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Re: Want to increase audio gain in Q70 stage of Ubitx - ideas?


 

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This is all very good¡­ IF¡­ you know the gain needed for the stage.? If not, it¡¯s trial and error until you figure that out.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gordon Gibby
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 1:46 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [BITX20] Want to increase audio gain in Q70 stage of Ubitx - ideas?

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Transistor Q 70 is operated in a very simple low level amplifier configuration. ?That¡¯s a very simple biasing arrangement, identical to what we used in our VOX circuitry in our home brew Signalink ?equivalent ?digital interface

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The input current to the base will be equal to the input voltage divided by the equivalent input impedance of the stage. ?

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The collector current will be equal to the HFE of the transistor times the input current.

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The output voltage will be equal to the collector resistor times the collector ?current.

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So the output voltage is equal to

Rc times hfe times vin / Rin

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Gain of the stage is equal to output voltage divided by input ?voltage and therefore is equal to

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Collector resistor times HFE, divided by input resistance.

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And in general it¡¯s going to be pretty high! ?I don¡¯t know the input impedance but you could guess maybe 1000 ohms ?or actually measure it by putting a 1K resistor in series and seeing how much the output voltage drops and doing a little math.

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It¡¯s a simple biasing circuit, if the collector voltage rises a bit then more bass current will be injected to bring the collector voltage lower. ? It¡¯s not as fancy as a voltage resistor divider, but it works if you are using very very small signals and therefore of the biasing point of the collector can be off a volt or ?two. and not matter

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Here are some links to educational systems I created to teach this kind of stuff to our local ARES group:

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Gordon

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On Aug 10, 2019, at 14:14, David Feldman via Groups.Io <wb0gaz@...> wrote:

That's a cool idea - that would give me a way of determining the existing and desired amount of gain, which takes me back to the desire to reconfigure Q70 stage gain...

I suspect Q70 and it's two biasing resistors (one in C-B path and one in C-Vdd path) have gain controlled by the two resistors (when I changed to a higher-gain transistor type, the circuit gain barely changed), but I've been searching and so far haven't found a model/analysis of this sort of amplifier stage, even though it's really only 3 parts (!)

Dave



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