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Re: WIKI misdirection

 

Ok, now the correct answer...

The "Building Guide" page just was not created.
Fixed by just creating it.


k5ess.nothdurft@... 2017-02-27 18:29:
The "Building Guides" link on the WIKI directs back to the home page
rather than the "Building Guides" page.


73 de Patrick OE6PSE
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Re: WIKI misdirection

 

The wiki seems to have a bug:

/g/BITX20/wiki will produce wrong links.

Working:
/g/BITX20/wiki/ (note the slash at the end!)
/g/BITX20/wiki/Home

I've reported that in the beta group via
/g/beta/message/13072

Patrick

k5ess.nothdurft@... 2017-02-27 18:29:
The "Building Guides" link on the WIKI directs back to the home page
rather than the "Building Guides" page.

Mike N.

K5ESS

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Re: Bitx 40 frequency limitations.

 

Here's my BITX-40 ..?https://youtu.be/CB4f-Pl27J0


On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 at 18:28, John Smith via Groups.Io
<johnlinux77@...> wrote:

I saw in the code that the frequency upper and lower limit is preset in software. I am sure it could be set for your band permissions if someone wanted to. But how far out can it receive with it's hardware limitations? I would like to receive 10 Mhz for WWV clock for frequency calibration.


Re: Bitx 40 frequency limitations.

 

I'm intending to do the same. ?The 40m bandpass filter at L1,L2,L3 will block 10mhz. ?So was going to just put a wire across from the top of C1 to the top of C7. ?With no bandpass filter and assuming stock low-side vfo injection at 12-10=2mhz, we would get an image from any 12+2=14mhz station, but should work well enough.

Jerry, KE7ER

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:28 am, John Smith wrote:

I saw in the code that the frequency upper and lower limit is preset in software. I am sure it could be set for your band permissions if someone wanted to. But how far out can it receive with it's hardware limitations? I would like to receive 10 Mhz for WWV clock for frequency calibration.

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Re: Bitx 40 frequency limitations.

 

My BITX-40 works upto ?and including ?20 mtrs .. I've had to make new Bandpass and lowpass filters but the BITX-40 board work upto 15 MHz without any real modifications .. I'm using ?a Different VFO than the Raduino unit ..

Regards?

Marc 'Gw0wvl'...


On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 at 18:28, John Smith via Groups.Io
<johnlinux77@...> wrote:

I saw in the code that the frequency upper and lower limit is preset in software. I am sure it could be set for your band permissions if someone wanted to. But how far out can it receive with it's hardware limitations? I would like to receive 10 Mhz for WWV clock for frequency calibration.


Re: Getting stuck

 

Hello Jack,

may I ask you for a code validation?

I wanted to allow me to increase the tuning speed by pressing the button connected to A3.

So I made a modification to the doTuning function.

Seems to work, but I am not sure, if this has some flaws the way I did it. Could you please take a look at it and tell me what you think?

As you know, I am not yet familiar with coding Arduino sketches.

I attached my test sketch. Hope attaching workes.


BTW, there are warnings for every printLine1 and printLine2

E:\bitx40\raduino_new_library\raduino_new_library.ino:666:34: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to 'char*' [-Wwrite-strings]

? ? ?printLine1("Raduino v1.01");


I fugured out, that there must be some reason why it does not want a string as paramater for the function. So I changed all this calls for example from

printLine1("Raduino v1.01");

to

? strcpy(c, "Raduino v1.01");

? printLine1(c);

Now all warnings are gone and it still seems to work.

Do I have to do it again, after I download the next version of the official sketch or could someone "repair" the original sketch?

Helmut, OE4HDS



Bitx 40 frequency limitations.

 

I saw in the code that the frequency upper and lower limit is preset in software. I am sure it could be set for your band permissions if someone wanted to. But how far out can it receive with it's hardware limitations? I would like to receive 10 Mhz for WWV clock for frequency calibration.


Firmware on github does not agree with what was in Bitx40 as shipped

 

Tried the calibrate function using the firmware in a unit as shipped end of January. ?When I move a station up the dial by 1khz, the offset shown is -0235000. ?But at least when I am done calibrating it really is moved up the dial. ?Not sure if it successfully read back from EEPROM after a power down and retained the new calibration, didn't try that out.

