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Re: zBitx power draw

 

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Yep, sure did, it arrived yesterday.

Can't do the initial setup w/o sighted assistance though, so have to wait until I can get some help with that, but after that's done, I can certainly either use it at the terminal command line, or use the web interface to operate the radio.? Likely the web interface would be easiest until I can work out how to get it talking on it's own.? Likely I'll need to remove it from the case, and swap out the pico for another pi that can handle the speech generation, then I won't need to use the web interface anymore.? It would be really nice being able to use the radio directly from the unit without having to hook up/connect to additional pieces.


On 5/9/2025 11:35 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:

Ooh, did you order one of these?!?


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On May 9, 2025, at 6:37?PM, Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...> wrote:

Sorry to change the subject (slightly), but I'd like to know how far outside the specs in the manual we can go with power adapters.? The zbitx manual says 6-9 volts is preferred.? Will a 5V or a 10V supply break the radio? I have both of these, and was wondering which one (if either) I could use on the radio.? Failing that, what kind of setup would I need to attach a 12-volt deep cycle battery (taken from a power scooter) to the radio.? My wife had two of these batteries for her power chair, but it has since stopped working.? I use them directly to power my yaesu 857, and it works just fine, but since that radio doesn't transmit, I'd like to try using them on the zbitx.? Would I need a voltage regulator to reduce power to 6-9 volts, or can it handle the 12 volts directly?

The manual says we need 6-9 volts, with at least 3A for the radio, but I'm hoping there's some wiggle room in there, because I'm hard pressed to find such an adapter already lying around here.? I'll have to go find one on amazon or something, but until then, can I use either of the above mentioned supplies w/o fear of burning up the radio?









About ready to order

 

Ashhar,
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could you please help with a couple of questions regarding radio ordering status.
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- Will the latest software updates (e.g. CW improvements) be included on zBitx orders placed now?
- Are there any hardware updates anticipated (and if possible, on what schedule)?
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Thank you.
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Mike
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Re: Raspberry Pi desktop on internal display

 

HI! I would like to have an option to turn off the LCD and RP pico. This way it would work with an external monitor with less noise and lower power consumption.


Ryan Wesolowski via <cosmo1stgen=[email protected]> ezt ¨ªrta (id?pont: 2025. m¨¢j. 10., Szo 19:18):

I have run mine multiple times without the display connected via no machine.
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Ryan
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Re: Raspberry Pi desktop on internal display

 

I have run mine multiple times without the display connected via no machine.
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Ryan
Kk6dzb


Re: Raspberry Pi desktop on internal display

 

I installed nomachine on my zbitx and on my cell phone so I can run the desktop without a HDMI
monitor attached. A little small compared to a full size monitor but it works for me.

A question for the group.

Since there is a noise issue with the zbitx display and current draw while receiving, will the zbitx boot if I remove the display board from the box and run it headless or does the display board have to be present for the zbitx to work?


Leo, AI5II


On Sat, May 10, 2025, 10:57?AM Joerg DB2OO via <db2oo.ju=[email protected]> wrote:
On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 02:24 AM, N7IHQ wrote:
Could the zBitx display Pico code be modified to show the Raspberry Pi desktop on the internal display?
The short answer is NO.
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The long answer:
Currently the sBitx code on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W communicates through a custom protocol via I2C to the Raspberry Pi Pico, that controls the display.
This protocol exchanges information between the two, that is sBitx/zBitx specific, e.g. through commands like "change frequency to x", "change band to y", "go to transmit", ...
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In contrast to that, the operating system running on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W controls a display through a display specific driver, that controls how the pixels on the screen are created.
By default this driver controls the HDMI output in the integrated graphics HW for that.
You can instruct the operating system to use a different driver for display purposes, but there is NO driver for this very specific combination of Raspberries connected through I2C.
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You would have to write the drivers on both Raspberry sides (Zeor 2W and Pi Pico), which would be a huge effort and contradict to the idea, to create a low cost system with the zBitx.
Moreover it would not be fun, to run a desktop on a a 480x320 pixel display...
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For a little bit more money there are 2 solutions:
  • the sBitx leveraging the video connector on the Raspberry Pi4 together with the appropriate display,
  • alternatively connect a display to the HDMI conector. This display could also be a small 7" or 10" HDMI display, which could get its power through USB. Keyboard could be Bluetooth connected.
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73, Joerg - DB2OO


Re: How to turn off FT8 TX sound on zBitx

 

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Thank you! This works. Didn¡¯t want to upset other members of the household?

