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Re: The last hurdle (one person's last hurdle)

 

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I didn¡¯t see your responses at first Sandra (beyond the email asking for thoughts that might help/stories of our own hurdles we bumped against) but I just read them and found them to be very true in my own experience and a helpful reminder. Thank you. Your writing has changed my life over the last few years!?


On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:06 PM, Miji Kent <mijeezie@...> wrote:

?I would say two or three of the hurdles we have felt severely ¡°bumped up against¡± personally (husband and I) would be screens/media (like not filtering so heavily what they can see) but majorly strong language and ¡°junk food¡± as we were both homeschooled and grew up in very religious families where it was so not okay (to show a lot of anger let alone ever curse/use strong language) or do it in a joking manner. We also grew up with a lot of shame and control around food in general but specifically sweets/junk food/etc and a lot of shaming if we ever got sick/had cavities/got hyper/etc ¡°shouldn¡¯t have eaten so much sugar¡±.?

I think perhaps I personally also have the specific thing of ¡°my kids spending their money on treats¡± (even though we try to provide an abundance of it as well as lots of healthy options) because I was shamed for that as a kid, when I had pocket money.?


On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Miji Kent <mijeezie@...> wrote:

?I feel like what Sue Elvis shared in her books (she has two but I think it was ¡°curious unschoolers¡± - the other is ¡°radical unschool love¡±) helped me some around this area. She ¡°held on¡± to ¡°some of the basics¡± for a while and then later shifted (she had 7 children I believe? So shifted as they grew) and reevaluated her choices/regretted ¡°holding on¡± to the ¡°maths¡±.?


On Aug 21, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:

?On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 02:24 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
I'm talking about the bare minimum of helping them learn the very basics:? this is how you write (forming letters, I mean; not sentences) "

"This is how you write..."

Wait.? I'm not forming letters.? I'm touching a keyboard on a laptop computer.? There are other ways to get these words into these messages, but nobody is "forming letters."?

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-=-or knowing their basic math facts-=-

WOOP!? WOOP!!? The alarm goes off.

"Their"¡ªthat one Individual child's, or those two or three children's (I don't know this mom's details, so picture your own)¡ª"facts"?

Facts just are. I don't have my own basic math facts.? There ARE mathematical realities.? Some I understand well, and some less clearly, and yet I grew up and reproduced.? :-)

To the original questioner:? Please read back through the question. It's well written grammatically and the punctuation and spelling are good, and so I don't feel bad about suggesting going to the next level:? phrases, terminology, word choice.

Others might want to read that as an exercise in seeing how word choices revel clues to thoughts and beliefs.??

None of this should stress or hurt anybody.? It's just words and ideas.??

You're all probably sitting in a comfortable and familiar place, safe.? Don't be afraid.

?

Sandra


and the concepts of arithmetic:-=-

And if that child is not yet writing, the for the mom to think to address the child as "you" and say "this is how you write" is a clue to the mom's blockage, maybe.? She thinks there is a way that THAT child must/should/will or should be / will be "forming letters."? In order to write.

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Re: The last hurdle (one person's last hurdle)

 

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I would say two or three of the hurdles we have felt severely ¡°bumped up against¡± personally (husband and I) would be screens/media (like not filtering so heavily what they can see) but majorly strong language and ¡°junk food¡± as we were both homeschooled and grew up in very religious families where it was so not okay (to show a lot of anger let alone ever curse/use strong language) or do it in a joking manner. We also grew up with a lot of shame and control around food in general but specifically sweets/junk food/etc and a lot of shaming if we ever got sick/had cavities/got hyper/etc ¡°shouldn¡¯t have eaten so much sugar¡±.?

I think perhaps I personally also have the specific thing of ¡°my kids spending their money on treats¡± (even though we try to provide an abundance of it as well as lots of healthy options) because I was shamed for that as a kid, when I had pocket money.?


On Aug 21, 2023, at 6:02 PM, Miji Kent <mijeezie@...> wrote:

?I feel like what Sue Elvis shared in her books (she has two but I think it was ¡°curious unschoolers¡± - the other is ¡°radical unschool love¡±) helped me some around this area. She ¡°held on¡± to ¡°some of the basics¡± for a while and then later shifted (she had 7 children I believe? So shifted as they grew) and reevaluated her choices/regretted ¡°holding on¡± to the ¡°maths¡±.?


