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Re: reviving my sbitx v3

 

If you have a current limited supply at about 2Amps

OR?

a variable voltage supply,

Then you could do a preliminary test after replacing D7 so you again have SOME reverse polarity protection.? ?We have had MULTIPLE radios severely damaged by good friends of mine in Northern Florida by accidentally getting the polarity backwards.? ?It only takes a blink of an eye.

I use a "wall wart" that ONLY puts out 12V and can't put out more than 1-2Amps for initial?testing of some of my radios.
Alternatively, I have a MFJ power supply that is adjustable.? ??

With the Raspberry Pi DISCONNECTED, you?can very carefully apply current limited source, or else use a variable voltage source of about 5V and see what current flows -- there should?be VERY LITTLE if the raspberry isn't connected.? ? Then if you can get the voltage up to 12V without having current more than 1/2 amp or so -- you might be in OK shape.? ? But at that point I would carefully measure the output of the 5V regulator and see if it was damaged BEFORE CONNECTING ANY RASPBERY?TO IT.

If you are lucky, not all the 2n2219s were damaged.? ?By measuring the voltage across their emitter resistors you can calculate the current through them annd?see what is happening, or else see which ones are getting HOT.? ??

On Amazon, there are multiple sources for 2219a's and they aren't that expensive.....

One of the things I try to always put together now,....is some form of polarit?protection on anything expesnsive that I buy.? ? ?I built a mosfet protection circuit and did a printed circuit board which is shared as a project on ? ? Lots in our group have used it.? ? I put it on EVERY radio down at our EOC becuase?it is SO EASY to damage radios when people are stressed out or tired.

Let usknow?how it goes!
Gordon KX4Z



On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 5:33?PM Michael Bales via <mikebales73=[email protected]> wrote:
Not sure, I must have inadvertently applied 12v somewhere I shouldn't have. Either way, I doubt that I can check any further damage until I replace D7. Probable worst case would be having to drop $40 on new 2n2219s.






-------- Original message --------
From: "Gordon Gibby KX4Z via " <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]>
Date: 3/1/25 5:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [BITX20] reviving my sbitx v3

Michael, how did D7 get damaged?? ?Was reverse polarity applied to the radio at some point?? ?that would be the most likely way to damage D7 and it would have serious impacts on some of the other components, such as the 4 transistors in the driver section.? ?So what do you know about how D7 got damaged???? it isthere?to protect somewhat against?reverse polarity

Gordon?

On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 3:01?PM Michael Bales via <mikebales73=[email protected]> wrote:
So, after the diagnosis and repair of the power group components, Q9,Q10,Q101,R5,R6 (all replaced), on power up, +12v drops to under 2v and the area around the Q12-15 group heats up quickly. I did note that D7 was basically shot, continuity in both directions. What are my most likely culprits at this point?
--
Mike - K8MCB?


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Re: reviving my sbitx v3

 

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Not sure, I must have inadvertently applied 12v somewhere I shouldn't have. Either way, I doubt that I can check any further damage until I replace D7. Probable worst case would be having to drop $40 on new 2n2219s.






-------- Original message --------
From: "Gordon Gibby KX4Z via groups.io" <docvacuumtubes@...>
Date: 3/1/25 5:19 PM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [BITX20] reviving my sbitx v3

Michael, how did D7 get damaged?? ?Was reverse polarity applied to the radio at some point?? ?that would be the most likely way to damage D7 and it would have serious impacts on some of the other components, such as the 4 transistors in the driver section.? ?So what do you know about how D7 got damaged???? it isthere?to protect somewhat against?reverse polarity

Gordon?

On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 3:01?PM Michael Bales via <mikebales73=[email protected]> wrote:
So, after the diagnosis and repair of the power group components, Q9,Q10,Q101,R5,R6 (all replaced), on power up, +12v drops to under 2v and the area around the Q12-15 group heats up quickly. I did note that D7 was basically shot, continuity in both directions. What are my most likely culprits at this point?
--
Mike - K8MCB?


--
Mike - K8MCB?


Re: reviving my sbitx v3

 

Michael, how did D7 get damaged?? ?Was reverse polarity applied to the radio at some point?? ?that would be the most likely way to damage D7 and it would have serious impacts on some of the other components, such as the 4 transistors in the driver section.? ?So what do you know about how D7 got damaged???? it isthere?to protect somewhat against?reverse polarity

Gordon?