On May 9, 2025, at 10:36?PM, HA8LKT Laci via groups.io <lhancz@...> wrote:

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HI LI. Set SIDETONE 0.

HA8LK, Laci


Li Cao via <licao081=[email protected]> ezt ¨ªrta (id?pont: 2025. m¨¢j. 10., Szo 4:29):
Hi!
I¡¯m wondering how to turn the sound off? Thanks!
Li KQ4EXQ





Re: Raspberry Pi desktop on internal display

 

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Joerg explained very well why this isn't possible, but I'm curious why you want that option?

I *think* (or maybe *suspect*) that you get the RPi Zero 2 W desktop on an external device via WiFi and, say, VNC, and that would be vastly superior to a desktop with the tiny resolution the zBitx display offers.

Ken, N2VIP

On May 9, 2025, at 20:24, N7IHQ via groups.io <n7ihq@...> wrote:

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Could the zBitx display Pico code be modified to show the Raspberry Pi desktop on the internal display?


Re: Raspberry Pi desktop on internal display

 

On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 02:24 AM, N7IHQ wrote:
Could the zBitx display Pico code be modified to show the Raspberry Pi desktop on the internal display?
The short answer is NO.
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The long answer:
Currently the sBitx code on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W communicates through a custom protocol via I2C to the Raspberry Pi Pico, that controls the display.
This protocol exchanges information between the two, that is sBitx/zBitx specific, e.g. through commands like "change frequency to x", "change band to y", "go to transmit", ...
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In contrast to that, the operating system running on the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W controls a display through a display specific driver, that controls how the pixels on the screen are created.
By default this driver controls the HDMI output in the integrated graphics HW for that.
You can instruct the operating system to use a different driver for display purposes, but there is NO driver for this very specific combination of Raspberries connected through I2C.
?
You would have to write the drivers on both Raspberry sides (Zeor 2W and Pi Pico), which would be a huge effort and contradict to the idea, to create a low cost system with the zBitx.
Moreover it would not be fun, to run a desktop on a a 480x320 pixel display...
?
For a little bit more money there are 2 solutions:
  • the sBitx leveraging the video connector on the Raspberry Pi4 together with the appropriate display,
  • alternatively connect a display to the HDMI conector. This display could also be a small 7" or 10" HDMI display, which could get its power through USB. Keyboard could be Bluetooth connected.
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73, Joerg - DB2OO


Re: add a wifi network to zbitx

 

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I just added my phone to the Wifi config using the desktop. It now recognizes both my home network and my phone mobile hotspot. Had to reboot the zBitx to switch between the networks though.

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73 Frank PA3CNO

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Onderwerp: Re: [BITX20] add a wifi network to zbitx

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Consider setting up your phone hotspot with the same SSID and PWD as home; you're about never going to use your hotspot while at home....

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Re: zBitx power draw

 

Thanks, Richard for adding.? ?Certainly diodes in SERIES will drop the voltage by approximately 0.7V each (if silicon diodes)

In parallel, it is a little different because the diodes are NON LINEAR devices and have a very small effective dynamic resistance once they have reached their threshold.? ?So putting 4 or 5 1N4007's together in parallel is still likely to have a total voltage drop of about 0.7V from 1/2 ampere all the way to 3 or 4 amperes, at normal temperatures.? ?At very high temperatures, the voltage drop might be a little less (the opposite of wires).? ??

As you point out, I've used series diodes more than once to protect a device rated at 9V? (a wifi router, for example) from a 14 V source (a lifepo4 battery).