On Aug 21, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:

?On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 02:24 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
I'm talking about the bare minimum of helping them learn the very basics:? this is how you write (forming letters, I mean; not sentences) "

"This is how you write..."

Wait.? I'm not forming letters.? I'm touching a keyboard on a laptop computer.? There are other ways to get these words into these messages, but nobody is "forming letters."?

?

-=-or knowing their basic math facts-=-

WOOP!? WOOP!!? The alarm goes off.

"Their"¡ªthat one Individual child's, or those two or three children's (I don't know this mom's details, so picture your own)¡ª"facts"?

Facts just are. I don't have my own basic math facts.? There ARE mathematical realities.? Some I understand well, and some less clearly, and yet I grew up and reproduced.? :-)

To the original questioner:? Please read back through the question. It's well written grammatically and the punctuation and spelling are good, and so I don't feel bad about suggesting going to the next level:? phrases, terminology, word choice.

Others might want to read that as an exercise in seeing how word choices revel clues to thoughts and beliefs.??

None of this should stress or hurt anybody.? It's just words and ideas.??

You're all probably sitting in a comfortable and familiar place, safe.? Don't be afraid.

?

Sandra


and the concepts of arithmetic:-=-

And if that child is not yet writing, the for the mom to think to address the child as "you" and say "this is how you write" is a clue to the mom's blockage, maybe.? She thinks there is a way that THAT child must/should/will or should be / will be "forming letters."? In order to write.

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Re: The last hurdle (one person's last hurdle)

 

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I feel like what Sue Elvis shared in her books (she has two but I think it was ¡°curious unschoolers¡± - the other is ¡°radical unschool love¡±) helped me some around this area. She ¡°held on¡± to ¡°some of the basics¡± for a while and then later shifted (she had 7 children I believe? So shifted as they grew) and reevaluated her choices/regretted ¡°holding on¡± to the ¡°maths¡±.?


On Aug 21, 2023, at 5:00 PM, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:

?On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 02:24 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
I'm talking about the bare minimum of helping them learn the very basics:? this is how you write (forming letters, I mean; not sentences) "

"This is how you write..."

Wait.? I'm not forming letters.? I'm touching a keyboard on a laptop computer.? There are other ways to get these words into these messages, but nobody is "forming letters."?

?

-=-or knowing their basic math facts-=-

WOOP!? WOOP!!? The alarm goes off.

"Their"¡ªthat one Individual child's, or those two or three children's (I don't know this mom's details, so picture your own)¡ª"facts"?

Facts just are. I don't have my own basic math facts.? There ARE mathematical realities.? Some I understand well, and some less clearly, and yet I grew up and reproduced.? :-)

To the original questioner:? Please read back through the question. It's well written grammatically and the punctuation and spelling are good, and so I don't feel bad about suggesting going to the next level:? phrases, terminology, word choice.

Others might want to read that as an exercise in seeing how word choices revel clues to thoughts and beliefs.??

None of this should stress or hurt anybody.? It's just words and ideas.??

You're all probably sitting in a comfortable and familiar place, safe.? Don't be afraid.

?

Sandra


and the concepts of arithmetic:-=-

And if that child is not yet writing, the for the mom to think to address the child as "you" and say "this is how you write" is a clue to the mom's blockage, maybe.? She thinks there is a way that THAT child must/should/will or should be / will be "forming letters."? In order to write.

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Re: The last hurdle (one person's last hurdle)

 

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 02:24 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
I'm talking about the bare minimum of helping them learn the very basics:? this is how you write (forming letters, I mean; not sentences) "

"This is how you write..."

Wait.? I'm not forming letters.? I'm touching a keyboard on a laptop computer.? There are other ways to get these words into these messages, but nobody is "forming letters."?

?

-=-or knowing their basic math facts-=-

WOOP!? WOOP!!? The alarm goes off.

"Their"¡ªthat one Individual child's, or those two or three children's (I don't know this mom's details, so picture your own)¡ª"facts"?

Facts just are. I don't have my own basic math facts.? There ARE mathematical realities.? Some I understand well, and some less clearly, and yet I grew up and reproduced.? :-)

To the original questioner:? Please read back through the question. It's well written grammatically and the punctuation and spelling are good, and so I don't feel bad about suggesting going to the next level:? phrases, terminology, word choice.

Others might want to read that as an exercise in seeing how word choices revel clues to thoughts and beliefs.??

None of this should stress or hurt anybody.? It's just words and ideas.??

