Thanks Dr Fred! That is the most appropriate response.
I drafted a response to Simon but chose to sleep on it before sending. Glad I did. And I am blessed by your reminder to turn the other cheek.
Freedom of religion is important for us all, especially in this international forum.
And Jack has been a wonderful help, along with so many others on this list.
-John
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On Dec 17, 2017, at 02:01, Dr Fred Hambrecht <w4jle@...> wrote:
I am praying for him that his heart may be lightened and the darkness of doubt be removed.
v/r Fred W4JLE
-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vince Vielhaber Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 21:54 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BITX20] ?BITX as a Tool for Recruiting New Hams
Don't bother Mike. He's just a snowflake in search of his playdough and safe space.
Vince.
On 12/16/2017 08:42 PM, Michael Hagen wrote: Hey, Get Off of It!
Jack is a Real Nice Guy!
Read His Books, read his Emails.
Everyone Loves Jack in Colorado!
Go find Political Correct Folks to find your Friends.
We are NOT!
You are on the Wrong Forum!
No MAS, Warmingly?
Mike, WA6ISP
On 12/16/2017 5:32 PM, Simon Thompson wrote: Jack
You come across as a smart guy.
This is the best amateur radio forum on the internet, bar none. One of the reasons it is so good is that it is apolitical. If someone comes on the forum prattling on about how he works at a Christian institution, and he can teach even though he is not qualified, and how the education system in your country is paralyzed, these are comments that have nothing to do with amateur radio. This is an amateur radio forum. I would also add that evangelical Christianity appears to be tearing your country apart, with its support for pedophilia and sexual assault and racism re. Roy Moore, and I don¡¯t want to read about someone's support for Evangelical Christian institutions or their Evangelical Christian beliefs on this forum. Regardless of your country¡¯s tolerance for unfettered free speech, which gives you the idiocy of the Ku Klux Klan, Donald Trump, ¡°alternative facts,¡± Birtherism, and an incomprehensible belief and reliance on a Sky Boss, or Flying Spaghetti Monster, or whatever else you want to call it, this is an amateur radio forum, and It should be devoted to amateur radio, and not an individual¡¯s political or religious beliefs,
On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 5:04 PM Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@... <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Simon:
I think your comment is a bit harsh and 1) I did not see it as a religious or political comment, but rather in line with my comments, and 2) this is a Forum and not air waves regulated by the FCC. Expressing one's opinion "off the air" is a Constitutional right in the US protected by the First Amendment.
Jack, W8TEE
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Simon Thompson <simonthompson67@... <mailto:simonthompson67@...>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> *Sent:* Saturday, December 16, 2017 7:41 PM
*Subject:* Re: [BITX20] ?BITX as a Tool for Recruiting New Hams
Please keep your political/religious commentary off this forum. It is not, as you should know, being a licensed amateur, appropriate to discussions of amateur radio. You should know it, because it is a condition of your license.
Simon VE7SXS
On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 9:13 AM Werner Vavken <werner.vavken@... <mailto:werner.vavken@...>> wrote:
Thanks, Jack. I have been working at private, accredited Christian schools for the pat 14 years and they allow people from colleges & industry to teach as long as they show "some progress towards getting certified" as a high school teacher with the ACSI. That¡¯s quite easy, really.
I don¡¯t have a teaching credential either, just a BSEE, extensive MSEE course work and a MaEd.
Sadly the public school system is paralyzed with this thinking that a teacher MUST have a teaching credential to teach. There should be other ways to become a public school qualified teacher.
Warmly,
WERNER G VAVKEN BSEE, MaEd STEM Director Rancho Christian School 31300 Rancho Community Way <,+CA+92592+Office:+951&entry=gmail&source=g> Temecula, CA 92592
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Office: 951 <,+CA+92592+Office:+951&entry=gmail&source=g>-303-1408 x6157 Cell: 408-375-6165
On Dec 15, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@... <mailto:jjpurdum@...>> wrote:
Werner:
That is so cool! I checked with a local high school when I was in Indiana about teaching a ham radio class as part of the STEM system. Even though I have a Ph.D. and 40 years of university teaching, I was told by the Principal I was not "properly qualified" to teach a HS class in IN. Maybe I should try again, as I now live in OH.
