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Re: Possible PA low output problem. Problem SOLVED

 

Good to hear you got it working again. ?Pretty cool! Not many people can get an RF burn from 5 Watts. ?You might have some other ham look over how you have that antenna set up. ?(OK, I now see Raj has offered to do just that, very nice of him.) ?Or draw a diagram up showing all the wires and labeling all the parts. ?And tie the Bitx40 ground to earth ground, perhaps the ground pin of an electrical outlet. ?(We used to look for a cold water pipe, but they are all plastic now.) ? ?

Jerry, KE7ER


On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:41 pm, John Smith wrote:

Hey, something new for ya.?I got an RF burn on my lip from the mic.

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Re: Possible PA low output problem. Problem SOLVED

 

John,

RF burn tells me that you antenna plug/jack and/or your coax connector shield is not connected. Please check thoroghly!
You can't have RF floating around on the board to cause a burn!

Please take a high res photo and send it to me on my email ID, let me see if I spot something. You never know.

Cheers
Raj

At 11/02/2017, you wrote:

Hey, something new for ya. I got an RF burn on my lip from the mic. This didn't happen with the old one. Any ideas? My antenna is grounded with a coax choke balun at the feed point.. When I enclose it I can connect it to the bus bar.

I am really sick and tired of this thing. I got too invested, and couldn't stop. I need a vacation!


Re: Possible PA low output problem. Problem SOLVED

 

Hey, Jerry, ?never felt like it was getting enough audio power to the final amplifier. That's why I was still chasing the white rabbit. I just wanted to share with you and the others that I replaced the PA again, the diodes with 1N4148's, and the microphone. The PA was burned out. I went with the other diodes because of almost same forward voltage drop as the SMD part. At this point it was louder and higher wattage into the dummy load. And it still wasn't drawing much current, like 240mA, we've already established my meter isn't fast enough to show peak current. And it still sounded like I was talking into a fan, so I swapped the mic out too. It sounds better now.

I have been careful not to screw around with it because it wasn't working right early on. But after my last post I kinda felt like it's broken now, go ahead and try something. So I followed Toms solution, fixed the PA, changed the mic out with one of the same size. And now I think it's fixed better than the last time I thought it was fixed. And I am not going to tell ya about the whole trace I lifted between the PA center pin and corner of the closest toroid ?and had to jumper the connection on the back side of the board. Remember, I considered it broken.?

Hey, something new for ya. I got an RF burn on my lip from the mic. This didn't happen with the old one. Any ideas? My antenna is grounded with a coax choke balun at the feed point.. When I enclose it I can connect it to the bus bar.

I am really sick and tired of this thing. I got too invested, and couldn't stop. I need a vacation!


Re: BITX40 Intermittent power connector

N1EBQ@ARRL.NET
 

When my kit arrives I'll use Powerpoles with a 1462G1 mount. Thanks for the heads up.

73 ?Bruce ?N1EBQ



Re: BITX40

Mvs Sarma
 

David,
?your IK3OIL would work much better, after you do the mods suggested by RAJ. We have to first bring the LO? close to wanted frequency and then close the FLL to? o lock to wanted frequency. Otherwise too,? the locking happens with delay and jitter might increase.


On Saturday, 11 February 2017 10:01 AM, Raj vu2zap <vu2zap@...> wrote:


David,

You can stabilise the analog VFO to a great level.

Change all the capacitors from C91-96 to type C0G and the trimmer C93 to a Murata equivalent.
Use only C0G or NP0 - X7R and similar will not do.

Use a 100K 10 turn bourns pot for tuning.

When you got things under control, glue the yellow toroid down.

My board is very stable and much more stable than projects I have built in the past.

Cheers
Raj



>Also is it possible to buy the Raduino board separately?
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>Great project.....
>
>Thanks
>
>David G3RYP







Re: BITX40

 

David,

You can stabilise the analog VFO to a great level.

Change all the capacitors from C91-96 to type C0G and the trimmer C93 to a Murata equivalent.
Use only C0G or NP0 - X7R and similar will not do.

Use a 100K 10 turn bourns pot for tuning.

When you got things under control, glue the yellow toroid down.

My board is very stable and much more stable than projects I have built in the past.

Cheers
Raj

Also is it possible to buy the Raduino board separately?

Great project.....