You're all probably sitting in a comfortable and familiar place, safe.? Don't be afraid.

?

Sandra


and the concepts of arithmetic:-=-

And if that child is not yet writing, the for the mom to think to address the child as "you" and say "this is how you write" is a clue to the mom's blockage, maybe.? She thinks there is a way that THAT child must/should/will or should be / will be "forming letters."? In order to write.

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Re: The last hurdle (one person's last hurdle)

 

On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 02:24 PM, Sandra Dodd wrote:
I feel like I've come so far in my progress towards fully unschooling, but in the end, I always bump up against the fact that it feels irresponsible to me.?

As usual, I'm going to examine the terminology used. :-)? Sometimes people are defensive about that, so I hope the anonymous mom can endure that. :-)

"but in the end..."

Why is that "the end"???

Perhaps there is a faulty map in play.? Maybe the mom is thinking there is a course of deschooling that results in the completion of deschooling, but that in her case, she's not getting to that finish line, because "in the end..."

Deschooling isn't "one and done" (once and d..? donce?? dunce?) .??

It has levels, or layers.? Enough deschooling for starting won't be enough deschooling to continue.? Enough deschooling to continue won't be enough deschooling when that child (or one of those children) reaches a new level or layer of his own growth and learning!? ?

Parents are often surprised that their own peaceful parenting practices that are working GREAT can hit a bump.? Often it's when the child comes to an age or stage at which the parent had problems, or fears, or some trauma (minor or major).? Then the parental emotions are stirred up and deschooling seems (for a little bit) not to have "completely worked," but it's not that.? It's that a 30 year old mom with a 5 year old child isn't in the same place (from any measurement) as the same mom at 35 with a ten year old, or 45 and 15.??

You've already looked at the deschooling links, probably.? Try these:



Sometimes what seems like the most direct route doesn't provide the time, and breadth and width of ideas and information as the slower, meandering scenic route.? ?A 3-D model can provide more than a line drawing, very often.

Sandra

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The last hurdle (one person's last hurdle)

 

Question sent for me to post anonymously:

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I feel like I've come so far in my progress towards fully unschooling, but in the end, I always bump up against the fact that it feels irresponsible to me.? I'm talking about the bare minimum of helping them learn the very basics:? this is how you write (forming letters, I mean; not sentences); or knowing their basic math facts and the concepts of arithmetic:? I feel *irresponsible* not doing some things in a more "school-y" fashion.? I would love some help in how to look at this differently....so far the responses I've gotten have been along the lines of "you need to deschool some more," and I'm going *yes!* I know!? But how do I get around this wall, specifically?? What would help me let go of this last little bit of academics?? How do I let go (or maybe come to accept?) this feeling of irresponsibility?

______________________

Let's help think of how to clear this hurdle, but also, while we're at it...

What are some other things people have "bumped up against" and had a hard time getting around, over, or through?

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Thanks!

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Sandra


Kids looking for online friends

 

Is there any type of good directory or tips for helping find connections for kiddos? My oldest (9 and 7) especially would love friends to play online with while chatting with them on kid messenger. We have some friends to do this with but they aren¡¯t available much and my kids want more!?


One new page and some remodelled

 

Additions to these existing pages (and one new page, related to a couple of those):

When Parents Have Issues (added "People can't casually deschool, stretch, fart, snooze, yawn..."


"Two directions, about school (both Sandra)" added to


New page, on problems with not getting a good start:


Part of what's on the new page (above) is quoted at "DO IT!"

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There are other page announcements, going back years, there.? It's another sort of randomizer!

Sandra

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Re: Seeing with Hands- exploring the potential of drawing as cognitive activity

 

"The purpose is to create disturbance."

Let's not.? There's plenty of disturbance around, but I can't think of one time when my stirring it up and bringing it home to my kids helped their learning.?


On Fri, Aug 11, 2023, 9:08 PM Jinan <jinankb@...> wrote:
Thank you Sandra for your kindness

Would you like to engage in a conversation about both of the points you raised?

1. Why drawing done by children is about learning and how it helps the
adults in deschooling/unschooling.

2. Why do I say TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS"? The
purpose is to create disturbance.

Now one option is to disengage and the other is to be open and explore
why I say that.