I then updated the Raduino with the firmware from??using the adjustments for calls to the new Si5351 library. ?Totally different behavior with the github code. ?Offset for calibrate() is now conveniently displayed in Hz. ?But when I release the calibrate switch, the station is still where it was before. ?That's consistent with my reading of the code from github: ? The variable "cal" is local to function calibrate(), and no attempt is made to use it by doTuning() or setFrequency(). ?No call to si5351_set_correction(). ?

The github code executes this line in calibrate() just before writing to the EEPROM:

??cal = (cal * 10000000l) / frequency;

That looks nonsensical to me, though it may help explain the weird offset values that get displayed during calibrate() in the code as shipped.

I've wasted a couple days on this, and I suspect a dozen others have done so as well. ?Would be good if the code most people are using (the code in units getting shipped) could be posted to github. ?Meanwhile, I guess I write my own calibrate() and give up trying to understand what this stuff was supposed to do. ?The calibration procedure should include a step where we zero-beat the vfo to the bfo so we can measure where the analog bfo is. ?(That step won't be necessary if the Si5351 also drives the bfo.) ? Then after lining up with a station of known frequency as the current code does, calculate the vfo error in ppb for a call to Si5351.set_correction(). ?That makes the correction proportional to the Si5351 vfo frequency, not just an offset, and thus remains correct across multiple bands.

I now have the Bitx40 ordered on Jan 30 mostly working. ?But seeing just a few mW of 7mhz out to dummy load when whistling into the microphone, and R136 does not help. ?May need to ask John Smith for advice.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Sat, Feb 25, 2017 at 01:39 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote ?(in thread?Re: CW or not to CW?)

There's a lot of stuff in the code that is started but far from functional. ?Namely the USB/LSB stuff, RIT, TX switching, CW, LPF switching, and dual VFO's. ?And Calibrate is broken in ways other than just this business of not reading EEPROM in setup().

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WIKI misdirection

 

The "Building Guides" link on the WIKI directs back to the home page rather than the "Building Guides" page.?

Mike N.

K5ESS


Re: Basic Arduino Programming Knowledge

 

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Hello,

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Amazon has Beginning C for Arduino. Be careful that you order the second edition, Amazon shows both.

I Live in the Netherlands. Ordering it at Amazon.com in the States has a price tag of 44$, shipment to Europe adds at least 12-15 $. I ordered mine at Amazon.fr. The book was 29 Euros and shipment 6 euros. Delivery in about three days.

Perhaps Amazon.de has the same conditions.

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73, Cor ¨C PA4Q

Thanks a lot Jack for the detailed answer. That totally makes sense. Especially on a limited space environment, you have to be very carefully with resources. I use to program desktop applications, where that is not that important and so I prefere readability of the code over ewficiency. That's one of the main reasons I stick to Pascal (in my case Delphi) instead of moving to some kind of C. I like the readability and the clearity of the pascal source code.

Nevertheless I will take a look at your books and consider buying them. Hopefully they are available on Amazon.de or as ebook, because shipping from the US will probably be more expensive than the books themselfes.

?


Re: No uploads - support replied

Baruch Atta
 

Isn't there a monetizing or advertising option to Yahoo Groups that would pay for the extra storage?? No wonder Yahoo is going under.

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 10:37 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <econjack@...> wrote:
See below:

Jack, W8TEE


From: Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke=[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] No uploads - support replied

I'm perfectly fine with $1/yr, but that sort of thing will be tough to manage.? Exactly who should pay? Anyone who uses the site. Casual browsers interested in the Bitx? Yes, or give a 24 hour "browse free" ticket. Things like this make me think having our own site makes sense. Somebody who built one from scratch 10 years ago who takes it camping once a year and occasionally checks in??Yes.?Is this on the honor system, or do we keep a list somewhere of who paid so we can hound them off the list if they are regularly asking questions??Yes, we keep a list.?Who collects the money, and what happens if there's a shortfall/surplus??Yes, the Admin does and he can take $XX for his time. There should be plenty and as long as the site doesn't run out of room, I'm fine with whatever that person takes.?Getting 120 people to pass a dollar on through paypal every year for the next decade sounds like a real hassle, especially if interest starts to die a bit. Perhaps, but complaining in a vacuum is of no help to the solution of the problem. If the admin asks for 5 years up front, I don't have a problem with that, either.?The hfsigs pc board is a relatively new thing, but once the issues are sorted out and a wiki has answers easily available, traffic here may subside.?Yes, that's what happens. If so, the site will die a natural death.?What's the new limit, and how do we avoid exceeding it when folks start uploading high-res videos of their latest expedition? I don't know, but it would be nice to know how much additional space costs.
Accessing all the old photos and files from yahoo is easy enough, and everything could be archived on a thumb drive in case yahoo goes down.? Removing photos from that are more than a year old would solve this for a very long time if folks show some restraint.? Long term, we could use the wiki to curate what gets saved in files and photos here on . ??
Jerry, KE7ER ?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 05:57 am, Jack Purdum wrote:
In any event, I do think it's time to start charging for the nuggets we all find here.
?




