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Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

In the circuitry. Look at the resistoe capacitors around the T/R circuitry of 2N7000s.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 7:50 AM Mike Johnshoy via <mike.johnshoy=[email protected]> wrote:
thanks ... where is that done in the sbitx?

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 09:55 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

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> Mike, the Rx line is derived by inverting and delaying the tx line.
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Mike KB2ML






Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

thanks ... where is that done in the sbitx?

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 09:55 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:


Mike, the Rx line is derived by inverting and delaying the tx line.
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Mike KB2ML


Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

Mike, the Rx line is derived by inverting and delaying the tx line.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 7:20 AM Mike Johnshoy via <mike.johnshoy=[email protected]> wrote:
Ashar, I have been studying the tr_switch code sin sbitx.c.? I see code like
digitalWrite(TX_LINE, HIGH);
which seems to control the TR switch (disconnecting the rcvr from the PA) and controlling the power to the PA.

What is the rx line you mention?

Mike


On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 08:36 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:

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> Be careful to time the T to R transitions carefully. When starting tx, the rx
> line should go down, you wait a millisecond or so and then the tx line powers
> up.
> The transition from T to R should be similar. Power donw the T line, wait for
> a millsec or so for everything to discharge power, then turn on the R line.
>


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Mike KB2ML






Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

Ashar, I have been studying the tr_switch code sin sbitx.c. I see code like
digitalWrite(TX_LINE, HIGH);
which seems to control the TR switch (disconnecting the rcvr from the PA) and controlling the power to the PA.

What is the rx line you mention?

Mike

On Sun, Oct 27, 2024 at 08:36 PM, Ashhar Farhan wrote:


Be careful to time the T to R transitions carefully. When starting tx, the rx
line should go down, you wait a millisecond or so and then the tx line powers
up.
The transition from T to R should be similar. Power donw the T line, wait for
a millsec or so for everything to discharge power, then turn on the R line.
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Mike KB2ML


Re: sBITX out of band transmit

 

Thanks for the advice. I will take a look.
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Aaron?


Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

Ashhar,?
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Thanks a lot for the advice!! Taking a closer look at the schematic of the gpa10 amplifier, it looks like the pa gets completly disconected when on rx. But still have to attention to the oscillations. The amp uses 1 rd16 to drive 2 rd16. So i dont want to damage those.
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Juan WP3DN


Re: sBITX out of band transmit

 

In the sbitx.c, there is an array that defines the band edges. You can edit them to get to your desired frequency. Remember to rebuild the program after editing it.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 1:57 AM Gary Eldridge - KC8UD via <gary.video=[email protected]> wrote:
On the hardware side of things you have to consider band pass filters which are band specific.


Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

Juan,
There is lurking danger with the t/r circuitry.
As the entire receiver is bidirectional, when you go from transmit back to receive, there can a millisecond or less of time when the rx power line capacitors still hold power and the tx circuitry is powered up.
This can cause the entire power amp and the if aml to go into self oscillations. These can be very large oscillations that can blow up the finals.
Be careful to time the T to R transitions carefully. When starting tx, the rx line should go down, you wait a millisecond or so and then the tx line powers up.
The transition from T to R should be similar. Power donw the T line, wait for a millsec or so for everything to discharge power, then turn on the R line.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 5:45 AM WP3DN via <3voltios=[email protected]> wrote:
I meant to say from 30m to 6m


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

The ideal place to tap would be between the crystal filter and the mixer.
This can be a very interesting and powerful second receiver.
Here is how it will work.
1. Consider that an rtl sdr is connected to the point between the if filter and the mixer.
2. Let us assume that the main radio is tuned to 7 mhz. The local oscillator is now at 47 mhz.
3. If the rtl sdr's own sdr, running seperately is now? tuned to 68 mhz.
4. The rtl sdr can now listen to 21 mhz band (68-47 = 21 mhz). It can also display a spectrum of upto 2 mhz wide.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2024, 12:37 AM William Hemmingsen via <lee.hemmingsen=[email protected]> wrote:
thanks


Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

I meant to say from 30m to 6m


Re: Sbitx bandpass filter

 

Hi everyone,?
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Today to test the amp, did setup the lpf bits manually from 10m to 6m. Had to add 20db amp between the 2nd if output and the bandpass filter board. Power output is 14-15w up to 10m and 11-12w at 6m and 8m. Too bad we dont have the 8m band yet.
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Have to work on the tx rx switch and the lpf band controll.
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Need to sit down and learn about the i2c. If I can send the frequency to an arduino, then control the bpf and lpf bits.?
The amp board also have the swr bridge. So replacing the attiny with an arduino and also control the filter is the way to go.
Still lots to learn.
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Juan WP3DN


Re: sBITX out of band transmit

 

On the hardware side of things you have to consider band pass filters which are band specific.


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

thanks


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

The IF frequency is approximately 40 MHz. ?I am not sure of the actual frequency. ?It would be the center of the 40 MHz crystal filter which should be a few KHz less that 40 MHz.?

73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

Another question.? If I wanted to tap in an external SDR for more spectrum bandwidth.? I'm assuming J7 before the crystal filter would be the place to connect.? What is the IF frequency?


sBITX out of band transmit

 

A good buddy of mine got an sBITX V3 and I upgraded his and mine with V4.1.
Now he is really wanting me to set his up to transmit outside our frequency privileges. I'm pretty sure that is something beyond my skill set but I said that I would at least look into it. So just wondering, if that would be software or hardware.?
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'72
Aaron?


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

Thanks!? I knew there was an answer.


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

Hi William,
The limiting factor is the 40MHz crystal filter, not the audio codec.? Farhan used the higher-frequency 40MHz crystals to accommodate the 25 MHz bandwidth.? The original uBiTx used 12 MHz crystals that were limited to 3 KHz bandwidth, then tried 25 MHz, and ultimately went with the 40 MHz crystals to get the maximum bandwidth on the waterfall.
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73
Evan
AC9TU


Re: Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

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Processing power of the RPi in the radio? That would be my initial thought...

Ken, N2VIP

On Oct 27, 2024, at 12:09, William Hemmingsen <lee.hemmingsen@...> wrote:

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The audio codec supports up to 96k, so wondering why the sbitx is limited to 25k?


Why is sbitx spectrum limited to 25k?

 

The audio codec supports up to 96k, so wondering why the sbitx is limited to 25k?