Jinan

On 11/08/2023, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:
> I've let this post through because it's interesting, and there are many
> aspects of India that are unique to there, but also can be applied
> worldwide.
>
> Try to keep the responses about learning, and unschooling.
>
> This, in the footer, disturbs me some:? " TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS,
> WORLD AWAKENS"
>
> From an academic, contacting people worldwide by digital means, there is
> irony.? Because there are people here who will be sparked by the ideas,
> though, i didn't send it back.
>
> Sandra, list owner
>
>
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--
Jinan,
TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS
<>




09447121544






Re: Seeing with Hands- exploring the potential of drawing as cognitive activity

 

-=-Now one option is to disengage and the other is to be open and explore
why I say that.-=-

Those aren't the only two options, though.

I could do what I have done for over twenty years with this group and
say that the Always Learning exists only to discuss unschooling.
Your false dichotomy seems manipulative.

The situation in India, with unschooling is different from any other
place I know or have heard of. School attendance is not compulsory,
except from pressure from grandparents and parents (and the path to
competitive testing, and university, for matchmaking purposes later,
depending on the family). When school isn't mandatory, for a family
to decide to unschool, parents can't simply say "The law of this
state/country says that home education is a legal option by____" as is
done in probably a hundred other jurisdictions. Indian parents are
going strictly against families.

That doesn't change how learning works, definitely, but it can change
the way Indian parents see unschooling, and the particular fears and
mental roadblocks they have.

If you would like to present some of your ideas and information in a
non-political and specially directed way, for unschoolers, here, I
don't mind that. The readership represents people from many places
around the world.

If you're here only to sell a book or create a disturbance, the book
link is out there, and unschooling families have had enough
disturbance in the past few years. It is healing for them to live in
the world they're in, with as much peace as they can gather up and
maintain, for the sake of their children's learning.

Sandra

On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 8:08?PM Jinan <jinankb@...> wrote:

Thank you Sandra for your kindness

Would you like to engage in a conversation about both of the points you raised?

1. Why drawing done by children is about learning and how it helps the
adults in deschooling/unschooling.

2. Why do I say TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS"? The
purpose is to create disturbance.

Now one option is to disengage and the other is to be open and explore
why I say that.

Jinan

On 11/08/2023, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:
I've let this post through because it's interesting, and there are many
aspects of India that are unique to there, but also can be applied
worldwide.

Try to keep the responses about learning, and unschooling.

This, in the footer, disturbs me some: " TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS,
WORLD AWAKENS"

From an academic, contacting people worldwide by digital means, there is
irony. Because there are people here who will be sparked by the ideas,
though, i didn't send it back.

Sandra, list owner






--
Jinan,
TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS
<>


www.re-cognition.org

09447121544





Re: Seeing with Hands- exploring the potential of drawing as cognitive activity

 

Thank you Sandra for your kindness

Would you like to engage in a conversation about both of the points you raised?

1. Why drawing done by children is about learning and how it helps the
adults in deschooling/unschooling.

2. Why do I say TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS"? The
purpose is to create disturbance.

Now one option is to disengage and the other is to be open and explore
why I say that.

Jinan

On 11/08/2023, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:
I've let this post through because it's interesting, and there are many
aspects of India that are unique to there, but also can be applied
worldwide.

Try to keep the responses about learning, and unschooling.

This, in the footer, disturbs me some: " TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS,
WORLD AWAKENS"

From an academic, contacting people worldwide by digital means, there is
irony. Because there are people here who will be sparked by the ideas,
though, i didn't send it back.

Sandra, list owner





--
Jinan,
TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS
<>


www.re-cognition.org

09447121544


Re: 2 sweet stories about sweets

 

It should only have one "d" on candid.? My keyboard is starting to double letters lately.? Sorry.

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I'll fix the other one, too.? Thank!

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I'm trying to make links guessable, and if people's guesses don't work, the search page might help. :-)

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(If this doesn't look like Sandra Dodd's e-mail, it is one.? "AElflaed" is my medieval-studies/SCA name.)


Re: 2 sweet stories about sweets

 

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Hi! The link for candid eating choices didn¡¯t work - it gave me this when clicked on - just wanted to let you know!image0.png


On Aug 9, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Sandra Dodd <aelflaed@...> wrote:

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So today (in August 2023), I added those stories to this page:

Candid Kid-Choices


I did that because I had shared them years back and announced here that I would put it on my site.? Now I have. :-)

Here's the announcement I found, looking for something for Just Add Light and Stir.

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Those kids are grown now.? I'm late.

The stories and truths are still true.? They helped people then, and they might help different people now.