Re: No uploads - support replied

Jack Purdum
 

See below:

Jack, W8TEE


From: Jerry Gaffke via Groups.Io <jgaffke@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:53 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] No uploads - support replied

I'm perfectly fine with $1/yr, but that sort of thing will be tough to manage. ?Exactly who should pay? Anyone who uses the site. Casual browsers interested in the Bitx? Yes, or give a 24 hour "browse free" ticket. Things like this make me think having our own site makes sense. Somebody who built one from scratch 10 years ago who takes it camping once a year and occasionally checks in??Yes.?Is this on the honor system, or do we keep a list somewhere of who paid so we can hound them off the list if they are regularly asking questions??Yes, we keep a list.?Who collects the money, and what happens if there's a shortfall/surplus??Yes, the Admin does and he can take $XX for his time. There should be plenty and as long as the site doesn't run out of room, I'm fine with whatever that person takes.?Getting 120 people to pass a dollar on through paypal every year for the next decade sounds like a real hassle, especially if interest starts to die a bit. Perhaps, but complaining in a vacuum is of no help to the solution of the problem. If the admin asks for 5 years up front, I don't have a problem with that, either.?The hfsigs pc board is a relatively new thing, but once the issues are sorted out and a wiki has answers easily available, traffic here may subside.?Yes, that's what happens. If so, the site will die a natural death.?What's the new limit, and how do we avoid exceeding it when folks start uploading high-res videos of their latest expedition? I don't know, but it would be nice to know how much additional space costs.
Accessing all the old photos and files from yahoo is easy enough, and everything could be archived on a thumb drive in case yahoo goes down. ?Removing photos from groups.io that are more than a year old would solve this for a very long time if folks show some restraint. ?Long term, we could use the wiki to curate what gets saved in files and photos here on groups.io. ??
Jerry, KE7ER ?

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 05:57 am, Jack Purdum wrote:
In any event, I do think it's time to start charging for the nuggets we all find here.
?



Re: Basic Arduino Programming Knowledge

Jack Purdum
 

No problem...keep me posted!

Jack, W8TEE



From: Helmut OE4HDS <hs@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Basic Arduino Programming Knowledge

Thanks a lot Jack for the detailed answer. That totally makes sense. Especially on a limited space environment, you have to be very carefully with resources. I use to program desktop applications, where that is not that important and so I prefere readability of the code over ewficiency. That's one of the main reasons I stick to Pascal (in my case Delphi) instead of moving to some kind of C. I like the readability and the clearity of the pascal source code.
Nevertheless I will take a look at your books and consider buying them. Hopefully they are available on Amazon.de or as ebook, because shipping from the US will probably be more expensive than the books themselfes.
Any way, thank you so much for all your effort you put in here.




Re: No uploads - support replied

 

That's very generous. ?But somehow we have to manage this stuff going forward or we will exceed the extended limits.


On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 06:49 am, Art Olson wrote:

I agree. Previous I offered to provide funding to the group. Offer still stands

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Re: Basic Arduino Programming Knowledge

 

Thanks a lot Jack for the detailed answer. That totally makes sense. Especially on a limited space environment, you have to be very carefully with resources. I use to program desktop applications, where that is not that important and so I prefere readability of the code over ewficiency. That's one of the main reasons I stick to Pascal (in my case Delphi) instead of moving to some kind of C. I like the readability and the clearity of the pascal source code.

Nevertheless I will take a look at your books and consider buying them. Hopefully they are available on Amazon.de or as ebook, because shipping from the US will probably be more expensive than the books themselfes.

Any way, thank you so much for all your effort you put in here.



