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Re: sBitx Mic input - assist request

 

Even with a dynamic mic, QD1's operating point is incorrect. The emitter and base should have a difference of .6 to .7 volts. The listed voltages are 3.9 and 2.3 volts or 1.6 volts. The transistor is not in the linear mode. I would replace QD1 and remeasure.
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73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Trying to update firmware in ubitx6.1 #v6

 

I just updated mine, and I had to use a new board. I have a programmer, and I was able to load the OG nano that came with the 6.1, but you have to be able to program via the 6 pin (which you have to solder on to the OG board) to do so. I think they programmed them without the stk500 bootloader.

Also, I tried the N8ME firmware, but the screen is unresponsive, and the pushbutton to menu didn't work either.

After loading the new 6.1 firmware, power on, holding the menu button down, so you can calibrate the screen.

-- -- J R Parrick (K0TBS)
Si vis pacem, para bellum!


Re: sBitx Mic input - assist request

 

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Exactly. ?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

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Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


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On Mar 9, 2025, at 9:31?AM, Gordon Gibby KX4Z via groups.io <docvacuumtubes@...> wrote:

?It is possible he’s trying a dynamic microphone



On Mar 9, 2025, at 12:23, K9HZ via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:

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Bad mic. ?Is drawing the bias provided by RD21 down from 11.9v to 2.1V.?


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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


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On Mar 9, 2025, at 9:03?AM, WF4RC Carroll <WF4RC@...> wrote:

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I have a new sBitxV3 board only. Everything is working except the Mic input. I started experimenting with some microphone I had and the recorded transmission has lots of noise and very low audio. I measure 2.1v on mic input tip. I think it should be 5v. Can anyone guide me as to what the issue may be and where I should look. Here are my measurements/ calculations.?
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Re: sBitx Mic input - assist request

 

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It is possible he’s trying a dynamic microphone



On Mar 9, 2025, at 12:23, K9HZ via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:

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Bad mic. ?Is drawing the bias provided by RD21 down from 11.9v to 2.1V.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


email:??bill@...

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On Mar 9, 2025, at 9:03?AM, WF4RC Carroll <WF4RC@...> wrote:

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I have a new sBitxV3 board only. Everything is working except the Mic input. I started experimenting with some microphone I had and the recorded transmission has lots of noise and very low audio. I measure 2.1v on mic input tip. I think it should be 5v. Can anyone guide me as to what the issue may be and where I should look. Here are my measurements/ calculations.?
<sBitx.MicIn.WF4RC.png>


Re: sBitx Mic input - assist request

 

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Bad mic. ?Is drawing the bias provided by RD21 down from 11.9v to 2.1V.?


Dr.?William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

?

Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton - J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it: www.VillaGrandPiton.com


email:??bill@...

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On Mar 9, 2025, at 9:03?AM, WF4RC Carroll <WF4RC@...> wrote:

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I have a new sBitxV3 board only. Everything is working except the Mic input. I started experimenting with some microphone I had and the recorded transmission has lots of noise and very low audio. I measure 2.1v on mic input tip. I think it should be 5v. Can anyone guide me as to what the issue may be and where I should look. Here are my measurements/ calculations.?
<sBitx.MicIn.WF4RC.png>


Re: sBitx Mic input - assist request

 

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Yeah, tell us everything about the microphone!!!

On Mar 9, 2025, at 12:02, WF4RC Carroll via groups.io <WF4RC@...> wrote:

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I have a new sBitxV3 board only. Everything is working except the Mic input. I started experimenting with some microphone I had and the recorded transmission has lots of noise and very low audio. I measure 2.1v on mic input tip. I think it should be 5v. Can anyone guide me as to what the issue may be and where I should look. Here are my measurements/ calculations.?
<sBitx.MicIn.WF4RC.png>


sBitx Mic input - assist request

 

I have a new sBitxV3 board only. Everything is working except the Mic input. I started experimenting with some microphone I had and the recorded transmission has lots of noise and very low audio. I measure 2.1v on mic input tip. I think it should be 5v. Can anyone guide me as to what the issue may be and where I should look. Here are my measurements/ calculations.?


Re: SSB Xmit repair

 

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He could offset the carrier a bit one way or the other, (maybe by 1500 Hz ?) and then plot the response of the filter by looking at the noise pattern on any waterfall display

It would be a great learning exercise also!!

Gordon kx4z?




