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Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

Vince Vielhaber
 

What we really need is an antennas group. Oh, wait...

Vince.

On 08/28/2018 09:56 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io wrote:
I was using the 80-10M version of the antenna until a storm two weeks
ago blew it into the next state. (My fault, not the antenna's.) I have
worked the world on 40M CW and SSB with both 100W and QRP. I just bought
another one, which Al and I will put up and soon as we put JackAl to
bed. Clearly, I think it's a good antenna for my situation (i.e., an XYL
who won't abide a tower and beam).

Jack, W8TEE


On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 9:48:21 AM EDT, Ajay Kashikar
<ajaykashikar@...> wrote:


Myantenna is selling a similar product. EFHW 49:1 does not require
radials which makes it very attractive. Can some one (who has used
Myantenna or 49:1 home brewed EFHW antenna) share the experience if it
was not working or any remidial action taken (added tuner) and which
made it functional. Thanks in advance.
If this combination EFHW (without radials) and uBitx works it becomes a
great go to and a field day kit.
TIA
73
VU3YWK, Ajay
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Michigan VHF Corp.


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

Ajay Kashikar
 

Thanks a lot Warren,
This sums it all. A EFHW antenna with 49:1 transformer, without radials with a tuner is a simple solution which seems to be workable solution.
Encouraged with this enlightenment :) I'll start to build one (experiment)
Thanks a ton
73,
VU3YWK Ajay


ubitx consensus for 2n3904 smt replacement

Rod Davis
 

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Hi All,

What is the consensus for a SMT replacement for the 2n3904?

I note the MMBT10 only has Vceo of 25 vs 40 for the 2n3n04.

I really do not want to tack leaded parts onto the board.

My latest ubitx is only getting 2w out on 15m, and i want to improve
the 45 Mhz transistors, and the tx drivers.


Rod KM6SN



Re: Harmonics measured by Warren. How bad?

 

ps ofcom reduces qrm by limiting power to 400 watts for a full licence. intermediate are limited to 50 watts and foundation to 10 watts.. i thinkt that is the big linear amps which cause qrm

terry gm4dso


Re: Harmonics measured by Warren. How bad?

 

i agree that this approach is not ideal but without lab test equipment it is the best available and is within the requirements of the uk ofcom.
73 de terry gm4dso


uBitx Unfiltered

Warren Allgyer
 

I made the attached files for my own reference during work on my uBitx which I have now suspended. But I thought they might be helpful for those still engaged in trying to filter the radio with external LPF/BPF combinations. This was my uBitx with the filters completely removed so I could see what parameters would be needed for an external filter to work satisfactorily. There are four slides included. Here are my comments on each:

80,40,20 meter CW
- Power level set on each band individually to 5 watts
- Green display line represents the -43 dBc threshold
- Second harmonic on both 80 and 40 is somewhat problematic as are odd harmonics out to 13th

80,40,20 meter SSB
- Power level set on each band individually to 5 watts CW then 1 kHz tone input level adjusted to produce the same 5 watts
- Green display line represents the -43 dBc threshold
- Second harmonic on both 80 and 40 is somewhat problematic as are odd harmonics out to 9th

17, 15, 10 meter CW
- Power level set on each band individually to 2 watts
- Green display line represents the -43 dBc threshold
- Harmonics can all be removed with a simple 34 MHz LPF. The filter included in the uBitx is more than adequate

17, 15, 10 meter SSB
- Power level set on each band individually to 2 watts CW then 1 kHz tone input level adjusted to produce the same 2 watts
- Green display line represents the -43 dBc threshold
- 17 meter spurs represented by markers 1 and 2 are problematic because only a close spaced, single band BPF can be used to remove them.
- 15 meter spurs at the low end need to be addressed.
- A single filter cannot cover these bands because of the close spaced 17 meter spurs.
WA8TOD


Re: Nextion 3.2 for CEC 1.097 #ubitx

 

Dear John I have already done a image conversionfor for the 3.5" Nextion with Microsoft Paint but I do not know how to change the x,y,h,w . If you have the same LCD I can send you the files.

Nikos Magafourakis

SV9CVJ


Re: Wow... 15 volts in and a bunch out..

 

Yeah, 40 meters not so great for sure with qrp. I have worked dx on 40 with 100w. 20, 17, 15...gets progressively better. Agreed a proper size antenna is the way to go if possible


Re: Is this IMD?

 

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Warren,

Guess I now agree that it¡¯s audio distortion creeping in somewhere.? I¡¯ll have to try tracing it down.?

Mike

K5ESS

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Warren Allgyer
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 5:01 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Is this IMD?

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Mike

I don't think this is IMD per se. It looks to me like harmonics of the modulating tone. Those harmonics could be present in the tone itself or they could be generated by non-linearities in the audio chain.

For IMD measurements you need two tones with the pair centered in your filter passband and the tones must not be harmonically related. The difference between one of the tones and its adjacent product tone is the figure of merit for IMD. Your span and RBW are ok although if you have a lower RBW, 30 or 10 Hz, you will get better resolution and may see some close in products that are covered up at 100 Hz.

W


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

Warren Allgyer
 

Ajay,

This was addressed in this thread but I probably don't blame you if you don't want to read through several hundred posts and comments to find it.

The EFHW antenna with the 49:1 transformer works reasonably well on any band where the wire itself is resonant. That is not due to the resonance so much as to the very high impedance presented by a resonant half wave and the consequent good match to the 49:1 transformer. The reason the MyAntennas antenna MAY ( I have not tested it but I understand what they have done) is the wire is supplied with a six turn coil that effectively lengthens the antenna on higher, harmonically related bands. I suspect therefore it presents a resonant load on 80, 40, 20, and 10 meters. On bands where the wire/coil combination is not resonant, 60, 30, 17, and 12 meters, the system will show a deceptively low VSWR due to losses in the now mismatched transformer. The antenna will perform but as much as 90% of your output power will be converted to heat on these bands rather than radiating.