On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 3:01?PM Michael Bales via <mikebales73=[email protected]> wrote:
So, after the diagnosis and repair of the power group components, Q9,Q10,Q101,R5,R6 (all replaced), on power up, +12v drops to under 2v and the area around the Q12-15 group heats up quickly. I did note that D7 was basically shot, continuity in both directions. What are my most likely culprits at this point?
--
Mike - K8MCB?


reviving my sbitx v3

 

So, after the diagnosis and repair of the power group components, Q9,Q10,Q101,R5,R6 (all replaced), on power up, +12v drops to under 2v and the area around the Q12-15 group heats up quickly. I did note that D7 was basically shot, continuity in both directions. What are my most likely culprits at this point?
--
Mike - K8MCB?


Re: sBITX 64Bit Pi Image Available #sBitx

 

Thanks a lot for sharing
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Best 73
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Patrick


SMS noise on sBitx V4

 

This needs to be implemented in sBitx V4,
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Getting back to the SMS 5V regulator noise, I just finished building a QRPlabs QMX+ and while it uses 3 different SMS regs it does not exhibit any noise from them because of this, direct quote from QMX+ info:
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" The rather unique aspect is that the microcontroller knows the radio's operating frequency; it also knows the switching frequency. Both are known relative to the high precision 25MHz TCXO reference which is the master clock for the entire design. The CPU can calculate where the harmonics of the switching frequency occur and slightly alter the buck converter PWM frequency to move the interference far away from the operating frequency."
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We need this in the sBitx V4.
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Joel
N6ALT


Re: sBITX 64Bit Pi Image Available #sBitx

 

Software Release Announcement: sBitx Version 4.4

Version 4.4 introduces new features, enhancements, and fixes to improve your experience.
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Here’s what’s new:
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New Features:
  • Added power down button from sbitx menu 2
  • Added Macro chooser button in the main GUI for FT8/CW modes
  • Added full spectrum/waterfall button for CW modes
  • Added current/voltage meter display functionality for INA260 Power Sensor add-on hardware
  • Added max-hold visualization for POWER and corrected SWR calculation in the case of little or no FWD POWER
  • Added AUTOSCOPE in MENU 2 which adjusts the vertical offset of the scope and the base value for the waterfall automatically, making it easier to see signals clearly.
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Fixes and Improvements:
  • Fixed the Macro change screen refresh when changing macros
  • Fixed the CW Macro issue when the delay/WPM were set at a threshold
  • Adjusted CW shaping timing and reduced from 20ms to 4ms for improved CW transmission
  • Fixed the "crashing" noise in voice, FT8, and DIGI modes

Please see the release notes at ?for more information.
To get this new update, please visit our wiki ?
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Sincerely,
The 64 bit sBitx Development Team


Re: zBitx - Progress Update

 

Pro ty, co si nedoká?í najít translator:?

On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 10:47 AM, Lev wrote:
Je to dobrá zpráva pro v?echny ?ekající. Není pot?eba kolektiv HF Signals nutit ke spěchu. Dělají, co mohou aby v?e bylo v po?ádku a osazení desek, kompletace a testování se nedají nijak uspěchat bez zhor?ení kvality. Proto na ně netla?me a ?ekejme, na v?echny se dostane. Snad by mezitím mohl b?t ke sta?ení nějak? manuál nebo instruktá?ní video, jak TRX správně nakonfigurovat nebo provozovat. Také se sice nemohu do?kat ur?itě v?borného TRXu, kter? je brzy na cestě k nám. Lev OK2PLL
Lev,
?Neváhejte pou?ít P?eklada? Google, proto?e jazyk pou?ívan? na fóru je angli?tina. U?ivatelé nebudou kv?li va?emu rozmaru hledat p?ekladatele, ale va?i zprávu budou ignorovat.
?
Lev,
feel free to use google translate because the language used by the forum is English. Users will not look for a translator because of your whim, but will ignore your message.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: sBitx v3 stopped producing RF output after long FT8 operation #power #rf #sBITX_v3

 

Well, let's wait with celebrating until I replace the MOSFETs and find the device working properly.?
What annoys me is that I didn't detect that parasitic "diode" between gate and source at the first measurements after disassembling the transceiver. However, maybe the damage was increasing while I tested it.

73,
Wojtek?

sob., 1 mar 2025, 12:40 u?ytkownik Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> napisa?:

Delighted that you found the problem. Interesting that both drains showed an AC voltage even though one device was effectively shorted.? That is surprising to me.

Wish you the best

Gordon kx4z?



