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Re: PC not seeingvthe Rafuino.

G4NQX
 

If you go to ports on ide menu does it show a list ?? Arduino? clones don't automatically come up in the menu so you have to select a port from the list that it's connected to.

To find which one, open Control Panel, System, Device Manager and look at Ports? without the Raduino plugged in.? Then look for a change in the ports that will show which one it is connected to when you plug it in.

Which version of IDE are you using? The latest version installs the CH341-SER usb driver but earlier ones don't.The driver is in the "BitX40 using new library" folder in files section, you may need to install that.

Have you tried programming any Arduinos yet under XP, it usually chickens out with one of many errors.


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Rob G4NQX


Re: BITX40 Serial Numbers

 

My BITX wd # 734 arrived at 02-06-2017 and was ordered at 01-13-2017. Was on hold by german customs for ELEVEN days... ! Bureaucrats !


Re: BITX40 Serial Numbers

Shlomo Goldstein
 

My BitX40 is number 213 - ordered on Dec. 12 and arrived on Jan. 23. It arrived in very good condition.
73,
Shlomo 4X4LF


PC not seeingvthe Rafuino.

 

Hi guys , I've got the Arduino IDE software on my PC, That seems to work fine as I can input sketches etc into my Arduino UNO ...But the Raduino Nano doesn't register, When I plug it into the PC the PC 'Dings' to show I've plug d something in, ?but when I go to the Arduino IDE and scroll down to devices S such as the Nano, Although I can select Nano from the menu it 'Doesn't show a port ' that the Nano is connected to, It does show ports on the UNO no problem ... Is there a programme I need extra to work the Nano in the Ide or should it automatically run like the UNO does ... Going around in circles here ...PC is running windows XP pro..

Thanks?

Marc 'Gw0wvl'..



Re: A few questions about BitX40

 

As for straight forward, beware of ground loops, you want star topology, not daisy chain.. You only want one grounding path between equipment. Directly connecting your computer causes a second connection to ground through the other piece of equipment. Look for more on the subject.?

But you could use a audio cable to line-in input to the radio from PC. You can use a USB sound card dongle with your software to line-in from USB port. And then there is a thing called "Easy Digi" kit on Ebay that does DB9 serial port. You could make it yourself for much less, if that's your thing. It does all the isolation for you. Isolation is also good for protection during storms.

But as for making it work on Bitx 40 SSB... I don't know really. Look near the top for the spy glass search button and wear it out. There has been much discussion already about almost everything. And come back when you can tell me how you did it.?

Plus, someone will probably tell us all about it in a day or two.


A few questions about BitX40

 

Hi folks.

I just got my license last weekend so I've ordered a BitX40 kit as my first foray into amateur HF. Probably not the ideal starting point but it's all I can afford at the moment.

So I have some questions about it:

Digital control
Are there any mods to enable digital control of the VFO and PTT? I'd like to play with digital modes like JT65 and it seems it should be pretty easy to get something sent over serial or USB to the Raduino to read or change frequency and mode. PTT should also be straightforward.

USB?
Does the board do USB? JT65 bucks the usual practice of switching to LSB below 10MHz and uses USB everywhere.


Re: Rarduino WAY off Freq ... there is more

 

The Si5351 library may assume it is the only i2c master, and thus ok to drive the SCL clock both high and low. ?So might be safer to short SDA at Nano pin 8 to ground, or find some way to halt the Nano completely. ? (Though shorting either pin to ground is probably ok.)


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 08:34 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:

could try shorting pin 9 to ground while it is working, this is fair to do since it is an open-drain signal,

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Re: Rarduino WAY off Freq ... there is more

 

I don't know of anything inside the Si5351 that might cause a pause every 38ms like that. ?Could be the Nano is off the rails, and continuously reprogramming the Si5351. ?Look at pins 8 and 9 of the Nano with your scope, which are the i2c clock and data for programming the Si5351. ?I'd expect them to be quiet if you aren't tuning the radio. ?If they are not quiet, could try shorting pin 9 to ground while it is working, this is fair to do since it is an open-drain signal, shorting to ground should keep the Nano from successfully writing to the Si5351. See if that pause is still happening when pin 9 is shorted to ground.

Nobody else is reporting this problem, so it probably isn't the library. ?I was seeing a factor of 4 on the VFO freq in Allard's problem also, thought that might be related. ?But I'm pretty sure Allard's problem has now been figured out. ?This one I'm still guessing on.


