suppression.

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Now I need to figure out how to use the ELSIE program to calculate the desired component values from scratch as Ashhar did J

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73,

Dale? K9NN

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 7:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

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That QST article suggests the return loss might not be acceptable across more than one band.? The topology agrees but Ashhar's values differ significantly from those recommended, might be something more going on here.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 03:45 pm, dvhammer_99 wrote:

I believe the two lowpass/notch filters used by Ashhar in the transmitter output are based on the the W3NQN filter design described in the article. “Second-Harmonic Optimized

Low-Pass Filters”.? The article is available at:

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Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

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Jerry,

I am pretty sure the component values used by Ashhar for the transmit filters agree with this article as I used to ELSIE program to display the frequency response using the values listed on the Microbitx schematic.? The resulting plot agreed exactly with the desired low pass response of 7 Mhz with a notch at 10.5Mhz and the other filter of a low pass response of 28 Mhz with a notch at 42 Mhz. ??I believe Ashhar picked the values as a compromise to allow a filter to be used for multiple bands, versus the values used in the article which were picked for single band harmonic suppression.

?

Now I need to figure out how to use the ELSIE program to calculate the desired component values from scratch as Ashhar did J

?

73,

Dale? K9NN

?

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 7:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

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That QST article suggests the return loss might not be acceptable across more than one band. ?The topology agrees but Ashhar's values differ significantly from those recommended, might be something more going on here.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 03:45 pm, dvhammer_99 wrote:

I believe the two lowpass/notch filters used by Ashhar in the transmitter output are based on the the W3NQN filter design described in the article. “Second-Harmonic Optimized

Low-Pass Filters”.? The article is available at:

?




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Re: PTT pop hack

 

I will leave it up to you guys!

I am happier with a soldering iron than a pen !!

Cheers
Raj

At 06-03-2017, you wrote:
Thanks, Rai!

What is about adding this note to the wiki? There are some very helpfully posts on this list. It would be nice if we would find the tips and tricks on the wiki, too.

(/g/BITX20/wiki)


Earphone jack not grounded?

 

I wonder why the earphone jack must not be grounded? When i measure from speaker (minus) to ground there is connection. I plan to install in a metal case an mount the jack in the front.


Re: Setting up Arudio environment for Rardio programming ?

 

Tilman


you can ignore this warning. If you want to disable warnings with printLine function calls you could try to use statements like this:

printLine2( (char *) " ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?");

For more Infos look at:

/g/BITX20/message/22696?p=Created,,,20,1,0,0?

there already was a discussion about this.


Armin, DJ2AG


Re: PTT pop hack

Stephan Lauffer
 

Thanks, Rai!

What is about adding this note to the wiki? There are some very helpfully posts on this list. It would be nice if we would find the tips and tricks on the wiki, too.

(/g/BITX20/wiki)

Am 05.03.2017 um 07:33 schrieb Raj vu2zap:

Folks,

After much poking and probing with instruments I found the reason for the power pop when you press the PTT.

When PTT is pressed the TX voltage floods the mic preamp. Capacitor C122 charges up and the charging current flows into t4 and then
D15 - thereby for a fraction of a second the carrier leaks through and if you are listing with another RX you will hear a "tong" kind of sound.

Solution is to stop this flow through the diode then R106 - R220 to ground.

In my analog VFO version I desoldered the R106's center pin and put in a 0.1 capacitor in series. This stops the capacitor charge current from routing though the mixer diode.

For better measure add a 1K resistor across C107. I found a constant 30mV there which was unbalancing my diodes and the carrier balance pot R106 was more to clockwise than needed!

For the digital VFO board or boards without R106 trimmer, cut the track between D20 and R38 and solder a smd 0.1 cap there.

Result is a significantly reduced pop which is not bothersome anymore.

Farhan please incorporate this hack.

Cheers for a pop free Sunday!
--
Stephan, dc8lz


Re: Setting up Arudio environment for Rardio programming ?

 

Ron

Thank you so very much.

I changed for version 1.1.2.

After a "verify-run" I still get a number of varnings though. I have not changed the code, so all is the original-code to start with.

The warnings I get are along the line of :

In function 'void setup()':

warning: depecated conversion from string constant to 'char*' [-Write-strings]

printLine2(" ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?");

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ^


The library LiquidCrystal 1.0.5 is installed

Then doing a "Tools - Get board info" - The output I get is "BN: Unknown board"....

I use ARDUINO 1.8.1 ?installed from Windows store.

------------

Would be handy to have a doc that describes what need to be installed to have a working programming environment .... ?;-)

/ Tilman SM0JZT



Re: Minimum Hack

 

Just to be obnoxious: ?Mostly right, though not absolutely right. ?Voltages at K1-14 are around 200mv rms max of 7mhz during transmit, 1n4148's there would not conduct more than a few microamps till voltages got beyond double that. ?But I'll agree with John that ?K1-12 to ground is the logical place, that's where I put them.?


On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 09:01 pm, John Backo wrote:

Al is absolutely right. You can't put a diode in the transmit circuit.