Thanks

David G3RYP


Re: Rarduino WAY off Freq

 

Hi all,

My Bitx40 arrived couple days ago and now I've got some time to play around. Decided to start with Raduino first, wired the tuning pot, and put the scope probe on brown and red wires (VFO out). I see a square wave of about 3.3 Vpp, but frequency is only 1.055 MHz when display shows 7.0000 LSB. When I go up to 7.5000 LSB, I see the output of 950 kHz. This obviously is not correct. Raduino shows version 1.01 on power up. Does anyone have any explanation for this behaviour? I'll try to reload the sketch, but first have to sort out the compile error messages due to new version of the etherkit library ... aarghh. I'll continue tomorrow ...

73


BITX40

 

Having bought an early version without the Raduino I tried the FLL by IK3OIL. I made a small board fitting under the VFO section which contains a varicap (giving about 15khz swing from 9 to 5 volts) and a buffer amplifier. This works ok. The FLL waits for 30 seconds before locking at which point a LED goes off and the system locks. However after a few minutes the LED lights and lock is lost and I have to power off to get it going again. There is a reference in the documentation about this which I don't understand. The PWM duty cycle has been exceeded.?

Anybody got any ideas?

Also is it possible to buy the Raduino board separately?

Great project.....

Thanks

David G3RYP


Re: BITX40 Power question???

 

Farhan's in here somewhere saying that the board's designed for 13.8V nominal with a max of 15.

/g/BITX20/message/18201?p=Created,,,20,1,0,0::Relevance,,voltage,20,2,0,4105151

You can run one of the lithium variants as long as you don't fully charge them. ?Since lithium cobalt (typical 'LiPo' cells) hold much of their energy at higher voltage, you'll lose capacity. ?If you want to run lithium, run LiFePO4 - it has a flat discharge curve, carries most of its energy at around 3.2V per cell, and you'll have about 90% capacity/run time if you run it between 10 and 14V in a 4S string.

73

Andy


Re: Bitx40 Circuit Diagnosis How To?

 

Thank you very much for your help!

I made a list of the resistors in the three blocks of the circuit, and using the schematic tested and wrote down the resistance from the component on either side of the resistor.? I was able to find a cold solder joint in R45, which was fixed with a little bit of heat.? I went back and checked the Q voltages and things look much better with Q1-3 and Q4-6 all giving similar results.? The audio sounds good and seems stable.? I am very happy with the receiver so I call the receiver fixed.

There is no change in the transmit problem, unfortunately.? I don't believe I ever transmitted with this radio earlier, so I don't know for sure if it worked originally.

The relay clicks, and I hear a hum while transmitting, but no output showing on the swr/power meter.


Re: Possible PA low output problem. Problem SOLVED

 

First off, out of curiosity, are you swapping out that dual diode for any particular reason? ?There's one confirmed case of that part causing low power output, if that's what you are chasing. ?But dozens of different reasons power output might be low. ?You generally want to figure out a problem before randomly replacing parts.

Sounds like you blew the IRF510. ?Can't imagine how changing out those diodes would do that. ?Maybe you went and touched something else too? ?If you can remember what that was, that could be a clue here. ? Monitor current into the rig, main power and PA 12v too. ?I think it should be on the order of 100ma for receive, maybe 300ma? on transmit with no audio into the mike. ?If it's much more, see what's getting hot. ?Glad I'm not in the same room. ?Hope you're wearing safety glasses. ?Did you ever get a 50 ohm 5 watt dummy load of some sort? ?You really need one. ?Hope you haven't yet gotten around to reversing the +/- leads from your power supply, that could fry most of the rig.

Those 1n60's will likely work well enough. ?1n4148's might be a safer bet, since they have been getting used in Bitx's for over a decade. ?The 100 ohm pot is used to balance out the residual carrier if the diodes aren't quite matched. ?I wouldn't bother with that till everything is working, if then.?

Need an ace in the hole? ?Buy another Bitx40. ?You'd be in for $118, still cheaper than any alternative. ?And have a whole bunch of spare parts. ?You've gotten way more than $59 worth of education out of it already.

I must say, you are at least persistent.

Jerry, KE7ER


On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 04:44 pm, John Smith wrote:

Come on Jerry, you got any more ace's left??