I just dont' think it is worth tempting fate when the designer has put a lot of work into making a piece of equipment and specifies which voltages he designed it for.? ?Biasing circuits are often somewhat voltage dependent, as can be idling currents, and dissipations in regulators.? ?You can TRY running a gasoline engine on Diesel...but not for long!

73
Gordon KX4Z


On Sat, May 10, 2025 at 8:21?AM Richard Spohn via <wb2gxm=[email protected]> wrote:
To be clear: diodes in parallel will lessen the voltage drop, same as with resistors in parallel. Diodes in series will increase the drop, ie one silicon diode will drop the voltage by 0.7v, two will drop the voltage by 1.4v, etc.

On Fri, May 9, 2025, 8:05 PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
It might be OK with 10 V but it¡¯s so easy to get that down to 9.3 or so that why not?? Find yourself four or 5 A worth of silicon diodes (either in one of them or in several in parallel) and use it to drop the voltage from 10 to 9.3!

Then you can feel pretty secure and be using one of the batteries you wanted to use. Let somebody else do the experiments on their radio, I wouldn¡¯t do it on mine. The manufacturer has told you what he¡¯s looking for!? He calculated all of the bias points in current based on the voltages he recommended

Those are just my opinions. I¡¯m sure other people will differ.

Gordon kx4z
> On May 9, 2025, at 18:51, Travis Siegel via <tsiegel=[email protected]> wrote:
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> ?Sorry to change the subject (slightly), but I'd like to know how far outside the specs in the manual we can go with power adapters.? The zbitx manual says 6-9 volts is preferred.? Will a 5V or a 10V supply break the radio? I have both of these, and was wondering which one (if either) I could use on the radio.? Failing that, what kind of setup would I need to attach a 12-volt deep cycle battery (taken from a power scooter) to the radio.? My wife had two of these batteries for her power chair, but it has since stopped working.? I use them directly to power my yaesu 857, and it works just fine, but since that radio doesn't transmit, I'd like to try using them on the zbitx.? Would I need a voltage regulator to reduce power to 6-9 volts, or can it handle the 12 volts directly?
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> The manual says we need 6-9 volts, with at least 3A for the radio, but I'm hoping there's some wiggle room in there, because I'm hard pressed to find such an adapter already lying around here.? I'll have to go find one on amazon or something, but until then, can I use either of the above mentioned supplies w/o fear of burning up the radio?
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Re: FT8 time differential - how to resolve?

 

Miguel,

It is not necessary to install? any newer version of hamlib as the wsjt-z configure script will check if hamlib is installed and use whatever version it finds.

Leo, AI5II

On Fri, May 9, 2025, 9:28?PM miguel medina via <tech5022=[email protected]> wrote:

Hello Leo,

Thanks in advance - every answer seems to lead to more questions (lol)!

I¡¯m working on upgrading and switching some software, and I could use a bit of clarification:

  1. Hamlib upgrade ¨C If I install version 4.5.4, will it override my existing Hamlib v4, or will I end up with two separate instances? Do I need to manually remove the older version before installing the new one?

  2. WSJT-Z vs WSJT-X ¨C From what I understand, WSJT-Z might install as a separate program. Do I need to uninstall WSJT-X, or can both coexist? What¡¯s the best practice here?

  3. Setting WSJT-Z as default ¨C Once WSJT-Z is installed, how can I make it my default? Also, will it work with the ZBITX display?

  4. Removing older versions ¨C If it turns out I do need to remove Hamlib v4 or WSJT-X, what¡¯s the proper way to do that (especially to avoid breaking dependencies)?

Appreciate any help or tips from those who¡¯ve gone through this!

73,
Miguel KP4MI


Re: zBitx power draw

 

When calculating transmitter power efficiency of a transceiver, on usually subtracts out the idle power requirements of receive mode.
73, Ron, n6ywu


Re: zBitx power draw

 

To be clear: diodes in parallel will lessen the voltage drop, same as with resistors in parallel. Diodes in series will increase the drop, ie one silicon diode will drop the voltage by 0.7v, two will drop the voltage by 1.4v, etc.