On Mar 1, 2025, at 06:38, HA3HZ via <gyula=[email protected]> wrote:

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Wojtek,
Buy 10 pieces so that you can choose the two with almost the same opening voltage.
They may be the same in shipping, but there is still a difference between them.
You can install them without Aluminum nitride with the old mica, and use some kind of fan to cool the heat sink from the back.
Read another message where I wrote how I use the v2.
You can easily replace the AlN ceramic later if you look at which screw you need to unscrew to remove the heat sink.
Read and do the Bias adjustment as described here (you can also find the article on ).
?
It is important to do the adjustment with a 2A current limit!
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: Error starting sBitx v4.3 64 bits

 

Hi Ramon,
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Try adding noaudio to the vc4-hdmi (not sure this is the correct name) line in the config.txt file in /boot.? I had to do that for an external HDMI monitor with audio.
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I still need to shut down and wait to restart my DE.??
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I also suggest going to JJ's 64-bit software.? My DE seems to like it better.
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73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: How to ruggedize the sBitx V3

 

On my SECOND sBitx (which I bought used, once again) here are the items I plan to do (I prefer the V2 model, just because it offers me a bit more "headroom" for digital etc on the lower bands -- I think Ashhar made the right choice for the mass production with the changes he made fir the V3)

1.? A few added resistors:? ?/g/BITX20/wiki/36110? ? That will eliminat?a couple of known traps
2.? Change the insulators to Aluminum Nitride and slightly polish the heatsink
3.? I'm debating with myself whether to change the output MOSFETS to IRF520.? ? It is slightly tricky mechanically, but the V2 I purchased has the better securement for the bar, which makes it less tricky (and is probably on all of the current V3s)? ? So I may go ahead and switch out.
4.? I like the TVS diode protection, so I'll add those back in.? ?On the V2 this requires scraping a few leads of their protective coverage and then carefully soldering these incredibly tiny devices.? ??

Either use my own modified software or the recent 64-bit software from JJ that greatly improves the sampling of the CW system and also the T/R delays.? ?I have just installed the 64-bit software and operating system on that particular unit, and was very happy to see it work fine with the upgraded software.? ? Haven't learned how to compile yet, but that will come.? ?This is a radio for tinkerers like me!?


Additions:? (These aren't protections, they are just things that I happen?to like)
A.? ?I will probably put in the output optocoupler SEND output that I came up with, because I still have parts and this is helpful to me in controlling a linear amp or a transverter.
B.? Since I do a bunch of digital that works better with a Windows PC, I'll probably add back in the secparate?audio output independent of the one for headphones etc.? ??

I do SSB, digital and a good bit of CW.? ?You just can't get this same level of FUN on CWwith my Icom 7300.
I like having everything assembled into a "go box"? ? I don't go hiking, I just drive up to places and pull out the simple plywood "go box" -- it has everything I need, including antenna tuner, power supply, and sometimes even a built-in CW paddle!? ? That's just my preference; others do their own thing!

Part of the joy of ham radio (as opposed to FRS/GMRS / CB / cell phones ) is our ability to tinker and improve?

Gordon


On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 7:18?AM Gordon Gibby KX4Z via <docvacuumtubes=[email protected]> wrote:

This radio is ground-breaking in that it is NOT a $1200 Icom and Yaesu and yet it has many of their features, and sometimes does things far more expensive radios cannot.? ? Instead of using $15 final amplifier MOSFETS (which would be much easier to design for!) it uses $1 MOSFETS.

The ICOM 718 went through at least THREE different designs for it output power stage over its course of years (and possibly more).? ?I have worked on one with bipolar transitors and another with mosfets!? ?Wonder if their owners even knew?

The VHF parasitic oscillation caused a lot of problems, and required redesign of the T/R system as part of the eradication.? ?That resulted in an elegant diode-switching system (where Hans is said to have helped out greatly) and that made this an even better radio.? ??

I think there are still a few "gotchas" in the diodes connected to?+12 without series limiting resistors -- but if you never venture in there with a probe, they will do just fine.? ? Many of us prefer to change out the mica insulators to Aluminum nitride and at the same time, polish the matching surface of the heatsink.? ??

I remember when some of the most expensive radios on the market were found to have huge linearity issues -- very embarrasing?-- and the company came up with fixes eventually and solved it.? ?

The use of a LINUX COMPUTER as the controlling microcomputer is new and different for many of us, and that has both advantages and disadvantages.? ?

I can't remember if the software includes "foldback" on the power but if it doesn't, that could easily be added.? ?What I think we've generally realized is that on a 12V supply, going to 100V MOSFETS gives a great level of protection against poor SWR.? ? The GATE was another weak spot and in recent designs, Ashhar has chosen to adjust the gain around to reduce that risk, and he has also in some cases added TVS protection diodes.? ? ??