Dennis is a wonderful person to work with. I know just enough EE stuff to make him tear his hair out when I ask a question. Still, he has the patience of Job and can always frame an answer I can understand...and that's a /real /talent!
Thanks for this email...maybe I can fool some OH administrators into letting me in the classroom.
73, Jack, W8TEE
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* WERNER G VAVKEN <wernervavken@... <mailto:wernervavken@...>> *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> *Sent:* Friday, December 15, 2017 11:42 AM *Subject:* Re: [BITX20] ?BITX as a Tool for Recruiting New Hams Jack, you are spot on. It is mission critical to get new hams ACTIVE both on the air (including HF) and also to get them on the road to get their hands dirty building hardware, including antennas. The uBitx is a great way to do this that I will use next month¡see below. I ordered 8 of them and 8 plastic cases from BangGood.
I am a retired EE with over 30+ years experience in designing hardware and radio systems from audio thru 40GHz. Teaching is my new passion. I have been teaching ham courses (and how to put science experiments on the ISS) at the high school level for over seven years. My ham classes (disguised with the name Satellite Tracking) is a high school level ¡°science elective¡± and I offer it over three semesters to allow students to earn their Tech, General and Extra class licenses. Doing it over a 4+ month period, for each level, I actually get to TEACH the relevant material, have students build stuff and get them on the air. They also learn a lot about tracking satellites.
Every one of my new ham student ¡°earns" an Alinco DJ-G7 triband HT and an Elk LPA Antenna to track satellites if they pass the Tech exam. They also build an EggBeater antenna I designed and presented at recent Pacificon events,
Next Semester they will each build one of the uBitx transceivers and a 40M dipole and they WILL get on HF!
BTW, Jack, we have a mutually close friend, Dennis -W6DQ, I manage the Collins Collectors Association West Coast Friday night NET on 3895 at 7PM. He is one of my NET control operators for that net!
Thanks for all you do for our Ham Radio hobby and, of course, your contributions to this uBitx, etc.
73¡¯²õ
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On Dec 15, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Jack Purdum via Groups.Io <jjpurdum@... <mailto:jjpurdum@...>> wrote:
I changed the topic to narrow the focus. You're right, Joe, the social media sites have a lock on young people. My club gives the FCC exams every month (except Dec.) for free and we always have people show up; sometimes as many as three dozen. Most are going for the Tech license to get their toe wet. Then they buy a 2M HT and we never see them again. I did run into one guy almost a year later and asked how he was enjoying his license. He said: "I haven't done anything for the past several months. It doesn't even let me do what my cell phone does." We need to get Tech's more than just a small slice of 10M in the HF spectrum. Otherwise, I think they are missing out on 90% of what ham radio has to offer. When I was a Novice, we had small chunks of HF (e.g., 40M) to play with. True, you were rock-bound and limited to 75W and CW, but I spent almost all of my time on 40M. Britain has had more success than we have with young people, and I think part of the reason is because they give their Tech-equivalent hams small slices of spectrum on all bands, including HF. They are limited to 5W, but at least they can chase DX. Other than the rare atmospheric events, DX on 2M is a couple of counties away with the HT that most end up buying.
I look around at my club and I can almost hear the arteries calcifying. I can say that 'cuz I'm two years younger than dirt so I know the aging membership issues quite well. We need some younger members; perhaps younger than those who are recently married and starting their families. The real solution: I don't know, but there are things we can do. I have a FB account, but probably use it twice a year. I'm not on Twitter. I need to root around there for a while and see what I can do for the cause.
Jack, W8TEE
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