Sandra


Re: Seeing with Hands- exploring the potential of drawing as cognitive activity

 

I've let this post through because it's interesting, and there are many aspects of India that are unique to there, but also can be applied worldwide.

Try to keep the responses about learning, and unschooling.

?

This, in the footer, disturbs me some:? "TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS"

From an academic, contacting people worldwide by digital means, there is irony.? Because there are people here who will be sparked by the ideas, though, i didn't send it back.??

Sandra, list owner

?

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Seeing with Hands- exploring the potential of drawing as cognitive activity

 

Dear Friends

This mail is to intimate you regarding a book I have written on
drawing. As the publishers did not have any formal book launch I am
writing this to all those who might be interested in the topic.

The name of the book is SEEING WITH HANDS-exploring the potential of
drawing for cognitive development.

This book is the result of an unusual experiment in understanding
decolonization, deschooling, de-conditioning, and learning from
illiterate communities.

Living with illiterate communities made me realize some crucial
aspects of knowledge creation, the content of knowledge, and the
context and conditions. Literates learn the WORD whereas illiterates
learn the WORLD. We are made to ANALYZE secondhand information whereas
they CREATE KNOWLEDGE of their contexts.

This realization made me stop reading for a couple of years and it
looks like my cognitive system rewired. I was able to see how literacy
and schooling damage our natural cognitive process and rewires the
neural network in such a way that our senses get numbed/distorted.

It has been a long journey since then. from 1991 onwards......

This book came about from an experiment called reimagining schools
conducted in the outskirts of Pune from 2011 to 2014. There was no
teaching whatsoever and children had conditions to do what they would
do naturally. We documented all their activities and in that process,
we also documented their drawings. We were astonished to see the
connection between what children experience, what they ply, and what
they draw, clearly showing similarity between various other
developmental processes like crawling to walking, blabbering to
speaking, etc.

It was by sheer accident that I stumbled upon the idea that children
might be using drawing to understand the real world in terms of
two-dimensional space.¡±

This is a book on seeing- how children use drawing to observe the
world. The book is to initiate seeing- an invitation to become an
enquirer- to be like children, to observe, to touch, to feel, to
sense¡­ and more importantly, to let understanding take place.

So, the invitation is to read the book without any forced agreement
but to rediscover what children do when they have the freedom to draw
and when they are not confused with our notions about art,
self-expression, skill, etc.

¡®Seeing with Hands¡¯ explores the cognitive potential of drawing to
understand the world. The book challenges our notion of drawing. It
establishes drawing as means to observe and make sense of the real
world. It also establishes the necessity of understanding drawing in
continuation with children's actual experiences, the toys & play they
create to revisit these experiences.

This was evidenced by three years of children¡¯s drawings done with no
adult interference, whatsoever - neither to correct or praise.
Naturally drawing became an activity that every child did to enhance
their observation rather than make artistic, skilled drawings.

This book is bound to lead to a new way of being with children,
respecting their autonomy and their innate ability to develop their
cognitive systems. This has the potential to enable adults- parents,
teachers, educationists, cognitive scientists, and psychologists - to
reflect on their schooling process and the way knowledge gets created
naturally.

So, this book challenges the modern paradigm of education which denies
our most fundamental right which is COGNITIVE RIGHT, THE RIGHT TO BE.

Hope you will find time to co-explore with me, this uncharted path.

Amazon.in -
Amazon.com -

--
Jinan,
TEXT DISTORTS, DIGITAL DESTROYS, WORLD AWAKENS
<>


www.re-cognition.org

09447121544


Re: 2 sweet stories about sweets

 
Edited

So today (in August 2023), I added those stories to this page:

Candid Kid-Choices


I did that because I had shared them years back and announced here that I would put it on my site.? Now I have. :-)

Here's the announcement I found, looking for something for Just Add Light and Stir.

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Those kids are grown now.? I'm late.

The stories and truths are still true.? They helped people then, and they might help different people now.

Sandra


Re: Another interview! (watch or listen)

 

I was listening to that podcast again while I did other things and there are a couple of errors.? More, but I would be nitpicking myself, and a kid's age and all.??

JULY 24 is Pioneer Day (in Utah)? ?and my birthday at my house).? At one point I said July 4, Pioneer Day.? SO WRONG and so much water under the bridge, only it's recorded and people will be listening to it in years to come and so I will make that error over and over again.? DOH!