On Mar 9, 2025, at 10:37, Evan Hand via groups.io <elhandjr@...> wrote:

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Hi Ted,
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Since you have the Memory Manager software, I suggest you save the values to a file and do the BFO adjustment again.??
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I thought about the symptoms again and do not believe the modulator failure is the most likely cause.? The carrier is significantly reduced in the video.? If the modulator failed, I would expect a much higher value for the carrier (BF0).? Also, the SSB crystal filter would limit the output to a 3KHz span.? It could be that the SSB filter is damaged somehow.
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Hopefully, others can chime in here, as I cannot explain the data.
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73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: SSB Xmit repair

 

Hi Ted,
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Since you have the Memory Manager software, I suggest you save the values to a file and do the BFO adjustment again.??
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I thought about the symptoms again and do not believe the modulator failure is the most likely cause.? The carrier is significantly reduced in the video.? If the modulator failed, I would expect a much higher value for the carrier (BF0).? Also, the SSB crystal filter would limit the output to a 3KHz span.? It could be that the SSB filter is damaged somehow.
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Hopefully, others can chime in here, as I cannot explain the data.
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73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: zbitx update, shipping, pico, et al

 

Thank you Ashar! Thanks for all your hard work making our hobby fun, innovative, and affordable! Truly state of the art! Doing what no one else has done! I appreciate it greatly!

Jay NM2M?

On Sun, Mar 9, 2025, 09:53 Robert AG6LK via <amrmedic=hotmail.com_at_groups.io_0p8dlwo6@...> wrote:

Ashhar,
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Thank you for all the time you have put into the ZBitx. Hopefully, after this weekend you’ll get a much needed break
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Thank You again,
Robert AG6LK


Re: SSB Xmit repair

 

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Hi, Evan, and all.
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I appreciate the leads.? Here are some answers to your queries -
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On Fri, Mar 7, 2025 at 08:29 AM, Evan Hand wrote:
Can you pull up the software settings page and note the BO value?? It should be close to 11.056 kilohertz.?
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See attached;? SSB is set tp 11.056875. That would have been a really good call, though I'm not against trying all over again.??
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If you think this may help, I happen to have a small "TinySA" that I've played with, but the best I can do while learning what it can do is to compare an IC-706MK2g signal on the same frequency, and see how they differ.?
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If the calibration values seem correct, then the only test I know for the modulator is to pull the diode and replace it with a known-good one.? That does require SMD rework skills.? I suggest not using discrete diodes for this replacement, as they may not have the matched characteristics.
I happen to have a previously-abused mainboard handy. Swapping out the dual diode would not be that much trouble here.

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Before you start tearing apart your radio, I have a question: The video clip shows USB as the communication mode.? Were you running a USB on 40 meters?
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I'd been working a number of other folks before and after this follower came along, so either the video fails to show his entire screen and something's missing, or, maybe he swapped sidebands on his end before gathering evidence.? And now at home - using the redundant radio - I can indeed hear equally well on both side bands from 2 feet away at least.
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So,? unless the collective believes the BFO or other calibration is off, I'm willing to swap the diode pair and will stand by.....
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72,
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Ted
K3RTA
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Re: zbitx update, shipping, pico, et al

 

Ashhar,
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Thank you for all the time you have put into the ZBitx. Hopefully, after this weekend you’ll get a much needed break
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Thank You again,
Robert AG6LK


Re: zbitx update, shipping, pico, et al

 

Wow, that sounds like it was a puzzle to figure out.?


Re: Sbitx v4.4 es Xiegu amp

 

I'll wire up an XT60 double fuse segment LEGO to go in line.? It looks like that PSU is a clone or has clones so I'll try this variant.
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Thanks for the info, everyone.


Re: zbitx update, shipping, pico, et al

 

Thank you for the update!
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Take your time! I believe that we all rather have the issues solved in advance and in house.?

excellent work and laser focused dedication!!
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73 de CR7BOG?


Re: zbitx update, shipping, pico, et al

 

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Thanks for the update.

Gerry

On 2025-03-09 03:16, Ashhar Farhan via groups.io wrote:

Hello all,

At the risk of sounding lame, here is why we haven't yet shipped last week.?
First, the radios are all tested and ready to ship. We ran into a problem with the Pico, Let me explain this. Get a coffee and sit down...