The homebrew antenna/wire does not use the carefully engineered coil and is therefore resonant on only one band, if even that. So this antenna, as recommended on the FB group, completely relies upon losses in the transformer to produce artificially low VSWR while converting the majority of your power into heat. If the wire is carefully cut to half wave resonance on any one band the system will show reasonable losses. It will not work well on harmonically related bands because of the shortening effect of multiple half waves in series which moves the frequency of resonant harmonics higher than the normal integer multiples.

In both cases, the MyAntenna wire and the homebrew wire, a simple LC tuner represents a better solution than the transformer. Typical losses using a tuner are normally well under 1 dB or less than 5%. Typical losses using a 49:1 transformer with a resonant wire are 1-2 dB (10 - 20%). Typical losses using a 49:1 transformer on bands where the wire is not resonant can easily be 10 dB or 90%.

In all cases a tuner represents the best performance.?

WA8TOD


Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

It seems like an awful lot of added effort and complexity with little gain to me.


Can we start using SUBGROUPS? uBiTX, biTX40, QRPKITS, Original BiTX20, Homebrew, Other?

 

How about it? ? It is getting very hard to search and find posts just for the radio I have. ?


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

Jack Purdum
 

I was using the 80-10M version of the antenna until a storm two weeks ago blew it into the next state. (My fault, not the antenna's.) I have worked the world on 40M CW and SSB with both 100W and QRP. I just bought another one, which Al and I will put up and soon as we put JackAl to bed. Clearly, I think it's a good antenna for my situation (i.e., an XYL who won't abide a tower and beam).

Jack, W8TEE


On Tuesday, August 28, 2018, 9:48:21 AM EDT, Ajay Kashikar <ajaykashikar@...> wrote:


Myantenna is selling a similar product. EFHW 49:1 does not require radials which makes it very attractive. Can some one (who has used Myantenna or 49:1 home brewed EFHW antenna) share the experience if it was not working or any remidial action taken (added tuner) and which made it functional. Thanks in advance.
If this combination? EFHW (without radials) and uBitx works it becomes a great go to and a field day kit.
TIA
73
VU3YWK, Ajay??


Re: Wow... 15 volts in and a bunch out..

Gordon Gibby
 

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Yeah, a mag loop will do a great job of attenuating not only the spurs or harmonics into oblivion----and almost that destination for your desired signal as well!!? ?I've seen efficiency figures of -10 dB.? ?

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Hoping that's not true foryou.....


Gordon




From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Brent Seres <brentseres1@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2018 9:47 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Wow... 15 volts in and a bunch out..
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Hi Bo

With my experience using mag loops, I would expect that the narrow tuning of the beast might effectively take care of any spurs or harmonics. I have one that tunes 40- 15, and unless the tuning is very close, I can't hear anything on RX.?

Brent


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

Ajay Kashikar
 

Myantenna is selling a similar product. EFHW 49:1 does not require radials which makes it very attractive. Can some one (who has used Myantenna or 49:1 home brewed EFHW antenna) share the experience if it was not working or any remidial action taken (added tuner) and which made it functional. Thanks in advance.
If this combination? EFHW (without radials) and uBitx works it becomes a great go to and a field day kit.
TIA
73
VU3YWK, Ajay??


Re: Wow... 15 volts in and a bunch out..

 

Hi Bo

With my experience using mag loops, I would expect that the narrow tuning of the beast might effectively take care of any spurs or harmonics. I have one that tunes 40- 15, and unless the tuning is very close, I can't hear anything on RX.?

Brent


Re: Wow... 15 volts in and a bunch out..

 

Good job W4OP!


Il 24/ago/2018 00:28, "Bo Barry" <bobarr@...> ha scritto:
Having a blast on 20, with a W4OP mag loop indoors.?


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

 

Yes, good data makes all the difference, and I really appreciate all the excellent info presented here. I remember seeing an ad for an antenna which recommended a long feed line to keep the swr down. I fully agree, an LC match at the feed point? is the way to go. FWIW, the best all around simple multi band antenna I've used was a 40 meter doublet fed with parallel line and balanced tuner, followed by end fed with an LC? match. Just my 2 cents

Brent


Re: #ubitx. Great EFHW group on Facebook

 

Indeed I think the threads here have been much more informative than the Facebook group and those magic videos.

Il 28/ago/2018 11:52, "Warren Allgyer" <allgyer@...> ha scritto:
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> Most, if not all, of the design information presented on that FB group is simply wrong. The gimmicky transformer that is advocated works well only with truly resonant half wave wires and only on the bands on which the system is resonant. And even then it is not nearly as good as a simple LC tuner. The reason that group keeps going and propagating their rubbish is they systematically exclude and block anyone who produces actual data that refutes their ridiculous claims. Read the EFHW trail here and you will be much better informed than if you rely on those videos and the group chat.
>
> WA8TOD


Re: Is this IMD?

Warren Allgyer
 

Mike

I don't think this is IMD per se. It looks to me like harmonics of the modulating tone. Those harmonics could be present in the tone itself or they could be generated by non-linearities in the audio chain.

For IMD measurements you need two tones with the pair centered in your filter passband and the tones must not be harmonically related. The difference between one of the tones and its adjacent product tone is the figure of merit for IMD. Your span and RBW are ok although if you have a lower RBW, 30 or 10 Hz, you will get better resolution and may see some close in products that are covered up at 100 Hz.

W