There is a little 3-mosfet power switcher that we think has a "gotcha" built into it that can be fixed by adding one resistor and for the adept, that is a good idea.? ?

Past that, it is an incredibly fun radio!? ?And cheap enough that I can own TWO of them!? ? It got me onto 2-meter SSB for the very first time (with the addition of a transverter) and the ability of the microcontroller to run other software at the same time is helping me begin to forage into satellite communications, something I've never done before.? ??

It is NOT the radio for "appliance operators"? who are better off teething on ICOM or YAESU (I prefer Icom).? ?There are all kinds of people in ham radio and not every radio fits every person, at every stage of their growth!

What a fun radio!

73
Gordon KX4Z


On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 7:05?AM Evan Hand via <elhandjr=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Gyula,
?
I remember reading about a failed DE output transformer. The stacked toroids cracked due to heat, leading to the V2 and V3 redesign.
?
?
73
Evan
AC9TU
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Re: Error starting sBitx v4.3 64 bits

 

Thanks Ashhar,
so there is no solution if sBix DE is used?
搁补尘ó苍


Re: How to ruggedize the sBitx V3

 


This radio is ground-breaking in that it is NOT a $1200 Icom and Yaesu and yet it has many of their features, and sometimes does things far more expensive radios cannot.? ? Instead of using $15 final amplifier MOSFETS (which would be much easier to design for!) it uses $1 MOSFETS.

The ICOM 718 went through at least THREE different designs for it output power stage over its course of years (and possibly more).? ?I have worked on one with bipolar transitors and another with mosfets!? ?Wonder if their owners even knew?

The VHF parasitic oscillation caused a lot of problems, and required redesign of the T/R system as part of the eradication.? ?That resulted in an elegant diode-switching system (where Hans is said to have helped out greatly) and that made this an even better radio.? ??

I think there are still a few "gotchas" in the diodes connected to?+12 without series limiting resistors -- but if you never venture in there with a probe, they will do just fine.? ? Many of us prefer to change out the mica insulators to Aluminum nitride and at the same time, polish the matching surface of the heatsink.? ??

I remember when some of the most expensive radios on the market were found to have huge linearity issues -- very embarrasing?-- and the company came up with fixes eventually and solved it.? ?

The use of a LINUX COMPUTER as the controlling microcomputer is new and different for many of us, and that has both advantages and disadvantages.? ?

I can't remember if the software includes "foldback" on the power but if it doesn't, that could easily be added.? ?What I think we've generally realized is that on a 12V supply, going to 100V MOSFETS gives a great level of protection against poor SWR.? ? The GATE was another weak spot and in recent designs, Ashhar has chosen to adjust the gain around to reduce that risk, and he has also in some cases added TVS protection diodes.? ? ??

There is a little 3-mosfet power switcher that we think has a "gotcha" built into it that can be fixed by adding one resistor and for the adept, that is a good idea.? ?

Past that, it is an incredibly fun radio!? ?And cheap enough that I can own TWO of them!? ? It got me onto 2-meter SSB for the very first time (with the addition of a transverter) and the ability of the microcontroller to run other software at the same time is helping me begin to forage into satellite communications, something I've never done before.? ??

It is NOT the radio for "appliance operators"? who are better off teething on ICOM or YAESU (I prefer Icom).? ?There are all kinds of people in ham radio and not every radio fits every person, at every stage of their growth!

What a fun radio!

73
Gordon KX4Z


On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 7:05?AM Evan Hand via <elhandjr=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Gyula,
?
I remember reading about a failed DE output transformer. The stacked toroids cracked due to heat, leading to the V2 and V3 redesign.
?
?
73
Evan
AC9TU
?


Re: How to ruggedize the sBitx V3

 

Hi Gyula,
?
I remember reading about a failed DE output transformer. The stacked toroids cracked due to heat, leading to the V2 and V3 redesign.
?
?
73
Evan
AC9TU
?