BEFORE:
The original zbitx had just a small crummy OLED display. The idea was that you read an IP address shown on the OLED display and type it into your phone/tab/pc and use it as a remote head from your favourite device. That continues to happen. However, if you have seen the pictures of the zbitx, we have also added a 3.5 inch TFT LCD display to the radio. This is a? 480x320?TFT touch display. It is not as common as the 320x240 display that is used in uBitx, it is half the resolution of the standard sbitx v3.We insisted on this display as FT8 needs at least 10 lines of decodes to be useful. There was a shortage of these from January onwards, we started getting them only by February last week. These are apparently commonly used in ebikes and they got wiped out in the Christmas sales.

THEN:
The Raspberry Zero 2, that powers the zbitx (zero bitx because of? the RPI zero in it), can't handle this display as the GPIO pins on it are all used up. Hence, the zbitx sports a new microcontroller, the Raspberry Pico W (with Wifi and Bluetooth on it!) that handles the front panel. This offloads the user interface to this microcontroller that handles the 3.5 inch TFT display. The two talk to each other over the I2C bus (Pi is the master, Pico is the slave).

NOW:
Future updates to the front panel (like moving the comms between the zbitx and the front-panel to bluetooth or even wifi to make it a remote head) will need a way to update the firmware to the Pico. It is usually done with an Arduino IDE running on a computer with micro USB cable from the PC to the Pico. That is the easy part. The hard part was that getting the Arduino going on a PC, installing the Pico package and then the TFT display libraries is like pulling teeth. There has to be a better way. We realized this last week when I shipped out the Pico firmware to our folks at HF Signals. If they(HF Signals) couldn't get the Arduino IDE setup on their PC within minutes, I?was very skeptical and most users of zbitx would.

SO, the Plan is ...
First, we are shipping the micro USB cables with the radios that will allow the raspberry pi zero to move the latest firmware from zbitx's sbitx folder to the Pico. Second, we are getting a new update script that will copy the latest firmware over from the Pi to the Pico. That is taking this weekend. I took a break from writing it to post this email, I will work through this weekend and hopefully get it shipped to HF Signals in the next 24 hours.
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I hope this explains the further delay. Thanks for the understanding. We will of course keep the list updated with the progress.

73, f


Re: uBITX v6 PTT stuck

 

I changed K1 relay (somehow) so will see how it goes from now. If remain the same I will go for mic socket and also other relay too..
Thanks for the good advices, guys!
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73,
Vule, E78CB


Re: Sbitx v4.4 es Xiegu amp

 

On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 02:43 AM, K9HZ wrote:
Current limiting an amp is not necessarily a good thing… can generate compression for no good reason.? Its better to drive limit an amplifier.
When the current limit comes into effect, I immediately reduce the drive value. With this setup, this is the best solution.
It can be complicated, but when the person is there, work, not just the radio.
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Gyula HA3HZ


Re: Sbitx v4.4 es Xiegu amp

 

On Sun, Mar 9, 2025 at 08:45 AM, Gordon Gibby KX4Z wrote:
That power supply looks like it’s here.
Yes, that's exactly what I use.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: Sbitx v4.4 es Xiegu amp

 

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That power supply looks like it’s here.





On Mar 8, 2025, at 20:43, K9HZ via groups.io <bill@...> wrote:

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Current limiting an amp is not necessarily a good thing… can generate compression for no good reason.? Its better to drive limit an amplifier.

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Dr. William J. Schmidt - K9HZ J68HZ 8P6HK ZF2HZ PJ4/K9HZ VP5/K9HZ PJ2/K9HZ VP2EHZ

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Owner - Operator

Big Signal Ranch – K9ZC

Staunton, Illinois

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Owner – Operator

Villa Grand Piton – J68HZ

Soufriere, St. Lucia W.I.

Rent it:

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Moderator: Amateur Radio Builders Group at Groups.IO.

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of JJ - W9JES
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2025 7:35 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Sbitx v4.4 es Xiegu amp

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On Sat, Mar 8, 2025 at 08:23 AM, Kevin wrote:

Is there a particular current limiting power supply that you recommend for the sbitx?? I don't typically see HAM linear or switching power supplies with amp adjustments and the one that I have looks like a scientific bench model from the 60s.?

Current limiting can be achieved in several ways even with a traditional HAM power supply. Just put fuses inline between the radio and power supply. Make sure you fuse both the positive and negative side with an appropriate fuse. The sBitx V3 draws up to 9 amps on TX at high power on some bands. A 10a fuse would be fine in this case. You can also swap to a lower amperage fuse as needed.

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JJ