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 07:56 pm, Goran VE6GPO wrote:

I'm still hoping that this is software related problem,

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Re: Rarduino WAY off Freq ... there is more

 

Hi all,

my Bitx40 is good with analogue VFO. Now, I'm finding more curious things with the Raduino's Si5351. When I was looking at the waveform, noticed some intermittent glitches at the bottom part. I was able to trigger at some undershoots, changed time base and found that there is a brief pause in the generated waveform of about 740 us (microseconds), and that pause repeats itself every 38 ms.

I'm still hoping that this is software related problem, I just didn't have time to try different libraries, as Jerry suggested earlier. Also, I hope that someone who know this creature (Si5351, HI) little better might have better clue of what's going on here.

Thanks,

Goran VE6GPO


Re: interference from SW broadcasters above 7200

 

Jerry I measured it this morning!

500Hz shift in VFO produces a shift of 2500 Hz in the birdie!

As the frequency shifts even more the birdie goes way beyond the 3KHz limit as I would imagine. Guess it is mixing somewhere and produces a beat not on either side of the zero!

Cheers
Raj

But I think the birdie most folks are seeing at 7.2mhz is independent from these image signals. The birdie is likely the 5'th harmonic of the VFO mixing with the 2'ed harmonic of the BFO, with possible fixes as per post 21941. 5*(12-7.2) = 2*12 This could be verified by determining how fast the tone of the birdie changes as the VFO frequency is advanced, should be 5 times as fast as a normal 40m signal. Remarkable that both issues zero in on 7.2mhz like that.

Jerry


Re: Watch the birdie

 

You have to calculate with 11.9985 Mhz and not 12!

Cheers
Raj

At 14-02-2017, you wrote:
Hi all

A thought... supersets often suffer birdies due to the multiple oscillators involved.?

When you are receiving on 7.2MHz the VFO is on 4.8MHz. The 5th harmonic of 4.8MHz is 24MHz.

The BITX40 BFO is on 12MHz. The 2nd harmonic of 12MHz is also 24MHz.

Unless you have good supply filtering between stages, and shielding of stages... then it seems to me that somewhere in this sensitive receiver, that VFO 5th harmonic can easily mix with the BFO 2nd harmonic and create the heard birdie.

73 Hans G0UPL?


Re: interference from SW broadcasters above 7200

 

Eighth harmonic of the 12mhz BFO is at 96mhz, which is the fifth harmonic of a VFO at 19.2mhz. ?So the we might still have a faint birdie at 19.2 - 12 = (drum roll) 7.2mhz.?


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 04:11 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:

Another fix would be to move the VFO from 5mhz to 19mhz, ?... ?Fixes both the birdie at 7.2mhz from the 5'th harmonic of the VFO and the image problem from the 4'th harmonic of the VFO. ?

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Re: Watch the birdie

 

Try shortening the length of the wire going from the vfo to the board, and also make sure to put some decoupling capacitors on the power supply to the vfo (raduino etc). I added a some decoupling caps and it reduced the birdie quite a bit. L4 and the trimmer cap next to it have already been removed on my board. I didn't have a birdie when it was analog.
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Ryan Flowers KC7RYS?


Re: interference from SW broadcasters above 7200

 

Another fix would be to move the VFO from 5mhz to 19mhz, then adjust the BFO down 3khz by adding capacitance at C103 (assuming you still want lower sideband operation). ?If that's confusing, then read that other thread where the bunch of women were talking: ??/g/BITX20/message/21911

Fixes both the birdie at 7.2mhz from the 5'th harmonic of the VFO and the image problem from the 4'th harmonic of the VFO. ?With a 19mhz VFO those harmonics are up in the low VHF, and nothing near them should be getting past the 7mhz bandpass-filter at L1,L2,L3. ?If the local TV stations are sneaking in, then time to start collecting tuna fish cans for use as shielding. ?Would be hard to get an analog VFO stable enough at 19mhz, but the Si5351 should do fine.

Oh, and ask John Smith how to adjust R136 to compensate for the greater losses at the diode ring mixer when transmitting with a 19mhz VFO: ?/g/BITX20/message/21948

Jerry, KE7ER



On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 02:27 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:

with possible fixes as per post ?21941.

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Re: Red led for TX indication - where?

 

My BITX40 board has 2 Virtual VRS2H-S-12VDC relays.

These are Form 2C relays. However, they are somewhat unlike most Form 2 relays that I am familiar with.
Most of the Form 2 relays that I know have the common input to the center pin of the contacts, i.e.,
the center pin feeds the contacts and the relay action switches between each of the other two pins.