Re: No uploads - support replied

 

I'm perfectly fine with $1/yr, but that sort of thing will be tough to manage. ?Exactly who should pay? ?Casual browsers interested in the Bitx? ?Somebody who built one from scratch 10 years ago who takes it camping once a year and occasionally checks in? ?Is this on the honor system, or do we keep a list somewhere of who paid so we can hound them off the list if they are regularly asking questions? ?Who collects the money, and what happens if there's a shortfall/surplus? ?Getting 120 people to pass a dollar on through paypal every year for the next decade sounds like a real hassle, especially if interest starts to die a bit. ?The hfsigs pc board is a relatively new thing, but once the issues are sorted out and a wiki has answers easily available, traffic here may subside. ?What's the new limit, and how do we avoid exceeding it when folks start uploading high-res videos of their latest expedition?

Accessing all the old photos and files from yahoo is easy enough, and everything could be archived on a thumb drive in case yahoo goes down. ?Removing photos from groups.io that are more than a year old would solve this for a very long time if folks show some restraint. ?Long term, we could use the wiki to curate what gets saved in files and photos here on groups.io. ??

Jerry, KE7ER ?


On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 05:57 am, Jack Purdum wrote:

In any event, I do think it's time to start charging for the nuggets we all find here.

?


Re: No uploads - support replied

 

Folks

I agree. Previous I offered to provide funding to the group. Offer still stands

73
Art
N2AJO

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 27, 2017, at 7:26 AM, Graham <planophore@...> wrote:

good day all,

I don't think attachments should go. They are an important and intuitive
part of using groups like this. Adding attachments are easy and having
them right there with the email and I can save those I want to keep. It
is far better than the Yahoo model where you had to go to yahoo to view
the attachments.

I think we are in general missing the real issue. This group has bumped
up against that limit more than once. The "limit" is the issue not
what we should or shouldn't keep. Once you start trying to trim away
some of "fat" you will end up constantly chasing your tail around
trying to "purge" and the more you do the more reluctant you get to
delete anything.

Todd and others have already suggested that the group fund itself in
order to support more storage space but there seems to the be an
underlying unspoken hesitation of many.

If I belong to 10 (or more) such groups on io and I contributed $1 per
year in order support the cost of extra storage then I would consider
that $10 well spent, not only do I benefit but so do others, perhaps
those others will benefit even more than I, so much the better.

Hans, Ashar - I think this is the direction the group needs to move
toward, not this round robin fussing over what bits of "stuff" to get
rid of every time the group reaches it's limit. There have been a
couple of suggestions of how the group can manage this but it doesn't
appear as though there has actually been any movement in getting there.
Perhaps IO groups needs to consider implementing some business model so
that groups such as this can easily pay for more storage.

respectfully,

cheers, Graham ve3gtc


On 2/27/2017, "Hans Summers" <hans.summers@...> wrote:

Hi Ken

Yes agreed, attachments should go... it can safely be assumed that the
sender didn't particularly intend these to be stored for ever. BUT,
deleting attachments is not easy. I asked the groups.io owner and he told
me that we have to go through the messages and delete the attachments. That
doesn't seem very practical. I will email him again now and ask for some
tool to do that.

73 Hans G0UPL




Re: Getting stuck

Jack Purdum
 

No. Throw out the entire switch/case statement block and just use the three lines I wrote instead. It should work as before. Write to me off group and I can send you the Fast Tune code. I'm okay in QRZ.com.

Jack, W8TEE



From: Eric Torraca <eric.torraca@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2017 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Getting stuck

Thanks Jack, I'll give your suggestions a try when I get home this afternoon.?
I notice your suggested code for the step change does not have the 'break' command. Does that mean it doesn't use the button? I haven't had a chance to look up your Fast Tune code yet, so sorry if it's covered there.?

73 de KB1VNA
Eric



Re: Getting stuck

 

Thanks Jack, I'll give your suggestions a try when I get home this afternoon.?

I notice your suggested code for the step change does not have the 'break' command. Does that mean it doesn't use the button? I haven't had a chance to look up your Fast Tune code yet, so sorry if it's covered there.?


73 de KB1VNA

Eric


Another Bitx40 on the air.

philip yates
 

Finally on a rare day off, have got it all connected up.

About 5W out for just over 1A, now to try and get a few contacts.


Phil G7BZD.