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Re: Birdie at the top of the pass band #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

I have the same thing. I dont have had the sBitX for too long yet, but this seems not to be an issue.

On 25/04/2024 11.38 pm, AE9J wrote:
I have a persistent birdie at the top of the passband.? It shows up on all bands and doses not move when tuning.? It is not audible because it is too high in frequency to be heard but, it shows up in the passband.? I can't help but think it is desensing the receiver.
Does everybody have this birdie or is it just me?? Is this WAD(Working As Designed)?
I connected a dummy load to make sure it wasn't something from the outside world.
These are the pictures before I replaced the noisy 5V converter.? Replacing did clean up a lot of the background grass but didn't get rid of this birdie.
I
Here I tuned around 21.167 to show all of the other audio moved but not the birdie.


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Hi Jeff,

The response of the encoder can be changed in the software.? In my opinion, this is a better method than reducing the PowerPoint presentation.

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Vara Winlink on Sbitx

 

Thank you for that. ? ?I already seen something about that. ? I was wondering about how to actually get it setup and running and how to use it on the SBitX.

Thank you
Jim
KE0VVU


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

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Sounds great!? As I said before, it might take me some time to get all the details and testing done, but I'll let you all know when it's ready.?

Another thought that I had... I think I'd prefer that the encoder on the top have less resolution.? It kinda bothers me that I barely turn the knob and I've cycled through 6 modes.? I don't know what the encoder resolution is right now, but I'm guessing it's 20ppr (pulses per revolution).? That is great for the VFO knob, but I think it would be better with a 12ppr or lower for the upper.? Any thoughts there?? Think I just need to try it out and see how it goes.




From:[email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Evan Hand <elhandjr@...>
Sent:?Thursday, April 25, 2024 11:36 PM
To:[email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject:?Re: [BITX20] sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3
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Hi Jeff,

I would be interested in two with the parts included.?


73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Vara Winlink on Sbitx

 

Hi check this :


Bruno
Lw3DTR


El mié, 24 abr 2024 a las 21:44, Jim via (<jlckansas=[email protected]>) escribió:
Looking at the search function I see somethings about Vara and Winlink but am having a problem with How to install, How to run, and does it work?

Thank you
Jim
KE0VVU



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Re: Birdie at the top of the pass band #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Thanks Jared!

I was hoping somebody else was seeing it too.? It looks like you have exactly what I have.? I'm a little less worried now.

So for anybody else that wants to try it:

It's not audible and you won't see it unless you run your SPAN out to 25K.

Also, it might be WAD(Working As Designed).? That was really my question.? Is this the way it's supposed to be?? At least for now.? I still can't help but think it's desensing the radio somewhat.

Is this something were a few cheap capacitors can knock the birdies out and take this radio to the next level sensitivity?


Re: Birdie at the top of the pass band #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

I haven't tried running it on battery yet but, I use an old analog(non-switching) Astron power supply.? It shouldn't be producing any noise.? Although, I am looking to run on battery this weekend and kill the power to the house to see if I see anything change.? But, that test requires some prior coordination at my house.


Re: Birdie at the top of the pass band #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

I have the same issue.? It persists across all bands.? I've always just assumed this was an issue in the SDR and haven't really worried about it too much.? It doesn't seem to impact normal operations.?

I recently swapped out the 5V converter and that seems to have made a pretty significant difference in the noise floor though.??

Jared


Re: software build

 

Hi Mark.

It looks like you are building from a 64 bit OS. You can try loading the RC1 image on the SD card or simply install git and clone this repo ??

cd $HOME
sudo apt install git
git clone
cd sbitx
./update

Detailed instructions are in the readme file.



-JJ


Re: software build

 

When you get your sBITX it comes with a micro SD card already set up with the operating system and sBITX already loaded. I believe it is 32 bit system.?
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Aaron?


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Hi Jeff,

I would be interested in two with the parts included.?


73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

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Would be interested in 2 when you get it finished as I have 2 V2s

Gerry Sherman

Sent by the Windows 11 Thunderbird

On 2024-04-25 23:32, Jeff Duce wrote:

This is still a draft, need to double check the encoder footprint...? I'm not sure what encoder is in the radio, and the footprint I have needs a bit of tweaking to fit the right encoder.? (In theory, most any encoder would fit, but the tabs that hold it in place seem to vary a bit from one manufacturer to the next).? Also need to add more style points :-).? I'll be busy all weekend (might actually be on the radio for a bit), so I'll have to come back to this next week.? It's looking like price might be around $4usd+shipping for blank boards, and maybe ~$10 for board w/ parts (depending on which encoders are picked).? Very preliminary numbers.? I'll want to make sure I get a few and test it out before a order a bunch, so probably a few weeks away from being a real thing.


software build

 

Morning All

I'm late to the sbitx party but have ordered a board from HFSignals and am trying to build the software on/for my Pi4.