Re: zBitx - Progress Update

 

On Sat, Mar 1, 2025 at 10:47 AM, Lev wrote:
Je to dobrá zpráva pro v?echny ?ekající. Není pot?eba kolektiv HF Signals nutit ke spěchu. Dělají, co mohou aby v?e bylo v po?ádku a osazení desek, kompletace a testování se nedají nijak uspěchat bez zhor?ení kvality. Proto na ně netla?me a ?ekejme, na v?echny se dostane. Snad by mezitím mohl b?t ke sta?ení nějak? manuál nebo instruktá?ní video, jak TRX správně nakonfigurovat nebo provozovat. Také se sice nemohu do?kat ur?itě v?borného TRXu, kter? je brzy na cestě k nám. Lev OK2PLL
Lev,
?Neváhejte pou?ít P?eklada? Google, proto?e jazyk pou?ívan? na fóru je angli?tina. U?ivatelé nebudou kv?li va?emu rozmaru hledat p?ekladatele, ale va?i zprávu budou ignorovat.
?
Lev,
feel free to use google translate because the language used by the forum is English. Users will not look for a translator because of your whim, but will ignore your message.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: How to ruggedize the sBitx V3

 

Bravo Delta,
I've read almost every message since the summer of 2022, but I don't remember a melted transformer. Could you give me a link to what I missed.
If you read my post today about v2, then I don't need to write more. Use a current-limiting power supply and an antenna that is tuned to the frequency and you will have few problems. Another important thing is the quality of the mechanical and electrical connections.
The components go through a lot of checks during production, but despite this, failures can occur.
The last time I opened the device was to replace the CR2032, because the date display went crazy.
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: sBitx v3 stopped producing RF output after long FT8 operation #power #rf #sBITX_v3

 

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Delighted that you found the problem. Interesting that both drains showed an AC voltage even though one device was effectively shorted. ?That is surprising to me.

Wish you the best

Gordon kx4z?



On Mar 1, 2025, at 06:38, HA3HZ via groups.io <gyula@...> wrote:

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Wojtek,
Buy 10 pieces so that you can choose the two with almost the same opening voltage.
They may be the same in shipping, but there is still a difference between them.
You can install them without Aluminum nitride with the old mica, and use some kind of fan to cool the heat sink from the back.
Read another message where I wrote how I use the v2.
You can easily replace the AlN ceramic later if you look at which screw you need to unscrew to remove the heat sink.
Read and do the Bias adjustment as described here (you can also find the article on sbitx.net).
?
It is important to do the adjustment with a 2A current limit!
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: sBitx v3 stopped producing RF output after long FT8 operation #power #rf #sBITX_v3

 

Wojtek,
Buy 10 pieces so that you can choose the two with almost the same opening voltage.
They may be the same in shipping, but there is still a difference between them.
You can install them without Aluminum nitride with the old mica, and use some kind of fan to cool the heat sink from the back.
Read another message where I wrote how I use the v2.
You can easily replace the AlN ceramic later if you look at which screw you need to unscrew to remove the heat sink.
Read and do the Bias adjustment as described here (you can also find the article on sbitx.net).
?
It is important to do the adjustment with a 2A current limit!
--
Gyula HA3HZ


Re: sBitx v3 stopped producing RF output after long FT8 operation #power #rf #sBITX_v3

 

I would wait on the insulators myself... They help tremendously to be honest.
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David - WK4DS


Re: Error starting sBitx v4.3 64 bits

 

The tft display uses spi interface that uses the same gpio pins as the audio codec


On Sat, Mar 1, 2025, 4:20 PM ramonlh via <ramonlh=[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks JJ,
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the output to "aplay -l" is:
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pi@sbitx:~/sbitx $ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: vc4hdmi0 [vc4-hdmi-0], device 0: MAI PCM i2s-hifi-0 [MAI PCM i2s-hifi-0]
? Subdevices: 1/1
? Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: vc4hdmi1 [vc4-hdmi-1], device 0: MAI PCM i2s-hifi-0 [MAI PCM i2s-hifi-0]
? Subdevices: 1/1
? Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 2: audioinjectorpi [audioinjector-pi-soundcard], device 0: AudioInjector audio wm8731-hifi-0 [AudioInjector audio wm8731-hifi-0]
? Subdevices: 1/1
? Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 3: Loopback [Loopback], device 0: Loopback PCM [Loopback PCM]
? Subdevices: 8/8
? Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
?...
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Indeed, the order is not correct.
I have created the file "/etc/udev/rules.d/85-audio-injector.rules" and added this line

SUBSYSTEM=="sound", ATTR{id}=="audioinjectorpi", ATTR{index}=="0"

but it seems to have no effect.
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In fact, the output of the command
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"sudo udevadm test /sys/class/sound/card2"
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shows a line like this:
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Reading rules file: /etc/udev/rules.d/85-audio-injector.rules /etc/udev/rules.d/85-audio-injector.rules:1 The line takes no effect, ignoring.
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搁补尘ó苍 EA4GZI
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