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Re: bitx40 newbie build, if touched IRF510 switches and locks to transmit, takes 3A


 

I had a similar problem. My board was unstable and I fried one IRF.

After much fiddling I found that the mini coax cable that I soldered to the board which ended in a BNC was the problem. After I changed the
cable all problems vanished, The ground on the crimp of BNC was bad..

I suspect the same thing. Floating ground on the output line. The heat sink is also RF live..

73, Raj

At 28-02-2017, you wrote:

It is strange.
? Perhaps the op may have to check his wiring.
? The bias mechanism used by Mr.Farhan appears general standard. .
In the absence of Tx?? (PTT) command,
? the mosFET would see a termination of 47+party of the 10K pot.
? I suppose it would work out to say 2.7K?? Under these conditions , a charge can't remain on its gate.
? However, One?? should prevent touching mosFETs by finger.
Again .IMHO, the permanent power?? to IRF510 and controling it by bias supply from Tx power (while PTT is ON") is the?? standard of the HAM designs as most of us Know.
Sarma / vu3zmv
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On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:28 AM, Andrew Kasurak <va2qch@...> wrote:

Thank you both for the feedback. Yes, when I said into transmission, that was probably inaccurate. There is a similar sound on the speaker as when I switch to transmit, but when I look at the output, I don't see the RF transmission I expect. I am measuring power use for the whole thing at once. This is all when hooked up to the dummy load (it's 51.2 ohm, not 50, but this is close enough? I built it in a metal coffee can). I have not tried transmitting, or touching the heatsink 'transmitting' [pseudotransmit henceforth] on the magloop (so I'm not sure if it's different. I found this high current mode when trying to get an accurate frequency measurement..).


The gate (pin1) seems to be at 7--10v when it goes to pseudotransmit, from 0v while just receiving. I'm not super sure on that one though, as getting leads in there makes it go even without my hands nearby. For clarification, from before, when I touched it, I was not also touching any other part of the circuit, or plugged in devices. Nor was I using the PTT button. Touching was also via two layers of electrical tape. I believe the 3A draw, as the heatsink got hot quickly. Pin 1 of relay k1 goes to 0.9v at pseudotransmit. Pseudotransmit happens more frequently once it's been triggered once, even when the device has been shut off (may be a heat thing, or some stray capacitance memory?).

I did grab a couple more irf510's, I've heard this usage is a bit hard on them.


As I follow it, the suppressor resistor you are suggesting is from gate (pin 1 of IRF510) to ground? Is this ( for the grenade RF section. Some of the pictures on this site do not load.) the kind of fix (1k resistor) the one you were referring to? Would you recommend the 10k drain-gate resistor too? In message? ? #22548? you say 10 ohms, this seems very low to me, is this correct? From that webpage, the 'miniboots 5W PA' also has a setup from gate to ground, but it is a parallel of 2k7 with 10r in series with a 1n4740. There is also the section 'Protect your MOSFET final stage' which details a zener + 10 ohm. Is this attacking the same problem? I get the impression it is more to limit regular usage than accidental triggering.


I'm going to go ahead and give the 1k gate-gnd a go while I wait for any replies :)


Thanks,

Andrew (VA2QCH)




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