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Re: BITX40 K7AGE Video of Resources

Guy N7BIR
 

Randy -Great video resource! ?The BitX has come a long ways since I bought mine from Doug Hendricks four years ago. I saw you had other videos, so I know how I'm going to spend my Friday night right after I build my Marker Generator kit that I just got in the mail from QRPGuys.com.?

73, Guy N7BIR



Re: Possible PA low output problem. Problem SOLVED

 

So, I replaced the dual diode with two 1n60 observing polarity and checking continuity at the unused pads before starting. Now it would not power up until I disconnected the PA power line. I had to power the PA separately to get the board and Raduino to come on. While testing the PA current levels, it was more than 200mA constant. And I mean constant. Not even a jump on the watt meter when keying the mic. The only other thing you need to know is, I adjusted the Bias while listening to the TX signal and it shutdown the last time I ran it. Just like it did after changing the PA and had to turn it down 25% to run. Come on Jerry, you got any more ace's left??


Re: Click on keying ptt

 

Thanks Gian,
I will give it a try when I have time!
73, Allard


Re: interference from SW broadcasters above 7200

 

Aargh! Just found that on my BITX40, the torroid L4 was still in place - it should be removed when the raduino is connected to the DDS input.
So I removed it and now (most of) the AM carriers are gone. One problem less.
What is strange though, is that I am now receiving an extremely loud constant carrier on 7199 kHz. When the antenna is disconnected it remains equally strong so it must be internal to the BITX. I guess it comes from the raduino. Do any other raduino users have this issue?
73, Allard PE1NWL


BITX40 K7AGE Video of Resources

 

Hi

Links are in the video's comment section.

Please let know of other resources.

73

Randy, K7AGE



Re: Click on keying ptt

 

Hi Allard,

please find a suggested trial circuit to move pin 7 on LM386 to '12V. This circuit will be controlled directly from the PTT.

No problem should result on the LM386. Taking pin 7 to +Vcc 12V will increase the voltage across pins 8 and 1 reducing the LM386 gain.

I hope the fix will work, contrary enjoy the soldering ... hi

73

Gian
I7SWX


Re: Possible PA low output problem. Problem SOLVED

 

To:?G4NQX post# 21853

I measured the forward voltage drop of the smd dual diode and got 336mV in circuit, then 1n4148 on a strip and got 864mV, finally a 1n60 with 350mV. Which one of these through hole diodes is the better replacement choice? I am thinking about the original design with a trim pot and smd 1n4148's. What was the value of the trimmer? And how to adjust it? Or is it better to string two through hole diodes between the empty smd pads for D15 and D16 and the big hole for the center pin of the trim pot, observing polarity as marked on the board?

After chasing the white rabbit this far down the hole, I have become cautious and hesitant. It sounds like we're almost there on this.


Re: Testing VFO A, VFO B, RIT, USB, CW options in sketch code

 

USB output is lower because the Raduino flips from LSB to USB by moving the VFO from 5mhz to 19mhz, either of which when mixed with the incoming 7mhz result in a 12mhz product that can pass the IF filter. ? 5+7=12mhz ? 19-7=12mhz. ? Various parts, especially the diode ring mixer, may have less response at 19mhz than 5mhz. ?A better way to flip from LSB to USB is to move the BFO. ?Currently that is crytal controlled, and involves hacking L5 and C103. ?Using a second Si5351 channel to generate the BFO would allow the Raduino to control the BFO frequency. ?Moving the BFO up a few khz from 11.9985mhz to 12.0015mhz would flip the Bitx40 from LSB to USB, the VFO remaining at 5mhz. ?For now, perhaps you can just increase the drive level at R137 when transmitting on USB with the VFO at 19mhz. ?Yes, I'd bet it also affects RX. ?Though not all that noticeable, as the receiver has an incredible dynamic range. ?


On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 11:44 am, <KD2BBW@...> wrote:

That sucks USB output is lower. I wonder if it also affects RX as well?

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Re: Testing VFO A, VFO B, RIT, USB, CW options in sketch code

Thomas Noel
 

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Perhaps need to shift the frequency slightly to place output correctly in BPF or LPF?

Thomas W Noel
KF7RSF

On Feb 10, 2017, at 11:44 AM, KD2BBW@... wrote:

That sucks USB output is lower. I wonder if it also affects RX as well?