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The other was I said something happened here, on Always Learning, but it was not here.? There was a question Radical Unschooling Info about a kid who used to like the mom watching him play video games, but he got older and asked her not to sit there all the time, and it spooked her or hurt her feelings maybe.? She was asking what might be happening.?

It was on facebook at Radical Unschooling Info,? Some of the responses were irritating.? ?Of course others were beautiful unschooling analyses of kids getting older, and people were rightly impressed that the mom had been paying attention to him up to that point.? I guess you need to have access to a facebook account to read it, but for the record it is here (if the mom doesn't delete it and if facebook stays around).? ?..... I wasn't able to find it.? If the mom deleted the original post, the whole thing will be gone.??

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AND one more error I made, of numbers:

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I was younger when I was watching Robin Hood.? I said 7, 8, 9, but then I pictured where the tv was and such in those days, and I watched it at 4, 5, 6, when I knew much less. :-)? STILL things stuck, and wove their way into my heart. :-)

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(If this doesn't look like Sandra Dodd's e-mail, it is one.? "AElflaed" is my medieval-studies/SCA name.)


Re: Another interview! (watch or listen)

 

Thanks for all that feedback, and the Learn Nothing Day attempts. :-)

On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 3:19?PM Katie Robles <paigekitten@...> wrote:

53:30 "I'm not going to sacrifice my child's happiness for your occasional comfort."

This quote was encouraging for me. With some kids unschooling, some kids doing school by choice, and attachment parenting the youngest few, every circle I run in, I bump into other people's opinions. Best course of action is for me to stay happy, calm, and focused on my kids.

1:37:10 "People go to therapy, not about a video game but the relationship between them and their parents." Also a good reminder! When you talked about playing WITH a game, I remember my sister used to try to do all kinds of crazy things on Mario Kart. We did a lot of driving intentionally off the rainbow bridge and running the race tracks backward.

I liked your story about Kirby in the junior college math class. I took one of those as a teenager after being traditionally homeschooled. I think my mom passed on more of her own stress and phobia of math than she meant to for me. I remember fighting with her about doing math more than any of the actual math. But when I took that class I was thinking the whole time "Oh, that actually makes sense now."

Learn Nothing Day: I took the four younger kids to Costco in the morning. The four and two year olds were getting squirrely in the checkout line so I started singing silly songs to them, and apparently, a couple were new to them. Oops! And then the nine year old asked how the conveyor belt worked. Oops again! The 15 year old slept until 4pm but then I forgot to tell her it was learn nothing day and she started reading Dracula. Oops a third time! The 11 year old fell off her bed backward on accident and talked about the physics of falling and balance a bit with my husband, and the 14 year old is working at an art studio running summer camps for kids and arrived home and announced that she discovered work is a LOT harder when two coworkers call out sick. I don't know what the three month old learned yet, lol.


Re: Another interview! (watch or listen)

 

53:30 "I'm not going to sacrifice my child's happiness for your occasional comfort."

This quote was encouraging for me.? With some kids unschooling, some kids doing school by choice, and attachment parenting the youngest few, every circle I run in, I bump into other people's opinions.? Best course of action is?for me to stay happy, calm, and focused on my kids.?

1:37:10 "People go to therapy, not about a video game but the relationship between them and their parents." Also a good reminder!? When you talked about playing WITH a game, I remember my sister used to try to do all kinds of crazy things on Mario Kart.? We did a lot of driving intentionally off the rainbow bridge and running the race tracks backward.

I liked your story about Kirby in the junior college math class. I took one of those as a teenager after being traditionally homeschooled.? I think my mom passed on more of her own stress and phobia of math than she meant to for me.? I remember fighting with her about doing math more than any of the actual math.? But when I took that class I was thinking the whole time "Oh, that actually makes sense now."?

Learn Nothing Day: I took the four younger kids to Costco in the morning.? The four and two year olds were getting squirrely in the checkout line so I started singing silly songs to them, and apparently, a couple were new to them.? Oops!? And then the nine year old asked how the conveyor belt worked.? Oops again!? The 15 year old slept until 4pm but then I forgot to tell her it was learn nothing day and she started reading Dracula.? Oops a third time!? The 11 year old fell off her bed backward on accident and talked about the physics of falling and balance a bit with my husband, and the 14 year old is working at an art studio running summer camps for kids and arrived home and announced that she discovered work is a LOT harder when two coworkers call out sick.? I don't know what the three month old learned yet, lol.?


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