What baseline OS do we need? Is it 32 or 64 bit?

I'm struggling with a few bits and bobs - I've followed the install.txt but get stuck here:


pi@SBitx:~/sbitx $ sudo apt-get install libgtk+-3-dev
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
Reading state information... Done
Note, selecting 'libgtk-3-dev' for regex 'libgtk+-3-dev'
libgtk-3-dev is already the newest version (1:3.24.38-2~deb12u1+rpt4+rpi1).
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.

I also find when I try and ./build sbitx from a clone of the github I get this:

Fri 26 Apr 06:50:49 BST 2024
database is intact
compiling sbitx version v3.02 in /home/pi/sbitx
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/aarch64-linux-gnu/12/../../../../lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/../lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/../lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/aarch64-linux-gnu/12/../../../libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lwiringPi: No such file or directory
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/aarch64-linux-gnu/12/../../../../lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/../lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/../lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/aarch64-linux-gnu/12/../../../libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
/usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

Can I get some help please? I'm not clever enough to fix this :-(

Mark
G0MGX


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

This is still a draft, need to double check the encoder footprint...? I'm not sure what encoder is in the radio, and the footprint I have needs a bit of tweaking to fit the right encoder.? (In theory, most any encoder would fit, but the tabs that hold it in place seem to vary a bit from one manufacturer to the next).? Also need to add more style points :-).? I'll be busy all weekend (might actually be on the radio for a bit), so I'll have to come back to this next week.? It's looking like price might be around $4usd+shipping for blank boards, and maybe ~$10 for board w/ parts (depending on which encoders are picked).? Very preliminary numbers.? I'll want to make sure I get a few and test it out before a order a bunch, so probably a few weeks away from being a real thing.


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Turns out I do have some time today.? Pulled my radio apart and here's the correct schematic.?


While 5v is ran to pin 9, it doesn't connect to anything on the encoder board.? I should have a PCB drawn up shortly.


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

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Yeah I plan to use large ground planes on both sides with lots of vias to tie the two together.? I've thought about adding ferrite beads to the data lines as well, but not sure that would do anything.


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Scotty R <Theroadcalls1@...>
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 5:54:46 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [BITX20] sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3
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I have not spent much time looking at the encoder, but as I remember,? the extra components added were intended to debounce the contacts. Another individual said all debouncing was done in the? software. Not really sure if it matters which approach you take though. The goal is smooth reliability. My biggest concern is multiple birdies, presumably mixer byproducts. I think some rf shielding on the boards might help some. I hope this helps.?

Scotty WD4PYT?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 6:41 PM Jeff Duce via <jefe_de_estado=[email protected]> wrote:
So here's what I'm currently assume the schematic to look like.? I need to take my radio apart to verify, but I won't be able to do that for a few days.? If anyone else knows if this is correct, let me know.? There was discussion in another thread about adding caps and resistors.? Any thoughts there?


The area I'm not totally confident is the 5v line.... does that connect to the switch??


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

I have not spent much time looking at the encoder, but as I remember,? the extra components added were intended to debounce the contacts. Another individual said all debouncing was done in the? software. Not really sure if it matters which approach you take though. The goal is smooth reliability. My biggest concern is multiple birdies, presumably mixer byproducts. I think some rf shielding on the boards might help some. I hope this helps.?

Scotty WD4PYT?

On Thu, Apr 25, 2024, 6:41 PM Jeff Duce via <jefe_de_estado=[email protected]> wrote:
So here's what I'm currently assume the schematic to look like.? I need to take my radio apart to verify, but I won't be able to do that for a few days.? If anyone else knows if this is correct, let me know.? There was discussion in another thread about adding caps and resistors.? Any thoughts there?


The area I'm not totally confident is the 5v line.... does that connect to the switch??


Re: sBitx schematic for rotary encoder board? #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

So here's what I'm currently assume the schematic to look like.? I need to take my radio apart to verify, but I won't be able to do that for a few days.? If anyone else knows if this is correct, let me know.? There was discussion in another thread about adding caps and resistors.? Any thoughts there?


The area I'm not totally confident is the 5v line.... does that connect to the switch??


Re: Birdie at the top of the pass band #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

Have you tried running on battery power to eliminate power line/supply noise?

73
Evan
AC9TU


Birdie at the top of the pass band #sBitx #sBITX_v3

 

I have a persistent birdie at the top of the passband.? It shows up on all bands and doses not move when tuning.? It is not audible because it is too high in frequency to be heard but, it shows up in the passband.? I can't help but think it is desensing the receiver.

Does everybody have this birdie or is it just me?? Is this WAD(Working As Designed)?

I connected a dummy load to make sure it wasn't something from the outside world.

These are the pictures before I replaced the noisy 5V converter.? Replacing did clean up a lot of the background grass but didn't get rid of this birdie.

I


Here I tuned around 21.167 to show all of the other audio moved but not the birdie.