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Re: Minimum Hack

 

Al is absolutely right. You can't put a diode in the transmit circuit.
It has to be on the antenna side so that it doesn't conduct during TX.
As noted, this is to protect a rather sensitive Q13 from overload during RX
since it is in a common circuit for RX and TX.

Mea culpa.

john
AD5YE


Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

Hi Sandeep jee,

?The capacitor under discussion is for carrier removal and Audio in/ out can happily work even with 0.1uF value, I suppose, sir.


sarma

?vu3zmv


Re: Minimum Hack

 

The diodes are to protect Q13's base from strong signals during receive only, the diodes shouldn't be connected to Q13 in transmit (Q13 is a transmitter pre-driver). Using the K1 pin numbers shown on the schematic at , they should be between K1 pin 12 and ground - that way they will only be connected during receive and also provide protection to the RX circuitry. On the top of the BITX40v3 board, you can see the trace coming from C132 (which goes to Q13 base) and connecting to K1 pin 12. If the diodes are connected to K1 pin 14, they will always be in the circuit, even during TX. Without these diodes, a number of people have had Q13 fail when a strong (100W) TX is on an antenna located near the BITX40v3 antenna.


uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

Farhan Sir,
C107 gndref near BPO mizer xfrmr .1uf seems typo to me, will it be .001 ??



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Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

Damb you Ashhar... now I have another project to add to the ever growing list.... uBitx looks like a very interesting rig, I am sure it will evolve a bit in the next few months so it is probably lucky I have 3 other rigs partly completed that I need to finish first.

Thanks Ashhar and the others involved with this project it looks to be an excellent piece of home brew work that many will replicate.
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Mike VK3XL


Re: Minimum Hack

 

"So my question is should the diodes be from pin 12 or pin 14 of K1 (or does it matter as the two are connected in the unenergized condition)?"

It doesn't matter. You are protecting the RX input
from the antenna against a very strong signal.
As long as it is on that line, the function is good.

That being said, it is probably a bit smarter to put the
diodes on the receiver input side rather than the antenna side,
since it is that which you are protecting, and that way you
can account for any relay contact lag or other strong signal.

john
AD5YE


Re: Minimum Hack

Gene Nitschke
 

?OOPs meant to say?

"The attached photo shows the diodes attached from Pin 12 to Pin 16 (K2-14 to Gnd) and two wires for TX LED (pin 1 to Gnd)."

Pinout also got reformatted hope below version is better.

16????????????1
blank????????blank
14????????????3
blank????????blank
12????????????5
blank????????blank
blank????????blank
9????????????????8


Gene


BitX 40v3 parts list?

Gene Nitschke
 

Hi all,

I am still working on my BitX40 v3 and having a great time!

Thanks to everyone for all there help in my debug so far.

Quick question. ?I have the schematics but is there a complete corresponding parts list somewhere?

Seems trivial but it would make it easier to replace some parts if the part number was quickly available (some of the devices are difficult to read).

Thanks,

Gene?

N2IJF


Re: Minimum Hack

 

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Did my best to ohm out the traces and checked web based data.

Pinout of K1 is the same as a 16 pin dip with the same spacing so some pin counts must be skipped.

Pinout for bottom view of K1 (Easy to find pin 16 as it is grounded):

16 1
blank blank
14 ? ? ? ? 3
blank blank
12 ? ? ? ? 5
blank blank
blank blank
9 ? ? ? ? 8

The attached photo shows the diodes attached from Pin 12 to Pin 16 (TX to Gnd) and two wires for TX LED (pin 1 to Gnd).

So my question is should the diodes be from pin 12 or pin?14 of K1 (or does it matter as the two are connected in the unenergized condition)?

Gene?
N2IJF


Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

Just out of curiosity, Ash, why are L8 and L9 separate?

Is it topography or is there a reason not to use an UNUN
here?

john
AD5YE


Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

That QST article suggests the return loss might not be acceptable across more than one band. ?The topology agrees but Ashhar's values differ significantly from those recommended, might be something more going on here.

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 03:45 pm, dvhammer_99 wrote:

I believe the two lowpass/notch filters used by Ashhar in the transmitter output are based on the the W3NQN filter design described in the article. “Second-Harmonic Optimized

Low-Pass Filters”.? The article is available at:

?


Re: uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

 

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Paul,

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Ashhar, please correct any errors in my message.

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I believe the two lowpass/notch filters used by Ashhar in the transmitter output are based on the the W3NQN filter design described in the article. “Second-Harmonic Optimized

Low-Pass Filters”.? The article is available at:

The filter can be designed using the ELSIE software that is available for free for hobbyists at:

?

The values of C241, C245, C231 and C235 are listed as 0 as they are not used in this filter.

?

This looks like a great project and I am collecting parts J

?

73,

Dale? K9NN

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of VK3HN
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:51 AM
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Subject: Re: [BITX20] uBITX - A reboot of the old BITX

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T10 and T11 look like all the other trifilar FT37-43 transformers but as they are both handling power I assume they need something bigger. Ashar, what cores did you use?

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Also the top capacitors in the PA LPFs dont have values... c241, c245, ?c231, c235... are these required??




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