This relay feeds the input to the outer pin with the other two pins as the contacts.

The coil is the same, the two pins further away at one end of the relay.

Hence for the Virtual Relay, pins 1 and 16 are the coil. These are schematic pins 8 and 9.

Only one set of contacts is used to provide power. These are Virtual pins 4, 6, and 8, with pin 8 being the input,
pin 6 the RX out and pin 8 the TX out. The other set of contacts (9, 11, 13) are used to provide a ground for the
RX antenna line during TX and continuity for the RX antenna during receive. (schematic pins 15 and 16).
The schematic lists pin 5 as providing power to the RX/TX contacts (pin 5) with the output pins as RX (pin 3) and TX (pin 1).

If this is confusing, it should be a little. Essentially this is a Type 2C DPDT relay. The difference is that the input
pins are the two on the end of the relay and not those in the middle (which is what most people know).

Whoever made the relay on your board, the configuration is the same. It is not quite the same as the Omron
standard we all are used to...

As far as the configuration of D7 goes, I note that Gian provided a schematic which is different from the "official" one.
He has the diode connected around the relay coil and not to ground. This makes sense if the line at the anode
of D7/C130 is connected to the top of C130A, and not the bottom. I am not quite sure. My board appears to have D7/C130
connected to the board ground...

john
AD5YE


Re: BIX20

 

There are a number of BitX 20 kits available but you need to build them yourself. The BitX40 semi kit that is being sold by HFSIGS should be modifyable to 20 meters but I have not seen any details yet of the mods. Having a 12Mhz IF and working on 14Mhz may be problematic (I dont know but others may be able to advise you) You would have to reprogram the DDS for operation at 26 Mhz I suppose.


VE7BEE has modified a BitX40 to operate on 80 meters and I believe he is working on another and modding it for 160 meters. He is probably a good one to ask about 20 meter modding a BitX40.

Good luck
--
Mike VK3XL


BIX20

 

Can any one tell me how can I order a 20 mts version of the qrp set? Or are all 40's and one has to make mods in self. Thanks. Fernando.


Re: Watch the birdie

 

I just lifted one end of the coil from the board. ?L4 was super glued to the board and I could not get to the other wire. ?In any event birdie gone...



Re: interference from SW broadcasters above 7200

 

Should read ? "12-7.1=4.9mhz"

In this case, a 7.1 mhz signal comes in from the antenna, is mixed with the 4.9mhz vfo. ?The sum is 12mhz, which can slide through that crystal filter unscathed and mix with our 12mhz bfo. ? As it should.

But the 4'th harmonic of the 4.9mhz vfo is also present at the mixer, and is at 4*4.9mhz = 19.6mhz. ?So some incoming 7.6mhz signal can mix with that 19.6mhz, the difference is 12mhz, and can also get by the crystal filter to mix with the 12mhz bfo. ?And we receive an unwanted image from 7.6mhz when tuning the radio to 7.1mhz.

Jerry



On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 02:27 pm, Jerry Gaffke wrote:

12=7.1=4.9mhz,

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Re: interference from SW broadcasters above 7200

 

Good job, you nailed it! ?

For example, tuning to 7.1mhz, the vfo is at 12=7.1=4.9mhz, the 4'th harmonic of which is 4*4.9= 19.6mhz. ?That's up where we would put the VFO if we wanted to switch to the upper sideband, as discussed in that other thread. ?And the signal we receive would be from 19.6=12 = 7.6mhz.

If we try to receive 7.2mhz, the extra signal we receive is at 4*(12-7.2) - 12 = 7.2mhz. ?So we receive it twice, in LSB mode and in USB mode. ?Very weird.

But I think the birdie most folks are seeing at 7.2mhz is independent from these image signals. ?The birdie is likely the 5'th harmonic of the VFO mixing with the 2'ed harmonic of the BFO, with possible fixes as per post ?21941. ? ?5*(12-7.2) = 2*12 ? ?This could be verified by determining how fast the tone of the birdie changes as the VFO frequency is advanced, should be 5 times as fast as a normal 40m signal. ?Remarkable that both issues zero in on 7.2mhz like that.

Jerry


On Mon, Feb 13, 2017 at 01:35 pm, Cor Beijersbergen wrote:

If you take the VFO frequency that goes with the image frequency, multiply that by 4 and mix it with the true frequency of the incoming broadcast station you get something very near the BFO frequency.

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