On Fri, May 9, 2025, 8:05 PM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:
It might be OK with 10 V but it¡¯s so easy to get that down to 9.3 or so that why not?? Find yourself four or 5 A worth of silicon diodes (either in one of them or in several in parallel) and use it to drop the voltage from 10 to 9.3!

Then you can feel pretty secure and be using one of the batteries you wanted to use. Let somebody else do the experiments on their radio, I wouldn¡¯t do it on mine. The manufacturer has told you what he¡¯s looking for!? He calculated all of the bias points in current based on the voltages he recommended

Those are just my opinions. I¡¯m sure other people will differ.

Gordon kx4z
> On May 9, 2025, at 18:51, Travis Siegel via <tsiegel=[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ?Sorry to change the subject (slightly), but I'd like to know how far outside the specs in the manual we can go with power adapters.? The zbitx manual says 6-9 volts is preferred.? Will a 5V or a 10V supply break the radio? I have both of these, and was wondering which one (if either) I could use on the radio.? Failing that, what kind of setup would I need to attach a 12-volt deep cycle battery (taken from a power scooter) to the radio.? My wife had two of these batteries for her power chair, but it has since stopped working.? I use them directly to power my yaesu 857, and it works just fine, but since that radio doesn't transmit, I'd like to try using them on the zbitx.? Would I need a voltage regulator to reduce power to 6-9 volts, or can it handle the 12 volts directly?
>
> The manual says we need 6-9 volts, with at least 3A for the radio, but I'm hoping there's some wiggle room in there, because I'm hard pressed to find such an adapter already lying around here.? I'll have to go find one on amazon or something, but until then, can I use either of the above mentioned supplies w/o fear of burning up the radio?
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Re: FT8 time differential - how to resolve?

 

Miguel
? For the zBitx - WSJT-X, WSJT-Z , fldigi and other Pi apps need an external monitor, mouse and keyboard. The zBitx display is managed by the Pico Pi, so there is no usual Pi desktop display.
The sBitx, in contrast, has a Pi desktop display and can run Pi apps without external hardware.
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73
??? Bob? KD8CGH


Re: Order # 3869 April 2

 

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Order #3775 shipped May 10
--Gary


On May 9, 2025, at 11:02?PM, A Kiddoo via groups.io <kt0tt.ham@...> wrote:

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Thank you for posting date and order #. Gives hope.
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Re: add a wifi network to zbitx

 


Consider setting up your phone hotspot with the same SSID and PWD as home; you're about never going to use your hotspot while at home....

-Ted
? K3RTA

Justice will not come (to Athens) until those who are not injured are as indignant as those who are injured.

Thucydides


Displaying/setting the network connection in SET screen on zBitx

 

When using zBitx outdoor, I use my mobile phone as a time source. Additionally I would like to use my mobile to control zBitx via web interface. Unfortunately, my smartphone does not report IP addresses of the connected devices. In case of sBitx, I can find it's IP and connect to it from the smartphone. It would be nice if zBitx could report its IP as well.
Another issue is the fact that connecting to the new network requires HDMI connection. I was in a hotel, where the TV didn't offer HDMI connectivity. Thence, I couldn't connect my zBitx to the local network.
Adding a possibility to set WiFi SSID and pasword in the SET screen would be a good solution.
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73,
Wojtek SP5DAA


Re: Upgrade Required?

 

Mine arrived last week with the latest firmware as far as I can see: front panel version 1.06 and zbitx version 3.052

73 Frank PA3CNO?


Op 10 mei 2025 05:38 schreef "Everett-WB9FUW via groups.io" <eprantanen@...>:

Hi,
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So for those that have received their ZbitX in the last week or so..did it arrive with the latest firmware (for both the display and main)?
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Or did you have to immediately update it?
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Thanks,
Everett-WB9FUW


Re: add a wifi network to zbitx

 

Name your phone's hotspot the same as your home network. Simplifies transitioning.


Upgrade Required?

 

Hi,
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So for those that have received their ZbitX in the last week or so..did it arrive with the latest firmware (for both the display and main)?
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Or did you have to immediately update it?
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Thanks,
Everett-WB9FUW